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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 at 11:40:37

Artist: Yasuda Rei
Title: Mirror -TV edit-
Source: 魔法科高校の劣等生
Tags: 林奈津美 Hayashi Natsumi 玉井健二 Tamai Kenji 釣俊輔 Tsuri Shunsuke Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei ending the irregular at magic high school
BPM: 127
Filesize: 3182kb
Play Time: 01:29
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Download: Yasuda Rei - Mirror -TV edit-
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I really really like this song here is some kds
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From that nifty queue~ Don't forget to mod one of the maps on my queue

General

◾ Damn it, early preview point.
◽ Make the HP/OD as follows (from Kantan to Oni): 2/8, 3/7, 4/6, 5/5. This is proper since the set is relatively easy.


Kantan

◾ Remove all unnecessary greenlines, these could possibly cause errors, or mislead modders to think you meant to map something there.
00:18:122 - I would say it's alright to put a note here, you just had a 4/1 break.
00:33:949 - Same as above, but not because you had a 4/1 break, just because I think a break here would be unnatural and awkward right after you've established this groove.
00:46:232 (8) - Move this to the downbeat and put a kat on the second beat of the measure. This puts the emphasis into context so you don't really need to map the stressed vocal syllable.
01:25:445 (1,2,3) - These should be finishers, they have the crash cymbals too.


Futsuu

00:28:516 (11) - This may confused players as the bar before you were mapping to the bass and drums and this one note is mapped to a pretty unimportant vocal.


Muzukashii

00:32:531 (1) - Finish dis.
00:38:909 (23) - Finish dis.
◾ Add finishers to like, the notes that should have finishers, you missed a few.
01:00:642 (15) - Try to avoid using finishers on offbeat, they're usually reserved for downbeats since they're most often deserve it. This doesn't deserve it.


Oni

00:35:248 (13) - Delete, no sounds here. You could add a d before the remaining k so it's more comfortable to play.
01:11:980 (40,41,42,1) - Bullshit, there's no 1/6th here.


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General

◾ Damn it, early preview point. piano :weary:
◽ Make the HP/OD as follows (from Kantan to Oni): 2/8, 3/7, 4/6, 5/5. This is proper since the set is relatively easy. think you wanted to write od/hp since putting od 8 on kantan is lol. did something similar, though hp is a bit more forgiving and od on higher diffs a bit higher


Kantan

◾ Remove all unnecessary greenlines, these could possibly cause errors, or mislead modders to think you meant to map something there. d
00:18:122 - I would say it's alright to put a note here, you just had a 4/1 break. true
00:33:949 - Same as above, but not because you had a 4/1 break, just because I think a break here would be unnatural and awkward right after you've established this groove. not sure here, seems a bit dense for one of the calmer parts
00:46:232 (8) - Move this to the downbeat and put a kat on the second beat of the measure. This puts the emphasis into context so you don't really need to map the stressed vocal syllable. sounds good
01:25:445 (1,2,3) - These should be finishers, they have the crash cymbals too. putting it on all of them really takes away from 01:27:335 - imo since it's not unique then anymore


Futsuu

00:28:516 (11) - This may confused players as the bar before you were mapping to the bass and drums and this one note is mapped to a pretty unimportant vocal. removed


Muzukashii

00:32:531 (1) - Finish dis.
00:38:909 (23) - Finish dis.
◾ Add finishers to like, the notes that should have finishers, you missed a few. applied above and a few others
01:00:642 (15) - Try to avoid using finishers on offbeat, they're usually reserved for downbeats since they're most often deserve it. This doesn't deserve it. yea that was unintentional


Oni

00:35:248 (13) - Delete, no sounds here. You could add a d before the remaining k so it's more comfortable to play. removed
01:11:980 (40,41,42,1) - Bullshit, there's no 1/6th here. mh I think it fits the high pitched stuff and intense vocal/intensity overall well,
mapping 1/4 seems really underwhelming when the whole map spams so much 1/4. keeping for now but might change if it's really not suitable


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also copied tags from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/649225 since I didn't put any lol
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Kantan
00:17:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - All d? You didn't change the pattern at 00:09:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6).
01:11:508 (11) - k, to match the vocals?


Futsuu
00:36:311 (11,12,13) - kdk or dkk to match the vocals?
00:38:673 (17) - Move to 00:38:555. It feels weird to play the vocals at 00:38:673 while ignoring the vocals at 00:39:028. (If you disagree, change 00:38:673 (17) - to k. It'll match the drums in the background.)


Muzukashii
00:10:799 (4) - Move to 00:11:035 since there are vocals here.
00:13:988 (12) - Move to 00:14:106. Same reason as above.
00:17:768 (2) - Move to 00:17:886. Same reason as above.
00:25:327 (2) - Move to 00:25:445. Same as above.
00:29:106 (15) - Move to 00:29:224. Same as above.
00:32:886 (2) - Move to 00:33:004. Same as above.
00:59:461 (10) - Move to 00:59:343. It sounds strange when you use doubles everywhere except for the vocals.
01:07:020 (10) - Move to 01:06:902. There are vocals here.


Oni
00:13:988 (14) - The last double is understandable, but I think you should move this note to 00:13:870. There are vocals at this spot.
00:21:547 (14) - Move to 00:21:429. Same reason as above.
00:25:327 (2) - Move to 00:25:209. Same reason as above.
00:29:106 (19) - Move to 00:28:988. Same reason as above.

...etc. I'd recommend listening to the song at 50% playback and replacing doubles like this.

Good song. Good luck with ranking this! :)
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General
Metadata etc seems cool and all c:

I suggest you shift the BG down by 50 for all difficulties so you can see the girls face better. For that open the .osu in every difficulty and edit the number marked in "This" Image to 50 c:

OD seems to be too low on the lower diffs, too high on the higher diffs. OD on the oni should be 5, Muzu should be 4, futsuu 3.5 and kantan 3 to make it more appropiate. Songs this slow usually dont use OD 2 even for its kantans. Futsuu is pretty close to kantan spreadwise and should not be far with its od from it. Muzukashii at this BPM and density level are also appropiate for OD 4 and this oni is just a normal oni with lower BPM to which you find OD5 fairly common aswell.


Kantan
Something that worries me in this diff is the infrequency at which you use 3/1 breaks, which should be about every 4th or 5th measure according to wiki guidelines. here it goes a bit longer before a 3/1 break is seen.
00:24:972 - starting from here you dont have one until 00:41:980 -
To fix that you could maybe Delete 00:31:350 - this kat? It will be a break just before a finisher and youll have a break right in the middle of the section, which gives it some more structure imo.

00:46:705 (9) - This note doesnt fall on any sound precisely altough there is a sound 1/4 after, which makes it sound *really* weird. Id rather suggest moving it over to 00:47:177 - so that it falls on a snare and also creates a 3/1 break this kantan needs more of c:

How come that the entire kiai is mapped alternatingly between a 1/1 focused manner and a 3/2 focused manner? The drums stay structurally the same, and purely from the fact this is a kantan, it would be a smarter decision to stay on white ticks whereever you can, to prevent the SR from skyrocketing and due to the fact that kantan players cant even handle such a complex rhythm as 3/2 most of the time, which is why they should be avoided.
Also its weird that this kiai seems to focus on the vocals all of the sudden, when the rest of the map just listened to the instruments for its patterns.
I dunno, you should try and redesign this kiai a bit to prevent mapping on red ticks too much.
For example you can - delete these two notes, and rather put a kat at 01:11:744 - to firstly, create a 3/1 break, and secondly, to capture the snares going louder and louder at this point in the music. The mapping to the vocals kind of overshadows this too much which i find worrying as its a more distinct sound from most others.

Nothing much more to say other than that honestly.


Futsuu

First off, 00:08:437 - ; 00:09:382 - Delete these two SV lines, they dont contribute anything to the map and should be left out.

Again there are virtually no 2/1 rests at all in this difficulty, please implement them as they are important for players.

00:11:035 (4) - This note and all repetitions of it dont lie on any sound that would be important to map here. You could much better make it a kat and put it 00:11:272 - here as to fit the background ticking instead of mapping it to what is essentially nothing.

00:21:193 (10,11,12,13,14) - why is the 3/4 violin suddenly emphasized in this measure? You always alternated each measure mapping to violin, then drums, then violin again. You mapped the violin last measure, ergo this measure should be focused on the drums similar to 00:17:413 (1,2,3,4) - these.

00:50:130 (5) - shift this 1 1/4 to the right? No actual sound to be heard here. Think you intended it to be on the red tick x)


Muzukashii

00:15:760 (17) - i Suggest you remove this doublet to make this calmer section a bit more distinct from the next section. having this section use no such doublets at all and the next one use them creates some more contrast between the parts.

00:45:287 (18,19,20,21) - How come this little snippet is so very differently mapped from the other combos in the section? The drums pretty much stay the same which the exception of the finisher at 00:45:524 -.

Apart from that little thing i dont understand why this muzukashii is quite bold with the usage of 1/4. Especially in the kiai it goes way overboard with the density it uses for 1/4, when compared to the oni.

01:10:327 (23) - Why is this a finisher? The vocals arent really strong enough to warrant a finisher here imo.

For example 01:03:122 (24,25) - these doublets where the first note doesnt lie on anything that is too important. It would help the spread to just remove the first note and let the 2nd on stay on its own. Same goes for other doublets of this kind

Otherwise you should tone down the 1/4 a bit more, especially in the kiai. Try to do that and the spread should be good!

Sorry to not mod the oni, its late here in germany. Sorry~
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Kantan
00:17:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - All d? You didn't change the pattern at 00:09:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6). not going to repeat the same thing all the time for a whole part,
this works too

01:11:508 (11) - k, to match the vocals? yea


Futsuu
00:36:311 (11,12,13) - kdk or dkk to match the vocals? think last vocal stands out much more so only color change there
00:38:673 (17) - Move to 00:38:555. It feels weird to play the vocals at 00:38:673 while ignoring the vocals at 00:39:028. (If you disagree, change 00:38:673 (17) - to k. It'll match the drums in the background.) no vocal on blue tick... als think current pattern is more suitable for newer players and still fits


Muzukashii
00:10:799 (4) - Move to 00:11:035 since there are vocals here.
00:13:988 (12) - Move to 00:14:106. Same reason as above.
00:17:768 (2) - Move to 00:17:886. Same reason as above.
00:25:327 (2) - Move to 00:25:445. Same as above.
00:29:106 (15) - Move to 00:29:224. Same as above.
00:32:886 (2) - Move to 00:33:004. Same as above.
00:59:461 (10) - Move to 00:59:343. It sounds strange when you use doubles everywhere except for the vocals.
01:07:020 (10) - Move to 01:06:902. There are vocals here.
prefer to follow the unique 3/4 rhythm the song provides on melody/bass most of the time since that is what makes the song unique, mapping 1/2 vocals the whole time would just dumb down rhythm to generic anime rhythm even though this song is much more than that


Oni
00:13:988 (14) - The last double is understandable, but I think you should move this note to 00:13:870. There are vocals at this spot.
00:21:547 (14) - Move to 00:21:429. Same reason as above.
00:25:327 (2) - Move to 00:25:209. Same reason as above.
00:29:106 (19) - Move to 00:28:988. Same reason as above.

...etc. I'd recommend listening to the song at 50% playback and replacing doubles like this. same here

Good song. Good luck with ranking this! :)


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General
Metadata etc seems cool and all c:

I suggest you shift the BG down by 50 for all difficulties so you can see the girls face better. For that open the .osu in every difficulty and edit the number marked in "This" Image to 50 c: yea looks nice

OD seems to be too low on the lower diffs, too high on the higher diffs. OD on the oni should be 5, Muzu should be 4, futsuu 3.5 and kantan 3 to make it more appropiate. Songs this slow usually dont use OD 2 even for its kantans. Futsuu is pretty close to kantan spreadwise and should not be far with its od from it. Muzukashii at this BPM and density level are also appropiate for OD 4 and this oni is just a normal oni with lower BPM to which you find OD5 fairly common aswell. adjusted things a bit more


Kantan
Something that worries me in this diff is the infrequency at which you use 3/1 breaks, which should be about every 4th or 5th measure according to wiki guidelines. here it goes a bit longer before a 3/1 break is seen.
00:24:972 - starting from here you dont have one until 00:41:980 -
To fix that you could maybe Delete 00:31:350 - this kat? It will be a break just before a finisher and youll have a break right in the middle of the section, which gives it some more structure imo. not completely sure since all these guidelines are aimed at 180bpm wheres this song is much slower and things like 00:29:461 (8,9) -00:33:240 (2,3) - provide a lot of rest, I'll try to get more feedback on these since removing stuff there takes away so much from the song :/

00:46:705 (9) - This note doesnt fall on any sound precisely altough there is a sound 1/4 after, which makes it sound *really* weird. Id rather suggest moving it over to 00:47:177 - so that it falls on a snare and also creates a 3/1 break this kantan needs more of c: nice

How come that the entire kiai is mapped alternatingly between a 1/1 focused manner and a 3/2 focused manner? The drums stay structurally the same, and purely from the fact this is a kantan, it would be a smarter decision to stay on white ticks whereever you can, to prevent the SR from skyrocketing and due to the fact that kantan players cant even handle such a complex rhythm as 3/2 most of the time, which is why they should be avoided.
Also its weird that this kiai seems to focus on the vocals all of the sudden, when the rest of the map just listened to the instruments for its patterns.
I dunno, you should try and redesign this kiai a bit to prevent mapping on red ticks too much.
For example you can - delete these two notes, and rather put a kat at 01:11:744 - to firstly, create a 3/1 break, and secondly, to capture the snares going louder and louder at this point in the music. The mapping to the vocals kind of overshadows this too much which i find worrying as its a more distinct sound from most others. need to consider some stuff again here, not sure myself right now lol. I just think the current thing provides an engaging rhythm while still being alright for newer players simply because it's really slow but idk

Nothing much more to say other than that honestly.


Futsuu

First off, 00:08:437 - ; 00:09:382 - Delete these two SV lines, they dont contribute anything to the map and should be left out. cleaned things up, I'm used to having a lot of these from standard mapping but seems it really triggers taiko people lol

Again there are virtually no 2/1 rests at all in this difficulty, please implement them as they are important for players. similar to kantan I'll get some more opinions since due to the bpm 3/2 gaps (which I have a lot of) seem suitable and fit the song's structure much better

00:11:035 (4) - This note and all repetitions of it dont lie on any sound that would be important to map here. You could much better make it a kat and put it 00:11:272 - here as to fit the background ticking instead of mapping it to what is essentially nothing. it was following vocal there, but I like this suggestion so I changed it for both

00:21:193 (10,11,12,13,14) - why is the 3/4 violin suddenly emphasized in this measure? You always alternated each measure mapping to violin, then drums, then violin again. You mapped the violin last measure, ergo this measure should be focused on the drums similar to 00:17:413 (1,2,3,4) - these. violin seems to be building up in intensity a bit towards the end of the part, so i think breaking consistency fits well

00:50:130 (5) - shift this 1 1/4 to the right? No actual sound to be heard here. Think you intended it to be on the red tick x) lol yea, fixed


Muzukashii

00:15:760 (17) - i Suggest you remove this doublet to make this calmer section a bit more distinct from the next section. having this section use no such doublets at all and the next one use them creates some more contrast between the parts. mh makes sense

00:45:287 (18,19,20,21) - How come this little snippet is so very differently mapped from the other combos in the section? The drums pretty much stay the same which the exception of the finisher at 00:45:524 -. wanted to follow 00:45:524 - here which i skipped before since now it's a cymbal, but keeping same rhythm as before after it would make a really long 1/2 pattern which feels overdone here

Apart from that little thing i dont understand why this muzukashii is quite bold with the usage of 1/4. Especially in the kiai it goes way overboard with the density it uses for 1/4, when compared to the oni.

01:10:327 (23) - Why is this a finisher? The vocals arent really strong enough to warrant a finisher here imo. probably unintentional, changed

For example 01:03:122 (24,25) - these doublets where the first note doesnt lie on anything that is too important. It would help the spread to just remove the first note and let the 2nd on stay on its own. Same goes for other doublets of this kind not sure since I think they work really well on the vocal-drum transition. I'd be fine with nerfing some 1/4 stuff on this diff, even though I think it should be okay and just fits the song's unique rhythm so well. tthe 1/4 patterns are all really simple reading wise which together with some bigger gaps should make it fine on a slow song?

Otherwise you should tone down the 1/4 a bit more, especially in the kiai. Try to do that and the spread should be good! considering

Sorry to not mod the oni, its late here in germany. Sorry~

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Oni
00:00:406 (1,2) - i'd suggest either deleting these notes or making a spinner until 00:02:059 - to start the map off at 00:02:295 - since the part here is more of a play in
00:35:839 - maybe change this 5plet to kkdkd since the vocals are pretty different from the last kkddk things you used
00:45:524 - i don't feel like the cymbal here warrants a finisher tbh.. since it's not a strong crash and comes pretty unexpectedly
01:00:287 - add a note here to make more rhythmic diversity and better pacing
01:15:406 - ^
01:19:303 - i feel like the cymbal here is too faint to warrant a finisher... feels kinda sudden and out of place when playing imo
01:24:972 - ^
01:26:390 - remove the finisher to add more emphasis on the final crash at 01:27:335 -
01:27:571 - you could make an extra green line on the spinner here to lower the hitsound volume to 30% or something for a more quiet fadeout.. you could also make the volume transition progressive towards the end of the spinner if you want

Muzu
00:00:406 - same as in oni
00:11:744 (6,7,8) - for this part the d k d pattern is repeated way too often and becomes very repetitive imo, maybe mix things up a bit?
00:24:986 - somewhat the same for d d k here

the diff uses a lot of pretty complicated rhythms which may be a bit hard for a muzu but it should be fine i guess

Futsuu
00:00:406 - same here as other diffs
- the diff is kinda lacking 2/1 and 4/1 breaks, specially in the calmer parts, so try to implement a few more rest moments. The rhythms look fine though

Kantan
00:00:406 - same as in other diffs
00:08:909 - add a note for buildup?
00:12:453 - change to d for variety and pitch emphasis relative to 00:10:563 - and 00:14:343 - ?
00:22:610 - delete this note? as it is now it kinda takes emphasis away from 00:23:791 -
00:37:020 - change to k for variety and better pitch emphasis when comparing with 00:38:909 -
00:40:091 - to 00:47:650 - is kinda mapped weirdly inconsistent imo
01:27:571 - start the spinner at 01:27:335 - ? better than having it on the red tick in a kantan imo
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Oni
00:00:406 (1,2) - i'd suggest either deleting these notes or making a spinner until 00:02:059 - to start the map off at 00:02:295 - since the part here is more of a play in makes sense, removed since spinner for piano intro feels weird
00:35:839 - maybe change this 5plet to kkdkd since the vocals are pretty different from the last kkddk things you used yea changing this is nice since the kkddk ones before and after are only on drums
00:45:524 - i don't feel like the cymbal here warrants a finisher tbh.. since it's not a strong crash and comes pretty unexpectedly true, removed finish but changed to k
01:00:287 - add a note here to make more rhythmic diversity and better pacing
01:15:406 - ^ nice
01:19:303 - i feel like the cymbal here is too faint to warrant a finisher... feels kinda sudden and out of place when playing imo
01:24:972 - ^ yea I'm still kinda figuring out how to proprerly utilize them lol
01:26:390 - remove the finisher to add more emphasis on the final crash at 01:27:335 - i think this one works well enough and fits so nicely here with the song suddenly using so many more cymbals
01:27:571 - you could make an extra green line on the spinner here to lower the hitsound volume to 30% or something for a more quiet fadeout.. you could also make the volume transition progressive towards the end of the spinner if you want yea did progressive volume on all diffs
also adjusted finishers on low diffs in a similar way

Muzu
00:00:406 - same as in oni
00:11:744 (6,7,8) - for this part the d k d pattern is repeated way too often and becomes very repetitive imo, maybe mix things up a bit? yea made it alternate between dkk an dkd now
00:24:986 - somewhat the same for d d k here tried some things here too

the diff uses a lot of pretty complicated rhythms which may be a bit hard for a muzu but it should be fine i guess yea I mean the song is built around these less usual rhythms, like lots of 3/4 emphasis stuff and this is as simplified as it can get without ignoring it too much I think

Futsuu
00:00:406 - same here as other diffs
- the diff is kinda lacking 2/1 and 4/1 breaks, specially in the calmer parts, so try to implement a few more rest moments. The rhythms look fine though
really hard to add such breaks with the rhythm of the song since that tends to make for some really big breaks, but I tried some things:
00:16:705 (17,18) - removed
00:31:823 (18,19) - ^
00:39:382 (19,20) - ^
00:24:264 (18) - removed, it's only a 3/2 gap but better than nothing I guess and ignoring 00:24:500 - too seems a bit too undermapped for the transition here
no idea how do have them in the buildup part without ruining the whole feeling but things like 00:47:650 (1,2,3) - already provide lots of rest

01:11:508 (18,19) - removed since it's pretty long without any, mapped 01:11:272 - instead to not completely kill intensity

Kantan
00:00:406 - same as in other diffs
00:08:909 - add a note for buildup? yes
00:12:453 - change to d for variety and pitch emphasis relative to 00:10:563 - and 00:14:343 - ? pitch stuff doesn't seem too different to me,
but using the same pattern 3 times is a bit boring so I changed it

00:22:610 - delete this note? as it is now it kinda takes emphasis away from 00:23:791 - makes sense
00:37:020 - change to k for variety and better pitch emphasis when comparing with 00:38:909 - sure
00:40:091 - to 00:47:650 - is kinda mapped weirdly inconsistent imo changed some things so the density is less varied
01:27:571 - start the spinner at 01:27:335 - ? better than having it on the red tick in a kantan imo yea, made 01:26:390 - into finisher since having none after changing this seemed a bit weird


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01:07:256 - ddd ddd feels a bit weird for really strong vocals here, something like ddk kkd might be better

the stuff you did in the futsuu is sufficient so no other worries here :D

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true, changed that
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looks good, bubbled :3
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lasse mapping taiko


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taiko set from lasse hmmmmmm
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