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Tachibana Arisu (CV: Satou Amina) - in fact

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2018年8月23日 at 19:44:25

Artist: Tachibana Arisu (CV: Satou Amina)
Title: in fact
Source: アイドルマスターシンデレラガールズ
Tags: 佐藤亜美菜 satou amina the idolmaster idolm@ster cinderella girls Suzuki_1112 1112deng s_o_a_p
BPM: 82
Filesize: 6646kb
Play Time: 01:40
Difficulties Available:
  1. 1112's Hard (2.67 stars, 172 notes)
  2. Insane (3.84 stars, 225 notes)
  3. Normal (1.78 stars, 143 notes)
Download: Tachibana Arisu (CV: Satou Amina) - in fact
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#8

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Storyboard by Sun Rainbow:梦回2008のSB
Insane by me
1112's Hard by Suzuki_1112
Normal by me


Sun Rainbow wrote:

SB的故事
爱丽丝一开始想要闪闪发光,但是很迷茫,不知道怎么办才好,但是宝石们试图给予爱丽丝信心和力量,爱丽丝感受到了宝石给予的信心和力量,有勇气往前前进,并且终于散发出属于自己的光辉。这都能脑补出一套来我真棒(不)
ts8zs
Ts8zs' Easy
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Otosaka-Yu
Insane和天杀的主难度都nerf一下可能比较好些?
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Topic Starter
S o a p

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

Insane和天杀的主难度都nerf一下可能比较好些?
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劳模吗 做那么快。
我我我感觉insane还还还还好吧
ts8zs

IamKwaN wrote:

又是結城辰也

Unicode Title: in fact
Unicode Artist: 橘ありす(CV:佐藤亜美菜)
Romanised Artist: Tachibana Arisu (CV: Satou Amina)
Source: アイドルマスターシンデレラガールズ

References:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... -03-16.png
http://columbia.jp/idolmaster/COCC-17091.html
http://cinderella.idolmaster.jp/

或者你喜歡現在的artist也可,第二個網址寫的就是你現在的
source 建议添加 アイドルマスターシンデレラガールズ
tag 建议添加 idolmaster cinderella girls
nokd
Otosaka-Yu
对了,顺便可以的话把我的旧id也加上吧:1112deng
麻烦你啦;w;
CSAQ
來摸啦 :D
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*00:13:160~00:15:721的部分好像沒對到琴聲?聽起來會比較有明顯的延遲

[Ts8zs' Arisu]
*Ar有點太低了,至少拉到8.5如何?
00:05:843 (3,4,5,6) - 用成兩個slider看看? 比較有推進音樂的感覺,看起來也不會那麼鬆散
00:09:685 (4,5,6) - 順著3的flow擺比較順,現在這樣直接轉下有點不連續
00:15:996 (1,2,3) - 藍線開始有點難判斷xd 雖然這裡有音,但要不要考慮直接白線起拉滑條?
00:18:648 (5,6,1) - 怎麼突然跳開了,如果一定要的話我覺得從4開始就跳比較好,這裡聽起來是三個音一組
00:19:014 (1,2) - 這種3/4滑條的梗在這段只出現過一次,可以考慮換成和後面一樣1/2的節奏,或是在後面一個八拍再用一次3/4的梗會比較有系統性
00:26:880 (3) - ctrl+G?延續前面的flow繼續轉
00:36:575 (3,4,5) - 這裡看起來很像三個1/2的節奏,我覺得把4.5 ctrl+G做anti-jump比較好辨別,之後6就再拉遠離5一點
00:40:599 (7,8) - ctrl+G比較順 另外5看要不要加個NC
00:43:160 (6) - 擺太遠了 看不出來是1/2
00:44:441 (4,5) - 很像FFFantic那種老圖的梗xd,不過覺得用在這裡不太好,看是不是把5刪掉,如果要留的話00:46:636也要加一個circle
00:48:282 (1) - ctrl+G,後面的2也ctrl+G,感覺比較順~
00:51:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 這裡兩個兩個跳有點牽強了,我覺得像前面00:39:502 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)那種四個circle一組的梗會比較棒
00:53:221 (2,3) - 直接紅線拉一條slider就好了
00:54:136 (6) - 00:54:868尾的finish刪掉吧,有點突兀
00:58:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 你前面一段的節奏比較密,這裡會變太疏,可以補滿節奏大概像這樣? http://puu.sh/xibTf/b49dc2e601.jpg
01:01:331 (1,2,3) - 我覺得不用跟那個連音xd 起點比較難打,直接白線拉滑條就很好了
01:04:258 (1,2,3) - ^ ,然後滑條3要停在紅線上
01:05:660 (4,5) - 這個應該要從01:05:477開始擺,滑條5再結束在01:06:209就好
01:10:142 (1,2) - 前面沒出現過這個節奏,刪掉1比較好,如果覺得這段節奏太疏,把01:09:502 (2,3)都換成滑條就不錯了
01:11:697 (1) - 尾怎麼在藍線上了,停在01:11:880,01:12:063再加一個circle會比較好,也比較有跟到vocal
01:16:453 (2) - 擺01:16:362吧
01:18:160 (2,3,4) - 比較難判斷,要補節奏的話01:18:099開始放三個1/4會比較好
01:25:599 (3) - 拉長一個折返,01:26:148沒跟到
01:32:459 (1) - 藍線起滿奇怪的,從01:32:185拉個3/4折返滑條看看,前面的01:31:819 (2)就改成1/2
01:33:648 (1,2) - ^,折返滑條比較OK
01:34:929 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 這個跳看起來比較亂,如果01:35:112 (2,3,4,5)是一個交叉跳的話,01:35:843 (6,7,8,9) 也擺成交叉跳會比較有系統,現在做01:35:112 (2,3,4,5,6,7)的梗節奏應該是擺不下的

[Insane]
00:13:160 (1,1,1,1) - 每個slider都ctrl+G,變成往外展開的樣子怎麼樣,我覺得這樣接00:12:429 (2,3,4)會比較順~
00:19:014 (1,2) - 我覺得這裡1用1/2就很OK了
*00:19:014~00:29:990的clap我覺得有點太多了,24clap應該比較剛好
00:21:575 (4,5) - ctrl+G看看?
00:29:258 (1,2) - 藍線上的音量可以調低試試,我覺得聽起來比較好
00:35:112 (1) - 和前面00:33:648 (3,4)一樣一個滑條+圈吧,保持一致
00:37:490 (1,2) - 這個NC比較奇怪,我覺得1是前面一段的,2是後面一段的,像這樣:http://puu.sh/xid4e/502377ba80.jpg
00:45:356 (2) - 這個也拉成滑條吧?停在00:46:087
00:53:039 (1,2,3) - 2,3我覺得可以刪掉,像前面00:41:332 (7)你就沒跟了,而且我覺得不跟那個細語的話節奏密度也會比較一致~
01:00:173 (6) - 我覺得這個可以拉比較靠近5一點
01:22:856 (3) - 這個節奏要放在01:23:038,這樣你的停頓點才會一致
01:32:459 (1) - 藍線起比較奇怪,我覺得要跟這個節奏的話,把01:31:819 (3)停在紅線上,在01:32:185拉一個3/4折返滑條會比較好
01:33:648 (1) - 這個也要跟著改3/4折返滑條

[1112's Hard]
00:43:892 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這段每個間距都不一樣,不過我覺得這裡應該沒有太多音樂強度的變化,要不要把兩個兩個的間距一致?
01:34:197 (2) - 應該是可以刪掉,或是在01:32:185 (1,2)中間塞一個circle,這兩段節奏會比較一致
01:36:392 (x) - 加個圈? 這裡沒跟到

很棒的diff xd

[Normal]
很棒的diff,看起來沒問題^ ^

[Ts8zs' Easy]
01:14:990 (5,1) - 這個太近了吧xd

節奏聽起來應該沒問題,不過我不知道對新手來說,打點是不是在白線上比較好跟,這裡有滿多紅線起的slider~

-

祝起飛順利 :)
Otosaka-Yu

CSAQ wrote:

來摸啦 :D

[1112's Hard]
00:43:892 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這段每個間距都不一樣,不過我覺得這裡應該沒有太多音樂強度的變化,要不要把兩個兩個的間距一致?
01:34:197 (2) - 應該是可以刪掉,或是在01:32:185 (1,2)中間塞一個circle,這兩段節奏會比較一致
01:36:392 (x) - 加個圈? 這裡沒跟到

很棒的diff xd 謝謝xd

祝起飛順利 :)
all fixed, thank you for mod~
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34,152,54502,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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188,60,58160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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81,104,62734,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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435,97,69502,2,0,P|452:154|428:259,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
397,300,70051,1,0,0:0:0:0:
310,310,70234,6,0,B|260:301|231:344|231:344|187:374|127:353|118:296,1,210,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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176,202,71148,2,0,L|184:109,1,70
116,99,71514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
61,150,71697,6,0,P|118:171|190:115,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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413,97,72795,1,0,0:0:0:0:
459,168,72977,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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287,357,73709,1,0,0:0:0:0:
210,358,73892,2,0,L|56:350,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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208,280,75173,1,0,0:0:0:0:
285,281,75356,2,0,L|424:273,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,216,75904,1,0,0:0:0:0:
508,134,76087,6,0,B|456:125|456:125|424:133|424:133|346:121,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,68,76636,1,0,0:0:0:0:
210,82,76819,2,0,L|226:232,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,286,77368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
83,306,77551,6,0,P|53:246|70:154,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,73,78282,1,8,0:0:0:0:
210,82,78465,2,0,B|283:97|283:97|373:67,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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309,176,81941,5,2,0:0:0:0:
387,139,82124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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488,292,82673,2,0,L|322:283,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,198,83404,5,2,0:0:0:0:
227,271,83587,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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30,363,84136,2,0,P|14:303|32:202,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
67,147,84685,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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471,275,85599,2,0,L|331:282,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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348,104,89807,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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151,347,90721,5,2,0:0:0:0:
6,179,91453,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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277,18,92734,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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394,252,93465,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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51,168,95112,6,0,L|141:175,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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299,205,95843,2,0,P|360:172|438:160,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
484,222,96392,1,8,0:0:0:0:
490,319,96575,6,0,P|428:285|360:273,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,304,97124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
226,353,97307,2,0,L|84:346,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
34,251,97856,1,2,0:0:0:0:
58,244,97947,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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Crystal
as requested

[ts8zs]
音效很平淡 适度添加finish
00:02:916 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 起手散点跳? 这几乎是整张图跳幅度最大的 (还有00:17:916 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ) 然而这里并没有什么值得这样跳的音
00:23:953 (3) - 想不出任何这里用折返的理由 折返尾加上00:24:502 (4) - 是一组钢琴音 为什么要分割开呢
00:36:575 (3,4,5,6) - ??? 345这组视觉体验极差 而且时间间隔又不等 建议重新排版 (或者简单点的45 ctrl+g再调整6 毕竟456这个等间距本身也没什么意义)
00:40:965 (1,2,3,4,5) - 2到3可能会读成1/2 4到5肯定会读成1/2 考虑扩大45的间距 2到3可以试试anti-jump啥的
00:43:343 (7) - 这组音里最强的你给在滑条尾...
00:45:173 (5) - 这里有任何音吗
00:51:392 (2,3,4) - 想做三角的话边长请统一 这样有点难看
00:51:575 (3,4,5,6) - weird flow 钝角跳之后的锐角小间距比较奇怪可以考虑扩大间距或者改一下4到5的走向
01:07:307 (1) - 滑条头finish 还有其他一些小节开头都最好加上
01:10:142 (1) - ?? 没有音
01:11:697 (1) - 不如拉一个折返 本身3/4而之后的白线没note就会很奇怪 而且正好01:12:246 (2) - 的滑条尾是白线可以给个圈
01:16:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这是什么间距 完全看不懂.. 如果刻意用等空间间距而不等时间间距的梗至少bgm里应该有表征可以这样做的明显的理由 比如旋律的重复或者歌词的重复 这里怎么看只是普通的1/2转3/4而并没有明显的旋律或歌词的重复
01:25:599 (3) - 3/4参见上面
01:27:795 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - 这又是什么间距 完全完全看不懂.. 因为几个3/4点上的人声分别成组 所以应该组内(3/4间隔note)应该间距比较小 而分隔两组之间的(1/2间距note)间距应该比较大 这里是完全看不懂的乱切...
01:32:459 (1) - 你觉得这个蓝线起手很好打么.. 做tricky也不是这么做的啊.. 考虑和前面滑条尾连着一个3/4折返
01:33:648 (1,2,3) - .... 参见01:16:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这条
01:34:929 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ... 01:35:843 (6) - 这个错开来除了让人以为你的三角摆歪了没有任何其他效果

总结一下这个图structure比较散 时不时冒出来个奇怪的间距设定 还有一些很莫名的蓝线overmap(1/8的东西没有全部查 看了一个01:18:160 (2,3,4) - 感觉并没有1/8的音 只有在01:18:160这个时间点上一个不太会描述的音效 所以1/8之类的东西也得查查) 这些问题加起来就不能创造稳定的游戏体验 不好好修正一下估计很难rank 有几个bn的mu并不能钦定你的图rank不是
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CSAQ wrote:

來摸啦 :D
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*00:13:160~00:15:721的部分好像沒對到琴聲?聽起來會比較有明顯的延遲ummmmmm对哦。怎么办..陷入了瓶颈....orz


[Insane]
00:13:160 (1,1,1,1) - 每個slider都ctrl+G,變成往外展開的樣子怎麼樣,我覺得這樣接00:12:429 (2,3,4)會比較順~
00:19:014 (1,2) - 我覺得這裡1用1/2就很OK了
*00:19:014~00:29:990的clap我覺得有點太多了,24clap應該比較剛好24感觉有点节奏对不上
00:21:575 (4,5) - ctrl+G看看?
00:29:258 (1,2) - 藍線上的音量可以調低試試,我覺得聽起來比較好
00:35:112 (1) - 和前面00:33:648 (3,4)一樣一個滑條+圈吧,保持一致ummm这个我再观望观望
00:37:490 (1,2) - 這個NC比較奇怪,我覺得1是前面一段的,2是後面一段的,像這樣:http://puu.sh/xid4e/502377ba80.jpg
00:45:356 (2) - 這個也拉成滑條吧?停在00:46:087
00:53:039 (1,2,3) - 2,3我覺得可以刪掉,像前面00:41:332 (7)你就沒跟了,而且我覺得不跟那個細語的話節奏密度也會比較一致~跟一下钢琴声啦
01:00:173 (6) - 我覺得這個可以拉比較靠近5一點
01:22:856 (3) - 這個節奏要放在01:23:038,這樣你的停頓點才會一致
01:32:459 (1) - 藍線起比較奇怪,我覺得要跟這個節奏的話,把01:31:819 (3)停在紅線上,在01:32:185拉一個3/4折返滑條會比較好
01:33:648 (1) - 這個也要跟著改3/4折返滑條


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很棒的diff,看起來沒問題^ ^蟹蟹!



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祝起飛順利 :)
良心论文摸呜呜呜呜,谢谢
ts8zs

Crystal wrote:

as requested
有几个bn的mu并不能钦定你的图rank不是 这句话我不能赞同更多 毕竟你看我的rank图数量。。。
我目前怀疑我的200块耳机是我们三个之中最好的。。。
other advises will be fixing in a week
Crystal

ts8zs wrote:

Crystal wrote:

as requested
有几个bn的mu并不能钦定你的图rank不是 这句话我不能赞同更多 毕竟你看我的rank图数量。。。
我目前怀疑我的200块耳机是我们三个之中最好的。。。
other advises will be fixing in a week
音量开大一倍 听到了你说的那些"音" 01:10:142 (1) - 然而这个依然是没有 如果是地摊耳机太差的话 01:10:051 - 这边更明显的为什么不跟呢? 同理更明显你却忽略的还有01:12:063 - (人声的"e") 00:20:386 - 00:21:484 - 00:24:045 - 00:26:240 - 01:25:965
00:45:173 (5) - 还有类似于这样的即使要跟也考虑降低音量 因为实在是不明显
01:30:356 (2,3,4,5) - 这里很奇怪 听到是三个音而且最后一个不是严格snap在白线上 need further confirmation

还望珍重

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EDIT: 懒得新开楼层占用空间 于是就在这层说

ts8zs wrote:

你要是说根据00:45:173 (5) - 我漏了00:46:636 - 我就比较服
我也没说不接受改动啊,但那也不能瞎改是吧。
这里我是故意没有说的 因为这里比00:45:173 - 此处更弱, 此处我已经不认为有必要押 那么抱着"这里轻到你都不愿意押那我何必要指出"的心态我没有再提这个
再者 00:20:386 - 00:21:484 - 00:24:045 - 00:26:240 - 01:25:965 这些地方我提出来是为了探讨形如01:18:160 (2,3,4) - 这样的你说的"我没听出来而实际上有音"的地方是否需要跟进 段落不同在这里恐怕不能成为理由 因为这里你"跟了"的和"没跟"的不是人声和乐器的差距 也不是钢琴和鼓的差距 这样的差距在跟时确实应当有所取舍 可是这恐怕不适合现在这个例子. 即使一个在副歌一个不在 不一致仍然会导致awkward feelings 既然这样为何不统一? 如果退一步讲 假如我完全接受你对于"段落"的理由(当然根据之前所说我并不认同) 01:10:051 - 就算是这里 也是副歌部分 也是那个之后3连跟的"tick"声(或是说类似) 为什么这个就不跟呢? 另外你说的"注意钢琴"我放慢25%听了许多遍, 确实有颤音 (然而要么是从白线起往后延一段距离或者是白线前1/8甚至更短的距离处 这里怎么跟出来都会太刻板太牵强) 可是在蓝线处确确实实是没有 不信你可以再听听
至于那个vocal 确实可以说是在蓝线起的 然而放25%听是可以听出来在蓝线到白线有渐进的过程并且在白线处为最高点 所以我更倾向于在白线处补一个note (这是在如果你认为蓝线一定要跟的话 我并没有说蓝线不跟)
三者 我并没有臆断你不会有改动 所以你一是不必反复强调你之后会改别的 二是不应臆断我因为你说的什么什么话刻意找错 我上面所说的一切东西都是在感受了强烈的违和感之后才写下的. 我不应认为这些是客观的不好,然而若没有合理的解释,这样的"艺术品"人也看不懂不是? "瞎改",又何出此言?

最后, 看下insane又如何呢? 我上面提到的间距问题和跟音的问题那里都没有 音效也更饱满充实 就算有不称心意之处也是后话 和我上面说的这些没什么必然的关系 你说呢?
ts8zs

Crystal wrote:

ts8zs wrote:

other advises will be fixing in a week
音量开大一倍 听到了你说的那些"音" 01:10:142 (1) - 然而这个依然是没有 注意钢琴
如果是地摊耳机太差的话 01:10:051 - 这边更明显的为什么不跟呢? 这都不是同一个段落
同理更明显你却忽略的还有01:12:063 - (人声的"e") 这里vocal蓝线起
00:20:386 - 00:21:484 - 00:24:045 - 00:26:240 - 01:25:965 这都不是同一个段落了我为什么要一样的跟法。。。
00:45:173 (5) - 还有类似于这样的即使要跟也考虑降低音量 因为实在是不明显 我觉得你说的这个很有道理
01:30:356 (2,3,4,5) - 这里很奇怪 听到是三个音而且最后一个不是严格snap在白线上 need further confirmation 这里钢琴只有三声 最后那一声不是钢琴(今天在网吧可能耳机不太好
还望珍重
你要是说根据00:45:173 (5) - 我漏了00:46:636 - 我就比较服
我也没说不接受改动啊,但那也不能瞎改是吧。

Crystal wrote:

最后, 看下insane又如何呢? 我上面提到的间距问题和跟音的问题那里都没有 音效也更饱满充实 就算有不称心意之处也是后话 和我上面说的这些没什么必然的关系 你说呢?
我也没说有什么关系,就是希望你能帮助提升一下目前这个insane的水平。
不过现在不在意了,反正删diff了。飞了也和我没什么关系。

Crystal wrote:

这里我是故意没有说的 因为这里比00:45:173 - 此处更弱, 此处我已经不认为有必要押 那么抱着"这里轻到你都不愿意押那我何必要指出"的心态我没有再提这个
01:10:051 - 就算是这里 也是副歌部分 也是那个之后3连跟的"tick"声(或是说类似) 为什么这个就不跟呢? 另外你说的"注意钢琴"我放慢25%听了许多遍, 确实有颤音 (然而要么是从白线起往后延一段距离或者是白线前1/8甚至更短的距离处 这里怎么跟出来都会太刻板太牵强) 可是在蓝线处确确实实是没有 不信你可以再听听
至于那个vocal 确实可以说是在蓝线起的 然而放25%听是可以听出来在蓝线到白线有渐进的过程并且在白线处为最高点 所以我更倾向于在白线处补一个note (这是在如果你认为蓝线一定要跟的话 我并没有说蓝线不跟)
三者 我并没有臆断你不会有改动 所以你一是不必反复强调你之后会改别的 二是不应臆断我因为你说的什么什么话刻意找错 我上面所说的一切东西都是在感受了强烈的违和感之后才写下的. 我不应认为这些是客观的不好,然而若没有合理的解释 我还没开始改摸我解释什么。 ,这样的"艺术品"人也看不懂不是? "瞎改",又何出此言?你看看你最开始写的这些摸错的地方: 这里有任何音吗 ?? 没有音 还有一些很莫名的蓝线overmap 这些话再结合下 有几个bn的mu并不能钦定你的图rank不是 再理解一下自己说了什么。
Topic Starter
S o a p
我觉得你还是先学会做人再来作图比较好
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11:54 S o a p: 让你
11:54 S o a p: 不对
11:54 S o a p: 让我们,nerf一下
11:54 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 我拒绝
11:54 ts8zs: 这是我做这图的目的
11:54 S o a p: =-=|||
11:54 S o a p: 啥目的
11:54 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 低速跳图
11:55 S o a p: bn:喵喵喵?
11:55 S o a p: 会不会被找麻烦啊
11:55 ts8zs: 不会
11:55 S o a p: 小可怜.jpg
11:55 ts8zs: 质量够 不违反rc
11:55 ts8zs: 凭什么找麻烦
11:57 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_要是有bn找我diff麻烦 我就找人帮你飞。。。
11:58 S o a p: 泡不好找,瑟瑟发抖
11:58 S o a p: 找谁
11:58 S o a p: 你有大腿可以抱吗
11:58 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 诶我操我7个bnmu还找不到个泡了。。。
11:58 S o a p: e
11:58 S o a p: nb
11:58 S o a p: 那我找摸
11:59 S o a p: 您找泡
11:59 S o a p: 如何
11:59 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_请注意前面的谈话
12:00 S o a p: 主要我觉得太跳不是很合曲
12:00 S o a p: 不知道别人咋看
12:00 S o a p: 我先找几个摸
12:05 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_我摸的图比那个1112打的图都多。。。
12:05 ts8zs: 自己菜还让别人reduce difficulty
12:06 ts8zs: 现在真有趣。。。
12:09 S o a p: emmmmmmmm
12:13 S o a p: 我是守序善良啊
12:13 S o a p: 瑟瑟发抖
12:13 S o a p: 我先找几个摸看看好了
12:13 ts8zs: 你那图已经是混乱善良了
12:14 S o a p: ;w;|||
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12:28 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_还有如果你要做mapper我建议你改个名
12:28 S o a p: 咋了
12:29 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_你这个名字放在osu里面根本搜不到
12:29 ts8zs: 搜 s o a p 能剩下一堆
12:29 S o a p: 因为空格吗
12:29 ts8zs: 对_(:3」∠)_
12:30 S o a p: e
12:30 S o a p: 搜不到好
12:30 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_
12:30 *ts8zs is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1389087 Tachibana Arisu - in fact [Insane]]
12:31 ts8zs: 00:05:843 (1) - 你这作图风格我猜不透
12:31 ts8zs: 00:10:965 (2) - 这都为啥
12:31 S o a p: e
12:32 ts8zs: 00:23:953 (3,5) - 3尾和5 根本都不是一个音为什么叠一起
12:32 ts8zs: 00:19:380 (2,5) - 5 为什么不用2复制
12:32 ts8zs: 00:20:477 (1) - 为什么会是个折返
12:33 ts8zs: 00:32:185 (1,3) - 同样的歌曲走向为什么一个横一个竖
12:33 ts8zs: 为什么一个弧度大一个弧度小
12:33 ts8zs: 为什么一个在头 一个在尾
12:33 S o a p: 。。。
12:33 ts8zs: 这都他吗为什么啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:36:941 (3,1) - 这里为什么是个antiflow啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:42:795 (2,3) - 这里的角度差究竟是个啥意思啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:43:892 (1) - 这滑条为啥抖一下啊
12:35 ts8zs: 00:53:039 (1,2) - 这他吗又是为啥啊
12:35 S o a p: 我日
12:35 S o a p: 你要混kd?
12:35 ts8zs: 01:01:819 - 这里为什么又空出来了啊你不是跟vocal的吗
12:36 ts8zs: 混kd 你这图我看不下去好嘛
12:36 ts8zs: 我是为了能早飞好吗?
12:37 ts8zs: 你见过谁这么混kd的 这么混kd早被人打飞了
12:37 ts8zs: 01:08:405 (4) - 怎么突然冒出个贝塞尔
12:38 S o a p: 被你这么说
12:38 S o a p: 不re是不行?
12:38 ts8zs: 01:12:795 (2,5) - 为什么不用复制
12:38 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_节奏大问题没有
12:38 ts8zs: 重摆细节就行
12:39 ts8zs: 你难道觉得你这个Insane做得很好。。。
12:40 S o a p: 屎啊
12:40 ts8zs: 你要是觉得自己挑不出细节要不要我一点一点帮你找。。。
12:40 S o a p: ..
12:40 S o a p: 您再找下去
12:40 S o a p: 我怕是要把您打飞了
12:41 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_这我就不po到论坛了
12:42 S o a p: 您别po了
12:42 S o a p: 我被喷成狗了
12:42 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_感觉你和二妹可以拼一拼作图技巧。
Otosaka-Yu

S o a p wrote:

12:05 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_我摸的图比那个1112打的图都多。。。
12:05 ts8zs: 自己菜还让别人reduce difficulty
12:06 ts8zs: 现在真有趣。。。
只是为了spread而着想,你就说我菜,这话听起来不痛快了吧
我叫你nerf反而被理解成remap,exm?什么理解能力?叫我指定位置来叫你nerf,又不是我的难度为什么要我指定
总之我没啥好说的了

Crystal wrote:

00:56:331 (2,3) - visual distance不太好
倒是挺常规的hard
fixed啦~
hard
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488,292,82673,2,0,L|322:283,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,198,83404,5,2,0:0:0:0:
227,271,83587,1,0,0:0:0:0:
179,327,83770,2,0,L|95:329,1,70
30,363,84136,2,0,P|14:303|32:202,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
67,147,84685,1,0,0:0:0:0:
188,188,84868,6,0,L|354:179,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
471,275,85599,2,0,L|331:282,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,328,86331,6,0,B|172:291|172:291|188:188,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
201,120,86880,1,0,0:0:0:0:
245,56,87063,2,0,P|300:33|384:38,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
461,158,87795,6,0,L|453:315,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,313,88343,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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348,104,89807,1,0,0:0:0:0:
315,176,89990,2,0,L|307:333,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,347,90721,5,2,0:0:0:0:
6,179,91453,1,2,0:0:0:0:
67,20,92185,6,0,P|115:48|201:31,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
277,18,92734,1,2,0:0:0:0:
351,53,92916,2,0,L|341:202,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
394,252,93465,1,2,0:0:0:0:
455,305,93648,6,0,P|380:303|311:335,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
262,272,94197,1,2,0:0:0:0:
189,300,94380,2,0,P|124:325|55:322,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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288,304,97124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
226,353,97307,2,0,L|84:346,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
34,251,97856,1,2,0:0:0:0:
58,244,97947,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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Gust
看了眼群所以来水个摸

[Insane]
00:04:746 (2) - 听音乐感觉这里没有下Whistle的必要
00:15:995 (1,2) - 下成3连会不会更好,我觉得第三个钢琴音是需要去打击的,而不是作为转盘的开始
00:20:477 (1) - 1可以考虑拆成note+slider。因为00:20:660 - 这里是个钢琴音,比较适合作为打击而不是折返点
00:38:039 (1,2,3) - 我感觉这里做这种等距的梗并不合适。这种比较缓和的段还是不要给玩家造成困扰比较好,个人的一个摆法
01:01:271 (2) - 这里似乎听不到音
01:22:490 (2,3) - 这里感觉不应该下这么小的ds,我第一遍打这里读错了。因为前面从01:07:307 (1) - 这里开始ds都是稳定的,这里这么小的ds非常突兀。
01:33:099 (3) - 摆的位置感觉有些随意了,要么与前面2个组一个三角形,要么01:31:819 (3,3) - 这两个搞成这样
01:35:843 (3,4,5,6,1) - 使用添加多边形圆圈吧

GL!
ts8zs

S o a p wrote:

我觉得你还是先学会做人再来作图比较好
我不po你来po还行,想要搞大事情? 就因为我先说你图?
我只承认态度有问题 图不行还不让说了?私聊就随便提了几下子 要不要我再讲讲多一点?=_,=

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

总之我没啥好说的了
我的误解 我的错 我道歉 对不起

Wing My Way wrote:

比你那被删的gd强。不知道你是哪来的优越感,喷图还捎个人进行攻击的 关于做图我没有任何优越感 我认为是好图的图我绝对会不遗余力的去赞美 当时心情不好又看到图的质量不太行就乱喷了一通 而且我也觉得当时没讲出什么道理所以也没po出来 我后来也道歉了 如果creator没听到的话:
我当时心情不好瞎喷了你的图 真的很对不起 我应该好好地讲 说出理由 不知道你现在还愿意听吗?

Wing My Way wrote:

喷图还捎个人进行攻击的
一本来这是私人谈话 我完全没想过他会po出来或者po给别人 二是因为我觉得像这种 p/6150870 rank图一堆却完全不想提升自己作图技巧的现象是相通的所以才会有这个发言,当然二妹的摆放和节奏是很好的,但是这个不想学习音效的irc mod真的是让我很生气。
我看到这个图的质量不行真的很生气,因为我给GD的时候看到还没做完 但是rank的另外一张爱丽丝图的质量还行(但是后来一生气就扔出去骂creator这都能rank,当然rank的质量是够的,但是我认为能做得更好),我以为做完质量会有提升到和那个齐平 但是这张creator说他做完了之后我check一下却发现质量却更差于是才有了上面的对话。
Topic Starter
S o a p

Gust wrote:

看了眼群所以来水个摸

[Insane]
00:04:746 (2) - 听音乐感觉这里没有下Whistle的必要去了感觉空空的
00:15:995 (1,2) - 下成3连会不会更好,我觉得第三个钢琴音是需要去打击的,而不是作为转盘的开始
00:20:477 (1) - 1可以考虑拆成note+slider。因为00:20:660 - 这里是个钢琴音,比较适合作为打击而不是折返点
00:38:039 (1,2,3) - 我感觉这里做这种等距的梗并不合适。这种比较缓和的段还是不要给玩家造成困扰比较好,个人的一个摆法
01:01:271 (2) - 这里似乎听不到音note放蓝线了
01:22:490 (2,3) - 这里感觉不应该下这么小的ds,我第一遍打这里读错了。因为前面从01:07:307 (1) - 这里开始ds都是稳定的,这里这么小的ds非常突兀。
01:33:099 (3) - 摆的位置感觉有些随意了,要么与前面2个组一个三角形,要么01:31:819 (3,3) - 这两个搞成这样
01:35:843 (3,4,5,6,1) - 使用添加多边形圆圈吧

GL!
谢谢
Topic Starter
S o a p

ts8zs wrote:

S o a p wrote:

我觉得你还是先学会做人再来作图比较好
1
11:54 S o a p: 让你
11:54 S o a p: 不对
11:54 S o a p: 让我们,nerf一下
11:54 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 我拒绝
11:54 ts8zs: 这是我做这图的目的
11:54 S o a p: =-=|||
11:54 S o a p: 啥目的
11:54 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 低速跳图
11:55 S o a p: bn:喵喵喵?
11:55 S o a p: 会不会被找麻烦啊
11:55 ts8zs: 不会
11:55 S o a p: 小可怜.jpg
11:55 ts8zs: 质量够 不违反rc
11:55 ts8zs: 凭什么找麻烦
11:57 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_要是有bn找我diff麻烦 我就找人帮你飞。。。
11:58 S o a p: 泡不好找,瑟瑟发抖
11:58 S o a p: 找谁
11:58 S o a p: 你有大腿可以抱吗
11:58 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 诶我操我7个bnmu还找不到个泡了。。。
11:58 S o a p: e
11:58 S o a p: nb
11:58 S o a p: 那我找摸
11:59 S o a p: 您找泡
11:59 S o a p: 如何
11:59 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_请注意前面的谈话
12:00 S o a p: 主要我觉得太跳不是很合曲
12:00 S o a p: 不知道别人咋看
12:00 S o a p: 我先找几个摸
12:05 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_我摸的图比那个1112打的图都多。。。
12:05 ts8zs: 自己菜还让别人reduce difficulty
12:06 ts8zs: 现在真有趣。。。
12:09 S o a p: emmmmmmmm
12:13 S o a p: 我是守序善良啊
12:13 S o a p: 瑟瑟发抖
12:13 S o a p: 我先找几个摸看看好了
12:13 ts8zs: 你那图已经是混乱善良了
12:14 S o a p: ;w;|||
2
12:28 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_还有如果你要做mapper我建议你改个名
12:28 S o a p: 咋了
12:29 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_你这个名字放在osu里面根本搜不到
12:29 ts8zs: 搜 s o a p 能剩下一堆
12:29 S o a p: 因为空格吗
12:29 ts8zs: 对_(:3」∠)_
12:30 S o a p: e
12:30 S o a p: 搜不到好
12:30 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_
12:30 *ts8zs is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1389087 Tachibana Arisu - in fact [Insane]]
12:31 ts8zs: 00:05:843 (1) - 你这作图风格我猜不透
12:31 ts8zs: 00:10:965 (2) - 这都为啥
12:31 S o a p: e
12:32 ts8zs: 00:23:953 (3,5) - 3尾和5 根本都不是一个音为什么叠一起
12:32 ts8zs: 00:19:380 (2,5) - 5 为什么不用2复制
12:32 ts8zs: 00:20:477 (1) - 为什么会是个折返
12:33 ts8zs: 00:32:185 (1,3) - 同样的歌曲走向为什么一个横一个竖
12:33 ts8zs: 为什么一个弧度大一个弧度小
12:33 ts8zs: 为什么一个在头 一个在尾
12:33 S o a p: 。。。
12:33 ts8zs: 这都他吗为什么啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:36:941 (3,1) - 这里为什么是个antiflow啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:42:795 (2,3) - 这里的角度差究竟是个啥意思啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:43:892 (1) - 这滑条为啥抖一下啊
12:35 ts8zs: 00:53:039 (1,2) - 这他吗又是为啥啊
12:35 S o a p: 我日
12:35 S o a p: 你要混kd?
12:35 ts8zs: 01:01:819 - 这里为什么又空出来了啊你不是跟vocal的吗
12:36 ts8zs: 混kd 你这图我看不下去好嘛
12:36 ts8zs: 我是为了能早飞好吗?
12:37 ts8zs: 你见过谁这么混kd的 这么混kd早被人打飞了
12:37 ts8zs: 01:08:405 (4) - 怎么突然冒出个贝塞尔
12:38 S o a p: 被你这么说
12:38 S o a p: 不re是不行?
12:38 ts8zs: 01:12:795 (2,5) - 为什么不用复制
12:38 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_节奏大问题没有
12:38 ts8zs: 重摆细节就行
12:39 ts8zs: 你难道觉得你这个Insane做得很好。。。
12:40 S o a p: 屎啊
12:40 ts8zs: 你要是觉得自己挑不出细节要不要我一点一点帮你找。。。
12:40 S o a p: ..
12:40 S o a p: 您再找下去
12:40 S o a p: 我怕是要把您打飞了
12:41 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_这我就不po到论坛了
12:42 S o a p: 您别po了
12:42 S o a p: 我被喷成狗了
12:42 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_感觉你和二妹可以拼一拼作图技巧。
我不po你来po还行,想要搞大事情? 就因为我先说你图?
我只承认态度有问题 图不行还不让说了?私聊就随便提了几下子 要不要我再讲讲多一点?=_,=1.你知道你态度有问题就好 2.我的图只愿意给态度正常的人说

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

总之我没啥好说的了
我的误解 我的错 我道歉 对不起
Wing My Way

ts8zs wrote:

S o a p wrote:

我觉得你还是先学会做人再来作图比较好
1
11:54 S o a p: 让你
11:54 S o a p: 不对
11:54 S o a p: 让我们,nerf一下
11:54 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 我拒绝
11:54 ts8zs: 这是我做这图的目的
11:54 S o a p: =-=|||
11:54 S o a p: 啥目的
11:54 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 低速跳图
11:55 S o a p: bn:喵喵喵?
11:55 S o a p: 会不会被找麻烦啊
11:55 ts8zs: 不会
11:55 S o a p: 小可怜.jpg
11:55 ts8zs: 质量够 不违反rc
11:55 ts8zs: 凭什么找麻烦
11:57 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_要是有bn找我diff麻烦 我就找人帮你飞。。。
11:58 S o a p: 泡不好找,瑟瑟发抖
11:58 S o a p: 找谁
11:58 S o a p: 你有大腿可以抱吗
11:58 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_ 诶我操我7个bnmu还找不到个泡了。。。
11:58 S o a p: e
11:58 S o a p: nb
11:58 S o a p: 那我找摸
11:59 S o a p: 您找泡
11:59 S o a p: 如何
11:59 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_请注意前面的谈话
12:00 S o a p: 主要我觉得太跳不是很合曲
12:00 S o a p: 不知道别人咋看
12:00 S o a p: 我先找几个摸
12:05 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_我摸的图比那个1112打的图都多。。。
12:05 ts8zs: 自己菜还让别人reduce difficulty
12:06 ts8zs: 现在真有趣。。。
12:09 S o a p: emmmmmmmm
12:13 S o a p: 我是守序善良啊
12:13 S o a p: 瑟瑟发抖
12:13 S o a p: 我先找几个摸看看好了
12:13 ts8zs: 你那图已经是混乱善良了
12:14 S o a p: ;w;|||
2
12:28 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_还有如果你要做mapper我建议你改个名
12:28 S o a p: 咋了
12:29 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_你这个名字放在osu里面根本搜不到
12:29 ts8zs: 搜 s o a p 能剩下一堆
12:29 S o a p: 因为空格吗
12:29 ts8zs: 对_(:3」∠)_
12:30 S o a p: e
12:30 S o a p: 搜不到好
12:30 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_
12:30 *ts8zs is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1389087 Tachibana Arisu - in fact [Insane]]
12:31 ts8zs: 00:05:843 (1) - 你这作图风格我猜不透
12:31 ts8zs: 00:10:965 (2) - 这都为啥
12:31 S o a p: e
12:32 ts8zs: 00:23:953 (3,5) - 3尾和5 根本都不是一个音为什么叠一起
12:32 ts8zs: 00:19:380 (2,5) - 5 为什么不用2复制
12:32 ts8zs: 00:20:477 (1) - 为什么会是个折返
12:33 ts8zs: 00:32:185 (1,3) - 同样的歌曲走向为什么一个横一个竖
12:33 ts8zs: 为什么一个弧度大一个弧度小
12:33 ts8zs: 为什么一个在头 一个在尾
12:33 S o a p: 。。。
12:33 ts8zs: 这都他吗为什么啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:36:941 (3,1) - 这里为什么是个antiflow啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:42:795 (2,3) - 这里的角度差究竟是个啥意思啊
12:34 ts8zs: 00:43:892 (1) - 这滑条为啥抖一下啊
12:35 ts8zs: 00:53:039 (1,2) - 这他吗又是为啥啊
12:35 S o a p: 我日
12:35 S o a p: 你要混kd?
12:35 ts8zs: 01:01:819 - 这里为什么又空出来了啊你不是跟vocal的吗
12:36 ts8zs: 混kd 你这图我看不下去好嘛
12:36 ts8zs: 我是为了能早飞好吗?
12:37 ts8zs: 你见过谁这么混kd的 这么混kd早被人打飞了
12:37 ts8zs: 01:08:405 (4) - 怎么突然冒出个贝塞尔
12:38 S o a p: 被你这么说
12:38 S o a p: 不re是不行?
12:38 ts8zs: 01:12:795 (2,5) - 为什么不用复制
12:38 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_节奏大问题没有
12:38 ts8zs: 重摆细节就行
12:39 ts8zs: 你难道觉得你这个Insane做得很好。。。
12:40 S o a p: 屎啊
12:40 ts8zs: 你要是觉得自己挑不出细节要不要我一点一点帮你找。。。
12:40 S o a p: ..
12:40 S o a p: 您再找下去
12:40 S o a p: 我怕是要把您打飞了
12:41 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_这我就不po到论坛了
12:42 S o a p: 您别po了
12:42 S o a p: 我被喷成狗了
12:42 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_感觉你和二妹可以拼一拼作图技巧。
我不po你来po还行,想要搞大事情? 就因为我先说你图?
我只承认态度有问题 图不行还不让说了?私聊就随便提了几下子 要不要我再讲讲多一点?=_,=
真不好意思你可以去问问player圈知道s o a p的比ts8zs的多,所以也不用您跟这指点迷津了
只看出喷子态度没看出你这是摸图态度,什么叫风格我猜不透”“这都为啥”“这他吗又是为啥啊”“究竟是个啥意思啊你连理由都没有还来摸图?或者说你摸图也就这水平,只会瞎喷?拜托,喷子也有喷的有道理的好吗

ts8zs wrote:

12:39 ts8zs: 你难道觉得你这个Insane做得很好。。。
12:42 ts8zs: _(:3」∠)_感觉你和二妹可以拼一拼作图技巧。
比你那被删的gd强。不知道你是哪来的优越感,喷图还捎个人进行攻击的
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