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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年10月19日 at 19:15:22

Artist: ClariS
Title: Hologram
Tags: fairy castle clara alice Karen [C_u_r_i] Asuka_-
BPM: 153
Filesize: 3892kb
Play Time: 01:19
Difficulties Available:

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Artist ClariS

Title Hologram


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Image Easy
Image Normal
Image Hard
Image Insane
Image Curi's Insane
C u r i

Image Karen's Insane Karen
Image Asuka_-'s Insane Asuka_-
Last edited by Yasaija 714 on , edited 7 times in total.
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Asuka's
00:10:270 (2) - potentialy reduced to make it well align with the downbeat at 00:11:446 - . https://puu.sh/xInJa/d9165a4ede.png
00:13:995 (5) - move a bit further to make similar overlap like 00:16:544 (2) -
00:20:858 (5) - i would place it at x84 y240 to make repetation of slight jump usage with 00:19:878 (2,3) - and also make it well overlapped with 00:21:839 (3,5) -
00:27:133 (7) - move 1 grid to right. just to make it placed at the bg face identically フレームみたいな感じww
00:33:015 (4,1) - the stack a bit off
00:38:309 (1,2) - アスカらしいなこれー
00:41:643 (2) - expect this to be at x340 y352
00:45:760 (5,6,7,8,1) - 5 brust a bit too strong for this section to stack all of them at one point. maybe try a round pattern to give movement https://puu.sh/xInVO/f9bdf09899.png
01:05:760 (7) - NC
01:18:701 (5,6,7,8,1) - same as before, the tail deserved to get slight movement, if it was me maybe something like i apply at shiaawase's https://puu.sh/xInYg/e7739eee60.png

Karen's
00:06:152 (4) - a bit weird how you holing a strong beat support by hs but sparate the low one (3), you can just stack it at (2) actually
00:25:564 (4,5,1) - this feel more natural for the eflow itself imo https://puu.sh/xIoab/451f01f622.png
00:28:505 (5) - same as the first one, could be optimalized by pace it around x292 y216
00:44:192 (5) - you can stack it at 00:42:623 (5) - instead to give better layout
00:53:015 (4) - can i get a NC here?
for the whole kiai section i would actually reccomend to apply NC on the first note at triplet instead of the 3rd which is slider one. Both are fine, just by doing this you could reduce the spread of NC number itself

I don't really have words for the rest of diff tbh w
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Asuka's
00:20:858 (5) - i would place it at x84 y240 to make repetation of slight jump usage with 00:19:878 (2,3) - and also make it well overlapped with 00:21:839 (3,5) -
i think it's good flow, so keep for now.



_kotachi_ wrote:


Asuka_-'s Insane
  • 00:12:623 (4,5) - , この音はdrum-hitnormalがいいと思いました。これだと音楽のハイハットクローズ→オープンの「ツツチー」って音とマッチしてなくて違和感を感じました
  • 00:31:446 (5) - , 00:32:035 (1) - これと微妙に重なってるのでもうちょっと上に置くのはどうですか
  • 00:33:603 (1) - , Add clap?
  • 00:53:603 (8) - , ここもclapですかね
  • 01:06:348 (11) - , Ctrl+Gの方が次に繋ぎやすくていいと思いました
  • 01:11:054 (1,4) - , Stackmiss? 
    fixed all
    hitsoundミスの指摘めっちゃ助かります~! ありがとうございます!! 


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Code:
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[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 53897
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 53995,66544
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Hologram
TitleUnicode:ホログラム
Artist:ClariS
ArtistUnicode:ClariS
Creator:Yasaija 714
Version:Asuka_-'s Insane
Source:
Tags:fairy castle clara alice Karen [C_u_r_i] Asuka_-
BeatmapID:1425091
BeatmapSetID:673365

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4.5
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8.7
SliderMultiplier:1.7
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Last edited by Asuka_- on , edited 2 times in total.
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hey m4m from discord
※very short mod※
※I'm not good at English※



Hard
  • 00:01:250 (2,3) - , Stackとはいえちょっと近すぎると思うのは俺だけか
  • 00:37:917 (7) - , 折角音取ってるんだし何かしらhitsound付けたい…付けたくない?
  • 00:44:192 (5) - , ^
  • 00:54:584 (3) - , サビの中でこれだけclap無視してるからこれも00:55:172 - ここのclapの音取っといた方がいいと思う
  • うま


Insane


Curi's Insane


Karen's Insane


Asuka_-'s Insane
  • 00:12:623 (4,5) - , この音はdrum-hitnormalがいいと思いました。これだと音楽のハイハットクローズ→オープンの「ツツチー」って音とマッチしてなくて違和感を感じました
  • 00:31:446 (5) - , 00:32:035 (1) - これと微妙に重なってるのでもうちょっと上に置くのはどうですか
  • 00:33:603 (1) - , Add clap?
  • 00:53:603 (8) - , ここもclapですかね
  • 01:06:348 (11) - , Ctrl+Gの方が次に繋ぎやすくていいと思いました
  • 01:11:054 (1,4) - , Stackmiss?
  • ジャンプ最高

Claris愛しスギィ!!
Good luck! :)
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Mod as request! :)

Genal
Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
soft-sliderslide.wav 5.96ms
soft-sliderslide2.wav 5.96ms

Combo colors are not set at Asuka's diff, plz check it again.


Easy
00:22:623 (1) - remove NC cuz 00:13:211 (1,2,3,4) - you didnt NC
00:53:995 (1,2,3) - standing from 01:06:544 (1,2,3,4) - i deeply recommend to make those two rhythm same cuz they sounds similar.


Hard
00:14:388 (3) - would suggest to remove the whistle and add it at the head of 00:13:799 (2) - to follow the kick
00:54:584 (3,1) - like 01:01:446 (4,1) - 01:07:721 (4,1) - 01:13:995 (4,1) - , It would be better if you increase the ds here cuz there is a small jump here at those place in same rhythm


Insane
00:09:094 (3,4) - 00:07:525 (3,4) -00:10:074 (1,2) - maybe we can make it better if they are in similiar ds
00:28:309 (4,5) - ctrl+G the rhythm sounds better imo
00:39:486 (4,5) - compared with 00:41:054 (4,5) - ds here may be too narrow, deeply recommend to increase the ds
00:57:329 (2,4) - overlap here would destory the sense of clean, plz move it a little away


Curi
00:14:388 (5,1) - 00:17:524 (5,1) - you lap it in every 1/1 gap, so it would give players the same sense at 00:19:094 (5,6) - imo... how about move 6 away?
00:26:544 (3,4) - you make a small jump at 00:13:603 (3,4) - 00:15:172 (3,4) - so it would be more consistent if you jump it here,too
00:27:721 (2,3) - 00:29:290 (2,3) - ^00:30:858 (3,4) -


Karen
00:25:760 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉好气却又无法可说,666666


Asuka
00:50:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - would better the nerf the ds here to distinguish them with 00:52:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ,cuz they are down beat

hope it would be useful!
GL~
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_kotachi_ wrote:
hey m4m from discord
※very short mod※
※I'm not good at English※



Hard
  • 00:01:250 (2,3) - , Stackとはいえちょっと近すぎると思うのは俺だけか 保留
  • 00:37:917 (7) - , 折角音取ってるんだし何かしらhitsound付けたい…付けたくない? Clapだけじゃあ足りない?
  • 00:44:192 (5) - , ^ ^
  • 00:54:584 (3) - , サビの中でこれだけclap無視してるからこれも00:55:172 - ここのclapの音取っといた方がいいと思う ok
  • うま あざす!


Insane


Claris愛しスギィ!!
Good luck! :)


kanor wrote:
Mod as request! :)

Genal
Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
soft-sliderslide.wav 5.96ms ok
soft-sliderslide2.wav 5.96ms ^

Combo colors are not set at Asuka's diff, plz check it again.


Easy
00:22:623 (1) - remove NC cuz 00:13:211 (1,2,3,4) - you didnt NC ok
00:53:995 (1,2,3) - standing from 01:06:544 (1,2,3,4) - i deeply recommend to make those two rhythm same cuz they sounds similar. I adjust this to the lyrics.
In the same pattern it will be very strange against the lyrics



Hard
00:14:388 (3) - would suggest to remove the whistle and add it at the head of 00:13:799 (2) - to follow the kick I put a whistle according to the sound of the piano
00:54:584 (3,1) - like 01:01:446 (4,1) - 01:07:721 (4,1) - 01:13:995 (4,1) - , It would be better if you increase the ds here cuz there is a small jump here at those place in same rhythm maybe changed


Insane
00:09:094 (3,4) - 00:07:525 (3,4) -00:10:074 (1,2) - maybe we can make it better if they are in similiar ds ok
00:28:309 (4,5) - ctrl+G the rhythm sounds better imo ok
00:39:486 (4,5) - compared with 00:41:054 (4,5) - ds here may be too narrow, deeply recommend to increase the ds ok
00:57:329 (2,4) - overlap here would destory the sense of clean, plz move it a little away ok


hope it would be useful!
GL~


Thank you kotachi & kanor :)
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kanor wrote:

Genal
Combo colors are not set at Asuka's diff, plz check it again. oh ;d


Asuka
00:50:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - would better the nerf the ds here to distinguish them with 00:52:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ,cuz they are down beat
ok, i reduced distance of 00:51:446 (4,5) -. i think it has gotten better plobably lol


Thanks o/~
i talked to yasai and raised AR to 9.2.
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    Easy



  • 00:19:486 (1) - very close to the edge... I suggest you move up them a bit --> 00:16:348 (3,4,1) -

    Hard


  • 00:02:133 (1,1) - it look a bit far to the middle... isn't a bit difficult to catch for players in this level?
  • 00:11:446 (4) - it's special enough to add a NC

    insane


  • 00:33:407 (5) - to me, the flow would be better if you move it to x256 y172
  • 00:39:486 (4,5,1) - the space seems so limited when compared with others in this part... tbh, increase the spacing plz. It looks like 1/4 triple at the first sight
  • 00:52:427 (1,2) - no need to keep a stack which is not obvious... just make the slider straight towards the circle 00:52:819 (2) -

    curi's insane


  • firstly I suggest you turn down the 100% volume, it's too loud compared with other difficulties. then just change 00:26:741 (4,5) -, ---> map the 00:26:937 - snare out, cuz it's the only snare drum you ignored. the drum is so loud that makes it awkward when you try to follow the voice, and let the loudest snare drum vanish for no reason.

    karen's insane


  • 00:53:211 (5) - 我建议这里要NC,因为前面00:52:427 (1,2,3,4) - 的人声足够特殊,完全可以用一个颜色来区分开。
  • 01:08:897 (6) - 这里可以NC,因为有几声不一样的弦乐在这里开始 01:08:897 (6,7,8,9) -
  • 还是人哥无敌

    Asuka_-'s Insane


  • 00:12:623 (4) - I suggest you add a NC, it would remind ppl that the tempo changes...
  • 00:38:309 - obviously you could increase the volume here...
  • 00:53:211 (5) - add a nc to emphasize the voice 00:52:427 (1,2,3,4) -


Good Luck :)
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fix some stuffs
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339,303,66348,1,2,0:0:0:0:
292,310,66446,1,2,0:0:0:0:
250,288,66544,6,0,P|243:244|266:188,1,95.9999970703126,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,127,66937,1,8,0:0:0:0:
456,232,67133,2,0,P|421:259|361:268,1,95.9999970703126,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,72,67525,2,0,P|343:88|380:135,1,95.9999970703126,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,348,67917,6,0,B|360:365|311:338|311:338|254:304|207:336,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
130,377,68505,1,8,0:0:0:0:
269,219,68701,1,0,0:0:0:0:
269,219,68799,1,0,0:0:0:0:
269,219,68897,1,2,0:0:0:0:
217,329,69094,1,2,0:0:0:0:
96,279,69290,1,10,0:0:0:0:
148,169,69487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,169,69682,6,0,L|377:280,1,95.9999970703126,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,97,70074,1,8,0:0:0:0:
148,169,70270,2,0,L|135:280,1,95.9999970703126,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
21,253,70662,2,0,L|34:142,1,95.9999970703126,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
65,332,71054,6,0,P|145:365|225:280,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,264,71643,1,10,0:0:0:0:
303,349,71839,2,0,P|308:288|290:243,1,95.9999970703126,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
222,189,72231,1,2,0:0:0:0:
222,189,72329,1,0,0:0:0:0:
222,189,72427,1,8,0:0:0:0:
392,215,72623,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,215,72721,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,215,72819,6,0,P|450:203|479:155,1,95.9999970703126,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
318,83,73211,1,8,0:0:0:0:
222,189,73407,2,0,P|203:245|230:294,1,95.9999970703126,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,50,73799,2,0,P|285:5|229:4,1,95.9999970703126,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
66,104,74192,6,0,B|105:125|157:95|157:95|208:64|249:88,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,174,74780,1,8,0:0:0:0:
359,244,74976,2,0,B|320:223|268:253|268:253|217:284|177:260,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,174,75564,1,8,0:0:0:0:
324,332,75760,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,332,75858,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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206,361,76348,1,8,0:0:0:0:
384,259,76544,1,14,0:0:0:0:
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245,142,77133,1,10,0:0:0:0:
277,138,77231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
309,133,77329,2,0,P|317:154|321:193,1,47.9999985351563,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,69,77525,5,12,0:0:0:0:
391,306,78701,2,0,L|382:247,1,47.9999985351563,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
321,179,78897,2,0,L|330:120,1,47.9999985351563,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,60,79094,5,6,0:0:0:0:


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    Easy



  • 00:19:486 (1) - very close to the edge... I suggest you move up them a bit --> 00:16:348 (3,4,1) - ok

    Hard


  • 00:02:133 (1,1) - it look a bit far to the middle... isn't a bit difficult to catch for players in this level? maybe ok?
  • 00:11:446 (4) - it's special enough to add a NC ok

    insane


  • 00:33:407 (5) - to me, the flow would be better if you move it to x256 y172 It's better now
  • 00:39:486 (4,5,1) - the space seems so limited when compared with others in this part... tbh, increase the spacing plz. It looks like 1/4 triple at the first sight ok
  • 00:52:427 (1,2) - no need to keep a stack which is not obvious... just make the slider straight towards the circle 00:52:819 (2) - maybe ok?


Good Luck :)


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why not use default soft-whistle/finish, your coustom Hitsound same as default ver :(

pure fade out not suitable for ending …… only calm songs use it, mean "Dssolve", It's good for sleep you can find it in low BPM piano songs (いのちの名前/Flower Dance..etc) .. but brisk song use fade out or [ur=https://osu.ppy.sh/b/279376l]stop[/url], mean "End" .. scarcely any brisk song use pure fade out


Asuka_-'s Insane



Karen's Insane

  • 和你的音量线一起滚吧,我要静静,你们退群吧(大哥我错了不要砍我求求你回一句remap done给我留点面子大哥! )
  • 00:25:760 (1,2,3,4) - 这个有点搞,本来音乐进主歌正要发力裤子都脱了你就给别人看这个
  • 00:50:466 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 和你的jb 一起滚吧,我要静静,你们退群吧(大哥我不是故意的我真的不是故意的不要走啊大哥!!)
  • 中文真是世界上除了日文以外最美丽的语音,开头那一串英文我查了二十分钟的翻译真是日了poi
  • 01:18:701 (2,3,4,5,1) - 结尾比较适合用这种→01:17:035 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 特殊连打,尾杀比较霸气虽然肯定都死前面了。

    我的摸好像有点短,随便凑一行混一下,喵喵喵汪汪汪咩——


Insane

Hard

  • 00:02:231 (1) - a bit .. awkward, i really suggest skip it same as insnae diff


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why not use default soft-whistle/finish, your coustom Hitsound same as default ver :( I have not thought much meaning, but I turn it off if not usable

pure fade out not suitable for ending …… only calm songs use it, mean "Dssolve", It's good for sleep you can find it in low BPM piano songs (いのちの名前/Flower Dance..etc) .. but brisk song use fade out or [ur=https://osu.ppy.sh/b/279376l]stop[/url], mean "End" .. scarcely any brisk song use pure fade out



Insane

Hard

  • 00:02:231 (1) - a bit .. awkward, i really suggest skip it same as insnae diff oh nice!


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Hi. Here for M4M. Hope this helps.


Easy

00:44:584 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,1) – Sections like this one remind me of this guideline from the ranking criteria.

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Avoid slider-only sections. Aiming and following a lot of sliders in a row can be tiring for new players. In such cases, circles and rest moments without hitobjects to click or follow should be used.


Maybe make 00:51:643 (2) – into two circles to address this issue?

00:54:976 (2,3) – New players will be very tempted to read this as 1/1 rhythm. It looks like it would be hard to make a rhythm that is nicely readable, but one thing you can do is move (3)'s tail away from (2). By having that large distance be more noticeable between (2,3), players might catch there is more time between these objects, but having it this close might not. http://puu.sh/xMfqa/f513a36f46.jpg


Normal

00:43:603 (5,2) – If it's possible to give a little bit more space between these objects, that'd be nice

01:11:643 (5) – This is just overlapping the HP bar: http://puu.sh/xMeSz/fc0c0e86f2.jpg. If you could move it down that'd be great.


Hard

00:26:152 (2,3,4,5) – This felt a bit note dense for the song. Consider using a reverse slider like: http://puu.sh/xMedg/ed9f1db092.jpg

00:26:741 (5) – It's unfortunate that there's no clap hitsound here.

00:46:741 (3,1) – I feel like you could get these to stack which would look nicer. Giving yourself some room might lead you to something like: http://puu.sh/xMelQ/957d0d869e.jpg

00:49:093 (5,1) – I forget exactly which one it was, but I think it was this one that read a bit like 1/1 rhythm instead of ½ rhythm, so maybe give it a slight nerf to 1.85 spacing will be less confusing to some players.

01:11:643 (2,3,4) – Using sliders like this suggests repetition in the song, but I don't here any. The piano is changing up in rhythm and pitch. This flow pattern feels a bit inappropriate.

01:16:348 (2,4) – Consider making this DS 1.55 for the triangle with (3).


Insane

00:10:466 (2,3) – Wide angle + big spacing = harder than average pattern that didn't feel intuitive. Is it possible to nerf the spacing some? If not it's fine, but if there were some way to tweak it more I think that would help.

00:26:544 (4,5,6) – Consider your structure. Going for a trapezoid might be interesting: http://puu.sh/xMdyV/07cd5623e0.jpg

00:27:917 (3,4) – This flow did not come natural to me. It must have been the way I was listening to the song and looking at your visual cues. 00:26:741 (5,1) – These are vertical sliders that use their direction and previous flow to indicate the clockwise flow will continue, setting up 00:27:133 (6,2) - . However, there are two changes at (3) that did not make me keep that expectation. One is that the singer has a strong and different note at 00:27:917 (3) - , so I expected the flow to change with the singer. That also made sense because (3) is different because it is horizontal now. So it seemed like everything was going for a flow change here. That's why I think you should move (4) to somewhere else and change the flow. If you disagree with a flow change, maybe setting up your cues will help by doing something like: http://puu.sh/xMdKk/0fef0d23b4.jpg

00:47:721 (1,4) – and 01:07:917 (1,4) – overlaps like this aren't ideal to look at. I wouldn't say they're unrankable, but try avoiding flows like this in the future that have no solution beyond overlapping.

01:07:917 (1,5) – Make sure you look at this when stacking is turned on since that will be what the player will see (it's under the view toolbar). I don't like that (5,1) don't blanket, so try having 01:07:525 (4,5) – perfectly stack and move 01:09:192 (6,7) – down with it.


Curi's Insane

00:05:956 (4,6) – This stack is really annoying to read.

00:11:446 (1,2,1,1) – The triangle pattern makes me expect repetition out of these sliders. Having 00:12:231 (1) – be a different SV/length in time really betrays that expectation. Try using a different pattern that doesn't set up that expectation. If you want an idea for how that might work: http://puu.sh/xMcDF/5b9629b82f.png

00:26:741 (4) – Really unfortunate that the song doesn't allow for a clap hitsound here. Your claps really stand out, so I was really desperate for one here.

00:36:937 (1,1,1) – The hitsounds around this area feel underwhelming; it feels like it could use a little somethin' somethin'. I added normal hitnormals to the heads of these sliders and kept the soft additions, and while a custom hitsound might be more appropriate, I feel like that kind of effect emphasizes the guitar nicely here.

00:52:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is the hardest pattern in the song. This is the climax of your map. This is not the climax of the song, and as a result of this difficult pattern, I didn't enjoy the rest of the chorus. There isn't much challenge to the rest of the map, so after I finish this pattern, I'm just kind of waiting for the map to end. If you want to keep it as it is, try beefing up your chorus.

01:13:799 (4,1,2,3) – The flow into the (2) circle felt jarring. You make me stretch to get (1), but then the flow into (2) doesn't make me stretch, it makes me backtrace my steps. Then you wrangle me back in the other direction into (3). This step backwards felt out of place for this flow structure, and while the aesthetics are nice, I feel like there are other nice looking pattterns that would flow better here. Or maybe I'm being a bit dramatic about this XD.


Karen's Insane

00:25:760 (1,2,3,4) – Too much. The drop in intensity is too much. The music has actually gotten stronger imo, and this doesn't reflect that well. Also compare this to 00:52:623 (2,3,4,5) - . If your target audience is someone who can handle this, don't you think that 1/1 with low spacing underestimates your audience?

00:52:623 (2,3,4,5) – This is the hardest pattern in the song. This is the climax of your map. This is not the climax of the song, and as a result of this difficult pattern, I didn't enjoy the rest of the chorus. There isn't much challenge to the rest of the map, so after I finish this pattern, I'm just kind of waiting for the map to end. If you want to keep it as it is, try beefing up your chorus.


Asuka_-'s Insane

00:28:897 (1,2,3) – the ¼ rhythm felt a little out of place because circles after a slider are a bit odd and you don't use ¼ rhythms a lot throughout this section. The ¼ rhythm in the song is also very faint, so this triple didn't fit to me. You do use ¼ rhythms on drums like 00:25:564 (6,7,1) - , but on this section you ignore the drum triple at 00:28:799 - . I think that drum ¼ is the more prominent ¼, so maybe if you have a ¼ rhythm, it should be more like: http://puu.sh/xMbBo/67ad59a44f.png

00:49:486 (2,3,4) – I like the way this is spaced out. Is there a technique behind it?

01:13:799 (5,1) – I don't disagree with the idea behind this flow, it makes a lot of sense what you're trying to do by using uncomfortable flow. But you don't have to change much to change a lot. So try making this slightly less uncomfortable by stacking (1)'s head on 01:14:976 (4) - .




Good luck!
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Easy

00:44:584 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,1) – Sections like this one remind me of this guideline from the ranking criteria. Maybe it's a map consisting only of sliders. There is no problem here

Quote:
Avoid slider-only sections. Aiming and following a lot of sliders in a row can be tiring for new players. In such cases, circles and rest moments without hitobjects to click or follow should be used.


Maybe make 00:51:643 (2) – into two circles to address this issue? Because the same sound is ringing it is wrong to separate the slider and the circle

00:54:976 (2,3) – New players will be very tempted to read this as 1/1 rhythm. It looks like it would be hard to make a rhythm that is nicely readable, but one thing you can do is move (3)'s tail away from (2). By having that large distance be more noticeable between (2,3), players might catch there is more time between these objects, but having it this close might not. http://puu.sh/xMfqa/f513a36f46.jpg It is the best now when considering the arrangement after


Normal

00:43:603 (5,2) – If it's possible to give a little bit more space between these objects, that'd be nice I will change it if there is a problem

01:11:643 (5) – This is just overlapping the HP bar: http://puu.sh/xMeSz/fc0c0e86f2.jpg. If you could move it down that'd be great. ok


Hard

00:26:152 (2,3,4,5) – This felt a bit note dense for the song. Consider using a reverse slider like: http://puu.sh/xMedg/ed9f1db092.jpg It will be a very strange rhythm

00:26:741 (5) – It's unfortunate that there's no clap hitsound here. Do you need Clap here?

00:46:741 (3,1) – I feel like you could get these to stack which would look nicer. Giving yourself some room might lead you to something like: http://puu.sh/xMelQ/957d0d869e.jpg This is my style

00:49:093 (5,1) – I forget exactly which one it was, but I think it was this one that read a bit like 1/1 rhythm instead of ½ rhythm, so maybe give it a slight nerf to 1.85 spacing will be less confusing to some players. no problem

01:11:643 (2,3,4) – Using sliders like this suggests repetition in the song, but I don't here any. The piano is changing up in rhythm and pitch. This flow pattern feels a bit inappropriate. ok

01:16:348 (2,4) – Consider making this DS 1.55 for the triangle with (3). It's only because you can see far since the circles are overlapping


Insane

00:10:466 (2,3) – Wide angle + big spacing = harder than average pattern that didn't feel intuitive. Is it possible to nerf the spacing some? If not it's fine, but if there were some way to tweak it more I think that would help. no problem

00:26:544 (4,5,6) – Consider your structure. Going for a trapezoid might be interesting: http://puu.sh/xMdyV/07cd5623e0.jpg no!

00:27:917 (3,4) – This flow did not come natural to me. It must have been the way I was listening to the song and looking at your visual cues. 00:26:741 (5,1) – These are vertical sliders that use their direction and previous flow to indicate the clockwise flow will continue, setting up 00:27:133 (6,2) - . However, there are two changes at (3) that did not make me keep that expectation. One is that the singer has a strong and different note at 00:27:917 (3) - , so I expected the flow to change with the singer. That also made sense because (3) is different because it is horizontal now. So it seemed like everything was going for a flow change here. That's why I think you should move (4) to somewhere else and change the flow. If you disagree with a flow change, maybe setting up your cues will help by doing something like: http://puu.sh/xMdKk/0fef0d23b4.jpg I will change it when BN points out

00:47:721 (1,4) – and 01:07:917 (1,4) – overlaps like this aren't ideal to look at. I wouldn't say they're unrankable, but try avoiding flows like this in the future that have no solution beyond overlapping. no problem

01:07:917 (1,5) – Make sure you look at this when stacking is turned on since that will be what the player will see (it's under the view toolbar). I don't like that (5,1) don't blanket, so try having 01:07:525 (4,5) – perfectly stack and move 01:09:192 (6,7) – down with it. Stack firmly





Good luck!


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Hitsounding
- 01:04:780 - This having a finish is a bit weird considering the song plays a finish after it on 01:04:976 - lol. Maybe move it to 01:04:976 - ?
- 01:17:035 - 01:17:231 - Having no hitsounds for these feels a bit off since there's a snare roll being mapped and the other snares on the white/reds were hitsounded. I think a whistle to emphasize 01:17:329 - is enough to show the slight difference in the snares, but removing the snares from the blue ticks feels really weird imo.

Asuka's Insane
- 00:02:819 (2,3) - I feel like differentiating the fact that 00:02:819 (2) - has two piano and 00:03:015 (3) - has only one would be nice here. Maybe by making 3 a circle or 2 a triple?
- 00:50:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - In play the increase of spacing on 1,2,3,4 after the 8-note jump section felt quite underwhelming. Perhaps setting up more contrast by reducing the spacing of 00:50:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - slightly would be nice?
- 01:03:407 (1,2) - This pause fits the vocals very well, but I wonder why you didn't use the same pause for 01:04:192 (4) - ? I know there's a drum there but it is fairly faint and easily skippable. It's up to you in the end I suppose.
- 01:07:525 (5,6,1) - With how 5 maps the held vocal, I would imagine 6 would as well. There's the same held vocal there and the downbeat can be put on a slider end due to it not being as strong. It would also help put more emphasis on 01:08:309 (2,3,4,5,6) - being more distinct notes in the song due to rhythm contrast. On top of that, you also did that at 01:10:270 (4,5,1).

Karen's Insane
- 00:25:760 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not sure why this is so undermapped when the rest of this section never undermaps like this again. It would be more appropriate imo to map this normally rather than have only 1/1 circles.
- 00:31:643 (4) - Seeing as this is hitsounded with snares and there are also two distinct vocals it would probably fit if there were two circles here too.

Curi's Insane
- 00:07:133 (2) - Would be nice to have two circles for the guitar thingy. Would also emphasize 00:07:525 (3) - more since it's fairly long.
- 00:26:741 (4,5) - I think this is the only time you skip a drum? It would have been consistent to also skip one of 00:32:623 (2,3) - but I think this is a bit off considering that no other drums are skipped like this.

Insane
- 00:39:486 (4,5,1) - Equalizing this spacing so it looks like https://i.imgur.com/pJAAoAG.png might be nice? Also are you sure you want to skip the blue tick 00:39:780 - since that can be used as a triple and was mapped with 00:45:760 (4,5,6,7,1).
- 00:52:427 (1,2,3) - This gets barely any emphasis since it's spaced the same as 00:51:643 (4,5,6,7) - but the sound is much much stronger. I recommend either spacing it more or spacing 00:51:643 (4,5,6,7) - less.
- 01:08:701 (3,4) - Odd you decide to skip this triple then overmap a triple right after on 01:09:094 (5,6,7) - lol.

Hard
- 00:37:917 (7) - I feel like a 1/4 reverse could fit here since you do that for most other 1/4 rolls.
- 00:39:780 - Triple here could be nice, have some active 1/4 since the Insane uses quite a bit of it. 00:45:564 (4,1) - can be swapped for a more 1/4-centric rhythm and mapping triples on 00:47:623 - 00:50:564 - etc would be nice.
- 01:06:152 (4) - 1/4 reverse would be cool here since both drums and strings go 1/4 here. Using more 1/4 for 01:05:368 (2,3) - as well could be nice but that's more minor - namely 01:05:662 - and 01:06:054 - could be triples.
- 01:17:133 (6) - 1/4 reverse here could be cool.

Lol mostly just more 1/4 expression.

Normal
- 00:49:290 (1) - Maybe remove NC referring to 00:43:015 (3) - ? 00:50:858 (1) - Removing this would put more emphasis on the NC of 00:52:427 - as well.

Easy seems fine.

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