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Applied alot. Gone over it twice and did some more.gtfo wrote:
Lengthy irc mod for Insane and Light Insane2017-09-23 00:49 gtfo: 00:09:307 (1,1) - still not a fan of this
2017-09-23 00:49 David-: ?
2017-09-23 00:49 gtfo: 00:12:205 (1,2,3,4) - did you make this... by hand? could use some rotataions lul lel xd xd
2017-09-23 00:50 gtfo: 00:22:091 (4) -
2017-09-23 00:50 gtfo: how did you even manage this
2017-09-23 00:50 David-: I do grids with 2 circle 120 degree spam tactics
2017-09-23 00:50 gtfo: i parodied you man
2017-09-23 00:50 gtfo: pls ...
2017-09-23 00:51 gtfo: 00:22:262 (5,1) -
2017-09-23 00:51 gtfo: still not a fan I'll probably think of something
2017-09-23 00:51 gtfo: also
2017-09-23 00:51 gtfo: 3-4 and 4.5 is by 0.004 different
2017-09-23 00:51 gtfo: and this makes a line between 3 and 5 appear gj
2017-09-23 00:51 David-: where what
2017-09-23 00:51 gtfo: move a pixel up
2017-09-23 00:51 David-: where xd
2017-09-23 00:51 gtfo: 00:22:262 (5) - fixed
2017-09-23 00:52 David-: LOL
2017-09-23 00:52 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGtL9.png
2017-09-23 00:52 gtfo: literaly a pixel that matters
2017-09-23 00:52 gtfo: im not joking atm
2017-09-23 00:52 David-: fixed
2017-09-23 00:53 David-: my lines are too transparent to see it
2017-09-23 00:53 gtfo: 00:22:262 (5,1) - can you imagine stacking those? yep, stacked
2017-09-23 00:53 gtfo: it feels very unnatural to have such low spacing ther
2017-09-23 00:53 gtfo: e
2017-09-23 00:54 David-: 00:20:728 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - id rather change those
2017-09-23 00:54 David-: to somehow get it on00:22:603 (1) -
2017-09-23 00:54 David-: shit is connected lol
2017-09-23 00:54 David-: one change and I'm dead
2017-09-23 00:54 David-: 00:20:898 (2,3) - i dont like that is also why
2017-09-23 00:55 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGtRl.png can you maybe make this so its straight or visibly different and not something inbetween?
2017-09-23 00:55 gtfo: 00:27:375 (1,2) -
2017-09-23 00:56 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGtUq.png did it
2017-09-23 00:56 David-: fixed
2017-09-23 00:56 gtfo: dont think this is such a difficult fix
2017-09-23 00:56 David-: no the problem is
2017-09-23 00:56 David-: press ctrl a
2017-09-23 00:56 David-: 00:22:603 (1) - and watch that bi***
2017-09-23 00:56 David-: its a fille xd
2017-09-23 00:56 David-: filler*
2017-09-23 00:57 gtfo: 00:31:125 (5,1,2) - i dont really see the point in making 5,1 spacing smaller than 1,2 its not 1.2 but 1.5
2017-09-23 00:57 gtfo: guess it works but it looks uncomfortable
2017-09-23 00:57 David-: the woosh sound
2017-09-23 00:58 David-: and its 1.5
2017-09-23 00:58 gtfo: 00:35:983 (1) - kind of weird
2017-09-23 00:58 gtfo: its clearly a voice spinner it is and was a spinner tho lol
2017-09-23 00:58 David-: i spin clockwise not weird
2017-09-23 00:58 David-: i dont like voice sliders
2017-09-23 00:58 gtfo: 00:37:432 - but the voice ends here and you decided to end it on a beat 1/2 earlier sounds awkward ending it later
2017-09-23 00:58 gtfo: its not about the direction of spinning
2017-09-23 00:59 David-: ending the spinner there sounds weird as hell
2017-09-23 00:59 gtfo: tbh I'd get rid of the spinner and map it meh
2017-09-23 00:59 gtfo: 00:37:773 (1,2,3) - the start here feels just wrong
2017-09-23 00:59 gtfo: like you start in the middle of the thing
2017-09-23 01:00 gtfo: 00:37:773 (1) - atleast delete this did it
2017-09-23 01:00 David-: can do that
2017-09-23 01:00 David-: agreeable
2017-09-23 01:01 gtfo: 00:42:034 (3,3) - is this on purpose? I recommend you to fully stack it and if you dont want to do that atleast move it one right and one up yep
2017-09-23 01:02 gtfo: 00:52:944 (3,4) - should be 1/3 imo did it
2017-09-23 01:02 David-: i stacked it
2017-09-23 01:02 gtfo: dadada dadada daa
2017-09-23 01:02 gtfo: definitely 1/3
2017-09-23 01:03 gtfo: 00:53:625 (1,2,3) - like this way better than in the insane
2017-09-23 01:03 gtfo: 00:59:762 (1,1) - wont really notice it while playing but why not stack it
2017-09-23 01:04 David-: did the 1/3 thing
2017-09-23 01:04 gtfo: 01:08:114 (1,2) - missed the stacking
2017-09-23 01:04 gtfo: 01:07:262 (2,1) - if you went for this
2017-09-23 01:04 David-: fixed
2017-09-23 01:04 gtfo: you should still stack it
2017-09-23 01:04 gtfo: and move it down with ctrl
2017-09-23 01:04 gtfo: but if you do that
2017-09-23 01:05 gtfo: 00:43:909 (5,2,3) - you should do it her as wel did both
2017-09-23 01:05 gtfo: 01:01:807 (2) - kinda like the elvis touch lol
2017-09-23 01:05 David-: why are those sliders elvis like lol
2017-09-23 01:05 gtfo: 01:10:671 (4) - not what i would do but i guess it works
2017-09-23 01:06 David-: you'll like the low effort ending xd
2017-09-23 01:06 David-: oh well
2017-09-23 01:06 David-: not done at that point
2017-09-23 01:06 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGuiY.png no elvis
2017-09-23 01:06 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGuji.png little elvis
2017-09-23 01:07 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGujC.png totally elvis
2017-09-23 01:07 David-: why has that become an elvis thing
2017-09-23 01:07 gtfo: 01:18:000 (1,2) - its stacked but kinda looks weird might just be me moved some pixels
2017-09-23 01:08 gtfo: cuz elvis was the one popularizing this slider
2017-09-23 01:08 gtfo: 01:18:682 (4,5) - well youre mapping voice but its kinda off putting
2017-09-23 01:08 gtfo: but you probably know that its fine
2017-09-23 01:08 David-: 01:22:944 (1,2,3,1,2) - voice strats amirite xd
2017-09-23 01:08 gtfo: 01:22:091 (4,1) - i like perfectly stacking those
2017-09-23 01:09 gtfo: by ctrl g on 1 stacking it and ctrl g again
2017-09-23 01:09 gtfo: you might wanna consider giving the blanket some more space did that later on
2017-09-23 01:09 gtfo: it looks rather weird
2017-09-23 01:09 gtfo: other than that nice idea
2017-09-23 01:10 David-: wow its low effort from my view lmao
2017-09-23 01:10 David-: 01:27:716 - this should be a voice slider but i suck at that
2017-09-23 01:10 gtfo: also i think you should rotate it a bit up or rotate it down so its symmetrical yea
2017-09-23 01:11 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGute.png
2017-09-23 01:11 gtfo: not mapping the end? finished later on
2017-09-23 01:11 gtfo: shouldnt do that
2017-09-23 01:11 David-: can you like do that and send me an osz with a different diffname?
2017-09-23 01:11 David-: xd
2017-09-23 01:12 gtfo: wanna go through insane too?
2017-09-23 01:12 David-: sure
2017-09-23 01:12 gtfo: what do that? the ending?
2017-09-23 01:12 gtfo: pls
2017-09-23 01:12 David-: i put a circle slider lmao
2017-09-23 01:12 David-: btw lemme udate quick
2017-09-23 01:13 gtfo: remember using the same combo colors on the diffs
2017-09-23 01:14 gtfo: 00:03:682 (4,2) - missed stack ye
2017-09-23 01:14 David-: le fixed
2017-09-23 01:14 gtfo: 00:05:898 (1,1) - i still dont know why youre doing that artificially
2017-09-23 01:15 gtfo: i think it would be fine perfectly stacke
2017-09-23 01:15 gtfo: d
2017-09-23 01:15 gtfo: even looking better
2017-09-23 01:15 gtfo: but i guess thats my opinion
2017-09-23 01:15 gtfo: 00:08:625 (4) - also i still think this is too close
2017-09-23 01:15 David-: I stacked it lul
2017-09-23 01:15 gtfo: 00:10:671 (3,1) - this looks just awkward why not stack it perfectly?
2017-09-23 01:16 David-: same for that cuz I'm starting to hate custom overlaps
2017-09-23 01:16 David-: idk why I was so fond of it
2017-09-23 01:16 gtfo: 00:16:807 (1,4) - guess you didnt stack those yep
2017-09-23 01:16 David-: fuk
2017-09-23 01:16 gtfo: on purpose
2017-09-23 01:16 gtfo: maybe not
2017-09-23 01:17 David-: it is supposed to be
2017-09-23 01:17 David-: I did something
2017-09-23 01:17 gtfo: 00:21:239 (2,2) - but hay atleast youre now using normal overlaps
2017-09-23 01:17 gtfo: 00:22:603 (2,4) - works both ways but i still prefere the exact overlap
2017-09-23 01:18 David-: i think the custom one is definitely needed there lol
2017-09-23 01:18 gtfo: 00:27:716 (1,2) - idk maybe move it down a tiny tiny bit
2017-09-23 01:18 David-: i fixed it earlier
2017-09-23 01:18 gtfo: 00:29:421 (2,1,2,3,4,1) -
2017-09-23 01:18 gtfo: still not really fond of that part
2017-09-23 01:19 David-: you told me to and it should be perfectly aligned
2017-09-23 01:19 David-: i like it
2017-09-23 01:19 gtfo: 00:29:932 (2,3,4) - here youre mapping drums
2017-09-23 01:19 gtfo: 00:29:591 - but here is the exact same kind of drum and youre completely ignoring it
2017-09-23 01:20 David-: there's no drum lol
2017-09-23 01:20 gtfo: ye its not a drum
2017-09-23 01:20 gtfo: but it sure is percussion
2017-09-23 01:21 gtfo: it just kinda sounds weird but it should be fine
2017-09-23 01:21 David-: I think its safer to go for white tick lol
2017-09-23 01:21 David-: 00:37:773 - update: circle removed
2017-09-23 01:21 gtfo: 00:33:512 (2) - cant you tweak it to have a circle on the voice?
2017-09-23 01:22 David-: 00:30:444 (1,2) -
2017-09-23 01:22 David-: same there
2017-09-23 01:22 gtfo: 00:35:216 - I dont really get the decrease in spacing will probably change later on...
2017-09-23 01:22 David-: for consistency's sake
2017-09-23 01:22 gtfo: except theres no voice
2017-09-23 01:23 gtfo: so its kind of a lot different
2017-09-23 01:23 David-: that was because of my tendency to map with low effort
2017-09-23 01:23 gtfo: actually
2017-09-23 01:23 gtfo: even the high pitched sound is different
2017-09-23 01:23 David-: suggestion maybe?
2017-09-23 01:23 gtfo: 00:30:784 - here is the pitch
2017-09-23 01:23 gtfo: 00:33:682 - here is the pitch
2017-09-23 01:24 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGuXz.png
2017-09-23 01:24 gtfo: or go the upper way but then you need to fix more stuf f i guees
2017-09-23 01:24 gtfo: 00:38:625 (1,4) - well... just so you think about it again ye..
2017-09-23 01:25 gtfo: you want that overlap the way it is ye?
2017-09-23 01:25 gtfo: 00:44:080 - recommend a 1/2 slider
2017-09-23 01:26 David-: removed overlap
2017-09-23 01:26 David-: that literally is a 1/2 slider
2017-09-23 01:26 David-: 00:44:080 (1) - you blind?
2017-09-23 01:26 gtfo: 00:44:080 - https://puu.sh/xGv4b.pngrecommend like that
2017-09-23 01:26 gtfo: eh i mean 1/1 sorry my bad
2017-09-23 01:27 gtfo: it sounds way better that way
2017-09-23 01:27 gtfo: you dont have a voice mid slider feels wrong
2017-09-23 01:27 gtfo: 00:44:762 -
2017-09-23 01:28 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGv7c.png 00:48:341 - still feels under mapped why dont you try something like this
2017-09-23 01:28 gtfo: or 1/2 sliders... nah, will think about it
2017-09-23 01:29 David-: I am still ok with it
2017-09-23 01:29 gtfo: 00:52:944 - kind of very boring why dont you give it a slight curve like this? https://puu.sh/xGv9R.png
2017-09-23 01:29 David-: i dont like the edge but I thought of a curve too removed stream replaced with 1/3 repeats
2017-09-23 01:30 gtfo: theres also a shift in drums
2017-09-23 01:30 gtfo: so you might even do smoething like
2017-09-23 01:31 gtfo: ok this looks pretty bad the border doesnt help https://puu.sh/xGvdH.png
2017-09-23 01:31 gtfo: but you get the idea you can even change spacing
2017-09-23 01:31 gtfo: kinda leads into those ultra low spacing circles too
2017-09-23 01:32 gtfo: 01:01:466 (1) - id actualy put 2 circles
2017-09-23 01:32 gtfo: i suppose you wanted to emphasize the chords of the piano
2017-09-23 01:32 David-: yepo
2017-09-23 01:32 gtfo: 01:01:296 - but from here on those chords are ever 1/2 instead of every 1/1
2017-09-23 01:33 gtfo: 01:01:637 - a little bit weaker but i still think some circles would emphasize it better
2017-09-23 01:33 David-: I'm still for the slider
2017-09-23 01:35 gtfo: 01:02:319 (1) - i still heavily dislike this
2017-09-23 01:35 gtfo: https://puu.sh/xGvmb.png something like this is visually way more appealing
2017-09-23 01:35 David-: no I'm really fond of my solution lol
2017-09-23 01:35 David-: how is that more appealing
2017-09-23 01:35 gtfo: 01:04:194 (5,1) - could go for a perfect stack
2017-09-23 01:36 gtfo: 01:07:262 - highest
2017-09-23 01:36 David-: perfect stack?
2017-09-23 01:36 gtfo: 01:07:432 - same as 01:07:603 - both a bit lower in pitch
2017-09-23 01:36 David-: is that like optimizing stacks myself?
2017-09-23 01:37 gtfo: 01:07:773 - 01:07:944 - same as above but a pitch lower
2017-09-23 01:37 gtfo: 01:08:114 - 01:08:284 - same
2017-09-23 01:37 gtfo: 01:08:455 - last pitch alone again
2017-09-23 01:37 gtfo: you see
2017-09-23 01:37 gtfo: theres not even a stream
2017-09-23 01:38 gtfo: i dont think triangles fit the voice nor the piano well
2017-09-23 01:38 David-: i know that it doesnt emphasize the music well but it fits so good imo lol
2017-09-23 01:38 gtfo: also just put the stacking up and make it a regular stack
2017-09-23 01:38 gtfo: well the stream is blattantly overmapped but it emphasizes the downbeat so i guess its ok
2017-09-23 01:39 gtfo: 01:05:046 (1) - ctrl g
2017-09-23 01:39 gtfo: put heads together with01:04:194 (5) -
2017-09-23 01:39 David-: what
2017-09-23 01:39 gtfo: 01:05:046 (1) - ctrl g again
2017-09-23 01:39 gtfo: there you go now you have a perfect stack
2017-09-23 01:39 David-: DUDE FLOW
2017-09-23 01:39 David-: HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE IT
2017-09-23 01:40 gtfo: what about flow?
2017-09-23 01:40 gtfo: i did not change the pattern at all
2017-09-23 01:40 gtfo: please wait till i finish and try understanding before you start shouting
2017-09-23 01:40 David-: (I just really like that pattern)
2017-09-23 01:40 gtfo: 01:09:307 (4,2) - same with this
2017-09-23 01:40 David-: (instant triggered)
2017-09-23 01:40 gtfo: you dont have to do it
2017-09-23 01:40 gtfo: but I'd do it
2017-09-23 01:41 gtfo: simply cuz I like my stuff perfect
2017-09-23 01:41 David-: why does osu even stack weirdly when tail is stacked
2017-09-23 01:41 David-: did it lol
2017-09-23 01:41 gtfo: 01:13:654 - stream could start here but doesnt have to i guess
2017-09-23 01:41 gtfo: 01:14:080 (1,2,3,4) - square seems pretty fucked tbh
2017-09-23 01:41 David-: it should but it'd kill my pattern
2017-09-23 01:42 gtfo: if its not supposed to be a square make it clearer if its supposed to be a square... make it cleaner perfect square looks kinda weird actually
2017-09-23 01:42 David-: xd ok
2017-09-23 01:42 gtfo: 01:19:194 (4,1) - normal stack please
2017-09-23 01:42 gtfo: 01:19:875 (2,1) - same both fixed
2017-09-23 01:42 gtfo: 01:21:239 (2,1) - ...
2017-09-23 01:42 David-: le fived
2017-09-23 01:43 David-: ofc it stacks now
2017-09-23 01:43 gtfo: 01:21:921 (2,1,2,3) - kind of awkward movement
2017-09-23 01:43 gtfo: 01:24:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-09-23 01:43 gtfo: stil a bit anticlimatic to me
2017-09-23 01:43 gtfo: 01:25:841 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - especially this
2017-09-23 01:44 gtfo: could even be some 1/4 sliders
2017-09-23 01:44 gtfo: due to intense drums
2017-09-23 01:44 gtfo: but atleast the spacing should be bigger i mean
2017-09-23 01:44 gtfo: 01:24:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - this isless intense but gets bigger spacing
2017-09-23 01:44 gtfo: 01:27:716 (3) - dont see the need for this circle
2017-09-23 01:44 David-: the voice is like "ta ha"
2017-09-23 01:45 David-: i couldnt hear it myself unless i did 50%
2017-09-23 01:45 gtfo: 01:27:674 - especially cuz the guitar is earlier
2017-09-23 01:45 gtfo: its around there
2017-09-23 01:45 gtfo: so it just get a single slider
2017-09-23 01:45 gtfo: well even better so you can emphasize voice and guitar with a single spinner
2017-09-23 01:45 gtfo: how convienient convenient but still not good enough ¯\_ツ_/¯