17:25 Spork Lover: btw
17:25 Spork Lover: latency is 15 ms
17:25 Spork Lover: so don't judge me too hard xD
17:25 CXu: oh
17:25 CXu: so that's why'
17:25 CXu: xD
17:31 Spork Lover: holy latency makes playing so much harder
17:31 Spork Lover: like what
17:32 CXu: xD
17:32 Spork Lover: 03:53:934 (2,1,2) - this felt super awkward because I thought the first slider was 1/2
17:33 CXu: huh
17:33 Spork Lover: if the first kickslider made the pattern go counter-clockwise instead, it'd make more sense
17:33 Spork Lover: lemme add an example
17:33 CXu: huh I think you're the first one who thought that xD
17:34 Spork Lover: it's 'cause it's linear xd from 03:53:934 (2) - as well
17:34 Spork Lover: or circular*
17:34 Spork Lover: 03:53:768 (1,2) - this is also pretty low spacing Kappa
17:34 Spork Lover: (;
17:36 CXu: I dunno because of how big and fast the whole thing is in general I feel like counter-clockwise motion breaks flow a lot more
17:36 CXu: like it's supposed to like go in a curve from the 2nd part of the 1/8s into the circlething
17:36 Spork Lover: counter clock-wise makes the pattern feel different, which it should imo
17:36 CXu: xd
17:36 Spork Lover: xd
17:36 Spork Lover: but that's up to you of course
17:36 CXu: but it feels different already?
17:37 CXu: also like
17:37 CXu: I dont think 0.5x sliders even turn that short
17:37 CXu: xd
17:37 Spork Lover:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7686105 on 03:21:768 (1,2,3) - for more motion?
17:38 CXu: Hmm, I might add more motion on that, but at least there the spacing between (3) and (1) seems a bit too close for me
17:38 Spork Lover: oh, yeah it was just the pattern
17:39 Spork Lover: lemme fix that lol
17:39 CXu: do you think that no motion doesn't fit with how the song sounds there?
17:40 Spork Lover: I'd say that it just feels unhealthy to play, 'cause the transition after is kinda eh - I think it could be improved at least
17:41 CXu: hmm I guess
17:41 CXu: xd
17:42 Spork Lover: the same thing kinda applies to 00:33:768 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - in terms of the spacing, 'cause it's a little more intense than the beginning xd
17:42 Spork Lover: and it's less spacing
17:42 Spork Lover: it looks good tho
17:42 CXu: oh that
17:42 CXu: that was intentionally smaller spacing actually
17:43 Spork Lover: hmm
17:43 CXu: I dunno sometimes I think doing that makes each slider have more impact xd
17:43 CXu: like
17:43 CXu: it's more intense
17:43 CXu: but the drum beats that are stronger are 1/1
17:43 CXu: so they're slower
17:45 Spork Lover: To me they just feel underwhelming with no-mod - with HR it wouldn't be noticeable tho probs I think
17:45 Spork Lover: 00:35:101 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the spacing on those are fine btw
17:46 CXu: I mean it's not supposed to feel overwhelming. Like at least to me it's still a fairly slow buildup, and it introduces a stronger sound, but it's also going slower than the beats before
17:46 CXu: I think I have the same thing at like at the end after the last kiai xD
17:47 Spork Lover: yeah I saw it just now
17:47 Spork Lover: hmm
17:47 Spork Lover: lol it's even lower spacing in that part, but it feels more intuitive
17:47 Spork Lover: probably just me being odd
17:47 Spork Lover: xd
17:47 CXu: xd
17:48 CXu: I dunno I mean there's nothing wrong with just spacing them out too
17:48 CXu: I just dont really think they're less impactful spaced like they are
17:48 CXu: that's me though
17:48 Spork Lover: 00:46:934 (1,2,3,4) - 4 consistent spacing with the others?
17:49 Spork Lover: since you're gonna go full slider leniency on those
17:49 CXu: oh that
17:49 Spork Lover: or put it under 3 or something
17:49 Spork Lover: idk
17:49 Spork Lover: xd
17:50 CXu: I just spaced it so that (3) was evenly spaced between (4,5) xd
17:50 Spork Lover:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/768620717:50 Spork Lover: you could rotate the 1 slider a bit and move 5 a tiny bit too
17:50 Spork Lover: and there you go x]
17:52 CXu: hmm I guess
17:53 Spork Lover: 01:19:768 (1) - make the curve start earlier to avoid overlapping the offset metre (BN's are getting pretty picky regarding stuff like that 'cause it's in the new guidelines lol)
17:53 CXu: I'll def. fix that (1) slider at least, but I dunno visually it doesn't look too close to the (3) slider compared to the other notes there
17:54 CXu: I'll tell them to turn off the offset meter because it's an optional tool that the player can turn on or off if they desire and thus it's their own fault if they think it somehow makes them suck more at the game
17:54 CXu: xd
17:54 Spork Lover: yeah I find it to be kinda dull too xd
17:54 Spork Lover: the overlap the interface thing
17:54 Spork Lover: but just as a heads-up xd
17:55 CXu: I'm okay with it in lower difficulties in general
17:55 Spork Lover: 01:25:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ascend with the note pitch to compliment the descending spacing on 01:24:434 (3,4,5,6,7) - ?
17:55 CXu: but not on the hardest diff
17:55 CXu: especially now when you can just turn everything off
17:55 Spork Lover:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7686243 really unpolished version
17:57 CXu: I dont want to add that everywhere since I generally dont think it looks very nice xd
17:57 CXu: 01:03:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I skipped it here too
17:57 CXu: only place I actually used it was 03:11:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which is both up and down so I figured it'd be a cool thing to do xd
17:57 Spork Lover: that's fair xd
17:58 Spork Lover: yeah I mentioned it because of that thing x]
17:59 Spork Lover: 03:25:601 - if you're not following vocals properly here like on the first 4 sliders, at least do two single taps and add the next slider on 03:25:934 - instead?
17:59 Spork Lover: 03:27:768 (1) - especially since you do it here as well
18:00 Spork Lover: 04:16:351 (1,1) - hmmmmmmm
18:01 Spork Lover: xd
18:01 CXu: well probably xd
18:01 CXu: though 01:17:601 - it's like the same rhythm here soo xd
18:01 CXu: and yeah I added that intentionally since I splitted up the other 2 in NCs, and the last NC there is the next pattern
18:01 Spork Lover: i'd do it there too then xd
18:01 CXu: so that was the only thing that kinda worked xD
18:03 Spork Lover: 04:15:601 (2) - lower sv and an NC, and then ascend spacing without the NC's on 04:15:851 (1,1) -
18:03 Spork Lover: or something like that idk
18:04 Spork Lover: SV stuff probably wouldn't even be necessary xd
18:04 CXu: because it's like the same drum thingie sound I think it's fine to just keep the SV since that sounds the whole reason for the spacing and sv increase in the first place
18:05 CXu: as for ascending spacing, it's like the same drumsound so I dont think that fits as well as some other places I dunno
18:05 Spork Lover: 00:32:434 (2) - nc on this tho for sure
18:05 CXu: as for why NCs, well, I did NC spam for parts because whynot
18:05 CXu: there already is?
http://i.imgur.com/oOvK11o.png18:05 CXu: xDDD
18:06 Spork Lover: what
18:06 Spork Lover: i even re-open the map after i add random pattern ideas
18:06 Spork Lover: I'm sad xd
18:06 CXu: dno LOL
18:07 Spork Lover: 06:28:434 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - imo this doesn't look too good
18:07 Spork Lover: compared to the other similar pattern
18:07 Spork Lover: patterns*
18:08 CXu: haha yeah maybe
18:08 Spork Lover: probably because the curves on the sliders don't have any correlation to what the pattern is doing
18:08 CXu: It sounded like a good idea in my head though!
18:08 Spork Lover: LEL
18:08 Spork Lover: 06:25:768 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this is sexi tho
18:08 CXu: it's basically just moving each slider a bit further down while rotating them by like 10 degrees or something
18:09 Spork Lover: like the bg
18:09 CXu: bg best
18:09 Spork Lover: ^
18:10 Spork Lover: just a sec x]
18:10 Spork Lover: i'm gonna gib present
18:11 CXu: xD
18:11 CXu: also post log pls
18:11 Spork Lover: wtf there's no 1920 version of the bg
18:11 Spork Lover: no present for u
18:12 Spork Lover:
((((((
18:12 Spork Lover: If I had more time I'd have done a mod instead btw
18:12 Spork Lover: but school and tourney zzz xd
18:12 CXu: well
18:12 CXu: still post log pls xd
18:12 Spork Lover: yeah of course
18:12 Spork Lover: lol
18:12 CXu: I like free starpriority
18:12 CXu: also I need it because I havent done any changes yet because I'm hungryyy xD
18:12 Spork Lover: i like free KD for a BN test :^)
18:13 Spork Lover: lol
18:13 Spork Lover: good shit xddd