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marshmello - KnOw ME (Original Mix)

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Pachiru
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on dimanche 31 décembre 2017 at 22:39:01

Artist: marshmello
Title: KnOw ME (Original Mix)
Tags: ayyri fireflyuh joytime trap gabe veus
BPM: 142
Filesize: 2716kb
Play Time: 01:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. Ayyri's Normal (1,84 stars, 155 notes)
  2. Gabe's Easy (1,28 stars, 98 notes)
  3. Hard (2,56 stars, 224 notes)
  4. Insane (3,51 stars, 279 notes)
Download: marshmello - KnOw ME (Original Mix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#4 - Marshmello Pack #2

Have fun playing it!

Easy by Gabe
Normal by Ayyri
Hard by Pachiru
Insane by Pachiru & Fireflyuh (I mapped the chorus, she mapped the calm part.)
A r M i N
beaw
[General]
  1. I highly suggest adding an Easy difficulty considering almost all of the rhythms in the Normal are 1/2.
[Ayyri's Normal]
  1. Bro, fix your NC's like, asap. I'll even do it for you if you want tbh.
  2. 00:00:091 (1,2,1,2) - You probably shouldn't do this... Keep all spacing consistent in a Normal. Use AiMod to help with that.
  3. 00:13:612 - While your rhythms are quite cool and interesting, I suggest you keep the variation to a minimum since this is still a Normal. With that being said, don't be afraid to have some cool rhythms, just make sure they stay consistent with each other.
    00:30:302 (3,4,5,6) - This, for example, is probably going to be uncomfortable for newer players because of the offbeats.
  4. 00:40:654 - Please reconsider some of the rhythms in this section.
    00:40:654 (1,2,3,1) - (1,2,3) is cool, but why is (1) a slider...?
[Hard]
  1. 00:44:879 (2,1) - I suggest making these angles parallel.
[Insane]
  1. 00:57:027 - I think you're fine with how it is, but why skip the kick drum?
^^; I kinda really like this map
Kyuukai
slt
Insane
00:19:844 (4) - Ca devrait être snap ici 00:19:950 - y'a rien la ou tu l'as mis xd
00:26:288 (4) - même chose qu'au dessus, ca devrait être snappé ici 00:26:710 -
00:54:175 (1,2) - lé blanket courbe c pa bon :(

o revoar
Rin Desu
heyhey, here are my suggestion for your mapset! ;)
from M4m: t/579384

Normal:

Aimod distance snap since its an easy/normal: 00:07:485 (2,3) - and 00:10:865 (2,3) -
also guideline: avoid stacks u got alot its confusing for new players maybe find a other solution^^

from here 00:13:612 (1,2) - to here 00:32:626 (1) - your rhythm choice appears imo kinda random
00:13:612 (1,2,3,4) - if u mapped the voice u missed 00:15:407 - if u followed the beat u put your clicks wrong cause this 00:14:457 (2) - sliderend should be a click then. you rly should recheck that part or explain me what u did there^^ for an easy diff u should make it simple and clean.

00:47:414 (1,2,3,4) - here u mapped the claps and missed alltime one: 00:48:048 - , 00:48:893 - , ...

Hard:

why u skip a part 00:44:034 (1) - and dont made it like 00:42:344 (1,2) - ?

beside that blankets u can improve:
00:15:091 (4,1) -
00:17:203 (2,3) -
00:31:147 (3,4) -
00:39:386 (2,3) -
00:43:189 (4,5) -
01:25:231 (2,3) -
01:33:471 (2,3) -

i like it :)

Insane:

00:54:175 (1,2) - if u look at them togheter they doesnt fit blank them right^^
01:14:457 (1,2,3,4,5) - this has the same spacing like 01:16:147 (1,2,3,4,5) - and is much more exciting :O
and yeaah again some blankets u can improve^^
: 00:15:724 (2,3) - , 00:23:752 (1,2) - , 00:32:203 (1,2) - , 00:34:316 (2,3) - , 00:36:429 (3,4) - , 00:38:964 (1,2,3) - ,
00:43:189 (5,6) - , 00:45:196 (4,1) - , 01:08:330 (4,5) - , 01:12:238 (4,5,1) - , 01:12:767 (1,2) - , 01:22:379 (5,6) - , 01:24:598 (1,2,3) - , 01:29:668 (1,2,3) - , 01:34:210 (6,7) -

well clean stuff
good luck :)
Realazy
[General]

tu peux ajouter trap et joytime aux tags histoire de pas faire trop vide

00:00:091 - les hitsounds sont vraiment forts ici imo, tu pourrais essayer 45-35-25 en volume, ça passe mieux je pense

[Hard]

tu pourrais augmenter un peu l'od ça fait vachement low 5 pour une hard

00:51:745 (1) - ça fait plutôt court comme spinner pour une hard, auto fait à peine 2000 bonus et je pense pas que les joueurs peuvent spin 477 à ce niveau, tu peux essayer de le commencer sur le white tick comme dans l'insane pour donner un peu plus de temps

[Insane]

là aussi tu peux augmenter l'od un peu, od7 ça devrait aller

00:19:527 (3,4) - 00:26:288 (3,4) - imo ça passerait mieux ce rythme pour suivre les vocals

00:44:879 (3,4) - ctrl+g le rythme pour la même raison
Hokichi
Hi M4M deal
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/642022

Normal
[]
00:06:851 (1,2,3) - I cried. Please use distance snap
00:10:231 (1,2,3) - Same :(
00:40:654 (1,2) - Do something like Same goes till 00:47:414 - , because to me it fits the music better
01:05:161 (3) - Move this lower so it will flow better with 01:06:006 (4) - perharps? Moving it to (162:89) is good
01:13:189 (1,2,3,4) - You should either stack both or unstack both

Hard
[]
00:43:612 (5) - Move the tail up a bit please
00:46:569 (4,5) - Why do they stay so close? >///< Jk, you should move them a bit further
01:26:288 (1) - Try to blanket 01:25:443 (3) - ?

Insane
[]
It's nicely mapped already, just want you to know that you can play a bit with the DS to make the map more interesting :D

That's all from me
Nowaie
Could ya try to response to the mods sometime soon? It's kinda hard to mod the set because of that many unanswered mods .-.
Aurele
Tell me whenever everything's up, I'll drop a mod also
Topic Starter
Pachiru

Stingy wrote:

[General]
  1. I highly suggest adding an Easy difficulty considering almost all of the rhythms in the Normal are 1/2. Yes, done!

[Hard]
  1. 00:44:879 (2,1) - I suggest making these angles parallel I didn't want to make these parallels because I think that's not respecting the way I mapped the song, I wanted to have something with a better flow for this one, after a repeat one. I tried what you suggest, but it feels strange to play.
[Insane]
  1. 00:57:027 - I think you're fine with how it is, but why skip the kick drum? Because she got focused on the synth instead of the kicks, since the synth is more audible in the song.
^^; I kinda really like this map Thanks for the mod!

Kyuukai wrote:

slt
Insane
00:19:844 (4) - Ca devrait être snap ici 00:19:950 - y'a rien la ou tu l'as mis xd Pas compris
00:26:288 (4) - même chose qu'au dessus, ca devrait être snappé ici 00:26:710 - ^
00:54:175 (1,2) - lé blanket courbe c pa bon :( Fixed, j'ai réduis le spacing, pour qu'on voit mieux le blanket

o revoar Merci :poop:

Rin Desu wrote:

Hard:

why u skip a part 00:44:034 (1) - and dont made it like 00:42:344 (1,2) - ? Those two parts are two different parts, But I managed to map the both part same, one part is made on 1/1 and the second one on 1/2. But I diversified the two patterns to make this more enjoyable to play.

beside that blankets u can improve:
00:15:091 (4,1) -
00:17:203 (2,3) -
00:31:147 (3,4) -
00:39:386 (2,3) -
00:43:189 (4,5) -
01:25:231 (2,3) -
01:33:471 (2,3) - I fixed some blankets, but some other not, because they were too picky, and some are impossible to fix, due to stacks. But in all the case, I fixed some that I judged useful to fix

i like it :)

Insane:

00:54:175 (1,2) - if u look at them togheter they doesnt fit blank them right^^ I fixed this due to the previous mod, but thanks for pointing out that, cause it made me change my mind!
01:14:457 (1,2,3,4,5) - this has the same spacing like 01:16:147 (1,2,3,4,5) - and is much more exciting :O
and yeaah again some blankets u can improve^^ Indeed! She increased the spacing on this part where there is intense sounds!
: 00:15:724 (2,3) - , 00:23:752 (1,2) - , 00:32:203 (1,2) - , 00:34:316 (2,3) - , 00:36:429 (3,4) - , 00:38:964 (1,2,3) - ,
00:43:189 (5,6) - , 00:45:196 (4,1) - , 01:08:330 (4,5) - , 01:12:238 (4,5,1) - , 01:12:767 (1,2) - , 01:22:379 (5,6) - , 01:24:598 (1,2,3) - , 01:29:668 (1,2,3) - , 01:34:210 (6,7) - Same as Hard, I fixed some, and some other picky blanket, I didn't!

well clean stuff Thanks :)
good luck :)

Realazy wrote:

[General]

tu peux ajouter trap et joytime aux tags histoire de pas faire trop vide Added!

00:00:091 - les hitsounds sont vraiment forts ici imo, tu pourrais essayer 45-35-25 en volume, ça passe mieux je pense Je verrai avec Ari étant donné que c'est elle qui a fait les hitsounds.

[Hard]

tu pourrais augmenter un peu l'od ça fait vachement low 5 pour une hard Je suis d'accord, j'ai increase a 6, si jamais c'est trop bas, je descendrai a 5.5

00:51:745 (1) - ça fait plutôt court comme spinner pour une hard, auto fait à peine 2000 bonus et je pense pas que les joueurs peuvent spin 477 à ce niveau, tu peux essayer de le commencer sur le white tick comme dans l'insane pour donner un peu plus de temps

[Insane]

là aussi tu peux augmenter l'od un peu, od7 ça devrait aller Yep!

00:19:527 (3,4) - 00:26:288 (3,4) - imo ça passerait mieux ce rythme pour suivre les vocals Je suis pas fan de ça, parce que je voulais que le dernier beat (le beat rouge) soit mappé, donc du coup, je trouve que la façon dont c'est mappé actuellement c'est plus interessant, au final, ça reste a peu près la même chose que j'ai fais, sauf que les beats cliquables ne sont pas au même endroit, et c'est ça que je voulais pas justement, mais je prends note, au cas ou ce soit VRAIMENT un problème!

00:44:879 (3,4) - ctrl+g le rythme pour la même raison La par contre ça ne changera pas, vu que pour cette partie, elle s'est basée sur le synthé pour le mapper, donc je pense pas qu'elle le changera.

Hokichi wrote:

Hi M4M deal
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/642022

Hard
[]
00:43:612 (5) - Move the tail up a bit please Done!
00:46:569 (4,5) - Why do they stay so close? >///< Jk, you should move them a bit further For this part, I wanted to make something that was respective to the DS, so that's why they're so close. They're all mapped on a x1.0 DS.
01:26:288 (1) - Try to blanket 01:25:443 (3) - ? Nope, cause this is a new pattern, so I prefer to keep it as it is actually!

Insane
[]
It's nicely mapped already, just want you to know that you can play a bit with the DS to make the map more interesting :D Thanks!

That's all from me
For the next modders: The second part of the Insane will not be changed to add more spacing, because since she considered that it's a less intense part, that's her way to show this. Please respect this if you want to suggest to add more DS/jumps in there. (if there is a particular reason for a special beat, she will look at it.)

Thanks to everyone ! I appreciate the support you're giving on the map by modding it ! I'll do your mods asap, I promise !
Aurele
coucou!

General
  1. Don't forget a Preview Point :-)
  2. you dont know me kappa lol.jpg and KnOw ME.jpg are not the same dimension. I know this is not an actual issue, but I still would like to suggest you to have both of these background to have the same dimension!
  3. 01:08:541 - On every difficulties, in this section I saw that you are using a custom sampleset which has a custom hitsound attached to it. Since there is a flicking sound at this point in the song, it would be nice if you'd start a clap hitsound consistency with this custom hitsound. You will have to be careful to cover everything in this part!
Gabe's Easy
  1. Perfect difficulty. 10 out of 10, I would recommend.
  2. Take this version, as there is the hitsounds:
    Gabe's Easy
    osu file format v14

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    PreviewTime: -1
    Countdown: 1
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    StackLeniency: 0.7
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    BeatDivisor: 4
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    Title:KnOw ME
    TitleUnicode:KnOw ME
    Artist:Marshmello
    ArtistUnicode:Marshmello
    Creator:Pachiru
    Version:Gabe's Easy
    Source:
    Tags:ayyri fireflyuh joytime trap gabe veus
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    128,264,86288,2,0,L|56:272,1,69.9999999999999,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    28,184,87133,2,0,L|97:176,1,69.9999999999999,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    140,96,87978,6,0,L|279:111,1,140,4|10,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    360,68,89245,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    368,160,89668,2,0,L|383:299,1,140,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    328,372,90936,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    288,292,91358,6,0,P|232:244|165:246,1,140,4|10,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    84,284,92626,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    92,192,93048,2,0,L|96:120,1,69.9999999999999,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    180,156,93893,2,0,L|184:84,1,69.9999999999999,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    268,120,94738,5,4,0:1:0:0:
Ayyri's Normal
  1. 00:07:485 (2) - I don't understand why there is such a drastic change into this spacing. I believe you were trying to focus on the blanket with the previous slider, but seems like you forgot to take into consideration the spacing consistency. I highly suggest you to make this spacing 1,50x like you were doing previously on 00:00:091 (1,2,3) - and 00:03:471 (1,2,3) - ! (Apply the same thing to 00:10:865 (2) - also!)
  2. 01:11:076 (1) - I understand the reason why this slider has a slightly larger spacing, however, it's the only place in the beatmap that you are doing such thing to emphasize different intonations. I'm suggesting you in this case, to make sure everything is consistent, to move this slider and keep it's spacing at 1,50x
The main issue in this difficulty would be new combo consistency. You are not following anything from the song and it looks messy. In this case, I will suggest you to mainly do new combos on every two downbeats instead of only one, it will cover most issues in here. I am suggesting you to apply the next points here:
Suggestions in here
  1. 00:06:006 (1) - You can delete this new combo. It is still part of the previous combo has it continues on the same measure
  2. 00:12:767 (1) - Delete the new combo. Same reason as above
  3. 00:15:724 (1) - Delete the new combo
  4. 00:17:414 (8) - Add a new combo. You would normally add a new combo to 00:16:992 - but it's covered by a slider end
  5. 00:19:105 (1) - Delete the new combo
  6. 00:20:372 (7) - Add a new combo. It's a new measure
  7. 00:22:485 (1) - Delete the new combo
  8. 00:23:752 (8) - Add a new combo
  9. 00:25:865 (1) - Delete the new combo
  10. 00:29:245 (1) - Delete the new combo
  11. 00:30:091 (2) - Add a new combo. You will kinda break the consistency at this point, but it will follow the song and your objects after this point.
  12. 00:32:626 (1) - Delete the new combo
  13. 00:33:893 (10) - Add a new combo
  14. 00:36:006 (1) - Delete the new combo
  15. 00:37:274 (4) - Add a new combo
  16. 00:39:386 (1) - Delete the new combo
  17. 00:57:555 (5) - Add a new combo
  18. 00:58:400 (1) - Delete the new combo
  19. 01:09:386 (1) - Delete the new combo
  20. 01:13:189 (1) - Delete the new combo
  21. 01:23:752 (1) - Delete the new combo
  22. 01:24:598 (2) - Add a new combo
  23. 01:25:443 (1) - Delete the new combo
  24. 01:27:133 (1) - Delete the new combo
  25. 01:27:978 (2) - Add a new combo
  26. 01:28:823 (1) - Delete the new combo
  27. 01:30:513 (1) - Delete the new combo
  28. 01:31:358 (2) - Add a new combo

Hard
  1. 00:03:471 (1) - I like the idea to have the spacing at 0.21x, since there is basically nothing to emphasize. However, most of your other moments like this one are not doing the same thing. Take a look at these objects and try to make them consistent! (00:06:851 (1) - , 00:10:231 (1) - )
  2. 00:15:724 (2,3) - The fact that these two objects are aligned together, it does not allow the flow to be great. The first slider's curvature goes from the left to the right, so it would be a nice idea if the next object would be placed somewhere near the right. I am suggesting you to move the slider (3) at around x: y:
  3. 00:21:217 (3) - There is missing a clap hitsound to this slider's tail to follow the clap consistency.
  4. 00:59:985 (3,4) - It would be nice if these stacked objects were moved to x:156 y:326. It will invite the player to start reaching up to catch the next objects afterward.
Great job!

Insane
  1. 00:00:513 (2) - This is just a personal taste, I don't really like when most objects are aligned on the same axis when one of these objects is a slider and the shape does not allow to align with the previous object. In this case, I would recommend to move this slider a little bit at the right, since the curvature of the slider goes at the right. It will also create a better movement with both the previous and the next objects.
  2. 00:41:921 (5) - There is missing a clap hitsound to this slider's beginning point to follow the consistency of your clap hitsounds.
  3. 00:45:196 (4) - This slider is not emphasizing the correct elements of the song. What I mean by this, is that you are not covering the clap sound at 00:45:302 - since the slider goes right over it. I am suggesting you to do something else here. You can follow what you have done previously on 00:41:499 (3,4,5) - since it's technically the same moment. So, in this case, I suggest you to change the rhythm to what it is shown on the picture below. It will keep your main idea of having an object at 00:45:196 - while emphasizing the clap sound at 00:45:302 - :
  4. 00:56:288 (2) - Seems like it wouldn't be terrible to add a whistle hitsound to the beginning of this slider also, it follow the song and your other hitsounds as well. Also, there is a whistle to this slider 01:01:358 (2) - (which is technically the same as this one)
  5. 00:59:668 (2) - A whistle can be added here also, it feels missing since there's basically a whistle every upbeats.
  6. 01:03:048 (2) - You should also add a whistle to this slider. Same reason as the one above.
  7. 01:08:330 (4,5) - The spacing between these two is kind of awkward since you were trying to focus on the blanket only and forgot about the emphasis of the song. As there is no major changes in the intonation of the song, you should actually follow the spacing of your previous objects, which was consistent on a 1,21x spree or else, since there is a flicking sound at this moment, you can even make the spacing even larger. This goes up to you.
  8. 01:16:992 (5) - This object's emplacement feels pretty weird as it's aligned with the end of the previous slider. I suggest you to move this slider at around x:116 y:32. It will create a better effect and it will follow the song in a way since there is a flicking sound at this place and you are asking the player to go to the opposite direction quickly.
  9. 01:17:414 (6) - If you follow the previous suggestion, you will see that this slider will be pretty out of place with the next slider. Either you move this slider and the previous one to make the spacing consistent or else, I can suggest you to do something else: With this slider, move it to x:360 y:100 you could do a CTRL+G to change the starting point of the slider, it will create a little jump with the previous slider and then, with the next slider, you could do a blanket with the starting point of the previous slider. Here is an example:
Nice job overall. The rhythm choice, as well as the flows, represents the song greatly :)

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If there is anything that you don't understand in my mod, please come to me! Also, call me back for me to recheck some points after you're done applying the changes :)
Nowaie
m4m


Gabe

00:27:133 (1,2,3) - You are kinda merging circular movement (slidertail1|2|sliderhead3) and straight movement (1) in a way that it does not look as good as it could imo. I think you should choose one of them and base the whole pattern around that kind of movement


Ayyri

I hear you are going to remap .-. so yeah, best of luck with that fam


Hard

00:01:569 (4,4,4,4) - Lower the volume of the reversepoints, it's bit too loud when compared to the first, strong sound right now imo

00:06:006 (5) - Make it consistent with the other similar parts. 00:12:767 (5) - as well, only without the reverse

00:19:527 (3) - I can't understand why is this 3/4 since there is just nothing on the reverse point. The sounds are on the red tick before and the white tick is accompanied with a vocal. I would understand something like 3/4 slider into 1/2 for the hold what would make sense vocal wise but the current does not make sense. Applies to all similar sliders in this section

00:47:414 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part is just the same vocals four times in a row and the similar drum beats are all over the place so it would be much better to represent it through consistent mapping since now it plays different and has different movement for identical parts

00:51:640 (3,1) - This is just too fast for this level of difficulty, i can give that the spinner is somewhat predictable but the players still take a short while to react to the spinner

00:54:175 (1) - I'd suggest making this just a bit slower to give 00:55:865 (1) - more emphasis as the starting object of the new section

01:25:443 (3,1) - Pretty much in any other occasion in the kiai the 3/4 reverse slider and the slider after that form some kind of pattern so i'd recommend making something here aswell. For example playing with the curving would look quite nice imo https://puu.sh/xjmxz/90746da0b2.png


Insane

00:01:569 (4,4,4,4) - 00:06:006 (5) - 00:12:767 (5) - Same stuff as in hard

00:19:527 (3,4,5) - Yeah this aswell, the players are not clicking the main beats/vocals which is simply not good

00:47:414 (1,2,3,4) - Since the sounds are similar it'd look more logical if the sliders were similar like here 00:49:105 (1,2,3,4) -

01:07:907 (2,3) - Imo a triple would fit here much better than that. There are few other similar thingys where a triple would be better than 1/2s

01:16:781 (4,5) - This kind of sharp turn looks kinda awkward when compared to the much more lenient patterns such as 01:13:400 (3,4) - that you seem to be favoring overall for similar parts in the song

01:29:457 (6,2) - Structurally speaking it would be better to not have these two stacked, maybe blanket the 2 with 5? It would create pretty much similar somewhat back and forth movement like you have done now

01:32:837 (5,1,3,4) - Idk, i think it would look better if 1 and 4 would be spaced like 5 and 3


Noice set
Alheak
hello

[Insane]
  1. 00:13:823 (2,3) - the way this jump leads into the slider is kinda awkward, try to smooth out the angle of the flow here
  2. 00:41:921 (5) - rhythmically i feel like it'd be better to have two circles here instead of a slider, 00:42:133 - is quite strong and really tempting to hit while playing
    applies to other similar patterns
  3. 00:45:196 (4) - why is there a 3/4 slider here out of nowhere
[Easy]
  1. 01:02:203 (2) - 01:05:583 (2) - 01:12:344 (2) - etc... there's nothing here, map it with a slider end instead if you really wanna keep the 1/2 rhythm but i'd suggest finding something more appropriate for the whole section
good luck
Topic Starter
Pachiru
Ayyri's answers to mod:

[Stingy]
ya
ok so
for the variation point
the patterning for the rhythm isn't the same every time because the song repeats like hell
even the other diffs don't do the same thing each time
so like
variation man
uh i am only responding to major points
others i either declined to did smol fix on my own(edited)
[Hokichi]
on 01:13:189 -
how it's like this http://i.imgur.com/pJ1Eciz.png
i declined it
bc like
3->4 in the song
they sound much closer than 1->2
that's why it's stacked
even tho it's all 1/2
[Gabe]
01:11:076 -
i moved it closer bc i actually forgot to do that when i flipped it
http://i.imgur.com/87V1KmA.png

bc 1 is literally 4, except longer
and on the ncs
i really disagree with most of gabe's points
because he's ignoring most of the reasons why i nc'd
such as 00:15:724 -
or 00:19:105 -
00:22:485 -
00:25:865 -
etc
there's ncs based on the rhythm
it's so you can tell what the larger spacing is for
and how i said before
how he suggested ncing on a stack
i still think that's misleading
because of the difficulty
it's supposed to be a normal
and ncing midpattern would be odd at that level
or the fact that there's a nc every new section
00:27:133 - / 00:40:654 - / 00:54:175 - , etc.
[]

If you guys need more answers or else, please contact me, and I'll ask Ayyri.
Thanks!
Irohas
late

insane
  1. 00:27:133 - pk pas essayer de map cette partie différemment pour montrer qu'elle est différente de la précédente, pck comme tu l'as map ça sonne comme si elles étaient similaires s:
  2. 01:08:330 (4,5) - essaie de map les whisltes sur les blue ? car je crois que c'est ce que tu as commencé par follow avec les circles à 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) -
  3. 01:15:091 (4,5) - same ^
hard
  1. 00:51:640 (3) - pourquoi pas mettre un spinner ici aussi? ou à la limite un slider mais en tout cas tu devrais map cet endroit là
[]
c'est tout pour moi glglgl!
Topic Starter
Pachiru

Gabe wrote:

coucou!

General
  1. Don't forget a Preview Point :-) Done!
  2. you dont know me kappa lol.jpg and KnOw ME.jpg are not the same dimension. I know this is not an actual issue, but I still would like to suggest you to have both of these background to have the same dimension! Fixed.
  3. 01:08:541 - On every difficulties, in this section I saw that you are using a custom sampleset which has a custom hitsound attached to it. Since there is a flicking sound at this point in the song, it would be nice if you'd start a clap hitsound consistency with this custom hitsound. You will have to be careful to cover everything in this part!I'll let Ari answer to this.
Hard
  1. 00:03:471 (1) - I like the idea to have the spacing at 0.21x, since there is basically nothing to emphasize. However, most of your other moments like this one are not doing the same thing. Take a look at these objects and try to make them consistent! (00:06:851 (1) - , 00:10:231 (1) - ) Indeed, but since there is a lot of distance in rhythm, I moved it elsewhere, I still hope that's good like this...
  2. 00:15:724 (2,3) - The fact that these two objects are aligned together, it does not allow the flow to be great. The first slider's curvature goes from the left to the right, so it would be a nice idea if the next object would be placed somewhere near the right. I am suggesting you to move the slider (3) at around x: y: Fixed :)
  3. 00:21:217 (3) - There is missing a clap hitsound to this slider's tail to follow the clap consistency.
  4. 00:59:985 (3,4) - It would be nice if these stacked objects were moved to x:156 y:326. It will invite the player to start reaching up to catch the next objects afterward.Fixed!
Great job!

Insane
  1. 00:00:513 (2) - This is just a personal taste, I don't really like when most objects are aligned on the same axis when one of these objects is a slider and the shape does not allow to align with the previous object. In this case, I would recommend to move this slider a little bit at the right, since the curvature of the slider goes at the right. It will also create a better movement with both the previous and the next objects. Moved
  2. 00:41:921 (5) - There is missing a clap hitsound to this slider's beginning point to follow the consistency of your clap hitsounds.
  3. 00:45:196 (4) - This slider is not emphasizing the correct elements of the song. What I mean by this, is that you are not covering the clap sound at 00:45:302 - since the slider goes right over it. I am suggesting you to do something else here. You can follow what you have done previously on 00:41:499 (3,4,5) - since it's technically the same moment. So, in this case, I suggest you to change the rhythm to what it is shown on the picture below. It will keep your main idea of having an object at 00:45:196 - while emphasizing the clap sound at 00:45:302 - :
    On this part of the song, she was focused on the synth, instead of the clap, so that's why it's not mapped. And we both think that's better to keep it like this, otherwise that would look strange compared to the rest of the song.
  4. 00:56:288 (2) - Seems like it wouldn't be terrible to add a whistle hitsound to the beginning of this slider also, it follow the song and your other hitsounds as well. Also, there is a whistle to this slider 01:01:358 (2) - (which is technically the same as this one)
  5. 00:59:668 (2) - A whistle can be added here also, it feels missing since there's basically a whistle every upbeats.
  6. 01:03:048 (2) - You should also add a whistle to this slider. Same reason as the one above.
  7. 01:08:330 (4,5) - The spacing between these two is kind of awkward since you were trying to focus on the blanket only and forgot about the emphasis of the song. As there is no major changes in the intonation of the song, you should actually follow the spacing of your previous objects, which was consistent on a 1,21x spree or else, since there is a flicking sound at this moment, you can even make the spacing even larger. This goes up to you. Absolutely
  8. 01:16:992 (5) - This object's emplacement feels pretty weird as it's aligned with the end of the previous slider. I suggest you to move this slider at around x:116 y:32. It will create a better effect and it will follow the song in a way since there is a flicking sound at this place and you are asking the player to go to the opposite direction quickly. I think that's good enough like this, I moved it a little bit in case, but otherwise, I don't want to move it elsewhere since it plays very well.
  9. 01:17:414 (6) - If you follow the previous suggestion, you will see that this slider will be pretty out of place with the next slider. Either you move this slider and the previous one to make the spacing consistent or else, I can suggest you to do something else: With this slider, move it to x:360 y:100 you could do a CTRL+G to change the starting point of the slider, it will create a little jump with the previous slider and then, with the next slider, you could do a blanket with the starting point of the previous slider. Here is an example: We both decided to not adding spacing in the calm part.
Nice job overall. The rhythm choice, as well as the flows, represents the song greatly :) Thanks for the mod Gabe, it was pretty useful <3

Alheak wrote:

hello

[Insane]
  1. 00:13:823 (2,3) - the way this jump leads into the slider is kinda awkward, try to smooth out the angle of the flow here It plays pretty well, I asked testplays, and nobody had pain on those patterns.
  2. 00:41:921 (5) - rhythmically i feel like it'd be better to have two circles here instead of a slider, 00:42:133 - is quite strong and really tempting to hit while playing Yep
    applies to other similar patterns
  3. 00:45:196 (4) - why is there a 3/4 slider here out of nowhere Cause synth
good luck

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

Hard

00:01:569 (4,4,4,4) - Lower the volume of the reversepoints, it's bit too loud when compared to the first, strong sound right now imo

00:06:006 (5) - Make it consistent with the other similar parts. 00:12:767 (5) - as well, only without the reverse It's better to add diversity

00:19:527 (3) - I can't understand why is this 3/4 since there is just nothing on the reverse point. The sounds are on the red tick before and the white tick is accompanied with a vocal. I would understand something like 3/4 slider into 1/2 for the hold what would make sense vocal wise but the current does not make sense. Applies to all similar sliders in this section Cause I feel like it's better to make it like this, and since this is not a clickable beat, I think that's not a problem for this kind of level. Also, I decided to do this since I'm based on vocals, I feel like in terms of rhythm flow, it's better like this.

00:47:414 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part is just the same vocals four times in a row and the similar drum beats are all over the place so it would be much better to represent it through consistent mapping since now it plays different and has different movement for identical parts I think it's better, the two parts are similr with two different patterns that add diversity, and also, that doesn't bother the game play since there is no difficulty peak.

00:51:640 (3,1) - This is just too fast for this level of difficulty, i can give that the spinner is somewhat predictable but the players still take a short while to react to the spinner Deleted and replaced by a long reverse slider

00:54:175 (1) - I'd suggest making this just a bit slower to give 00:55:865 (1) - more emphasis as the starting object of the new section This is the only pattern in reverse on this part, so I guess that can be emphasize like this.

01:25:443 (3,1) - Pretty much in any other occasion in the kiai the 3/4 reverse slider and the slider after that form some kind of pattern so i'd recommend making something here aswell. For example playing with the curving would look quite nice imo https://puu.sh/xjmxz/90746da0b2.png

Insane

00:01:569 (4,4,4,4) - 00:06:006 (5) - 00:12:767 (5) - Same stuff as in hard

00:19:527 (3,4,5) - Yeah this aswell, the players are not clicking the main beats/vocals which is simply not good All the objects here are based on the voice, I didn't considered the beat for this pattern.

00:47:414 (1,2,3,4) - Since the sounds are similar it'd look more logical if the sliders were similar like here 00:49:105 (1,2,3,4) - I rearenged them

01:07:907 (2,3) - Imo a triple would fit here much better than that. There are few other similar thingys where a triple would be better than 1/2s I don't want to overmap on this part :(

01:16:781 (4,5) - This kind of sharp turn looks kinda awkward when compared to the much more lenient patterns such as 01:13:400 (3,4) - that you seem to be favoring overall for similar parts in the song Rearranged

01:29:457 (6,2) - Structurally speaking it would be better to not have these two stacked, maybe blanket the 2 with 5? It would create pretty much similar somewhat back and forth movement like you have done now

01:32:837 (5,1,3,4) - Idk, i think it would look better if 1 and 4 would be spaced like 5 and 3

No answer means Fixed, otherwise, it's changed in a different way, or declined. Thanks a lot for you mod !
Noice set

Irohas wrote:

late

insane
  1. 00:27:133 - pk pas essayer de map cette partie différemment pour montrer qu'elle est différente de la précédente, pck comme tu l'as map ça sonne comme si elles étaient similaires s:
  2. 01:08:330 (4,5) - essaie de map les whisltes sur les blue ? car je crois que c'est ce que tu as commencé par follow avec les circles à 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) -
  3. 01:15:091 (4,5) - same ^Pas trop compris ton mod, j'ai appliqué des changements tout de même.
hard
  1. 00:51:640 (3) - pourquoi pas mettre un spinner ici aussi? ou à la limite un slider mais en tout cas tu devrais map cet endroit làfixed!
[]
c'est tout pour moi glglgl! Merciiii!!
AdonayOSU
Good :3
Venix
Red means this point is about unrankable thing.

[General]
  1. Since you're using two backgrounds what are you think about getting different combo colors for everyone? It will works better because colors on both of background are others.
  2. What are you think about putting empty sliderslide sound on first section of song (00:00:091 - from here to 00:12:344 - here) because there's just silent melody so sliderslide hears a bit noisy here.
[Metadata]
  1. Artist: marshmello (You should ask metadata QAT about, I'm not 100% sure about but it's based on soundcloud)
  2. Title: KnOw ME
Resources:
  1. Official marshmello soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/marshmellomusic/knowme
[Gabe's Easy]
  1. 00:10:231 (1,2,3,1) - I think you should keep consisent spacing between these objects because it seems a little bit weird on easy diff. // The same 00:44:034 (1,2) - here.
  2. 00:25:443 (2,3,1) - This flow seems a bit uncomfortable for beginners players because angles are very sharp and less comfortable to aim on easy diff. What are you think about something like this instead?
  3. If you have used repeats 01:00:936 (1) - 01:04:316 (1) - on these places so why don't put it 00:57:555 (1,2) - here too, sound is the same but here are two 1/1 sliders instead. For me it doesn't make sense so I prefer change it to repeat like you did on moments highlighted by me before.
[Ayyri's Normal]
  1. 00:04:316 (3,4) - 00:11:076 (3,4) - I know, this is long brake but I still think you should make these spacing consisent
  2. 00:34:950 (6) - It seems like you wasn't focused on this rythm on entire of difficulty. Shouldn't you emphasise rythms on red ticks by making them clickable like you did for example 00:31:569 (6,7) - here?
Topic Starter
Pachiru

Venix wrote:

Red means this point is about unrankable thing.

[General]
  1. Since you're using two backgrounds what are you think about getting different combo colors for everyone? It will works better because colors on both of background are others.Fixed
  2. What are you think about putting empty sliderslide sound on first section of song (00:00:091 - from here to 00:12:344 - here) because there's just silent melody so sliderslide hears a bit noisy here. Fixed
[Metadata]
  1. Artist: marshmello (You should ask metadata QAT about, I'm not 100% sure about but it's based on soundcloud)
  2. Title: KnOw ME
Resources:
  1. Official marshmello soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/marshmellomusic/knowme


I prefered to keep "marshmello" with a big M cause it's more beautiful to see. But still thanks for the precision cause finally, I added "Original Mix"
Aurele

Venix wrote:

[Gabe's Easy]
  1. 00:10:231 (1,2,3,1) - I think you should keep consisent spacing between these objects because it seems a little bit weird on easy diff. (1) // The same 00:44:034 (1,2) - here. (2) // (1) As I was mainly focusing on the slow part here, most things are consistent within each other. The thing that might tricks you is 00:10:231 (1,2) - because they do not have the same snapping as the other ones, which makes the spacing slightly different. However, I was just trying to not make any overlaps with the previous slider and the spacing with the next circle is pretty okay. // (2) I am not sure what you want to say about 00:44:034 (1,2) -, Maybe it's because of the direction? I feel like it is okay as it represent something different in the song by going to the opposite direction.
  2. 00:25:443 (2,3,1) - This flow seems a bit uncomfortable for beginners players because angles are very sharp and less comfortable to aim on easy diff. What are you think about something like this instead? Yeah, good!
  3. If you have used repeats 01:00:936 (1) - 01:04:316 (1) - on these places so why don't put it 00:57:555 (1,2) - here too, sound is the same but here are two 1/1 sliders instead. For me it doesn't make sense so I prefer change it to repeat like you did on moments highlighted by me before. Arranged that!

Alheak wrote:

hello

[Easy]
  1. 01:02:203 (2) - 01:05:583 (2) - 01:12:344 (2) - etc... there's nothing here, map it with a slider end instead if you really wanna keep the 1/2 rhythm but i'd suggest finding something more appropriate for the whole section I took both of you and Venix's suggesting about this and I tried to do something with it. However, I'm just going to keep 01:04:316 (1,2) - that way because I don't want to use 1/1 sliders four times while the first two sliders would represent something different from the next two ones.
good luck

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

Gabe

00:27:133 (1,2,3) - You are kinda merging circular movement (slidertail1|2|sliderhead3) and straight movement (1) in a way that it does not look as good as it could imo. I think you should choose one of them and base the whole pattern around that kind of movement The curved form from the slider (3) introduce the flow on the next slider.
Thanks to you all! Here's my updated version :)

Gabe's Easy
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