2017-10-23 10:50 Emilia: i didnt really like this map tbh
2017-10-23 10:50 Weriko: rip
2017-10-23 10:50 Emilia: its a lot messier than your previous maps imo
2017-10-23 10:50 Emilia: this is quite unpolished
2017-10-23 10:50 Weriko: ??
2017-10-23 10:51 Emilia: im thinking its related to your slider velocity
2017-10-23 10:51 Emilia: its too fast in this one, even though sometimes it works really well
2017-10-23 10:51 Emilia: comparing your ICDD map to this
2017-10-23 10:51 Emilia: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1200217 Sunless Rise - Awakening [Rising]]
2017-10-23 10:51 Emilia: i think your awakening is a lot neater
2017-10-23 10:51 Emilia: the sliders have more symmetry and similarity
2017-10-23 10:51 Weriko: well
2017-10-23 10:51 Emilia: compared to random stuff
2017-10-23 10:52 Weriko: i wanted this song to have less of that
2017-10-23 10:52 Weriko: there is still an structure tho
2017-10-23 10:52 Weriko: speciall when it comes to movement and speed
2017-10-23 10:52 Emilia: whats the structure cuz i cant realy tell
2017-10-23 10:52 Emilia: there is some amount of that
2017-10-23 10:52 Weriko: on jumps
2017-10-23 10:53 Weriko: first section is less "melodic" so i use a sharper movement
2017-10-23 10:53 Weriko: with back and forths
2017-10-23 10:53 Weriko: and i just place the circles making either blankets or "tripplets" with other circles
2017-10-23 10:54 Weriko: on the other section i just use shapes that can remind stars
2017-10-23 10:54 Weriko: so they have a circular flow and stuff
2017-10-23 10:54 Weriko: 01:12:476 (1) - and yeah i do a lot of emphasis with this kind of sliders
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: oh
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: dont worry about the jumps
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: they've been quite alright
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: most of the time
2017-10-23 10:55 Weriko: oh
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: your stream shapes are also fairly consistent from last time, very nice
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: i've only really been referring to stuff like that 01:28:761 (3,3) -
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: like
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: its just a little messy and inconsistent
2017-10-23 10:55 Emilia: especialy when placed next to each other so closely like this
2017-10-23 10:56 Weriko: ?
2017-10-23 10:56 Emilia: 01:30:190 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - stuff like that just seems completely random
2017-10-23 10:56 Emilia: 01:35:047 (3,4,5) - this doesnt look nat
2017-10-23 10:56 neat *
2017-10-23 10:56 Weriko: oh
2017-10-23 10:56 Emilia: just stuff like that
2017-10-23 10:56 Emilia: that its just a lot less polished compared to your last maps
2017-10-23 10:56 Emilia: i think this map has a lot of aesthetic areas that need to be fixed, especially with relation to your sliders
2017-10-23 10:56 Emilia: 00:45:047 (1,2,3,4) - btw i really liked this
2017-10-23 10:57 Emilia: that you made the movement of the cursor very very fucked up bc of the vocals
2017-10-23 10:57 Weriko: :p
2017-10-23 10:57 Emilia: i feel like u can apply that to more places tbh
2017-10-23 10:57 Emilia: like make more messed up sliders to enhance movement
2017-10-23 10:57 Emilia: imo it really fits
2017-10-23 10:57 Emilia: like i like this too 01:12:476 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-10-23 10:57 Weriko: i could try that
2017-10-23 10:57 Emilia: but it can 100% be more fucked up
2017-10-23 10:58 Weriko: yeah
2017-10-23 10:58 Emilia: also imo a lot of your triplets feel rather random
2017-10-23 10:58 Weriko: but i mean
2017-10-23 10:58 Weriko: ?
2017-10-23 10:58 Emilia: like there isnt a lot of music to back it up but you slap em on there anyway?
2017-10-23 10:58 Emilia: youi get what i mean?
2017-10-23 10:58 Emilia: like there isnt a need for it to be a triple unless you hear something there thats worthy of emphasis/is an actual triple
2017-10-23 10:58 Weriko: o... well i tought they fit
2017-10-23 10:58 Emilia: some of them do rhythmically of course
2017-10-23 10:58 Emilia: its just rather random
2017-10-23 10:58 Weriko: i think there are triplets on all those spots where i have triplets
2017-10-23 10:59 Weriko: if you listen on 25%
2017-10-23 10:59 Emilia: okok i'll highlight some that i think arent justified
2017-10-23 10:59 Emilia: 01:26:761 (3,4,5) -
2017-10-23 10:59 Weriko: ok
2017-10-23 10:59 Emilia: 01:11:047 (6,7,8) -
2017-10-23 10:59 Weriko: woops
2017-10-23 10:59 Emilia: 01:15:618 (1,2,3) - nothing here really
2017-10-23 10:59 Weriko: 01:11:047 (6,7,8) - i think this is actually a triplet
2017-10-23 11:00 Emilia: 01:24:761 (2,3,4) - this i can hear something on
2017-10-23 11:00 Emilia: LOL alright sure i'll let that pass
2017-10-23 11:00 Weriko: kek
2017-10-23 11:00 Weriko: first one there is no sound
2017-10-23 11:00 Emilia: mhm
2017-10-23 11:00 Weriko: 01:26:761 (3,4,5) - this one i missheard
2017-10-23 11:00 Emilia: its more those that i was referring to
2017-10-23 11:00 Emilia: mhm
2017-10-23 11:00 Emilia: yea there were a ton of those in your map
2017-10-23 11:00 Emilia: if u can check though it that would definitely improve gameplay
2017-10-23 11:01 Emilia: although htat isnt as big of a problem as compared to your inconsistent sliders
2017-10-23 11:01 Emilia: imo
2017-10-23 11:01 Weriko: ok
2017-10-23 11:01 Emilia: 01:51:332 (8,10) - imo this doenst relaly work either
2017-10-23 11:02 Emilia: the overlaps made it very confusing to play
2017-10-23 11:02 Emilia: you'd need higher than ar10 for this to work on this bpm ;p
2017-10-23 11:02 Weriko: o
2017-10-23 11:02 Weriko: i tought the small rotation was enough to make it readable
2017-10-23 11:02 Weriko: might consider changing it tho
2017-10-23 11:03 Emilia: yea it barely overlaps
2017-10-23 11:03 Emilia: but i still didnt like how it played out
2017-10-23 11:03 Emilia: basically
2017-10-23 11:03 Emilia: 01:58:189 (2,3,4,5) - consider making this a short distance stream instead, leads in better to the chorus that warms the hands up for streams
2017-10-23 11:03 Emilia: 01:59:332 (1) - also i didnt really like how the super loud DINHG hitsounds were following vocals
2017-10-23 11:03 Emilia: a little bit misleading
2017-10-23 11:04 Weriko: o
2017-10-23 11:04 Emilia: you could consider using a softer hitsound for it of some other nature
2017-10-23 11:04 Weriko: i liked the dings
2017-10-23 11:04 Weriko: but ok
2017-10-23 11:04 Weriko: could search for another hitsound
2017-10-23 11:04 Emilia: nah its just something i thought of
2017-10-23 11:04 Emilia: you can keep it if you want but i just didnt really thought it fit
2017-10-23 11:04 Emilia: a little misleading
2017-10-23 11:04 Weriko: o ok
2017-10-23 11:05 Emilia: 02:25:047 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - one of the stream shapes that could possibly be polished better?
2017-10-23 11:05 Emilia: like making 02:26:189 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - into a nicer circle or something
2017-10-23 11:05 Emilia: 02:28:475 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - the stuff thats a little misleading, but this one is a little better
2017-10-23 11:05 Weriko: okay
2017-10-23 11:06 Emilia: 02:33:618 (3) - from here onwards imo the intensity was dropped way too much
2017-10-23 11:06 Emilia: find some way to make this more intense
2017-10-23 11:06 Emilia: despite the fact that the drums arent really there anymore, the guitar solo was super strong
2017-10-23 11:06 Emilia: and imo this killed quite a bit of momentum
2017-10-23 11:07 Weriko: okay
2017-10-23 11:07 Weriko: can make sv higher
2017-10-23 11:08 Emilia: 02:38:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this should be 1/6th? if you're following the guitar
2017-10-23 11:08 Emilia: 02:37:047 (9,10,11,12) - rhythm doesnt work nicely, suggest following guitar
2017-10-23 11:09 Emilia: 02:42:761 (1) - in this section the sliders are the random ones i mentioned just now, would suggest rework
2017-10-23 11:10 Emilia: 03:08:046 (4,5,6) - is this spacing deliberate?
2017-10-23 11:10 Emilia: 03:19:903 (1,1) - random
2017-10-23 11:11 Emilia: 03:36:760 (2) - ctrlg this?
2017-10-23 11:11 Emilia: distance doesnt really make sense
2017-10-23 11:12 Emilia: 03:29:617 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,5,6) - i quite like the rhythm but itd be nicer if it looked better and was a bit more structured
2017-10-23 11:12 Emilia: it should be less messed up if youre comparing the vocal qualities
2017-10-23 11:12 Weriko: oo
2017-10-23 11:12 Weriko: any suggestions for it to be less messy?
2017-10-23 11:13 Weriko: tried to make it not so messy but on high sv its hard to fit all sliders
2017-10-23 11:13 Emilia: uh i'll map something
2017-10-23 11:14 Weriko: ok
2017-10-23 11:18 Emilia:
https://puu.sh/y4R1B/786a146cbe.mp42017-10-23 11:18 Emilia: would suggest variation like this
2017-10-23 11:18 Emilia: ignore the shit on my desktop xd
2017-10-23 11:18 Weriko: wut
2017-10-23 11:18 Weriko: xd
2017-10-23 11:18 Weriko: okay
2017-10-23 11:19 Emilia: what you have is ok but
2017-10-23 11:19 Emilia: it doesnt need to be this messy
2017-10-23 11:19 Emilia: also i noticed u could do this as well
2017-10-23 11:19 Emilia:
https://puu.sh/y4R62/277e36850d.png2017-10-23 11:19 Emilia: for the rhythm here
2017-10-23 11:20 Emilia: which can make your life a little easier when it comes to slider making
2017-10-23 11:20 Emilia: 03:31:046 (1) - still dont know why this is 2x when the rest is 1.5 xd
2017-10-23 11:25 Weriko: woops
2017-10-23 11:27 Weriko: ok i think its less messy
2017-10-23 11:29 Emilia: 04:29:045 (1) - this whole section
2017-10-23 11:29 Emilia: imo pretty unreadable LOL
2017-10-23 11:29 Emilia: i couldnt play it well, u saw how i struggled
2017-10-23 11:29 Emilia: too many overlapping things, i couldnt see what i was supposed to track clearly
2017-10-23 11:30 Weriko: i know some spots which are hard to read
2017-10-23 11:30 Weriko: and ill change them
2017-10-23 11:30 Emilia: these04:48:245 (2,3,4,5) - are IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME ;
2017-10-23 11:30 Emilia: esp on hd
2017-10-23 11:30 Weriko: but... vaxei 1 missed that xdddd
2017-10-23 11:30 Emilia: 04:52:645 (3,4,5,6) - these too
2017-10-23 11:30 Weriko: with hd xd
2017-10-23 11:30 Weriko: but yeah
2017-10-23 11:30 Emilia: .
2017-10-23 11:30 Emilia: sobs im super cool down i just woke up dont bully me ;
2017-10-23 11:30 Weriko: rip
2017-10-23 11:30 Emilia: 04:59:145 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this was terrifying
2017-10-23 11:31 Weriko: thats one of the spots
2017-10-23 11:31 Weriko: i should change
2017-10-23 11:31 Weriko: even tho i repeat, vaxei got it idk how
2017-10-23 11:31 Weriko: but only person who has read it so.. ok i change
2017-10-23 11:31 Emilia: it should be fairly easy to do fotr top players
2017-10-23 11:31 Emilia: xd
2017-10-23 11:31 Weriko: i think the problem comes from the circles before
2017-10-23 11:31 Weriko: xd still
2017-10-23 11:31 Emilia: yea a little
2017-10-23 11:31 Emilia: 05:03:445 (4,5,1,2) - any reason for this?
2017-10-23 11:32 Weriko: yeah
2017-10-23 11:32 Emilia: well why
2017-10-23 11:32 Weriko: tried to follow drums
2017-10-23 11:32 Emilia: make them jumps instead then
2017-10-23 11:32 Emilia: makes it more intense
2017-10-23 11:32 Emilia: compared to reducing intensity
2017-10-23 11:33 Weriko: well also it was a place for resnapping and stuff
2017-10-23 11:33 Weriko: plust screams go less intense
2017-10-23 11:34 Emilia: well its up to u
2017-10-23 11:34 Emilia: cuz i think it plays and looks weird
2017-10-23 11:34 Emilia: thats all
2017-10-23 11:34 Weriko: ok
2017-10-23 11:35 Emilia: no triplet here 05:41:758 (1,2,3) -
2017-10-23 11:35 Emilia: and imo it can make way for a super retarded slider for the guitar
2017-10-23 11:36 Weriko: true
2017-10-23 11:36 Emilia: 05:44:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - u can increase spacing here a bit more, since the chorus later is SO SPACED
2017-10-23 11:36 Weriko: okay
2017-10-23 11:38 Emilia: 05:53:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this too
2017-10-23 11:39 Weriko: ok
2017-10-23 11:39 Emilia: yea the rest is repeating issues
2017-10-23 11:39 Emilia: about the unclean-ish stuff
2017-10-23 11:39 Emilia: thats about it tbh
2017-10-23 11:39 Emilia: i still think your base mapping ability is better than ranked maps nowadays lol
2017-10-23 11:41 Weriko: kek
2017-10-23 11:41 Weriko: :p
2017-10-23 11:41 Emilia: your jumps and stream shapes are quite nicely made, and they are well structured for what youre mapping
2017-10-23 11:41 Emilia: compared to the shit like kroytz
2017-10-23 11:42 Weriko: xd
2017-10-23 11:43 Weriko: okay ill try to fix those unclean spots
2017-10-23 11:44 Weriko: tyvm :3!
2017-10-23 11:44 Emilia: np!