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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 4:42:42 PM

Artist: SID
Title: Rain
Source: 鋼の錬金術師 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST
Tags: pkhg gaia fma
BPM: 95
Filesize: 23375kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:

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pkhg mvp
kagetsu pvm
Last edited by Milan- on , edited 8 times in total.
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Earned 2 kudosu.
insane (cool diff btw)
00:10:825 (3) - since there isn't really a sound to support this, I think there is a better way of emphasizing 00:10:983 (4) - without additive rhythm, maybe try ctrl j slider and move it somewhere so it helps familiarize the player with the interesting movement concepts you use in your chorus
00:19:983 - the sounds here sound more like 1/6 to me, but they are unsnapped :(
00:26:772 - there is a sound here you can make clickable :D
00:33:562 (2,3,4,5,6) - cool
00:46:825 (6,7) - this contradicts what you do normally (the inverted movement for sliders thing) but I like how it works and how it contrasts so instead of changing just this one to match the others, I think you should change the others to match this one (i will link)
00:52:193 (9) - to match the previous one, as I suggested, you would need to ctrl g this
01:07:035 (6,7) - to match the previous ones you would have to make this more circular too
01:12:088 (8,9) - this is the other one
01:22:193 (3,4,5) - I think you should change these up to match the previous ones at 01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) - because right now 01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) - works by forcing the player to invert their motions each time, where as 01:22:193 (3,4,5) - is much more of a smoother transition between them in one direction.

package's insane
00:02:930 - strange to leave out this note when you map others like 00:05:456 (3) - 00:08:456 (2) - 00:10:509 (5) - right after it
01:23:140 (5) - it would make more sense if you nc'd this since your combo system emphasizes downbeats and phrase separations and this note is like a final note thing :D

gaia's hard
00:03:877 (4) - 00:08:930 (4) - how come these are the only two sliders emphasized like this, also the 2 sv changes really back to back are suck for hard players. (1.00->.8 ->1.00)2x
00:07:035 (5) - 00:14:456 (5) - this is the calm section and you map this over almost inaudible music because?
00:19:904 (6) - this is kind of :( because before and after this you have stacks of 1/2 so its likely hard players will misread this
00:42:088 - aaaa stop changing the sv so much :(
01:22:193 (6,7,8) - the rhythm here is 1/3 based not 1/4 like 01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) -

normal
01:02:299 (4) - I would do something like 00:59:772 (5,6) - to better emphasize the vocals and drums at this part
otherwise :D
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_83 wrote:
package's insane bor
00:02:930 - strange to leave out this note when you map others like 00:05:456 (3) - 00:08:456 (2) - 00:10:509 (5) - right after it removed these 3 instead xd
01:23:140 (5) - it would make more sense if you nc'd this since your combo system emphasizes downbeats and phrase separations and this note is like a final note thing :D no xd


thanK

Code:
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 41919
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
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[Metadata]
Title:Rain
TitleUnicode:Rain
Artist:SID
ArtistUnicode:SID
Creator:Milan-
Version:pkhg's Insane
Source:Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Tags:pkhg gaia fma
BeatmapID:1393392
BeatmapSetID:655894

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8.6
SliderMultiplier:0.8
SliderTickRate:1

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00:29:772 (5) - mute slider end pls
00:33:562 (2) - unstack slightly like 00:34:193 (5,6) - maybe?
00:40:035 - you follow vocals previously so i would like that sound to be mapped tbh
00:44:141 (6,7) - don't u think that spacing is pretty huge try putting it x274 y270 instead?
00:47:773 (1,3) - ugly overlap
00:50:456 (2) - would prefer this to be spaced rather than a linear jump
00:54:246 (6) - clap
01:04:351 (6,7) - spacing aaaaaaaaa
01:07:983 (1,3) - again that overlap


pkhg
00:17:299 - map this?
00:19:825 - why you skip vocals like that ?
01:09:088 (3) - finish this on downbeat to not skip kick
01:23:140 (5) - nc


Gaia
00:06:404 (4,1) - try avoid this overlap ? just move it up a bit x429 y201 should be enough
00:51:404 (4,6) - same as above try avoid overlap
01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) - please shorter ds for those 1/3 your spacing is higher than insane


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00:17:299 - map this? no lol
00:19:825 - why you skip vocals like that ? why not
01:09:088 (3) - finish this on downbeat to not skip kick vocals
01:23:140 (5) - nc no lol
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insane (cool diff btw)
00:10:825 (3) - since there isn't really a sound to support this, I think there is a better way of emphasizing 00:10:983 (4) - without additive rhythm, maybe try ctrl j slider and move it somewhere so it helps familiarize the player with the interesting movement concepts you use in your chorus tjhe additve rhythm is the same rhythm i do the from the beginning, moved (4) more away tho
00:19:983 - the sounds here sound more like 1/6 to me, but they are unsnapped :( 1/4 is the closest i think xd
00:26:772 - there is a sound here you can make clickable :D the same sound repeats to 00:26:930 - aswell but i also ignored it xd i just mapped to the toms on that one
00:33:562 (2,3,4,5,6) - cool w
00:46:825 (6,7) - this contradicts what you do normally (the inverted movement for sliders thing) but I like how it works and how it contrasts so instead of changing just this one to match the others, I think you should change the others to match this one (i will link)
00:52:193 (9) - to match the previous one, as I suggested, you would need to ctrl g this
01:07:035 (6,7) - to match the previous ones you would have to make this more circular too
01:12:088 (8,9) - this is the other one All of these are based on 4/4 metronome tbh. patterns like 00:51:877 (8,9) - changed a bit but yet keep the not so breaking flow like the rest of the chorus cuz the buildup in the drums that's right before that adds intensity in the verse. the only pattern that shoul dbe similar is 01:07:035 (6,7) - which on my eyes is, just that sliders' shapes are curved in the opposite direction but the idea is the same
01:22:193 (3,4,5) - I think you should change these up to match the previous ones at 01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) - because right now 01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) - works by forcing the player to invert their motions each time, where as 01:22:193 (3,4,5) - is much more of a smoother transition between them in one direction. did the thing

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01:02:299 (4) - I would do something like 00:59:772 (5,6) - to better emphasize the vocals and drums at this part but 1/3 is a bit harsh i think for the lowest diff xd
otherwise :D


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Insane
00:29:772 (5) - mute slider end pls ok
00:33:562 (2) - unstack slightly like 00:34:193 (5,6) - maybe? that's ugly xd
00:40:035 - you follow vocals previously so i would like that sound to be mapped tbh but im mapping drums
00:44:141 (6,7) - don't u think that spacing is pretty huge try putting it x274 y270 instead? whole map is huge
00:47:773 (1,3) - ugly overlap ur ugly kkj
00:50:456 (2) - would prefer this to be spaced rather than a linear jump wanted to do contrast with the sliders jumps
00:54:246 (6) - clap yes
01:04:351 (6,7) - spacing aaaaaaaaa sa
01:07:983 (1,3) - again that overlap me


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  • you don't need widescreen support in all diffs i think





that's all, clean mapset ~

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(The mapset is well done, I still don't have enough knowledge to give many suggestions, apologizes for this)


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  • Why only pkhg's diff has Kiai?


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Insane

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m4m~

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  • you don't need widescreen support in all diffs i think doesnt really matter xd




that's all, clean mapset ~

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(The mapset is well done, I still don't have enough knowledge to give many suggestions, apologizes for this)


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  • Why only pkhg's diff has Kiai? kiai would be too long, that's why i didnt add one


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00:03:877 (4) - 00:08:930 (4) - how come these are the only two sliders emphasized like this, also the 2 sv changes really back to back are suck for hard players. (1.00->.8 ->1.00)2x because guitar things and it's not even hard to play ...
00:07:035 (5) - 00:14:456 (5) - this is the calm section and you map this over almost inaudible music because? because i hear it
00:19:904 (6) - this is kind of :( because before and after this you have stacks of 1/2 so its likely hard players will misread this none of them were overlapped like this though, i doubt many people would misread this
00:42:088 - aaaa stop changing the sv so much :( no
01:22:193 (6,7,8) - the rhythm here is 1/3 based not 1/4 like 01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) -

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Gaia
00:06:404 (4,1) - try avoid this overlap ? just move it up a bit x429 y201 should be enough should be pretty obvious i like overlaps lol.
00:51:404 (4,6) - same as above try avoid overlap ^
01:01:667 (1,2,3,4) - please shorter ds for those 1/3 your spacing is higher than insane

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Minor but you could up pkhg's Insane's HP setting to 5 so it spreads better but I don't really care that much lol.

Insane
  • 00:12:877 (3) - I think these notes could be removed entirely. They don't really seem to be on anything and take away from the calmer feeling the beginning of the song has.

With the "kiai" (henceforth referred to as the kiai even though you didn't put any) as it is it seems a lot of things have extremely high spacing even in play taking into account slider leniency. I know we talked about this and I think you wanted a more heavy feeling in parts like 00:57:720. For that to work however, I think it's necessary to reduce some of the snappy movements that the kiai employs - most notably movements such as 00:54:246 (6,7,8) - as they are very similar in nature to movements such as 00:58:035 (4,1) - 00:58:983 (2,1) - 01:00:562 (2,1) - and so on. For the heavy feeling to take place there should be some sort of contrast and as it is the two movements are very similar. You could either make the kiai's movements flowier and less snappy or vice versa for the middle part. Whichever way you want to do it is fine since both ways would represent those sections appropriately.

I hope this is helpful somehow x.x

  • 01:02:299 (3,4) - It would be nice to do something different for these two since they're the same as 01:01:667 (1,2) - yet the vocals come in. It seems for the most part the map has been following vocals, so perhaps an increase of SV might work nicely. Other optional changes could be NCing or changing how the sliders are oriented with a couple of ctrl+g's.

Mostly it seems fine though, just concerned about how the kiai's concept sacrificing specific emphasis on notes for sectional emphasis and doesn't quite bring it across as effectively due to that lack of contrast I mentioned.

pkhg's Insane
  • 00:05:772 (3) - This being the only not stacked object seems a bit off when referencing patterns such as 00:08:930 (3,4) - 00:00:720 (1,2,1,2) - The vocal itself is only a slightly longer note than the other sliders and I don't think breaking concept here for that is really necessary. Seems like overemphasis to me. x.x

    It would also contrast nicely with the next section where you break off a bit from the stacking and move more to slider overlaps.
  • 00:58:825 (1) - It would also be nice if these were emphasized a bit more. There's a noticeable sound here that gets emphasized yet the pattern doesn't change at all. Not sure how to provide a fix to this but if you play around with it I think you can figure something out. All I could think of was removing it from the pattern and just having it stand out on the side or something or killing movement like this https://i.imgur.com/NdJ1HwP.png but not sure about that one lol.
  • 01:02:299 (3,4) - Same thing as Insane, would be nice to have some sort of indicator the vocals enter here. It's an easier fix here since simply ctrl+g'ing 3 and 4 would fix that.
  • 01:18:562 (1,2,3,4,1) - Not sure why now the guitar sounds are being mapped when they were ignored during 00:58:351 (1,2,1,2) - ? Seems a little inconsistent since both sections have the same guitar sound. Since the guitar is mapped here and the snare is getting the emphasis from the NC if you mapped the guitar for the earlier point at 00:58:825 (1) - you could avoid the emphasized note and shift rather to guitar if you wanted to.

Gaia's Hard
  • 00:07:035 (5) - Sounds a little out of place. True that it could possibly be mapping the background clutter-type sound, but I find that extending 00:06:404 (4) - to be a 1/1 slider works a lot nicer and avoids unneeded density in the calm intro part. It would also be nice since if left as is 00:12:088 (5) - is the same rhythm basically yet maps to a vocal later, so loses its uniqueness with the previous slider being mapped to nearly nothing.
  • 00:14:456 (5) - This and similar notes could be removed for the same reasons: reducing density and providing contrast to where notes actually appear.
  • 00:17:930 (2,3) - Odd that you decided to add 2 to capture the vocal yet skip the vocal during 3 on 00:18:404. If you wanted to capture the vocals it would make sense to capture all of it perhaps, so shortening 3 to end on the white rather than red would be optimal in doing so.
  • 00:20:930 - Would rather this be clickable since it's the start of the guitar/bass pattern here. Doesn't really sit too well not clicking the beginning note but clicking most notes after. Shortening 00:19:983 (1) - to the white tick before would leave a nice airy gap to stack another circle on top or to make a 1/2 slider starting on 00:20:930 -
  • 00:56:456 (4) - This slider seems very out of place as the only sharp angled slider in the entire kiai section. I would probably suggest making it either curved or straight to fit in better structurally with the rest of the sliders.

Normal
  • 00:32:614 (1,1,2) - Could be a bit confusing for the lowest diff. If there were an Easy beneath this maybe but as it is I don't think this is readable enough. I would suggest unstacking these. It's especially confusing I think, that there is another stack beneath the 1,1 stack that's of a different snap. If it were just a regular stack it would be fine but due to the stack underneath it I think it might cause problems for some players.
I hope the comments on Insane aren't a bunch of nonsense but I was never that good at really explaining what I mean eeeee :?

Anyways good luck!
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pkhg's Insane
  • 00:05:772 (3) - This being the only not stacked object seems a bit off when referencing patterns such as 00:08:930 (3,4) - 00:00:720 (1,2,1,2) - The vocal itself is only a slightly longer note than the other sliders and I don't think breaking concept here for that is really necessary. Seems like overemphasis to me. x.x forgot to fix that lo

    It would also contrast nicely with the next section where you break off a bit from the stacking and move more to slider overlaps.
  • 00:58:825 (1) - It would also be nice if these were emphasized a bit more. There's a noticeable sound here that gets emphasized yet the pattern doesn't change at all. Not sure how to provide a fix to this but if you play around with it I think you can figure something out. All I could think of was removing it from the pattern and just having it stand out on the side or something or killing movement like this https://i.imgur.com/NdJ1HwP.png but not sure about that one lol. i dont think its that necessary
  • 01:02:299 (3,4) - Same thing as Insane, would be nice to have some sort of indicator the vocals enter here. It's an easier fix here since simply ctrl+g'ing 3 and 4 would fix that. ^
  • 01:18:562 (1,2,3,4,1) - Not sure why now the guitar sounds are being mapped when they were ignored during 00:58:351 (1,2,1,2) - ? Seems a little inconsistent since both sections have the same guitar sound. Since the guitar is mapped here and the snare is getting the emphasis from the NC if you mapped the guitar for the earlier point at 00:58:825 (1) - you could avoid the emphasized note and shift rather to guitar if you wanted to. repetitive :(


Anyways good luck!


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Mir wrote:
Gaia's Hard
  • 00:07:035 (5) - Sounds a little out of place. True that it could possibly be mapping the background clutter-type sound, but I find that extending 00:06:404 (4) - to be a 1/1 slider works a lot nicer and avoids unneeded density in the calm intro part. It would also be nice since if left as is 00:12:088 (5) - is the same rhythm basically yet maps to a vocal later, so loses its uniqueness with the previous slider being mapped to nearly nothing. tbh im not following the vocals at all here, so im mapping to all the instrumentals i hear- which in this case is the guitar(i think) and i feel it's quite empty without it
  • 00:14:456 (5) - This and similar notes could be removed for the same reasons: reducing density and providing contrast to where notes actually appear. ^
  • 00:17:930 (2,3) - Odd that you decided to add 2 to capture the vocal yet skip the vocal during 3 on 00:18:404. If you wanted to capture the vocals it would make sense to capture all of it perhaps, so shortening 3 to end on the white rather than red would be optimal in doing so.
  • 00:20:930 - Would rather this be clickable since it's the start of the guitar/bass pattern here. Doesn't really sit too well not clicking the beginning note but clicking most notes after. Shortening 00:19:983 (1) - to the white tick before would leave a nice airy gap to stack another circle on top or to make a 1/2 slider starting on 00:20:930 - i'd much rather have the slider end on an audible note than for it to not. doing so also allows me to emphasize the held guitar note better too
  • 00:56:456 (4) - This slider seems very out of place as the only sharp angled slider in the entire kiai section. I would probably suggest making it either curved or straight to fit in better structurally with the rest of the sliders.

Anyways good luck!

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Minor but you could up pkhg's Insane's HP setting to 5 so it spreads better but I don't really care that much lol. pokemon did

Insane
  • 00:12:877 (3) - I think these notes could be removed entirely. They don't really seem to be on anything and take away from the calmer feeling the beginning of the song has. they go well with the change in the vocals, also the very beginning is already slow enough i think

With the "kiai" (henceforth referred to as the kiai even though you didn't put any) as it is it seems a lot of things have extremely high spacing even in play taking into account slider leniency. I know we talked about this and I think you wanted a more heavy feeling in parts like 00:57:720. For that to work however, I think it's necessary to reduce some of the snappy movements that the kiai employs - most notably movements such as 00:54:246 (6,7,8) - as they are very similar in nature to movements such as 00:58:035 (4,1) - 00:58:983 (2,1) - 01:00:562 (2,1) - and so on. For the heavy feeling to take place there should be some sort of contrast and as it is the two movements are very similar. You could either make the kiai's movements flowier and less snappy or vice versa for the middle part. Whichever way you want to do it is fine since both ways would represent those sections appropriately.

I hope this is helpful somehow x.x did something to the flow in the breakdown sections or however it's called

  • 01:02:299 (3,4) - It would be nice to do something different for these two since they're the same as 01:01:667 (1,2) - yet the vocals come in. It seems for the most part the map has been following vocals, so perhaps an increase of SV might work nicely. Other optional changes could be NCing or changing how the sliders are oriented with a couple of ctrl+g's. did somethingtoo

Mostly it seems fine though, just concerned about how the kiai's concept sacrificing specific emphasis on notes for sectional emphasis and doesn't quite bring it across as effectively due to that lack of contrast I mentioned.

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  • 00:32:614 (1,1,2) - Could be a bit confusing for the lowest diff. If there were an Easy beneath this maybe but as it is I don't think this is readable enough. I would suggest unstacking these. It's especially confusing I think, that there is another stack beneath the 1,1 stack that's of a different snap. If it were just a regular stack it would be fine but due to the stack underneath it I think it might cause problems for some players. okxd
I hope the comments on Insane aren't a bunch of nonsense but I was never that good at really explaining what I mean eeeee :? and i'm worse at explaining myself tehe

Anyways good luck!


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