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22:25 Gabe: Let's do this again. If there is anything you don't agree with, tell me and explain.
22:27 Gabe: 00:10:275 (30) - This don right here, it feels like it wouldn't belong here as it is not emphasizing the sounds you were previously following. Then, coming to 00:10:453 (31,32,33,34) - , I feel like there is missing something to emphasize the little sounds.. (I don't know how to call them lol)
22:27 Gabe: 00:10:810 - I suggest you to move the don right here instead
22:29 Gabe: 00:24:382 - At this moment, it's the only difficulty that has no note. A kat would be pretty nice as the first two difficulties has one.
22:29 Stingy: Okay uhm
22:29 Stingy: Pause please ;w;
22:29 Gabe: Yeah, no probs
22:30 Stingy: There's a snare on (30) u^u that's why I mapped it like that
22:30 Stingy: I ALWAYS map drums first
22:30 Stingy: I SPECIFICALLY told Cracy
22:30 Stingy: "I'm going to prioritise all drum sounds first"
22:32 Gabe: oh yeah, I get it now
22:33 Gabe: in this case
22:33 Gabe: keep it, but add a don anyways
22:33 Gabe: it's not too long, anyways
22:33 Stingy: o?
22:33 Gabe: (I mean, 7 notes in Muzu isn't too long)
22:33 Gabe: ((double checked with Cracy))
22:33 Stingy: ;w; b-but
22:33 Stingy: aaaaa okay
22:33 Gabe: it's okay if you don't want it tho
22:33 Gabe: lol
22:33 Gabe: I'm just suggesting
22:35 Gabe: alright
22:35 Gabe: let's keep going
22:35 Gabe: 00:24:382 - At this moment, it's the only difficulty that has no note. A kat would be pretty nice as the first two difficulties has one.
22:35 Stingy: yjup
22:35 Stingy: fixed those
22:35 Stingy: I put in the next measure as well
22:36 Gabe: great
22:36 Gabe: 00:25:810 - I would add a kat as well
22:37 Gabe: wait
22:37 Gabe: "I put in the next measure as well"
22:37 Stingy: ,_,
22:37 Gabe: were you talking about this one
22:37 Gabe: LMAO
22:37 Stingy: Yes xDDD
22:37 Gabe: l m a o
22:37 Gabe: sorry
22:37 Gabe: ok so
22:38 Stingy: so
22:38 Gabe: 00:26:525 (5) - at this point, you could just copy the last 4 notes here?
22:38 Stingy: This one is kinda confusing to explain
22:39 Stingy: The reason I have this section mapped like this:
22:39 Stingy: I'm following the piano chords
22:39 Stingy: 00:23:668 (1,3,5) -
22:39 Stingy: there is no chord switch until 00:26:525 (5) -
22:40 Gabe: that's getting too complicated for me LMAO
22:40 Gabe: I don't hear the piano ;_;
22:40 Stingy: the 80s-style synth thing
22:40 Stingy: like something you would hear while you're high
22:40 Gabe: LMAO
22:40 Stingy: ;w;
22:41 Stingy: 00:29:025 (7) - hey im gonna change this to a d
22:41 Stingy: for c o n s i s t e n c y
22:41 Gabe: that was my next suggestion
22:41 Gabe: LMAO
22:42 Stingy: OWO wew
22:42 Stingy: stingpsychic
22:42 Stingy: Psyngy :thinking:
22:44 Gabe: 00:46:882 (45,46,47) - what's your opinion of this?
22:44 Gabe: I feel like a simple ddk would be better
22:44 Gabe: (the k to emphasize your snares)
22:44 Stingy: I agree
22:44 Stingy: the only reason I did that
22:44 Stingy: was so people didn't shoot me for copy/pasting 00:35:096 (1,2,3) -
22:44 Stingy: so I added a note
22:45 Stingy: ;w;w;w;w;
22:45 Stingy: if I wanted it MY way, I wouldn't have a note at all
22:45 Stingy: But there's also a "hey" vocal on it
22:46 Stingy: now that I listen again :thinking: :ear:
22:46 Gabe: yeah, I heard that one too..
22:46 Stingy: NO I CAN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE
22:46 Stingy: 00:48:310 -
22:46 Stingy: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
22:46 Gabe: rip
22:46 Stingy: fffff okay changed xD
22:47 Stingy: let me see if there's one in the nefxt kiai
22:47 Stingy: there is. fixed!~
22:48 Stingy: fixed a consistency issue in the ending of the map
22:49 Stingy: 02:37:953 -
22:49 Stingy: some of the spinners didn't match
22:49 Stingy: I mapped the last 3 notes on both of my diffs
22:56 Gabe: 01:02:775 (24) - 
22:56 Gabe: ugu
22:56 Gabe: 01:02:060 (20) - same sound as this
22:56 Gabe: ugu
22:56 Stingy: oops hold on
22:56 Stingy: testing map
22:56 Stingy: aaaa
23:00 Stingy: a ok back
23:00 Gabe: (I'd say to keep it as a d anyways)
23:00 Gabe: cause it plays better :>
23:00 Stingy: =w=
23:01 Stingy: Gabe, I follow d r u m s
23:01 Stingy: I literally went through the ENTIRE SONG
23:01 Stingy: mapped JUST the drums
23:01 Stingy: then mapped the rest
23:01 Stingy: that's how I map xD
23:01 Gabe: sweet
23:02 Stingy: ;w; "sweet"
23:06 Gabe: yeah, I'm done for Muzu
23:06 Stingy: okie
23:06 Stingy: You don't have to do the rest unless you want
23:06 Stingy: thanks uwu~
23:07 Gabe: also, CHANGE YOUR BACKGROUND
23:07 Gabe: FFS LMAO
23:07 Stingy: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
23:07 Stingy: WHAT DO YOU MEAN
23:07 Stingy: MY BG IS LIT AS FRICK
23:07 Gabe: OF COURSE
23:07 Gabe: CAUSE IT'S HATSUNE MIKU
23:07 Gabe: LMAO
23:07 Stingy: EW LMAO I DIDN'T NOTICE
23:07 Gabe: what
23:08 Stingy: EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE TITLE OF THE PICTURE
23:08 Stingy: :THINKING    :
23:08 Gabe: wait
23:08 Gabe: u joking right
23:08 Gabe: LMAO
23:09 Stingy: wh-wha
23:10 Stingy: ;;
23:10 Stingy: finding a new one oWo right now
23:10 Stingy: "anime girl with soda"
23:10 Gabe: y  e  s
23:11 Stingy: very disappointed
23:11 Gabe: or use a pikachu background
23:11 Stingy: OMG
23:11 Gabe: somewhere in the song, it says "PIKA"
23:11 Gabe: jkkk don't
23:11 Gabe: LMAO
23:12 Stingy: LOL
23:12 Stingy: T O O  L A T E
23:12 Gabe: FUCK
23:13 Stingy: oh also
23:13 Stingy: do you get the unused file thing?
23:13 Gabe: uh?
23:16 Stingy: wdym uh
23:16 Stingy: also finding a bg is hard
23:16 Stingy: I don't want an underwater anime girl
23:16 Gabe: lol
23:16 Stingy: everyone uses an underwater anime girl
23:16 Gabe: use a ground anime girl then
23:16 Stingy: uwuwuwu n-no u
23:17 Gabe: [http://konachan.net/post/show/250887/lluluchwan-long_hair-original-seifuku-signed-sky-s this is cute]
23:18 Stingy: o I agree
23:19 Stingy: I feel like it isn't like... "happy" enough, you know?
23:19 Gabe: yeah, that's why I kept looking :p
23:19 Stingy: same
23:19 Stingy: I think I'm going to just do "anime girl with candy"
23:19 Stingy: - _           -
23:22 Stingy: ooooo I found a cute one that kinda fits osu!
23:22 Gabe: o:
23:23 Stingy: http://www.wallpapermaiden.com/wallpaper/4065/anime-girl-candy-school-uniform-navel/download/1920x1200
23:23 Gabe: ooooooo
23:23 Gabe: it's so cute
23:23 Stingy: pink and green are the colours of Mocha's hair, right?
23:24 Stingy: [http://www.wallpaperup.com/865622/anime_girl_animal_blue_hair_blush_cake_christmas_flower_food_happy_heart_purple_eyes_short_hair_skirt_stars_stuffed_animal_sweets_teddy_thigh_highs_tree_twin_tails_underwater_vehicle.html boop]
23:24 Stingy: or this one
23:24 Stingy: has f o o d oWo
23:25 Gabe: the first one is better
23:25 Gabe: :3c
23:25 Stingy: okai bAKKU GUROUNDU... CHANGU
23:26 *Stingy waits for his internet to load the picture
23:26 Stingy: CHARUJING UUUUUP
23:27 Gabe: LMAO
23:27 *Stingy yells louder
23:28 Stingy: STIRU CHARUJING UUUUUUUUP
23:29 Stingy: BAKKU GUROUNDU CHANJU
23:29 Stingy: ok finally
23:30 Stingy: nice ok changed
23:30 Gabe: this looks so happy
23:31 Stingy: lol
23:31 Gabe: mkay so
23:31 Gabe: open the .osu file of every difficulties, except Ayyri
23:32 Gabe: you'll have to look up at the [Events] and change the last value of the bg file
23:32 Gabe: https://gabe.s-ul.eu/yKjxgUvO
23:32 Gabe: Your background will look like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9171895 this] while playing
23:35 Stingy: qejlfnloqefn
23:36 Stingy: s-ul
23:36 Stingy: rip
23:36 Gabe: .
23:36 Gabe: f u c k
23:36 Gabe: 0,0,"bg.png",0,111
23:36 Gabe: here
23:36 Stingy: hype
23:37 Stingy: Why 111? Why not 110? It's an even number :thinking:
23:37 Gabe: i found it nice
23:37 Gabe: lol
23:38 Stingy: updating again uwuwuw
23:38 Stingy: done updating again
23:45 Gabe: gm
23:45 Gabe: hm
23:45 Gabe: how to send u pictures
23:46 Stingy: puush
23:46 Stingy: kek
23:46 Gabe: i dont have puush
23:46 Gabe: ._.
23:46 Gabe: k one sec
23:47 Stingy: omfg
23:47 Stingy: why do you need to send
23:47 Stingy: aaa
23:47 Gabe: your bg is too big
23:47 Gabe: in file
23:47 Gabe: lol
23:49 Stingy: eflnqfnqejlfnqelf
23:49 Gabe: https://puu.sh/xIf9J/b3a3edb7c2.jpg
23:49 Stingy: what does that even mean
23:49 Gabe: well
23:50 Gabe: your current bg is 2,05mb
23:50 Gabe: I made it drop to 381kb
23:50 Stingy: ok?
23:50 Stingy: =w= why does it matter h
23:50 Gabe: it doesn't really matter
23:50 Gabe: but ayy
23:50 Gabe: why not doing it
23:50 Stingy: updating agaaaaaiiiiinn
23:53 Stingy: updated
23:53 Stingy: xD
23:54 Gabe: I think Muzu is fucked up
23:54 Stingy: wh-...
23:54 Stingy: ;w;
23:54 Gabe: it asks me to update it
23:54 Gabe: if I click on it
23:54 Stingy: oh shit
23:55 Stingy: me too
23:55 Stingy: o.O
23:55 Gabe: it deletes everything
23:56 Stingy: okay try again ;w;
23:56 Stingy: ?
23:56 Gabe: still doing it
23:56 Gabe: lol
23:56 Stingy: wtf
23:57 Stingy: efnqjfqlefnqef
23:57 Stingy: says latest pending for me
23:57 Stingy: wait
23:57 Stingy: no actually update it
23:57 Stingy: I updated it again xD
23:58 Gabe: ;_;
23:58 Gabe: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9171982
23:58 Gabe: still
23:58 Stingy: ejqeofijqeofhqef
23:58 Stingy: Nuuuuuhhhh
23:58 Stingy: - _      -
23:58 Stingy: redl?
23:59 Gabe: I'm don
23:59 Gabe: e
00:01 Gabe: hm, not sure that would be the cause but
00:01 Gabe: you have 'bg.png' and 'bgg.jpg'
00:02 Gabe: ..........
00:02 Gabe: WTF
00:02 Gabe: IT IS THE CAUSE
00:02 Stingy: LOL
00:02 Stingy: WHAT
00:02 Stingy: OMFG
00:02 Stingy: LET ME JUST
00:02 Gabe: DELETE BG.PNG
00:02 Gabe: IT FIXES IT
00:02 Gabe: LMAO
00:02 Stingy: IT DIDN'T TELL ME THERE WAS AN UNUSED FILE
00:03 Stingy: UPLOADING A G A I N
00:03 Gabe: its the last time for now
00:03 Gabe: if its working
00:08 Gabe: I'm done
00:08 Gabe: it's not working


okay so, I will be bubbling the moment we find out what's the issue with the Muzukashii.
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hahay i see 👀

im giggled when seeing my avatar plus that :eyes:, yeh I will chekc it cuz nice bg wooggghhhhh stupud reasons

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okay what happens now lol, 2 stars icon and bubbled status.


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Upon review of the NEW muzukashii (and revisiting the spread issue), things have improved immensely, and no NEEDED changes are needed anymore. On behalf of both me and Gabe, I believe this set is ready.
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hi

who are you leave me alone unless you're going to mod one of my other sets :eyes:
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For those who noticed I quickly revoked the bubble, an irc discussion with JBHyperion is below. It most likely will answer all your questions. Apologies.

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JBHyperion - Today at 8:36 PM
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6272177
what happened here
Stefan asked me what to do
because bubble is missing from your post
did you edit icon?
y'know when someone says "I need to talk to you" I don't really expect them to afk on me
:rolling_eyes:
Taikocracy - Today at 8:42 PM
Sorry sorry
My parents are kind of a thing that yell at me
JBHyperion - Today at 8:42 PM
apologies
Taikocracy - Today at 8:42 PM
My sincerest apologies, was indeed rude
So okay
I was walking Stingy through how to (possibly) fix the Muzukashii
In its current state, it wipes everything if you click update to latest version
After he finished updating, he said the issue was fixed, and it was fixed for me too
So I went ahead and bubbled it
After that I notice that I'm getting the message again, and I ask him if he's getting the issue too
JBHyperion - Today at 8:47 PM
and then?
Taikocracy - Today at 8:47 PM
And he said he was, so (quite honestly) I panicked and edited the icon since it was only just set like 8 minutes prior (sorry I keep tabbing to talk to Stingy)
End of story
Don't know why the issue was fixed one moment but broken the next
JBHyperion - Today at 8:48 PM
did you ask anyone else to check besides the mapper?
Taikocracy - Today at 8:48 PM
Gabe had checked it before I did like 44 hours ago, but not after the issue was "fixed," no
JBHyperion - Today at 8:49 PM
alright so two points to note for future reference
1) don't edit icons
ever
it's a pain in the ass to keep track of them
if you change your mind or find something that needs fixing, make a new post with a pop
it's as much to cover your ass as it is to keep good records
say the map got qualified and someone were to look through that thread
and all they see is the heart icon
2nd BN might not know because the top post still showed as bubbled
it's just easier for everyone if all icons are logged properly in a new post
nobody would complain if you decide you want to pop your own bubble, these things can happen
anyway
2) ask for help when you're not sure about things
I would much rather people ask and get things right than not ask and got them wrong
Taikocracy - Today at 8:54 PM
Yeah I understand, I just panicked and all and.. well yeah I panicked and didn't think rationally
JBHyperion - Today at 8:54 PM
it's fine, I know the feeling since I was in your position once :p
just some help for next time


"Popping" to solve the Muzukashii Mystery that I thought was already solved. Sorry for all the confusion!
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Congratz Stingy on bubble :)

Woops ;w;
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Pachiru wrote:
Congratz Stingy on bubble :)

Woops ;w;


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Gabe wrote:
okay so, I will be bubbling the moment we find out what's the issue with the Muzukashii.

surprising the issue is still around :thinking:
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haven't extensively tested this, but it seems like changing the diffname works. if you wanna keep the old one, gotta have to wait a few days before reverting back to the original and it should be fine to update.
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haven't extensively tested this, but it seems like changing the diffname works. if you wanna keep the old one, gotta have to wait a few days before reverting back to the original and it should be fine to update.

we have a plan for diffnamed but I just think it’s totally bizarre that this is happening lol
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Follow up mod post, I really like the diff names now-mostly spread things, as most of the notes and rhythms are fine as is (btw I recommend Diet Futsuu instead of Futsuu Lite)


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These are fine as is :)


Muzukashii
00:48:489 (53) - I recommend deleting this note or adding it to the Oni as well, as this note is absent from the Oni
01:37:239 (66,67,68) - Add some more here, what's plotted in the Oni is completely different than what's here
02:29:382 (1) - end - Density in the Oni ramps up a LOT, I highly recommend focusing on the same background noise that you focused on in the Oni here too, especially because this part is the exact same thing as the Futsuu pattern.


Oni
00:23:668 - 00:29:382 - Spread from Muzukashii -> here is a little bit too big, other diffs including the muzukashii have absolutely no 1/4 here, while the Oni is covered in it. I recommend either adding some triplets in the muzu to match the ones in the oni, or decreasing the density of the oni in this section.
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00:43:310 (68) - Don't see the need to make these finishers, especially as it takes away emphasis from 00:43:668 (70) -
00:47:685 (89) - Delete this note to keep consistent with all other repetitions of this pattern, i.e. 00:36:168 (32,33,34,35) - or 00:41:882 (61,62,63,64) - .

Call me back when everything is a-ok
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I think the diff names just killed me LMAO
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  • Flip bg horizontally so the lady's face is visible from song selection.
  • Please check your snapping, it seems that some notes are unsnapped.

Kantan
  • this is so light, please change OD to 2.5
  • 01:52:239 (2) - consider d, that piano pitch is falling
  • 01:57:953 (5,6) - consider d k to differentiate as you're going into the drums here

Muzukashii
  • 00:23:668 - 50% is too quiet here imho, it's over-contrasted from the other section. please change it to ~70% to make the difference more subtle (this happens again later, consider the same)
  • 00:46:525 (44) - add finisher?
  • 00:48:668 (53,54,55,56) - imho kdkk or ddkk (something with dk in the middle) makes the telephone beeping flow much better
  • 00:58:310 - / 01:06:882 - remove a few notes, as this is after the kiai the chain / pattern should be a little softer afterwards. I understand the pattern makes this difficult, but here are some places to consider 00:58:846 - / 00:59:203 - / 00:59:918 - (of course not all of these at once, but just combine some of these ideas and realize how open your possibilities are!)
  • 01:32:239 (45) - finisher?
  • 01:55:096 - / 02:04:918 - nerf this section... this is quite a spread jump from Futsuu, even for a GD. I expect to see more 1/1 breaks here
  • and for Oni, just consider what I said about adding finishers, changing volume, etc.
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General
  • Flip bg horizontally so the lady's face is visible from song selection.
  • Please check your snapping, it seems that some notes are unsnapped.

Kantan
  • this is so light, please change OD to 2.5 I don't see any reason to lower the OD here, nothing makes this kantan different from any other imo
  • 01:52:239 (2) - consider d, that piano pitch is falling This note is higher in pitch than the one before it, changing it to a don contradicts the pitch structure
  • 01:57:953 (5,6) - consider d k to differentiate as you're going into the drums here He's not focusing on the drums here though, the focus is still on the piano

Muzukashii
  • 00:23:668 - 50% is too quiet here imho, it's over-contrasted from the other section. please change it to ~70% to make the difference more subtle (this happens again later, consider the same)
  • 00:46:525 (44) - add finisher?
  • 00:48:668 (53,54,55,56) - imho kdkk or ddkk (something with dk in the middle) makes the telephone beeping flow much better 53, 54, and 55 are the relatively the same pitch, where as 56 shows a clear decrease in pitch compared to those 3-kdkk or ddkk doesn't really help flow, and isn't much more accurate in terms of pitch
  • 00:58:310 - / 01:06:882 - remove a few notes, as this is after the kiai the chain / pattern should be a little softer afterwards. I understand the pattern makes this difficult, but here are some places to consider 00:58:846 - / 00:59:203 - / 00:59:918 - (of course not all of these at once, but just combine some of these ideas and realize how open your possibilities are!) I don't see any problems with what's going on here, this section is definitely less dense straight off the bat due to its absense of any 1/4. On top of that, the 1/2 patterns are fairly simple and not too long at this level, removing notes seems quite unnecessary
  • 01:32:239 (45) - finisher?
  • 01:55:096 - / 02:04:918 - nerf this section... this is quite a spread jump from Futsuu, even for a GD. I expect to see more 1/1 breaks here Maybe so, however making this less dense then makes the jump from Muzu -> Oni in this section too big, the only recommendation I'd have is to make the futsuu a little bit more dense, which is optional imo.
  • and for Oni, just consider what I said about adding finishers, changing volume, etc.
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sorry I was curious about these points
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