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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, September 22, 2017 at 2:00:32 PM

Artist: angela
Title: Zenryoku*Summer! TV Size
Source: アホガール
Tags: aho ahogaru clueless girl anime op opening
BPM: 158
Filesize: 2343kb
Play Time: 00:56
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Vulkin wrote:
ayylmao


Can I be Mitsuho
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Nifty wrote:
Vulkin wrote:
ayylmao

Can I be Mitsuho


sure
ill be takiyaki then
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OK doing ze mod for thanks for the timing or idk for the same song LOL

-Kantan-
00:03:803 (6) - finisher? symbolize start of song (previous was like intro idk)
00:14:436 - having d kdkk 1/1 is ok i think, and it fits
00:36:249 - a d might fit here, wont it?
00:48:021 (38,39,40,41,42) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? at least for new players

-Futsuu-
00:03:044 (6,7,8) - might wanna remove the finishers for those notes, a bit overdoing it, and maybe make 00:03:803 (9) - finisher? seems more worth it
00:09:310 (23) - make this k for variability? different from 00:06:082 - owo
00:19:183 (50) - k so its consistent with 00:16:145 (42) - ?
00:48:021 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? diff is still relatively low

-Muzukashii-
00:04:943 - why not d k ddd k d k k k so the ddd's are consistent with one another? only one kkk in this part is a bit weird imo
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - i dont think its necessary to follow this

-Oni-
00:49:730 (170,171,172,173) - i dont think its necessary to follow this
its very good lol

-Inner Baka Oni-
00:19:563 - ddkkdkd might be better here, theres noise on the empty part
00:49:730 (191,192,193,194) - i dont think its necessary to follow this

good luck for ur map
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Vulkin wrote:
OK doing ze mod for thanks for the timing or idk for the same song LOL

-Kantan-
00:03:803 (6) - finisher? symbolize start of song (previous was like intro idk) ain't nothin different
00:14:436 - having d kdkk 1/1 is ok i think, and it fits 4 1/1s is inconsistent with the rest
00:36:249 - a d might fit here, wont it? sure
00:48:021 (38,39,40,41,42) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol deleted. no slider cause there's nothing to roll on
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? at least for new players it's so spaced it shouldn't matter

-Futsuu-
00:03:044 (6,7,8) - might wanna remove the finishers for those notes, a bit overdoing it, and maybe make 00:03:803 (9) - finisher? seems more worth it the 3 k's can begin appearing here
00:09:310 (23) - make this k for variability? different from 00:06:082 - owo not supported by drums :/
00:19:183 (50) - k so its consistent with 00:16:145 (42) - ? the voice here doesn't support the middle note as much as before, so I make it d
00:48:021 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76) - might want to replace slider from here to 00:49:540 - , ignoring those laughs, i dont think they're necessary to follow in this song anyway lol deleted. no slider cause there's nothing to roll on
00:54:097 - will following those notes with the change of BPM be ok? diff is still relatively low it's a pretty deliberate slowdown, at a slow scroll speed, so it's fine

-Muzukashii-
00:04:943 - why not d k ddd k d k k k so the ddd's are consistent with one another? only one kkk in this part is a bit weird imo oke I did somethin
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - i dont think its necessary to follow this I do

-Oni-
00:49:730 (170,171,172,173) - i dont think its necessary to follow this I do
its very good lol

-Inner Baka Oni-
00:19:563 - ddkkdkd might be better here, theres noise on the empty part not over-complicating it to match the previous vocal phrases
00:49:730 (191,192,193,194) - i dont think its necessary to follow this I do

good luck for ur map


good luck u 2 lol
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Hey, from my modding queue
// = Suggestion
Bold = Needs to change

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I'd punch the HP a bit higher on all diffs, OD:4 for an Inner Oni with less than 400 notes is waaay too easy to pass lol


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Kantan


00:24:477 - This note feels weird here, I'd delete it or move it to 00:23:324
If you moved the note, change 00:22:919 to k
00:26:376 - Shouldn't this be k? Look at 00:38:528 - it's the same sound and it's mapped like kkd

Overall nice diff


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Futsuu


00:09:310 - // Change to k? For a bit of variety and because of drums
00:17:854 - Change to d, voice pitch never changes, also it'd contrast well with

the previous section
00:52:958 (79,80,81,82) - k dkd? Flows way better imo


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Muzukashii


00:02:854 - // Optional, you can remove this to emphasize the finishers
00:17:095 - Change to d? It'd make more sense since (kdk dkd) and then (ddk kkd)
00:26:566 - Change to k? Consistency with 00:38:718 -
00:44:224 (90,91,92,93,94) - kkddk sounds better, as it follows both the vocals and the harp lol
00:52:578 (122,123) - Ctrl+g these


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Oni


Nerf needed?

00:02:379 - You don't really need this note because I'm supposing you're following melody lol
00:12:348 - Change to k? Pitch on melody changes more on the next note than on this
00:17:949 (109,110) - // Opinion, but I think it'd be better if you remove these to emphasize the vocals
00:27:705 - This kind of structure feels really off in this part (xx xxxx regardless of colours), and the song technically doesn't call for it, so I'd change it to odd patterns (triplets or 5plets, as you like)
00:42:895 - ^


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Inner Oni


00:04:278 - Assuming you're following vocals, delete this note since there's a break
00:08:835 - Change to k? It'd flow better into the 1/6
00:35:395 - k? trumpet pls

Not much to say here rip


That's all, good luck! :)
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Midnaait wrote:
Hey, from my modding queue
// = Suggestion
Bold = Needs to change

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General


I'd punch the HP a bit higher on all diffs, OD:4 for an Inner Oni with less than 400 notes is waaay too easy to pass lol


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Kantan


00:24:477 - This note feels weird here, I'd delete it or move it to 00:23:324
If you moved the note, change 00:22:919 to k
00:26:376 - Shouldn't this be k? Look at 00:38:528 - it's the same sound and it's mapped like kkd

Overall nice diff


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Futsuu


00:09:310 - // Change to k? For a bit of variety and because of drums
00:17:854 - Change to d, voice pitch never changes, also it'd contrast well with the previous section gotta love that trumpet sound
00:52:958 (79,80,81,82) - k dkd? Flows way better imo


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Muzukashii


00:02:854 - // Optional, you can remove this to emphasize the finishers
00:17:095 - Change to d? It'd make more sense since (kdk dkd) and then (ddk kkd)
00:26:566 - Change to k? Consistency with 00:38:718 -
00:44:224 (90,91,92,93,94) - kkddk sounds better, as it follows both the vocals and the harp lol
00:52:578 (122,123) - Ctrl+g these


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Oni


Nerf needed?

00:02:379 - You don't really need this note because I'm supposing you're following melody lol
00:12:348 - Change to k? Pitch on melody changes more on the next note than on this
00:17:949 (109,110) - // Opinion, but I think it'd be better if you remove these to emphasize the vocals
00:27:705 - This kind of structure feels really off in this part (xx xxxx regardless of colours), and the song technically doesn't call for it, so I'd change it to odd patterns (triplets or 5plets, as you like)
00:42:895 - ^
Kinda remapped this diff a little big in some places kinda


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Inner Oni


00:04:278 - Assuming you're following vocals, delete this note since there's a break
00:08:835 - Change to k? It'd flow better into the 1/6
00:35:395 - k? trumpet pls

Not much to say here rip hehe yes >:)


That's all, good luck! :)


ty for mod, everything I didn't comment on helped ^^
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Kantan
I can't find anything too wrong here. 4/1 breaks could be more prominent as 2/1 breaks are more common here, but that's the only thing I can really comment abount.


Futsuu
There's nothing here I can say either.


Muzukashii
There's only 1 2/1 break in the song. It's not even a minute, yeah, but still.
00:05:133 (17) - I think getting rid of this note (and repeating the same deletion throughout the intro) sounds better and gives a tiny bit more emphasis on the triplet
00:23:718 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - I think you should map SOMETHING in the futsuu for this, because there's nothing for this in the futsuu but there's notes here. Like 1 or 2 notes would do just fine.
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - there's a timing/snapping issue here because if you slow it down to 25% the notes are not in time with the vocal you're trying to emphasize.


Oni
00:19:753 (113,114,115,116) - This is very clearly a 5 note pattern, not a double + double.
In general, muzu kiai -> oni kiai is also kind of weird in spread, there's only 1/2 in muzu but quite a bit of 1/4 in the regular oni. I suggest finding places similar to the ones in oni to put monocolor 1/4 in the muzu.
00:49:730 (153,154,155,156) - please fix this omg


Inner Oni
00:08:930 (61,62,63,64) - Yeah it might be for effect but it's dumb. It's literally the only 1/6 in the map.
00:44:224 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - Oversaturated, could easily be condensed to something like kkddk d k for the same general effect

ok
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Kantan
I can't find anything too wrong here. 4/1 breaks could be more prominent as 2/1 breaks are more common here, but that's the only thing I can really comment abount. hehe xd


Futsuu
There's nothing here I can say either. gg futsuu easy


Muzukashii
There's only 1 2/1 break in the song. It's not even a minute, yeah, but still.
00:05:133 (17) - I think getting rid of this note (and repeating the same deletion throughout the intro) sounds better and gives a tiny bit more emphasis on the triplet ye ok
00:23:718 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - I think you should map SOMETHING in the futsuu for this, because there's nothing for this in the futsuu but there's notes here. Like 1 or 2 notes would do just fine. there's like 00:22:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this
00:49:730 (112,113,114,115) - there's a timing/snapping issue here because if you slow it down to 25% the notes are not in time with the vocal you're trying to emphasize. yeah, I'm just not gonna map those


Oni
00:19:753 (113,114,115,116) - This is very clearly a 5 note pattern, not a double + double. since the main focus here is vocal, I map here to emphasize the vocal ^^ it reflects well with the previous vocal 00:18:234 (103,104,105,106) - so changing this one which sounds almost identical may seem out of place
In general, muzu kiai -> oni kiai is also kind of weird in spread, there's only 1/2 in muzu but quite a bit of 1/4 in the regular oni. I suggest finding places similar to the ones in oni to put monocolor 1/4 in the muzu.
00:49:730 (153,154,155,156) - please fix this omg remove kebab


Inner Oni
00:08:930 (61,62,63,64) - Yeah it might be for effect but it's dumb. It's literally the only 1/6 in the map. I like it there, it's not hard to play, and it ain't my fault angela only used that conga flair once in the song
00:44:224 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - Oversaturated, could easily be condensed to something like kkddk d k for the same general effect u got me there

ok


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Hi, small mod from queue due to lack of free time


Futsuu
Move 00:37:768 (42) - to 00:38:528 (44) - and change it to d!


Oni
Making two doubles instead of 00:52:009 (159,160,161,162) - ?


Inner
Test this in 00:08:930 (61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68) -

Hope it helps a little

edit: I did not do this "quickly", I seriously take my time but I dont have more to view Muzu correctly, sorry. Kantan is fine
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Hi, small mod from queue due to lack of free time


Futsuu
Move 00:37:768 (42) - to 00:38:528 (44) - and change it to d! I'm not sure what this means, so no.


Oni
Making two doubles instead of 00:52:009 (159,160,161,162) - ? Also not sure what this means, doubles where? there's no rhythm that has doubles.


Inner
Test this in 00:08:930 (61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68) - 1/4 to 1/6 to 1/3? I'm mapping to vocals here, the 1/6th is for effect in part of the congas.

Hope it helps a little

edit: I did not do this "quickly", I seriously take my time but I dont have more to view Muzu correctly, sorry. Kantan is fine


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short IRC "mod" with Nifty deny me all you want bitch xd

Look here.
2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: test
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: OWO
2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: okay great uh
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: HI IRC LOG
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: first lemme check metadata and shit
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: i think it should be fine...
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: you know what you should do is do it over discord and then screenshot it all and post it
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: no because that takes way too much effort and way too many screenshots
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: if it isn't fine I'm shooting myself in the foot with a blowdart
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: I'll just get the log transcript
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: also if you're gonna have op put opening in tags I guess
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: just helps with arbitrary searching
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: what if i just delete all the tags like a nofool map
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: then i will not care
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: ok cool
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: okay now for actual shit
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: given that the song is really really short, i'd propose increasing the HP on every diff by 1 (6-6-7-8-9) or, alternatively...
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: make Kantan-Muzu OD 3-4-4.5?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: or something?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: kantan doesn't need to be od2 even if it is that easy
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: what if i just made kanta nand futsuu the same
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: nah because Futsuu is noticeably harder
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: also owo hp 9
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: or maybe just make k-m 0.5 higher instead
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: idk
2017-09-04 11:03 Dain: aight anyways
2017-09-04 11:03 Nifty: changed to 3 4 4.5 ye
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: 00:02:284 (8,9,10,11,12) - I find this pattern to be a bit weird, I'm listening to it and it sounds a little more like xx xxxx rather than xxxxx
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: like, the drummy sounds are way more emphasised on 00:02:284 (8,9) - and 00:02:569 (11,12) - than 00:02:474 (10) -
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: in fact removing 00:02:474 (10) - would give more emphasis for that rather than blending in together
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: imo
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: try it
2017-09-04 11:05 Nifty: mhm it was like that earlier
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: what made ya change it
2017-09-04 11:06 Nifty: but removing the 10 reveals a pretty noticeable sound
2017-09-04 11:06 Dain: it's noticeable sure but it gets drowned out a little
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: eh I removed it because offfffff
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: 00:19:943 -
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: 00:19:943 - has an actual swish sound though that's very noticeable
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: implying a k
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: in fact it's like the main thing
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: i can't hear such a sound back at the beginning
2017-09-04 11:08 Nifty: consistency with vocals ecks dee
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: anyways
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: 00:05:322 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - i'd suggest making this bit of the stream a bit more don-heavy than the other half, by which i mean maybe add one or two more dons instead of kats
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: because the overall pitch of the vocals (not sure about instrumentation) seems a bit
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: lower
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: i'm assuming you're focusing on vocals here right
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: the kats are mapped the the emphasized vocal rhythm
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: there's noticeable emphasis on the beats the kats are on
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: mhm
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: 00:05:797 (36) - but this bit i'm not sure about
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: maybe the runover from the instrumentation but like
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: you could emphasise that bit more by just having the one kat instead of 2 imo
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: yeah it goes guru guru or whatever right
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: one guru is higher than the other mhm
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: yeah, but the "ru" in the first one
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: is lower
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: it goes high-medlow-medium-low
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: kinda
2017-09-04 11:12 Nifty: and the gu on the next one is even lower tho
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: yes
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: that's why medlow -> low
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: 00:09:215 (64) - a similar thing here actually
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: the drum thing goes k d k there
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: so kkddk for the fill is what goes there
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:14 Dain: that's fine
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: 00:13:392 (97) - this one feels like it should be a don too imo but my second thought is the vocals, because there's kind of like a mix here?
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: the instrumentation kinda suggests d but the vocals suggest k?
2017-09-04 11:15 Nifty: ye so it doesn't matter
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: but given how there's like a mix between the two styles here i don't know if i can really call this a suggestion and more of a "what do you think"
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: I think it'll play either way being the streams are so slow
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: wow that's a new way to spell because
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: LOL
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - I'd say definitely don here because the drum from earlier is more deep and resonating, plus it contrasts with 00:16:715 (122) - where it's significantly higher pitch
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: also vocals get lower
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: high drum, high vocals, k / deep drum, low vocals, d
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: ye?
2017-09-04 11:17 Nifty: fine I switched them
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: no I mean
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:16:715 (122) - this stays as k
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - this becomes d
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: or are you on about something else here?
2017-09-04 11:19 Nifty: nah dkk ddk because the vocals deserve emphasis, not pitch relevance
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: alright
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: that's cool
2017-09-04 11:20 Nifty: the rest work that way anyways lel
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: that sounds pretty good to me
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: 00:22:783 (3) - what about this one?
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: because it sounds kinda similar to 2
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: was thinking it could be k, unless you wanted to have like
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: only the very highest pitch be k
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: in that
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: it's the same note as 1
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: :think:
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: oh yeah durr
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: bazinga
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: i was focused on 2 too much lmao
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: b a z i n g a
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: this mod is gonna be thicc mami but it's just us saying bazinga
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: kds denied
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: xd
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: 00:38:148 (100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - again was thinking that this stream could be represented differently unless you wanted to specifically focus on the drum
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: the trumpet
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: it sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: i removed it and it still sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: trumpet is the only moving part there so emphasis to it mhm
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: there's like 2 bits where the trumpet was playing and the other bits were like
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: backing instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: but in general the b.i. is like that yeah
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I mean taiko is a drum game
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: you wanna keep it like that?
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I like the pattern
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: meh
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: it's a harmless pattern so i'm not concerned about how it looks
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: i think this might be the last thing but
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: 00:49:445 - was considering about adding a note here because there seems to be like this sound that's just absent in the map
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: even playtesting it where the taiko notes should drown it out
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: it doesn't fully do that so it sounds a bit empty
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: that's because there's no sound there
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: no there is a sound, even if it's just the runover from the previous instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: i'm listening to it and I can definitely hear that
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: it's a cutoff which is lame and ending a stream on a blue tick is wonky as hell
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: especially with the rest of the map being on whites and reds
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: well I mean this is the only time the song does this anyways
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: just like how there was 1 instance of 1/3s
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: not saying that justifies the note fully but like
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: was just thinking about it like that
2017-09-04 11:28 Nifty: yeah people will miss it thinking the stream ends normally when it doesn't
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: also that cymbal cuts off on the white tick so
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: i'm inclined to disagree with that given that people who play onis such as this
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: would be used to more unorthodox patterns
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: and would have semi-proficient reading at medium bpm
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: eh but there's no sound
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: if you want to leave that bit for sound purposes that's fine but it wouldn't make the map hard in any way
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: imo that's a bit disingenuous to imply
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: and the stream cuts off with the last drum hit
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: ye
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: i suppose
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: either way though that is indeed the last thing I feel like commenting on in that
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: onii
2017-09-04 11:31 Dain: actually no i have another thing and that would be just to double check the timing particularly at the end, i swear one or two notes sound slightly late
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: 00:56:347 (218) - like this sounds a tiny bit late relative to 00:55:864 (217) -
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: actually no wait
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: i'm a dumbass because i accidentally did something weird
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: nvm
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: yee
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: good to know that i haven't changed in the 5 years i've played this game
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: anyways given that this map is actually, you know
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: it will sound late on 25% because the perceived beat it later than the actual beat
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: competent
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: and the fact that i wanna do something important right now
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: i trust that the lower diffs are all kinda good
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: owo
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: this is really all i have to say for now so uhhh
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: nice 1 diff mod kds DENIED
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: sorry to disappoint LOL
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: D E N I E D
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: I'll be banking that KD like a mofo tyvm xdddd
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short IRC "mod" with Nifty deny me all you want bitch xd

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2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: test
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: OWO
2017-09-04 10:58 Dain: okay great uh
2017-09-04 10:58 Nifty: HI IRC LOG
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: first lemme check metadata and shit
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: i think it should be fine...
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: you know what you should do is do it over discord and then screenshot it all and post it
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: no because that takes way too much effort and way too many screenshots
2017-09-04 10:59 Nifty: if it isn't fine I'm shooting myself in the foot with a blowdart
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: I'll just get the log transcript
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: also if you're gonna have op put opening in tags I guess
2017-09-04 10:59 Dain: just helps with arbitrary searching
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: what if i just delete all the tags like a nofool map
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: then i will not care
2017-09-04 11:00 Nifty: ok cool
2017-09-04 11:00 Dain: okay now for actual shit
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: given that the song is really really short, i'd propose increasing the HP on every diff by 1 (6-6-7-8-9) or, alternatively...
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: make Kantan-Muzu OD 3-4-4.5?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: or something?
2017-09-04 11:01 Dain: kantan doesn't need to be od2 even if it is that easy
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: what if i just made kanta nand futsuu the same
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: nah because Futsuu is noticeably harder
2017-09-04 11:02 Nifty: also owo hp 9
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: or maybe just make k-m 0.5 higher instead
2017-09-04 11:02 Dain: idk
2017-09-04 11:03 Dain: aight anyways
2017-09-04 11:03 Nifty: changed to 3 4 4.5 ye
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: 00:02:284 (8,9,10,11,12) - I find this pattern to be a bit weird, I'm listening to it and it sounds a little more like xx xxxx rather than xxxxx
2017-09-04 11:04 Dain: like, the drummy sounds are way more emphasised on 00:02:284 (8,9) - and 00:02:569 (11,12) - than 00:02:474 (10) -
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: in fact removing 00:02:474 (10) - would give more emphasis for that rather than blending in together
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: imo
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: try it
2017-09-04 11:05 Nifty: mhm it was like that earlier
2017-09-04 11:05 Dain: what made ya change it
2017-09-04 11:06 Nifty: but removing the 10 reveals a pretty noticeable sound
2017-09-04 11:06 Dain: it's noticeable sure but it gets drowned out a little
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: eh I removed it because offfffff
2017-09-04 11:07 Nifty: 00:19:943 -
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: 00:19:943 - has an actual swish sound though that's very noticeable
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: implying a k
2017-09-04 11:07 Dain: in fact it's like the main thing
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: i can't hear such a sound back at the beginning
2017-09-04 11:08 Nifty: consistency with vocals ecks dee
2017-09-04 11:08 Dain: anyways
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: 00:05:322 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - i'd suggest making this bit of the stream a bit more don-heavy than the other half, by which i mean maybe add one or two more dons instead of kats
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: because the overall pitch of the vocals (not sure about instrumentation) seems a bit
2017-09-04 11:09 Dain: lower
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: i'm assuming you're focusing on vocals here right
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: the kats are mapped the the emphasized vocal rhythm
2017-09-04 11:10 Nifty: there's noticeable emphasis on the beats the kats are on
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: mhm
2017-09-04 11:10 Dain: 00:05:797 (36) - but this bit i'm not sure about
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: maybe the runover from the instrumentation but like
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: you could emphasise that bit more by just having the one kat instead of 2 imo
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: yeah it goes guru guru or whatever right
2017-09-04 11:11 Nifty: one guru is higher than the other mhm
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: yeah, but the "ru" in the first one
2017-09-04 11:11 Dain: is lower
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: it goes high-medlow-medium-low
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: kinda
2017-09-04 11:12 Nifty: and the gu on the next one is even lower tho
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: yes
2017-09-04 11:12 Dain: that's why medlow -> low
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: 00:09:215 (64) - a similar thing here actually
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: the drum thing goes k d k there
2017-09-04 11:13 Nifty: so kkddk for the fill is what goes there
2017-09-04 11:13 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:14 Dain: that's fine
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: 00:13:392 (97) - this one feels like it should be a don too imo but my second thought is the vocals, because there's kind of like a mix here?
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: the instrumentation kinda suggests d but the vocals suggest k?
2017-09-04 11:15 Nifty: ye so it doesn't matter
2017-09-04 11:15 Dain: but given how there's like a mix between the two styles here i don't know if i can really call this a suggestion and more of a "what do you think"
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: I think it'll play either way being the streams are so slow
2017-09-04 11:16 Nifty: wow that's a new way to spell because
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:16 Dain: LOL
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - I'd say definitely don here because the drum from earlier is more deep and resonating, plus it contrasts with 00:16:715 (122) - where it's significantly higher pitch
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: also vocals get lower
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: high drum, high vocals, k / deep drum, low vocals, d
2017-09-04 11:17 Dain: ye?
2017-09-04 11:17 Nifty: fine I switched them
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: no I mean
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:16:715 (122) - this stays as k
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: 00:17:095 (125) - this becomes d
2017-09-04 11:18 Dain: or are you on about something else here?
2017-09-04 11:19 Nifty: nah dkk ddk because the vocals deserve emphasis, not pitch relevance
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: alright
2017-09-04 11:19 Dain: that's cool
2017-09-04 11:20 Nifty: the rest work that way anyways lel
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: yeah
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: that sounds pretty good to me
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: 00:22:783 (3) - what about this one?
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: because it sounds kinda similar to 2
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: was thinking it could be k, unless you wanted to have like
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: only the very highest pitch be k
2017-09-04 11:20 Dain: in that
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: it's the same note as 1
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: :think:
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: oh yeah durr
2017-09-04 11:21 Nifty: bazinga
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: i was focused on 2 too much lmao
2017-09-04 11:21 Dain: b a z i n g a
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: this mod is gonna be thicc mami but it's just us saying bazinga
2017-09-04 11:22 Nifty: kds denied
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: xd
2017-09-04 11:22 Dain: 00:38:148 (100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - again was thinking that this stream could be represented differently unless you wanted to specifically focus on the drum
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: the trumpet
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: it sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Dain: i removed it and it still sounded drummy
2017-09-04 11:23 Nifty: trumpet is the only moving part there so emphasis to it mhm
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: there's like 2 bits where the trumpet was playing and the other bits were like
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: backing instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: but in general the b.i. is like that yeah
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I mean taiko is a drum game
2017-09-04 11:24 Dain: you wanna keep it like that?
2017-09-04 11:24 Nifty: I like the pattern
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: meh
2017-09-04 11:25 Dain: it's a harmless pattern so i'm not concerned about how it looks
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: i think this might be the last thing but
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: 00:49:445 - was considering about adding a note here because there seems to be like this sound that's just absent in the map
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: even playtesting it where the taiko notes should drown it out
2017-09-04 11:26 Dain: it doesn't fully do that so it sounds a bit empty
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: that's because there's no sound there
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: no there is a sound, even if it's just the runover from the previous instrumentation
2017-09-04 11:27 Dain: i'm listening to it and I can definitely hear that
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: it's a cutoff which is lame and ending a stream on a blue tick is wonky as hell
2017-09-04 11:27 Nifty: especially with the rest of the map being on whites and reds
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: well I mean this is the only time the song does this anyways
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: just like how there was 1 instance of 1/3s
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: not saying that justifies the note fully but like
2017-09-04 11:28 Dain: was just thinking about it like that
2017-09-04 11:28 Nifty: yeah people will miss it thinking the stream ends normally when it doesn't
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: also that cymbal cuts off on the white tick so
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: i'm inclined to disagree with that given that people who play onis such as this
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: would be used to more unorthodox patterns
2017-09-04 11:29 Dain: and would have semi-proficient reading at medium bpm
2017-09-04 11:29 Nifty: eh but there's no sound
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: if you want to leave that bit for sound purposes that's fine but it wouldn't make the map hard in any way
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: imo that's a bit disingenuous to imply
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: and the stream cuts off with the last drum hit
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: ye
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: i suppose
2017-09-04 11:30 Dain: either way though that is indeed the last thing I feel like commenting on in that
2017-09-04 11:30 Nifty: onii
2017-09-04 11:31 Dain: actually no i have another thing and that would be just to double check the timing particularly at the end, i swear one or two notes sound slightly late
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: 00:56:347 (218) - like this sounds a tiny bit late relative to 00:55:864 (217) -
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: actually no wait
2017-09-04 11:32 Dain: i'm a dumbass because i accidentally did something weird
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: nvm
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: yee
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: good to know that i haven't changed in the 5 years i've played this game
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: anyways given that this map is actually, you know
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: it will sound late on 25% because the perceived beat it later than the actual beat
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: competent
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: and the fact that i wanna do something important right now
2017-09-04 11:33 Dain: i trust that the lower diffs are all kinda good
2017-09-04 11:33 Nifty: owo
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: this is really all i have to say for now so uhhh
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: nice 1 diff mod kds DENIED
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: sorry to disappoint LOL
2017-09-04 11:34 Nifty: D E N I E D
2017-09-04 11:34 Dain: I'll be banking that KD like a mofo tyvm xdddd


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hi, quick comments on timing
00:22:120 - the barline in this section should go here; the way you currently have the barlines makes it seem like the bar starting at 00:20:524 - is in 5/4 and the bar at 00:22:525 - is in 3/4, while the entire song is in constant 4/4. in order to fix this you'll need another timing point here
once this gets corrected, the exact timing here isn't a problem since you just go over everything with a spinner, but i'd poke a couple other bns just to be sure
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