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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:45:21 PM

Artist: Sara
Title: Ren Ren Ai Ai Cir Cir Cula Cula Tion Tion
Source: 化物語
Tags: breakcore 千石撫子 Sengoku Nadeko 花澤 香菜 Hanazawa Kana bakemonogatari renai circulation Aloda newyams99 JUDYDANNY
BPM: 220
Filesize: 2877kb
Play Time: 01:39
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Aloda's Muzkashii by Aloda
Juda's Oni by JUDYDANNY
7's Inner Oni by newyams99
Last edited by Backfire on , edited 37 times in total.
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omg omg this map this map is is back back Mod Mod Time Time


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  • I don't know if it's considerable but 00:45:030 - :arrow: this part makes me feel as if it's 6/4 metronome 'till 00:48:303 - , 00:53:757 - as well.
  • Set a preview point lol


Kan Kan Tan Tan
    I have no complain. Patterns are consistent, breaks are enough and difficulty is safe.


Foot Foot Shoe Shoe


Aloda's Aloda's Muzu Muzu
  • 00:08:757 (22) - This 6plet doesn't look consistent to other 1/1 triplets to be honest, there's nothing different. So you can split the pattern by deleting this.
  • 01:01:121 (63) - Maybe change it to kat in order to represent the vocal.
  • 01:10:939 (46) - There are 2/1 spacings in this section except here. Consider deleting this.


JuDa's JuDa's Oni Oni
  • 00:31:666 (23) - I can't see why you used kat here. There's nothing to have a kat. Don also would make better flow with previous kat.
  • 01:15:303 (39) - Just a suggestion, how about moving it to 01:15:166 - to have a vocal emphasize here.
    I couldn't find nothing much, looks pretty well mapped.


newyams' newyams' Inner Inner



Tai Tai Ko Ko Calypse Calypse
  • 00:03:575 (32) - In this part, almost all measures start with a kat, so that don breaks flow a bit. When all parts start with kat, this don confused and got me fingerlock. Consider changing it to kat please.
  • 00:47:757 (479,480,481,482,483,484,485) - Considering 00:46:121 - part, this 7plet blocks balancing those two parts. So I suggest you splitting to d kdkkd
  • 01:08:144 - Just a suggestion, no need to apply. You didn't have to split this 1/6 dkkd, you could fill here by adding a don so it'd be more consistent.
  • 01:30:848 (342) - Same issue as first. 3 dons in a row might get people confused, so change to kat to better the flow. 01:34:121 (377) - as well.

I focused on spacing when check lower diffs, focused on how patterns reflect the song when check high diffs. That's all I guess, good good luck luck!!
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@Futsuu
1 : Alright, I deleted some notes in the part to give it some wiggle room.
2 : Kind of same as above.
3 : Did what you asked and move the 4 over to the other 2. so they're both 3.

@Muzu + Inner
Newyams is gone but he told me before I could modify it for him, same with juda. I applied the muzu stuff as well but aloda is around I'm gonna ask him later if he's cool with it. The changes looked good to me.

I did some tweaking to inner so it's kinda similar to what you were saying.

@Taikocalypse
I applied everything except the 7plet part because it is kinda specific structure to the map, everything is supposed to repeat. The pattern before is ddk kkd, so it's combining them. Makes sense? I hope ;w; Thanks a lot btw.
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Don't forget to change the preview point of Aloda's Muzu btw, forgot to say :"V and other diffs ofc
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zigizigiefe wrote:
Don't forget to change the preview point of Aloda's Muzu btw, forgot to say :"V and other diffs ofc

They are I thought?
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Backfire wrote:
zigizigiefe wrote:
Don't forget to change the preview point of Aloda's Muzu btw, forgot to say :"V and other diffs ofc

They are I thought?

When I saw they are unchanged, I thought you forget. Sorry ;w;
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leaving a steaming pile of doo doo here

K a K a n t n t a n a n


00:11:212 (12,13) - These notes on both section of the music here can be ctrl-g'd since the pitch changes, right now it's kinda of awkward since there's a k on a note where there was a d before.


F u F u t s t s u u u u


◾ Same point as the kkaannttaann except you're using those 1/1 spaced whatevers.
01:10:666 (148,149) - These two notes should be moved to 01:11:757 - here since the vocal phrasing is like that, and that stands out more to a new player than those bloops and blips (there's a lot of bloops and blips).


Aloda's Mu Mu zu zu ka ka sh sh i i


◾ Maybe make the pattern at the beginning more like this?
00:09:303 (23) - Finisher makes no sense, remove.
01:01:394 (64,65,66) - Finishers also don't make sense, but I would just replace this with a ddkdk k into that D because the drums fit.
01:04:121 - The vocal splices here aren't mapped but the basically unemphasized space before this point is? They're obvious and whatever is being mapped before is not.


JuDa's On On i i ch ch an an


◾ I will never understand why people place so many bookmarks.
00:37:734 (63,64) - Deleting these two and placing a ddk leading into 00:37:939 - would better represent the music and be more fun to play. Repeat for the next section if changed.
01:10:394 (7) - Moving this to 01:10:257 - here would be beneficial as too map that rare bloop noise


newyams' In In ne ne rO rO ni ni


00:06:848 - A rhythm like this fits way better here to my ears, and it can be applied to the rest of this section as well.
◽ This is 2fast4me man it hurts to look at.


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Nifty wrote:
leaving a steaming pile of doo doo here

K a K a n t n t a n a n


00:11:212 (12,13) - These notes on both section of the music here can be ctrl-g'd since the pitch changes, right now it's kinda of awkward since there's a k on a note where there was a d before.


F u F u t s t s u u u u


◾ Same point as the kkaannttaann except you're using those 1/1 spaced whatevers.
01:10:666 (148,149) - These two notes should be moved to 01:11:757 - here since the vocal phrasing is like that, and that stands out more to a new player than those bloops and blips (there's a lot of bloops and blips).


Aloda's Mu Mu zu zu ka ka sh sh i i


◾ Maybe make the pattern at the beginning more like this?
00:09:303 (23) - Finisher makes no sense, remove.
01:01:394 (64,65,66) - Finishers also don't make sense, but I would just replace this with a ddkdk k into that D because the drums fit.
01:04:121 - The vocal splices here aren't mapped but the basically unemphasized space before this point is? They're obvious and whatever is being mapped before is not.


JuDa's On On i i ch ch an an


◾ I will never understand why people place so many bookmarks.
00:37:734 (63,64) - Deleting these two and placing a ddk leading into 00:37:939 - would better represent the music and be more fun to play. Repeat for the next section if changed.
01:10:394 (7) - Moving this to 01:10:257 - here would be beneficial as too map that rare bloop noise


newyams' In In ne ne rO rO ni ni


00:06:848 - A rhythm like this fits way better here to my ears, and it can be applied to the rest of this section as well.
◽ This is 2fast4me man it hurts to look at.


ye

Applied all except the kantan + futsuu shared change + Newyams thing, I think it's fine how it is.
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hello Bakafire ♥ sorry for rally lat mod :(


General

- Looks great


Kan Kan tan tan

- add one don here 00:50:757 (65) - in that moment have 2 sounds of the drum is no so hard is not too easy bur :3


Fut Fut su su

- is is ok ok


Alo Alo da's da's Muzu Muzu kashi kashi

- 00:18:848 (1,2) - finisher on bot the sound is a clash


JuDa's JuDa's Oni Oni

- HOLY BOOKMARKS, chane to d 00:29:075 (9) - and delete this one 00:29:348 (11) - to follow the music (?) ( well you are following the drum so dk is you will do this xd)
- ctrl + g this 01:10:530 (8,9) - the sound is decreasing
- you should add one spinner at final to keep the same mapped time "MAPPED" xd idk if this is rankeable :o so is better to prevent before regret (?)


new new yam's yam's Inner Inner Oni Oni ♥

- is is good good for for me me


Tai Tai ko ko Calyp Calyp se se

- I I lo lo ve ve this this one one so so I I can't can't find find any any sugges sugges tion tion


Co Co men men ta ta ri ri os os

Good Good luck luck ran ran king king this this one one ♥ ♥
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reply to that mod and i'll return
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reply to that mod and i'll return

i will after class so gimme an hour

Applied all except the second point on Oni, thanks chichi.

Ok now its done.
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hey i've returned like i said

check the countdown on all the diffs, some of them have them on, others don't. all should be off
preview points need to be set for newyams' inner oni and juda's oni
also i need the metadata source please

biggest problems overall are in the muzu and oni


aloda's muzukashii
most of the 2/1 breaks in this difficulty sound really forced, keep in mind that this is a muzu and while 2/1 breaks are required, you don't have to force them into areas where there is still loud stuff going on
00:13:666 (17,18,19) - like here for instance, i think there's no need for a 2/1 break here because later in the song you have a 3/1 break, and at this level of difficulty when there's no 1/4, breaks aren't a necessity just yet. i think you could delete note 18, and make a d d k on 00:13:939 - , which might sound a little bit better. it also keeps emphasis on the bigger hits like 00:10:121 (1,2) - , and keeps the rhythm structure of x x xxx x x xxx... coherent as well
00:18:575 - you could place a note here to lead into 00:18:848 (1) - if you'd like to, i think it sounds nice and places a certain emphasis on that note as well
00:22:394 (17,18,19) - refer to 00:13:666
00:27:030 (39,40,41) - perhaps you could use some color variation here, the drums and vocals are changing pitch quite a bit here
00:44:757 - there's a big hit thats worth noticing, i recommend placing a d here (or a D if you feel like it)
01:05:212 (14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - i recommend using these patterns instead https://puu.sh/xUcn1/25c0470816.png : because the 2/1 break also sounds kind of forced here, i traded it out for a 3/2 break that fits comfortably into both the vocals and the drums. sounds better and plays a little bit better without the awkward pause for me
01:09:030 (34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44) - similar to trying to get rid of the awkward 2/1 break here, i used this instead for the same reasons https://puu.sh/xUcBl/a9457df18a.png . this also places emphasis on the laser beam-ish sounds at 01:10:666 and 01:10:939
01:14:484 (18,19,20,21,22) - refer to 01:05:212
01:23:484 (17,18,19) - refer to 00:13:666
01:32:212 (17,18,19) - also refer to 00:13:666


juda's oni
the main problem here is that imo the spread between this oni and the inner oni is a bit too big, and can easily be fixed with the addition of 1/4 across the map. starting at 00:27:575 - is where i personally think the 1/4 usage should go up quite a bit, and definitely in the kiai as well
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the spread here is quite one sided, there's absolutely no 1/4 in the oni while the inner oni is sprawling in it. placing triplets, monocolor or dualcolor at places like 00:14:689 - and 00:15:780 - , where there are some triplet sounds present i think could do the spread some good
similar things can be said about the kiai time in general:
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where as one uses a lot of 1/4 patterns, the other sticks to only 1 usage of a 1/4 triplet within 4 bars of music. there are so many things to follow in the kiai that you could use for plotting some more triplets and some basic 5 plets, i think you should use them to your advantage as best you can :)


taikocalypse
the only thing i advise here is to decrease the usage of 1/6 in the kiai to either once per stream or none at all, especially because in the inner oni they emphasis those vocals by using finishers, finishers -> 1/6 is kind of a weird and big difficulty jump imo

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Applied literally everything.

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a pesky volume green line vs. red line slipped past me in the inner oni, apologies
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