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Conclusion and what to do now: Try to find more patterns you can use to map and don't be afraid to stray form the centre of the screen as it will reduce overlaps greatly. Im not saying to copy ranked maps but look at some ranked maps and think what do these have in common.
If u want an example of how a part should be spaced I can send you a small example of this map when its respaced (It won't be that great but it will be okay enough to recognize some basic patterns)
Gl with further mapping
Hard
00:00:600 (1,2,3) - You can make it more fun if you do it like this https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/4Rre7aR.png
00:01:800 (1) - Angle this towards the reverse
00:02:550 (4,5,6) - Swap the position of this stack and the reverse slider
00:03:150 (1,3) - Overlap between these so move 00:03:750 (3) up
00:04:800 (1,2) - stack these on top of 00:06:000 (3)
00:06:300 (4,2) - Overlap
00:07:050 (3,1) - ^
00:08:250 (2,4) - ^
00:08:250 (2,4) - ^
00:08:850 (4,2) - ^
There is alot of overlap here, You can see it really easily beacause it's most of the time within one or two objects. Try to search yourself for overlaps like I mentioned so you know better how to avoid them in the future.
00:23:700 (2,3,4) - Just highlighting this piece of the combo as there is alot of it in the map, I would choose 2-3 patterns to map these and only use those instead of going for something different every time.
00:29:850 (3,2) - just showing that here you can easily remove the overlap by just stacking the notes
00:33:900 (4) - This slider should start on 00:33:750
00:39:150 (7) - Use a more intense reverse (1/8 sohuld work)
00:46:800 (1,2) - Keep some complicated shapes here but increase SV
00:59:400 (1,2,3) - ^
01:57:000 (1,2,3) - ^
00:01:800 (1) - Angle this towards the reverse
00:02:550 (4,5,6) - Swap the position of this stack and the reverse slider
00:03:150 (1,3) - Overlap between these so move 00:03:750 (3) up
00:04:800 (1,2) - stack these on top of 00:06:000 (3)
00:06:300 (4,2) - Overlap
00:07:050 (3,1) - ^
00:08:250 (2,4) - ^
00:08:250 (2,4) - ^
00:08:850 (4,2) - ^
There is alot of overlap here, You can see it really easily beacause it's most of the time within one or two objects. Try to search yourself for overlaps like I mentioned so you know better how to avoid them in the future.
00:23:700 (2,3,4) - Just highlighting this piece of the combo as there is alot of it in the map, I would choose 2-3 patterns to map these and only use those instead of going for something different every time.
00:29:850 (3,2) - just showing that here you can easily remove the overlap by just stacking the notes
00:33:900 (4) - This slider should start on 00:33:750
00:39:150 (7) - Use a more intense reverse (1/8 sohuld work)
00:46:800 (1,2) - Keep some complicated shapes here but increase SV
00:59:400 (1,2,3) - ^
01:57:000 (1,2,3) - ^
Insane
00:01:650 (6) - keep this as a straight/slightly curved slider, there is no need for wiggles
00:08:250 (3) - Ctrl + J to make for a better continuation of the pattern
00:31:950 (3) - remove this circle if you want to follow the vocals
00:39:000 (4,5,6,7,8) - Use more equal spacing
00:42:150 add circle here
00:55:500 (1,2,3) - fix spacing here
Kiai is active in the break, deactivate it here
01:18:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - Don't start the map again with streams, put some sliders down first so people have chance to get used to the rhythm again
01:27:300 (1) - This slider doesn't fit
01:35:100 (1,2,3) - this triple goes the wrong way
You also have a ton of overlap in this map, this is beacause you probably don't have that much experience with patterns but also beacause you stay on the centre of the screen. Utilise the edges more
00:08:250 (3) - Ctrl + J to make for a better continuation of the pattern
00:31:950 (3) - remove this circle if you want to follow the vocals
00:39:000 (4,5,6,7,8) - Use more equal spacing
00:42:150 add circle here
00:55:500 (1,2,3) - fix spacing here
Kiai is active in the break, deactivate it here
01:18:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - Don't start the map again with streams, put some sliders down first so people have chance to get used to the rhythm again
01:27:300 (1) - This slider doesn't fit
01:35:100 (1,2,3) - this triple goes the wrong way
You also have a ton of overlap in this map, this is beacause you probably don't have that much experience with patterns but also beacause you stay on the centre of the screen. Utilise the edges more
Extra
00:09:600 (1) - Unrankable slider
00:11:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too many circles in a row
00:16:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
Don't leave gaps on these big white ticks at 00:31:200 and 00:32:400
00:39:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks like you have to keep streaming
01:02:100 (4) - unrankable slider
01:27:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - weirdly spaced
01:35:550 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - wow, this spacing
01:48:900 (2) - should be between 1 and 3
This suffers from the same problem as the other 2, full of overlaps and weird patterns
00:11:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too many circles in a row
00:16:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
Don't leave gaps on these big white ticks at 00:31:200 and 00:32:400
00:39:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks like you have to keep streaming
01:02:100 (4) - unrankable slider
01:27:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - weirdly spaced
01:35:550 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - wow, this spacing
01:48:900 (2) - should be between 1 and 3
This suffers from the same problem as the other 2, full of overlaps and weird patterns
Conclusion and what to do now: Try to find more patterns you can use to map and don't be afraid to stray form the centre of the screen as it will reduce overlaps greatly. Im not saying to copy ranked maps but look at some ranked maps and think what do these have in common.
If u want an example of how a part should be spaced I can send you a small example of this map when its respaced (It won't be that great but it will be okay enough to recognize some basic patterns)
Gl with further mapping
Ill mod, but do 1 Thing before:
Btw, I love the map, so Im really eager to map! GL!
Insane
SliderVelocity to 1.4 Like in Hard Diff, Any Higher is insane
Aswell, Dont do parts with 2x Slider Velocity either, Max 1.5 or lower for such a map
As Example 1500,-66.6666666666667,4,1,1,100,0,0
4800,-50,4,1,1,5,0,0
5100,-50,4,1,1,5,0,0
Just stay in a range of 0,7-1.0 Slider Velocity there, Its a Hard Difficulty , the Sliders are Insanely Fast!
Ar to 9: Maps under 5 Stars should never have AR over 9 unless very high bpm. I know for you, Ar 9.3 feels better, but its just too fast for that BPM.
Aswell, Dont do parts with 2x Slider Velocity either, Max 1.5 or lower for such a map
As Example 1500,-66.6666666666667,4,1,1,100,0,0
4800,-50,4,1,1,5,0,0
5100,-50,4,1,1,5,0,0
Just stay in a range of 0,7-1.0 Slider Velocity there, Its a Hard Difficulty , the Sliders are Insanely Fast!
Ar to 9: Maps under 5 Stars should never have AR over 9 unless very high bpm. I know for you, Ar 9.3 feels better, but its just too fast for that BPM.
Btw, I love the map, so Im really eager to map! GL!
Topic Starter
i dont understand , can use like this 00:02:250 (5) - ? it's easy for me to change it ^^
please ~
please ~
Topic Starter
Thanks Dr_Marc ! i got it . Here some Kudosu ~
Irc random mod
Gl with mapping
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10:32 Kyousukee: Hello !
10:32 gottagof4ast: `hi
10:33 Kyousukee: open queqe for modding ?
10:33 gottagof4ast: depends on the song
10:33 gottagof4ast: for nm
10:33 gottagof4ast: oh I remember you now
10:34 Kyousukee: thanks for remembering me
10:34 gottagof4ast: I modded that doutei song
10:34 Kyousukee: yes
10:34 Kyousukee: it the same song
10:34 gottagof4ast: rechack?
10:34 Kyousukee: can take a look again ?
10:34 gottagof4ast: recheck*
10:34 Kyousukee: yes
10:34 Kyousukee: insane only
10:34 gottagof4ast: I'll take a look but it's probably going to be later today as I have to leave in half an hour
10:35 Kyousukee: oh
10:35 Kyousukee: okay
10:35 Kyousukee: thanks
10:35 *Kyousukee is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1244087 IOSYS - Doutei Korose]
10:42 gottagof4ast: We can also just do a quick mod now ingame if you want to
10:42 gottagof4ast: If you want to
10:42 Kyousukee: yes
10:42 gottagof4ast: okay
10:42 gottagof4ast: so on the insane
10:42 Kyousukee: like this 01:37:050 (4) - right ?
10:43 gottagof4ast: yup
10:43 gottagof4ast: 00:00:600 (1) - this slider has 3 slideranchors
10:43 gottagof4ast: you only need 2
10:43 gottagof4ast: 1 sec someone is at the door
10:44 Kyousukee: oh
10:44 Kyousukee: i'll wait ^^
10:45 gottagof4ast: back
10:45 gottagof4ast: Also, just in general, try to keep slidershapes the same most of the time
10:45 gottagof4ast: may look boring but it'll make your map look better
10:45 Kyousukee: have 3 slideranchor ? how to remove it
10:45 Kyousukee: oh
10:45 gottagof4ast: rightclick one
10:46 gottagof4ast: for example 00:00:600 (1,2) - can have the same shape
10:46 Kyousukee: rightclick one ?
10:47 gottagof4ast: ctrl+c one and then ctrl v it and place it right
10:47 Kyousukee: oh okay i understand
10:47 gottagof4ast: you can use ctrl h and ctrl j to flip it so it
10:48 gottagof4ast: 00:01:275 (4) - this doesnt need to be mapped
10:48 gottagof4ast: I also made that mistake alot of placing triples where there shouldn't be one
10:48 gottagof4ast: 00:02:025 (3) - same here
10:48 Kyousukee: no need triples ?
10:49 gottagof4ast: not one those spots
10:49 Kyousukee: oh right , nice
10:49 gottagof4ast: slow the song down and carefully listen for soounds on the blue ticks
10:49 Kyousukee: 00:06:075 (4) - this too , right ?
10:49 gottagof4ast: yup
10:49 Kyousukee: 50% slow ?
10:50 gottagof4ast: you can choose what you want
10:50 Kyousukee: thanks for the tips
10:50 gottagof4ast: I use 25% but everyone likes somethign different
10:50 gottagof4ast: also here 00:01:500 (6,1,2,3,4) -
10:50 gottagof4ast: 00:01:500 (6,1) - are spaced far from eachother
10:50 gottagof4ast: while 00:01:800 (1,2) - are close
10:51 gottagof4ast: 00:01:800 (1,2) - should have a larger spacing beacause of the loud sound on 00:01:950 (2) -
10:51 gottagof4ast: If something has a loud sound you want to reflect that in the map by using large spacing
10:52 Kyousukee: oh !
10:52 gottagof4ast: its not the easiest concept to do well
10:53 gottagof4ast: if u think you understand we can go to the next point
10:53 gottagof4ast: otherwise I can try and look for other examples
10:53 Kyousukee: i know it
10:54 gottagof4ast: ok then, next thing
10:54 gottagof4ast: 00:02:550 (6) - this reverse slider doesnt have a sound on the 2nd red tick
10:54 gottagof4ast: blue tick*
10:54 gottagof4ast: 2:775
10:55 gottagof4ast: slow it down a listen to it
10:55 Kyousukee: oh yes
10:56 gottagof4ast: this is a perfect place for a triple and then a normal circle instead
10:56 Kyousukee: 00:07:350 (2) -
10:56 Kyousukee: this too
10:56 gottagof4ast: http://i.imgur.com/aq49RlO.png
10:57 gottagof4ast: it should be like that
10:57 gottagof4ast: and yes, also 00:07:350 (2) -
10:58 gottagof4ast: most of the normal triples should just be 2 cirlces like earlier
10:58 gottagof4ast: 00:06:000 (3,4,5) -
10:58 gottagof4ast: 00:06:750 (7,8,9) -
10:59 gottagof4ast: 00:12:600 (1) -
10:59 gottagof4ast: this slider start on a quiet sound and ends on a strong one
11:00 Kyousukee: 00:06:000 (3) - what i need to change ?
11:00 gottagof4ast: 00:06:075 (4) - shouldn't be there
11:00 gottagof4ast: I would recommend to turn off histounds when determining if there are sounds
11:01 gottagof4ast: 00:06:300 (6) - weird slideranchors
11:01 Kyousukee: oh
11:01 Kyousukee: turn off hitsound by slow down the effect volume ?
11:02 gottagof4ast: yes, lower the effect volume so you don't hear them
11:02 Kyousukee: are slideranchors is important to you ?
11:03 gottagof4ast: They are easy to do right so I don't see why you should try for a weird approach
11:03 gottagof4ast: 00:21:750 (4) - no sound on this note
11:03 Kyousukee: ohh
11:04 gottagof4ast: 00:22:050 (6) - same here, sliderend has sound, sliderhead does not
11:04 gottagof4ast: there are alot of things mapped that aren't here
11:05 gottagof4ast: relisten to most objects to see if they follow a sound
11:05 gottagof4ast: Also, do you use distance snap?
11:05 Kyousukee: yes !
11:05 Kyousukee: before this , i'm not use it
11:05 Kyousukee: haha
11:06 gottagof4ast: you use it on some spots but should be more consistent in using it
11:06 Kyousukee: distance snaping ?
11:06 gottagof4ast: yes
11:07 Kyousukee: 00:25:650 (1) - this doesn't have sound , right ?
11:07 gottagof4ast: 1.5x to 2x distance snap should be fine to map this
11:07 gottagof4ast: yeah, it doesn't
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:25:350 (1) - also this
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:27:750 (2) -
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:28:050 (4) - starts on nothing
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:28:950 (3) - ^
11:08 gottagof4ast: they are easy to spot
11:09 gottagof4ast: I've got to get going now so this is the end of the mod prob
11:09 Kyousukee: 00:28:050 (3) - how stupid i'm V
11:09 gottagof4ast:
11:09 gottagof4ast: I'll save the log and post it on the forum and you can give kds that way
10:32 gottagof4ast: `hi
10:33 Kyousukee: open queqe for modding ?
10:33 gottagof4ast: depends on the song
10:33 gottagof4ast: for nm
10:33 gottagof4ast: oh I remember you now
10:34 Kyousukee: thanks for remembering me
10:34 gottagof4ast: I modded that doutei song
10:34 Kyousukee: yes
10:34 Kyousukee: it the same song
10:34 gottagof4ast: rechack?
10:34 Kyousukee: can take a look again ?
10:34 gottagof4ast: recheck*
10:34 Kyousukee: yes
10:34 Kyousukee: insane only
10:34 gottagof4ast: I'll take a look but it's probably going to be later today as I have to leave in half an hour
10:35 Kyousukee: oh
10:35 Kyousukee: okay
10:35 Kyousukee: thanks
10:35 *Kyousukee is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1244087 IOSYS - Doutei Korose]
10:42 gottagof4ast: We can also just do a quick mod now ingame if you want to
10:42 gottagof4ast: If you want to
10:42 Kyousukee: yes
10:42 gottagof4ast: okay
10:42 gottagof4ast: so on the insane
10:42 Kyousukee: like this 01:37:050 (4) - right ?
10:43 gottagof4ast: yup
10:43 gottagof4ast: 00:00:600 (1) - this slider has 3 slideranchors
10:43 gottagof4ast: you only need 2
10:43 gottagof4ast: 1 sec someone is at the door
10:44 Kyousukee: oh
10:44 Kyousukee: i'll wait ^^
10:45 gottagof4ast: back
10:45 gottagof4ast: Also, just in general, try to keep slidershapes the same most of the time
10:45 gottagof4ast: may look boring but it'll make your map look better
10:45 Kyousukee: have 3 slideranchor ? how to remove it
10:45 Kyousukee: oh
10:45 gottagof4ast: rightclick one
10:46 gottagof4ast: for example 00:00:600 (1,2) - can have the same shape
10:46 Kyousukee: rightclick one ?
10:47 gottagof4ast: ctrl+c one and then ctrl v it and place it right
10:47 Kyousukee: oh okay i understand
10:47 gottagof4ast: you can use ctrl h and ctrl j to flip it so it
10:48 gottagof4ast: 00:01:275 (4) - this doesnt need to be mapped
10:48 gottagof4ast: I also made that mistake alot of placing triples where there shouldn't be one
10:48 gottagof4ast: 00:02:025 (3) - same here
10:48 Kyousukee: no need triples ?
10:49 gottagof4ast: not one those spots
10:49 Kyousukee: oh right , nice
10:49 gottagof4ast: slow the song down and carefully listen for soounds on the blue ticks
10:49 Kyousukee: 00:06:075 (4) - this too , right ?
10:49 gottagof4ast: yup
10:49 Kyousukee: 50% slow ?
10:50 gottagof4ast: you can choose what you want
10:50 Kyousukee: thanks for the tips
10:50 gottagof4ast: I use 25% but everyone likes somethign different
10:50 gottagof4ast: also here 00:01:500 (6,1,2,3,4) -
10:50 gottagof4ast: 00:01:500 (6,1) - are spaced far from eachother
10:50 gottagof4ast: while 00:01:800 (1,2) - are close
10:51 gottagof4ast: 00:01:800 (1,2) - should have a larger spacing beacause of the loud sound on 00:01:950 (2) -
10:51 gottagof4ast: If something has a loud sound you want to reflect that in the map by using large spacing
10:52 Kyousukee: oh !
10:52 gottagof4ast: its not the easiest concept to do well
10:53 gottagof4ast: if u think you understand we can go to the next point
10:53 gottagof4ast: otherwise I can try and look for other examples
10:53 Kyousukee: i know it
10:54 gottagof4ast: ok then, next thing
10:54 gottagof4ast: 00:02:550 (6) - this reverse slider doesnt have a sound on the 2nd red tick
10:54 gottagof4ast: blue tick*
10:54 gottagof4ast: 2:775
10:55 gottagof4ast: slow it down a listen to it
10:55 Kyousukee: oh yes
10:56 gottagof4ast: this is a perfect place for a triple and then a normal circle instead
10:56 Kyousukee: 00:07:350 (2) -
10:56 Kyousukee: this too
10:56 gottagof4ast: http://i.imgur.com/aq49RlO.png
10:57 gottagof4ast: it should be like that
10:57 gottagof4ast: and yes, also 00:07:350 (2) -
10:58 gottagof4ast: most of the normal triples should just be 2 cirlces like earlier
10:58 gottagof4ast: 00:06:000 (3,4,5) -
10:58 gottagof4ast: 00:06:750 (7,8,9) -
10:59 gottagof4ast: 00:12:600 (1) -
10:59 gottagof4ast: this slider start on a quiet sound and ends on a strong one
11:00 Kyousukee: 00:06:000 (3) - what i need to change ?
11:00 gottagof4ast: 00:06:075 (4) - shouldn't be there
11:00 gottagof4ast: I would recommend to turn off histounds when determining if there are sounds
11:01 gottagof4ast: 00:06:300 (6) - weird slideranchors
11:01 Kyousukee: oh
11:01 Kyousukee: turn off hitsound by slow down the effect volume ?
11:02 gottagof4ast: yes, lower the effect volume so you don't hear them
11:02 Kyousukee: are slideranchors is important to you ?
11:03 gottagof4ast: They are easy to do right so I don't see why you should try for a weird approach
11:03 gottagof4ast: 00:21:750 (4) - no sound on this note
11:03 Kyousukee: ohh
11:04 gottagof4ast: 00:22:050 (6) - same here, sliderend has sound, sliderhead does not
11:04 gottagof4ast: there are alot of things mapped that aren't here
11:05 gottagof4ast: relisten to most objects to see if they follow a sound
11:05 gottagof4ast: Also, do you use distance snap?
11:05 Kyousukee: yes !
11:05 Kyousukee: before this , i'm not use it
11:05 Kyousukee: haha
11:06 gottagof4ast: you use it on some spots but should be more consistent in using it
11:06 Kyousukee: distance snaping ?
11:06 gottagof4ast: yes
11:07 Kyousukee: 00:25:650 (1) - this doesn't have sound , right ?
11:07 gottagof4ast: 1.5x to 2x distance snap should be fine to map this
11:07 gottagof4ast: yeah, it doesn't
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:25:350 (1) - also this
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:27:750 (2) -
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:28:050 (4) - starts on nothing
11:08 gottagof4ast: 00:28:950 (3) - ^
11:08 gottagof4ast: they are easy to spot
11:09 gottagof4ast: I've got to get going now so this is the end of the mod prob
11:09 Kyousukee: 00:28:050 (3) - how stupid i'm V
11:09 gottagof4ast:
11:09 gottagof4ast: I'll save the log and post it on the forum and you can give kds that way
Gl with mapping
top diff as requested
I did this mod before your irc with gottagof4ast so some of these points may be invalid
Insane
I did this mod before your irc with gottagof4ast so some of these points may be invalid
Insane
- you need hitsounds! without hitsounds, the diff becomes very dull. also because the ranking criteria states that you need hitsounds
- 00:01:275 (4) - overmapped, there's no sound in the music to justify this triplet usage
- 00:01:950 (2,3,4) - ^ for circle 3
- 00:02:550 (6) - ^ should only repeat once then a circle like in this picture. you do these overmapping things again throughout the diff so I suggest listening to the entire diff again to make sure there are sounds in the music to justify your placed rhythm
- 00:06:750 (7,1) - NC's should be swapped around here since the triplet is when the next "measure" starts and not the slider
- 00:07:800 (1,3) - kinda sloppy placement, these sliders overlap making them look very unappealing. I suggest spacing them out a bit more so they do not overlap
- 00:08:850 (4,1) - space these out a bit more? circle 1 is pretty strong and therefore should be emphasised with increased spacing.
- 00:09:600 (1,2,3) - perhaps move this pattern so circle 1 stacks underneath previous circle 2? The music pauses momentarily at that point so stacking underneath that circle would help emphasise that pause with a cursor movement stop. example here
- 00:20:100 (1,1) - spacing too big. the song isn't even that intense at that part so the large spacing doesn't really fit
- 00:20:250 (1,2) - I wouldn't stack these objects tbh, that same drum hit can be heard at 00:20:400 (2) - so that too should be spaced just like the previous circles before it
- 00:21:900 (5,6) - I would go slider then circle here instead of circle then slider. there are held vocals at 00:21:900 (5) - so a slider here would accent that nicely. it would also make 00:22:199 (6) - clickable which would be nice since there is a vocal start and guitar rift
- 00:30:300 (2) - hard to read, I don't recommend placin this behind 00:29:700 (4) -
- 00:33:000 (3) - space this out a bit more? becuase you did previously at places like 00:30:600 (2) - , 00:31:800 (3) - .
- 00:33:150 (4) - remove this circle? overmapped
- 00:34:650 (2,3,4) - circle circle slider seems to work better than slider circle circle. It allows all the strong vocals starts to be clickable
- 00:42:600 (3) - move the NC from 00:42:150 (1) - to here? 00:42:600 (3) - is the stronger start and the measure start.
- 00:45:150 (3) - this is spaced too much for a sound in the music that is comparatively unimportant. It would make more sense to space out 00:45:000 (2) - instead
- 00:46:800 (1,1,1,1) - the song is still rather intense so using such an easy rhythm here isn't fitting at all. Consider using a more complex rhythm here instead. If not and you want to keep current rhythm, don't NC so much here since that's just NC abuse haha (NC affects drain)
- 00:55:950 (1,2) - over here you decide not to follow that instrument heard at 00:54:900 (1,2) - ? imo it would be best to follow that instrument again here
- 01:05:550 (2,3) - makes no sense to shorten spacing here especialyl for 1/2 rhythm. consider spacing it out more
- 01:16:050 (1) - this should start on that large white tick instead since that's the stronger guitar rift
- 01:32:550 (1,2,3) - perhaps readjust the rhythm here so the vocals are represented by the sliders? as you have done at 01:33:900 (1,2) -
- the second kiai time is basically a copy and paste of the first kiai albiet with very slight changes like slider shapes. Everything I said in kiai 1 may apply in kiai 2
Short irc map before he got offline
Mod:
Destroyer-Mod ended. But Now important. DONT GET BEATEN BY WORDS. WITHSTAND THEM WITH ALL YOUR POWER!
Give your best, I wanna see this map ranked you know! owo Dare you to just stop mapping now!
IRC-Insane Diff
Dont cry now, as it gets a little insane now, but please consider only one thing: Go through with the modding with as much time as you need, dont rush things. Try to see why you made mistakes and dont make them next time, thats how I and we all learned.11:45 Dr_Marc: herro my sir
11:45 Kyousukee: hey
11:47 Dr_Marc: Can i do irc mod aswell?
11:50 Kyousukee: yes
11:50 Dr_Marc: K then
11:50 Kyousukee: thanks !
11:51 Kyousukee: i can do a little mod , you have map that need to mod ?
11:51 Dr_Marc: 00:02:550 (6) - is a triplet, make it end on white beat
11:51 Dr_Marc: Sure i do: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/601117
11:51 Dr_Marc: 00:02:850 - can set a note here
11:51 Kyousukee: hey
11:52 Kyousukee: already
11:52 Kyousukee: i'm not submit it
11:52 Kyousukee: wait
11:52 Kyousukee: i'm submit 1st the new
11:53 Kyousukee: okay , can u update it ?
11:53 Dr_Marc: oh ok
11:53 Dr_Marc: yeah
11:53 Dr_Marc: oh someone already told you that owo
11:54 Kyousukee: haha
11:54 Dr_Marc:
11:55 Dr_Marc: Thing is if you listen to the sounds, more heavy beats begin at the white beat, and the slider end on the stronger beats, which should never be the case
11:55 Dr_Marc: 00:03:300 (3,4,5,6) -
11:56 Dr_Marc: I would try making 00:03:300 (3) - a slider
11:57 Dr_Marc: then 00:03:600 - and 00:03:900 - maybe a circle
11:57 Dr_Marc: 00:06:150 - skipped beat
11:58 Dr_Marc: try to copy the beginning for now
11:59 Dr_Marc: then, also change 00:06:300 (4) - to a slider and a note like in the beginning
11:45 Kyousukee: hey
11:47 Dr_Marc: Can i do irc mod aswell?
11:50 Kyousukee: yes
11:50 Dr_Marc: K then
11:50 Kyousukee: thanks !
11:51 Kyousukee: i can do a little mod , you have map that need to mod ?
11:51 Dr_Marc: 00:02:550 (6) - is a triplet, make it end on white beat
11:51 Dr_Marc: Sure i do: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/601117
11:51 Dr_Marc: 00:02:850 - can set a note here
11:51 Kyousukee: hey
11:52 Kyousukee: already
11:52 Kyousukee: i'm not submit it
11:52 Kyousukee: wait
11:52 Kyousukee: i'm submit 1st the new
11:53 Kyousukee: okay , can u update it ?
11:53 Dr_Marc: oh ok
11:53 Dr_Marc: yeah
11:53 Dr_Marc: oh someone already told you that owo
11:54 Kyousukee: haha
11:54 Dr_Marc:
11:55 Dr_Marc: Thing is if you listen to the sounds, more heavy beats begin at the white beat, and the slider end on the stronger beats, which should never be the case
11:55 Dr_Marc: 00:03:300 (3,4,5,6) -
11:56 Dr_Marc: I would try making 00:03:300 (3) - a slider
11:57 Dr_Marc: then 00:03:600 - and 00:03:900 - maybe a circle
11:57 Dr_Marc: 00:06:150 - skipped beat
11:58 Dr_Marc: try to copy the beginning for now
11:59 Dr_Marc: then, also change 00:06:300 (4) - to a slider and a note like in the beginning
Mod:
Insane
Set notes for each white tick here 00:10:200 -
to 00:11:100 -
Now comes a important part, which is patterns, which I cant do myself because it needs overview: I suggest watching Pishifats videos if you havent already.
When you have this distinctive part like 00:00:600 (1,2,3,4) - , make the Angles of the notes the same. You can rotate them, make a symmetrical copy with some Hotkeys, maybe change a note around 180°, but let the sliderangles (Ankors) and Distances the same. This is to master for all parts.. which is insane to do for Newbies like us >_> But i will try my best to explain:
You have
for the beginning
and
for the second times its beeing played. Do you notice it? The player has no recognition of the same pattern although its the same part . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCB5rLXqWKY
00:09:300 - maybe space here more because of hard sound
00:15:600 (3) - this can all be a stream (Listen to background beat)
00:19:800 (1,1,1,1,2) - well done, but maybe put slider velocity up, because players will expect that
00:09:150 - Unnecesarry Sliderchange
00:30:750 - and 00:31:950 - set 1/4 Beat slider for more flow because music gets more exciting
00:34:500 (1,2) - there you have done it, instead of a slider, 2 notes now. Its still the same sound, but using 2 notes here is perfect, because its the last time before it gets crazy
00:34:800 (3,4) - set into long slider like youve done before
00:35:400 (1,2,1,1) - maybe set into long sliders which end on blue tick, or better: 1 Beat long
someone told me this before, so i maybe telling you this aswell 00:37:800 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Squares are old mapping and hard to play, aslong as you use them mulitple times in the song, its ok (Patterns again) But not if it is only once in song
as its kiai, make more exciting here: 00:46:650 - by not exactly following voice but more the beat
Edit: Same as 01:44:400 -
New combo 00:54:600 (4) -
00:55:800 - Slider which you placed at 00:55:950 (1) - begins here, end at 4
Now here 00:56:400 - a 1/4 Beat Slider again ,
Important: PATTERNS
for 00:54:150 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - and 00:55:500 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - use the same placement of the notes and same combos
00:58:800 - HERE Music gets slower, dont use rapid sliders anymore, make a long note out of it
Make 01:00:600 (1) - the same as 00:59:400 (1) - (Copy note and place with different angle with CTRL+SHIFT+R)
Make 1 Beat long slider out of 01:01:800 (1) -
01:02:250 (2) - 2 beats long
01:03:300 - Note
01:03:600 (4) - maybe 5 note stream instead
01:05:400 (1,2,3,4) - should all be single notes
Same mistakes as in the first part: Slider begins on 01:06:900 -
01:09:300 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Finally a pattern you used! Neat, Use this pattern if another part like this is in the song
01:18:450 - Skipped beat
01:19:950 (1,2) - are like 00:04:800 (1,2) - map it the same
01:22:350 (1,2) - same , although I prefer this mapping from the both other ways you mapped it
01:29:850 (2) - same mistake (You get it now, watch through your map for same pattern there,although in kiai mode you can use them differently)
Make 01:24:450 (7) - 5/4s beat long
Make 01:27:000 - 1/2 Beat long ending on red tick, then
place 01:27:300 - a note
01:27:900 (5) - Halfbeat (1/2 Beat ) Slider for better flow
btw, you should map 00:39:750 - aswell
01:56:400 (3) - streamer
01:58:200 (1) - make same as 01:57:000 (1) -
02:03:750 (6) - Same as 00:02:550 (5) - , (Tip: Copy pattern from the beginning)
to 00:11:100 -
Now comes a important part, which is patterns, which I cant do myself because it needs overview: I suggest watching Pishifats videos if you havent already.
When you have this distinctive part like 00:00:600 (1,2,3,4) - , make the Angles of the notes the same. You can rotate them, make a symmetrical copy with some Hotkeys, maybe change a note around 180°, but let the sliderangles (Ankors) and Distances the same. This is to master for all parts.. which is insane to do for Newbies like us >_> But i will try my best to explain:
You have
and
00:09:300 - maybe space here more because of hard sound
00:15:600 (3) - this can all be a stream (Listen to background beat)
00:19:800 (1,1,1,1,2) - well done, but maybe put slider velocity up, because players will expect that
00:09:150 - Unnecesarry Sliderchange
00:30:750 - and 00:31:950 - set 1/4 Beat slider for more flow because music gets more exciting
00:34:500 (1,2) - there you have done it, instead of a slider, 2 notes now. Its still the same sound, but using 2 notes here is perfect, because its the last time before it gets crazy
00:34:800 (3,4) - set into long slider like youve done before
00:35:400 (1,2,1,1) - maybe set into long sliders which end on blue tick, or better: 1 Beat long
someone told me this before, so i maybe telling you this aswell
00:37:800 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Squares are old mapping and hard to play, aslong as you use them mulitple times in the song, its ok (Patterns again) But not if it is only once in song as its kiai, make more exciting here: 00:46:650 - by not exactly following voice but more the beat
Edit: Same as 01:44:400 -
New combo 00:54:600 (4) -
00:55:800 - Slider which you placed at 00:55:950 (1) - begins here, end at 4
Now here 00:56:400 - a 1/4 Beat Slider again ,
Important: PATTERNS
for 00:54:150 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - and 00:55:500 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - use the same placement of the notes and same combos
00:58:800 - HERE Music gets slower, dont use rapid sliders anymore, make a long note out of it
Make 01:00:600 (1) - the same as 00:59:400 (1) - (Copy note and place with different angle with CTRL+SHIFT+R)
Make 1 Beat long slider out of 01:01:800 (1) -
01:02:250 (2) - 2 beats long
01:03:300 - Note
01:03:600 (4) - maybe 5 note stream instead
01:05:400 (1,2,3,4) - should all be single notes
Same mistakes as in the first part: Slider begins on 01:06:900 -
01:09:300 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Finally a pattern you used! Neat, Use this pattern if another part like this is in the song
01:18:450 - Skipped beat
01:19:950 (1,2) - are like 00:04:800 (1,2) - map it the same
01:22:350 (1,2) - same , although I prefer this mapping from the both other ways you mapped it
01:29:850 (2) - same mistake (You get it now, watch through your map for same pattern there,although in kiai mode you can use them differently)
Make 01:24:450 (7) - 5/4s beat long
Make 01:27:000 - 1/2 Beat long ending on red tick, then
place 01:27:300 - a note
01:27:900 (5) - Halfbeat (1/2 Beat ) Slider for better flow
btw, you should map 00:39:750 - aswell
01:56:400 (3) - streamer
01:58:200 (1) - make same as 01:57:000 (1) -
02:03:750 (6) - Same as 00:02:550 (5) - , (Tip: Copy pattern from the beginning)
Destroyer-Mod ended. But Now important. DONT GET BEATEN BY WORDS. WITHSTAND THEM WITH ALL YOUR POWER!
Give your best, I wanna see this map ranked you know! owo Dare you to just stop mapping now!
Topic Starter
Thanks Rizen !
Sorry my mod is suck on your map
Sorry my mod is suck on your map
Topic Starter
Yes , I'll not stop for becoming mapper ! I'll give my best !!
Thanks for mod it ! Dr_Marc
Thanks for mod it ! Dr_Marc
Topic Starter
Again thanks to you !! @gottagof4ast
Thanks for teaching & modding !!
Thanks for teaching & modding !!
hi, I come from #modreqs
[General]
[Easy]
[Normal]
[Hard]
[Insane]
I hope this helped you a bit. If you have any question, don't hesitate to let me know. I'd be happy to help you out!
[General]
- I'll only give you general tips on how to improve your stuffs a bit, since there is a lot of work before considering this for a ranked state.
- AiMod is a mapper's best friend. You might want to get familiar with this useful tool located in Files>Open AiMod or Ctrl+Shift+A
- Your timing points came to my attention. You are using many duplicate timing points with the same settings, which is useless since when adding a timing point with a specific characteristic, it is applied to every objects after the timing point you've set until you add a new timing point with other settings. You should take a look to these and clean that up! Also, talking about these, it's not suggested to use 100% volume points, so I'm suggesting you to make it lower :p
[Easy]
- You should take a look at the rhythm of your objects, how they could emphasize the song's elements such as the instruments, the vocals, etc.
I've noticed that you were going too basic on what you are doing. I know it is a 200BPM song and this difficulty is labeled as an Easy difficulty, you should consider spicing it up to make sure everything makes sense and to make sure every object has a meaning. For an example, 00:00:600 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I can consider this for a very easy Taiko difficulty because even thought the objects are placed in a consistent manner, there are huge gaps between every objects, which is quite boring. - Be aware of the distance of your objects. For an Easy difficulty, I am always suggesting mappers to use the Distance Snap tool to make sure every objects has a consistent spacing between them. It doesn't make sense for such a low difficulty to have awkwardly jumps like that. Let's take for an example this circle: 00:04:800 (2) - . The previous spacing is 0,18x while the next object is located 1,83x away. In this case, having a 1,00x spacing between all yours objects will be more clean, overall.
- Be careful with slider shapes. I am happy that you are experiencing every aspects from sliders, but be careful for not doing unreadable or unfitting sliders such as 00:45:000 (1,1) - and 00:55:500 (2) - . The shape of these sliders seems pretty awkward considering the song and your general map. You might wanna try to get familiar with 3-nodes sliders before going into deep crazy things.
- 00:59:400 (1) - and 01:28:200 (1,2) - For Easy difficulties, it is not encouraged to use sliders with two or more reverses arrow, it might be confusing for beginner players. In the first case, you can easily transform this slider into two distinct sliders, or maybe try something else, while for the second case, try doing something else, for sure.
[Normal]
- A new difficulty arise! I'm suggesting you to apply every single suggestions from the Easy difficulty to any Normal difficulties.
- Normals are pretty much like easies, you should try to make it open to beginners. While the rhythm might feel more hard, try not to get crazy over it. Make sure everything has a meaning, again, and make sure there's a great consistency within your patterns.
- Distance snap is also a thing in Normal difficulties. It is always suggested to follow every objects in a respectable spacing. Once again, try to use the Distance Snap tool with a spacing of 1,00x. It will be cleaner if you take care of your spacings.
[Hard]
- This difficulty seems more organized than the two lower difficulties. However, you should consider the previous points to this difficulty as well.
[Insane]
- The thing that can be an issue here is the rhythm and the spacing, once again. As for the rhythm, you are not following the song quite well and every emphasizable sounds. As for the spacing, the emplacement of your objects might not be clearer than you think. The flow can be an issue and jumps are overly used in wrong manners.
If we take a look to these objects: 01:51:750 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - the spacing is misinterpreted, since it would need a jump from 01:52:050 (3,4) - because the sounds are louder to these objects (01:51:900 (2,4) - ) If you want to experience something, try to stack the circle (3) with the circle (2), it will feel better.
If we keep looking forward, 01:53:100 (1,2,3,1,2) - the lyrics are not well emphasized. The most strong beats are at 01:53:100 (1,3) - and 01:53:700 - 01:54:000 -. So, it would be better if the rhythm was something like this:
I hope this helped you a bit. If you have any question, don't hesitate to let me know. I'd be happy to help you out!
Topic Starter
Thanks Gabe !! You mod is useful to meGabe wrote:
hi, I come from #modreqs
[General]
- I'll only give you general tips on how to improve your stuffs a bit, since there is a lot of work before considering this for a ranked state.
- AiMod is a mapper's best friend. You might want to get familiar with this useful tool located in Files>Open AiMod or Ctrl+Shift+A
- Your timing points came to my attention. You are using many duplicate timing points with the same settings, which is useless since when adding a timing point with a specific characteristic, it is applied to every objects after the timing point you've set until you add a new timing point with other settings. You should take a look to these and clean that up! Also, talking about these, it's not suggested to use 100% volume points, so I'm suggesting you to make it lower :p
[Easy]
- You should take a look at the rhythm of your objects, how they could emphasize the song's elements such as the instruments, the vocals, etc.
I've noticed that you were going too basic on what you are doing. I know it is a 200BPM song and this difficulty is labeled as an Easy difficulty, you should consider spicing it up to make sure everything makes sense and to make sure every object has a meaning. For an example, 00:00:600 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I can consider this for a very easy Taiko difficulty because even thought the objects are placed in a consistent manner, there are huge gaps between every objects, which is quite boring.- Be aware of the distance of your objects. For an Easy difficulty, I am always suggesting mappers to use the Distance Snap tool to make sure every objects has a consistent spacing between them. It doesn't make sense for such a low difficulty to have awkwardly jumps like that. Let's take for an example this circle: 00:04:800 (2) - . The previous spacing is 0,18x while the next object is located 1,83x away. In this case, having a 1,00x spacing between all yours objects will be more clean, overall.
- Be careful with slider shapes. I am happy that you are experiencing every aspects from sliders, but be careful for not doing unreadable or unfitting sliders such as 00:45:000 (1,1) - and 00:55:500 (2) - . The shape of these sliders seems pretty awkward considering the song and your general map. You might wanna try to get familiar with 3-nodes sliders before going into deep crazy things.
- 00:59:400 (1) - and 01:28:200 (1,2) - For Easy difficulties, it is not encouraged to use sliders with two or more reverses arrow, it might be confusing for beginner players. In the first case, you can easily transform this slider into two distinct sliders, or maybe try something else, while for the second case, try doing something else, for sure.
[Normal]
- A new difficulty arise! I'm suggesting you to apply every single suggestions from the Easy difficulty to any Normal difficulties.
- Normals are pretty much like easies, you should try to make it open to beginners. While the rhythm might feel more hard, try not to get crazy over it. Make sure everything has a meaning, again, and make sure there's a great consistency within your patterns.
- Distance snap is also a thing in Normal difficulties. It is always suggested to follow every objects in a respectable spacing. Once again, try to use the Distance Snap tool with a spacing of 1,00x. It will be cleaner if you take care of your spacings.
[Hard]
- This difficulty seems more organized than the two lower difficulties. However, you should consider the previous points to this difficulty as well.
[Insane]
- The thing that can be an issue here is the rhythm and the spacing, once again. As for the rhythm, you are not following the song quite well and every emphasizable sounds. As for the spacing, the emplacement of your objects might not be clearer than you think. The flow can be an issue and jumps are overly used in wrong manners.
If we take a look to these objects: 01:51:750 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - the spacing is misinterpreted, since it would need a jump from 01:52:050 (3,4) - because the sounds are louder to these objects (01:51:900 (2,4) - ) If you want to experience something, try to stack the circle (3) with the circle (2), it will feel better.
If we keep looking forward, 01:53:100 (1,2,3,1,2) - the lyrics are not well emphasized. The most strong beats are at 01:53:100 (1,3) - and 01:53:700 - 01:54:000 -. So, it would be better if the rhythm was something like this:
I hope this helped you a bit. If you have any question, don't hesitate to let me know. I'd be happy to help you out!
and about tips too ! IRC Mod
18:04 Kyousukee: Hello
18:08 Kyousukee: actually 1.5 star above is normal , right ?
18:09 Dr_Marc: hi
18:10 Kyousukee: but why monstrata map have a easy diff with 1.5 star above ?
18:11 Dr_Marc: mhhh actually i think thats variable
18:11 Dr_Marc: monstrata is famous mapper so its not important
18:11 Kyousukee: ohh
18:11 Dr_Marc: most easy diffs are 1.0-1.5 and normal from 1.5-2
18:11 Dr_Marc: depends on song
18:12 Kyousukee: if want to rank a map , must have 4 diff , right ?
18:12 Kyousukee: my easy diff is 1.61 star . can i call it as "easy diff" or normal ?
18:12 Dr_Marc: mostly . If you are new, definetly yes
18:13 Dr_Marc: i guess.. mhh
18:13 Dr_Marc: since its 200 bpm its
18:13 Dr_Marc: easy
18:13 Kyousukee: oh
18:13 Kyousukee: thanks !
18:13 Kyousukee: that's all
18:16 Dr_Marc: Did you implement my changes aswell?
18:17 Kyousukee: can u update the latest
18:17 Dr_Marc: and all the latest mods?
18:17 Dr_Marc: yea i did
18:17 Kyousukee: it have 3 diff , right ?
18:17 Dr_Marc: what happened to normal diff, yeah?
18:17 Kyousukee: i want to make it a new
18:18 Kyousukee: my easy diff actually suck , so i change it & now i want to make a normal diff
18:19 Dr_Marc: oh on Insane:
18:19 Dr_Marc: 00:59:400 (1) - move this slider to here
18:19 Dr_Marc: to
18:20 Dr_Marc: 01:00:450 -
18:20 Dr_Marc: the end
18:20 Dr_Marc: same as here 01:58:050 -
18:20 Dr_Marc: 02:10:800 (3) - new combo
18:21 Kyousukee: oh !
18:21 Kyousukee: thanks
18:21 Dr_Marc: 02:10:800 (3,4,5) - same distance, triangle would be good,
18:21 Dr_Marc: and you can move (3) more away from (2)
18:21 Dr_Marc: eh if you made the combo forgot my last sentence xD
18:22 Kyousukee: okay haha
18:22 Dr_Marc: 01:11:100 (5) - id change that up, because players assume its a single note and note a slider going backwards
18:23 Dr_Marc: 00:19:800 (1,2,3,4) - make these into longer jumps since song emphasizes this part
18:24 Kyousukee: longer jump ?
18:24 Dr_Marc: yes
18:24 Kyousukee: i'm suck on jump
18:24 Kyousukee: i dont know
18:24 Dr_Marc: its not about your personal interest
18:24 Dr_Marc: its about whats good at song
18:24 Dr_Marc: not big jumps
18:24 Kyousukee: oh i see
18:25 Dr_Marc: but bigger spaced, and triangle or such pattern
18:25 Kyousukee: can give me some picture of longer jump ?
18:27 Dr_Marc: yeah ok i will
18:30 Dr_Marc: http://puu.sh/vtG6E/9b865fb7b2.jpg
18:30 Kyousukee: wow
18:30 Kyousukee: nice
18:31 Kyousukee: thanks !
18:31 Dr_Marc: shouldnt 00:33:150 - here be a slider as before ?
18:32 Dr_Marc: then: Changing this 00:34:200 (1,2,3) - out for a slider like 00:33:450 (1) -
18:33 Dr_Marc: here 00:34:650 - another 1/1 beat slider, if you know what that means (From white to white tick, or here, from red to the other red 1 beat apart)
18:33 Dr_Marc: here 00:35:100 - halfbeat slider
18:33 Kyousukee: hmm
18:33 Dr_Marc: that would be best for that part
18:33 Kyousukee: someone told me to remove that
18:33 Kyousukee: wait
18:33 Dr_Marc: what
18:33 Dr_Marc: why
18:35 Dr_Marc: oh yeah i see it, my suggestion is different though
18:35 Dr_Marc: try to map it and see if it works out
18:36 Kyousukee: 00:33:150 - at here it doesn't have sound
18:37 Kyousukee: why you put slider at there
18:37 Dr_Marc: thats why i said
18:37 Dr_Marc: 00:33:000 -
18:37 Dr_Marc: slider
18:37 Dr_Marc: instead of note
18:37 Kyousukee: that is sentence
18:37 Kyousukee: someone told me
18:37 Dr_Marc: oh wait
18:37 Dr_Marc: yes i see
18:37 Dr_Marc: dude
18:37 Dr_Marc: 00:31:950 -
18:37 Dr_Marc: hasnt a sound either
18:38 Dr_Marc: then you should remove all those sliders
18:38 Dr_Marc: xD
18:38 Kyousukee: hmm
18:38 Kyousukee: wait
18:38 Kyousukee: but it's good for play it
18:39 Dr_Marc: yes, thats why you should put a slider in every gap there
18:40 Dr_Marc: is that fine?
18:40 Kyousukee: thanks , you mod is better
18:40 Kyousukee: yes
18:40 Dr_Marc: i mod not good according to patterns , but im only good at hearing sounds owo
18:40 Dr_Marc: ok next thing
18:41 Dr_Marc: I think the slider should only go to here 00:39:600 -
18:41 Kyousukee: are pattern is important ?
18:41 Dr_Marc: quiet. You wont notice it, but every ranked map has them, but we play them intuitive
18:42 Dr_Marc: as example: 01:33:300 (3,4,5,6) -
18:42 Dr_Marc: and 01:34:500 (3,4,5,6) -
18:43 Dr_Marc: place 01:34:950 (6) - on 01:34:500 (3) - and
18:44 Dr_Marc: 01:35:100 (1) - on 01:34:650 (4) -
18:44 Dr_Marc: Placement wise
18:45 Dr_Marc: thats a basic pattern, it repeats the same as before but rotated, but same angles, you know ?
18:45 Dr_Marc: Thats why the player feels like to know what to play intuitive
18:45 Dr_Marc: ofcourse you can make distances greater on 01:34:500 (3,4,5,6,1) - and its still the same pattern but more interesting
18:46 Dr_Marc: maybe 1.5 distance snap for them
18:47 Dr_Marc: btw i added you as friend for more talking :3
18:48 Kyousukee: thanks !!
18:48 Dr_Marc: and i shoot kudosu stars at you because i love map
18:48 Kyousukee: shoot kudosu star ?
18:50 Kyousukee: sorry , i'm new mapper !
18:50 Dr_Marc: gives you point so more players may be able to see map
18:51 Kyousukee: oh !
18:51 Dr_Marc: have you done everything so far? Ill wait
18:52 Kyousukee: seem like doin' hitsound is hard than mapping
18:52 Dr_Marc: yeah its hard aswell xD
18:52 Dr_Marc: Have you fixed everything so far?
18:52 Kyousukee: yes
18:53 Dr_Marc: ok, then i wanted to ask if you fixed
18:53 Dr_Marc: "since it would need a jump from 01:52:050 (3,4) - because the sounds are louder to these objects (01:51:900 (2,4) - ) If" from another mod because it doenst seem like it
18:53 Dr_Marc: or maybe im dump
18:54 Kyousukee: hahaha
18:54 Kyousukee: i dont know
18:54 Kyousukee: what u reason abt that ?
18:55 Kyousukee: are need to jump ?
18:55 Dr_Marc: im unsure
18:55 Kyousukee: okay , i'll do both of them
18:55 Kyousukee: xD
18:55 Dr_Marc: oh i know the problem
18:56 Dr_Marc: you should maybe extend 01:51:450 (2) - to 01:51:750 -
18:56 Dr_Marc: then, always do 01:51:900 (3,4) - distances like 01:53:100 (1,2) -
18:57 Dr_Marc: ill show pic in a min
18:58 Kyousukee: yes
18:58 Kyousukee: i fixed it
18:58 Kyousukee: thanks
18:58 Dr_Marc: http://puu.sh/vtHuE/37063d5a12.jpg
18:59 Kyousukee: my timing point's so messy !!
18:59 Dr_Marc: timing points are fine for the moment
19:00 Kyousukee: oh
19:00 Dr_Marc: then 01:53:100 (1,2,3,4,5) - make like what i showed in picture
19:00 Dr_Marc: but rotated
19:00 Dr_Marc: CTRl+Shift+R When you selected everything
19:00 Dr_Marc: so just copy 01:51:900 (2,3,4,1,2) - and put it in 01:53:100 -
19:00 Dr_Marc: thats very useful i tell you
19:02 Kyousukee: the angle ?
19:02 Kyousukee: 90?
19:02 Dr_Marc: what do you mean?
19:02 Dr_Marc: ah
19:02 Kyousukee: sory
19:02 Kyousukee: what the function of that ?
19:02 Dr_Marc: ok.. eh. Yes. Either that or 180
19:02 Dr_Marc: function of what ? owo
19:03 Kyousukee: ctrl+shift+r = ?
19:03 Dr_Marc: yes, it rotates what you selected
19:03 Kyousukee: okay , i got it !
19:05 Dr_Marc: mhhh
19:06 Dr_Marc: i think thats it for now You can update. Ill post this on thread as irc content as log
18:08 Kyousukee: actually 1.5 star above is normal , right ?
18:09 Dr_Marc: hi
18:10 Kyousukee: but why monstrata map have a easy diff with 1.5 star above ?
18:11 Dr_Marc: mhhh actually i think thats variable
18:11 Dr_Marc: monstrata is famous mapper so its not important
18:11 Kyousukee: ohh
18:11 Dr_Marc: most easy diffs are 1.0-1.5 and normal from 1.5-2
18:11 Dr_Marc: depends on song
18:12 Kyousukee: if want to rank a map , must have 4 diff , right ?
18:12 Kyousukee: my easy diff is 1.61 star . can i call it as "easy diff" or normal ?
18:12 Dr_Marc: mostly . If you are new, definetly yes
18:13 Dr_Marc: i guess.. mhh
18:13 Dr_Marc: since its 200 bpm its
18:13 Dr_Marc: easy
18:13 Kyousukee: oh
18:13 Kyousukee: thanks !
18:13 Kyousukee: that's all
18:16 Dr_Marc: Did you implement my changes aswell?
18:17 Kyousukee: can u update the latest
18:17 Dr_Marc: and all the latest mods?
18:17 Dr_Marc: yea i did
18:17 Kyousukee: it have 3 diff , right ?
18:17 Dr_Marc: what happened to normal diff, yeah?
18:17 Kyousukee: i want to make it a new
18:18 Kyousukee: my easy diff actually suck , so i change it & now i want to make a normal diff
18:19 Dr_Marc: oh on Insane:
18:19 Dr_Marc: 00:59:400 (1) - move this slider to here
18:19 Dr_Marc: to
18:20 Dr_Marc: 01:00:450 -
18:20 Dr_Marc: the end
18:20 Dr_Marc: same as here 01:58:050 -
18:20 Dr_Marc: 02:10:800 (3) - new combo
18:21 Kyousukee: oh !
18:21 Kyousukee: thanks
18:21 Dr_Marc: 02:10:800 (3,4,5) - same distance, triangle would be good,
18:21 Dr_Marc: and you can move (3) more away from (2)
18:21 Dr_Marc: eh if you made the combo forgot my last sentence xD
18:22 Kyousukee: okay haha
18:22 Dr_Marc: 01:11:100 (5) - id change that up, because players assume its a single note and note a slider going backwards
18:23 Dr_Marc: 00:19:800 (1,2,3,4) - make these into longer jumps since song emphasizes this part
18:24 Kyousukee: longer jump ?
18:24 Dr_Marc: yes
18:24 Kyousukee: i'm suck on jump
18:24 Kyousukee: i dont know
18:24 Dr_Marc: its not about your personal interest
18:24 Dr_Marc: its about whats good at song
18:24 Dr_Marc: not big jumps
18:24 Kyousukee: oh i see
18:25 Dr_Marc: but bigger spaced, and triangle or such pattern
18:25 Kyousukee: can give me some picture of longer jump ?
18:27 Dr_Marc: yeah ok i will
18:30 Dr_Marc: http://puu.sh/vtG6E/9b865fb7b2.jpg
18:30 Kyousukee: wow
18:30 Kyousukee: nice
18:31 Kyousukee: thanks !
18:31 Dr_Marc: shouldnt 00:33:150 - here be a slider as before
?18:32 Dr_Marc: then: Changing this 00:34:200 (1,2,3) - out for a slider like 00:33:450 (1) -
18:33 Dr_Marc: here 00:34:650 - another 1/1 beat slider, if you know what that means (From white to white tick, or here, from red to the other red 1 beat apart)
18:33 Dr_Marc: here 00:35:100 - halfbeat slider
18:33 Kyousukee: hmm
18:33 Dr_Marc: that would be best for that part
18:33 Kyousukee: someone told me to remove that
18:33 Kyousukee: wait
18:33 Dr_Marc: what
18:33 Dr_Marc: why
18:35 Dr_Marc: oh yeah i see it, my suggestion is different though
18:35 Dr_Marc: try to map it and see if it works out
18:36 Kyousukee: 00:33:150 - at here it doesn't have sound
18:37 Kyousukee: why you put slider at there
18:37 Dr_Marc: thats why i said
18:37 Dr_Marc: 00:33:000 -
18:37 Dr_Marc: slider
18:37 Dr_Marc: instead of note
18:37 Kyousukee: that is sentence
18:37 Kyousukee: someone told me
18:37 Dr_Marc: oh wait
18:37 Dr_Marc: yes i see
18:37 Dr_Marc: dude
18:37 Dr_Marc: 00:31:950 -
18:37 Dr_Marc: hasnt a sound either
18:38 Dr_Marc: then you should remove all those sliders
18:38 Dr_Marc: xD
18:38 Kyousukee: hmm
18:38 Kyousukee: wait
18:38 Kyousukee: but it's good for play it
18:39 Dr_Marc: yes, thats why you should put a slider in every gap there
18:40 Dr_Marc: is that fine?
18:40 Kyousukee: thanks , you mod is better
18:40 Kyousukee: yes
18:40 Dr_Marc: i mod not good according to patterns , but im only good at hearing sounds owo
18:40 Dr_Marc: ok next thing
18:41 Dr_Marc: I think the slider should only go to here 00:39:600 -
18:41 Kyousukee: are pattern is important ?
18:41 Dr_Marc: quiet. You wont notice it, but every ranked map has them, but we play them intuitive
18:42 Dr_Marc: as example: 01:33:300 (3,4,5,6) -
18:42 Dr_Marc: and 01:34:500 (3,4,5,6) -
18:43 Dr_Marc: place 01:34:950 (6) - on 01:34:500 (3) - and
18:44 Dr_Marc: 01:35:100 (1) - on 01:34:650 (4) -
18:44 Dr_Marc: Placement wise
18:45 Dr_Marc: thats a basic pattern, it repeats the same as before but rotated, but same angles, you know ?
18:45 Dr_Marc: Thats why the player feels like to know what to play intuitive
18:45 Dr_Marc: ofcourse you can make distances greater on 01:34:500 (3,4,5,6,1) - and its still the same pattern but more interesting
18:46 Dr_Marc: maybe 1.5 distance snap for them
18:47 Dr_Marc: btw i added you as friend for more talking :3
18:48 Kyousukee: thanks !!
18:48 Dr_Marc: and i shoot kudosu stars at you because i love map
18:48 Kyousukee: shoot kudosu star ?
18:50 Kyousukee: sorry , i'm new mapper !
18:50 Dr_Marc: gives you point so more players may be able to see map
18:51 Kyousukee: oh !
18:51 Dr_Marc: have you done everything so far? Ill wait
18:52 Kyousukee: seem like doin' hitsound is hard than mapping
18:52 Dr_Marc: yeah its hard aswell xD
18:52 Dr_Marc: Have you fixed everything so far?
18:52 Kyousukee: yes
18:53 Dr_Marc: ok, then i wanted to ask if you fixed
18:53 Dr_Marc: "since it would need a jump from 01:52:050 (3,4) - because the sounds are louder to these objects (01:51:900 (2,4) - ) If" from another mod because it doenst seem like it
18:53 Dr_Marc: or maybe im dump
18:54 Kyousukee: hahaha
18:54 Kyousukee: i dont know
18:54 Kyousukee: what u reason abt that ?
18:55 Kyousukee: are need to jump ?
18:55 Dr_Marc: im unsure
18:55 Kyousukee: okay , i'll do both of them
18:55 Kyousukee: xD
18:55 Dr_Marc: oh i know the problem
18:56 Dr_Marc: you should maybe extend 01:51:450 (2) - to 01:51:750 -
18:56 Dr_Marc: then, always do 01:51:900 (3,4) - distances like 01:53:100 (1,2) -
18:57 Dr_Marc: ill show pic in a min
18:58 Kyousukee: yes
18:58 Kyousukee: i fixed it
18:58 Kyousukee: thanks
18:58 Dr_Marc: http://puu.sh/vtHuE/37063d5a12.jpg
18:59 Kyousukee: my timing point's so messy !!
18:59 Dr_Marc: timing points are fine for the moment
19:00 Kyousukee: oh
19:00 Dr_Marc: then 01:53:100 (1,2,3,4,5) - make like what i showed in picture
19:00 Dr_Marc: but rotated
19:00 Dr_Marc: CTRl+Shift+R When you selected everything
19:00 Dr_Marc: so just copy 01:51:900 (2,3,4,1,2) - and put it in 01:53:100 -
19:00 Dr_Marc: thats very useful i tell you
19:02 Kyousukee: the angle ?
19:02 Kyousukee: 90?
19:02 Dr_Marc: what do you mean?
19:02 Dr_Marc: ah
19:02 Kyousukee: sory
19:02 Kyousukee: what the function of that ?
19:02 Dr_Marc: ok.. eh. Yes. Either that or 180
19:02 Dr_Marc: function of what ? owo
19:03 Kyousukee: ctrl+shift+r = ?
19:03 Dr_Marc: yes, it rotates what you selected
19:03 Kyousukee: okay , i got it !
19:05 Dr_Marc: mhhh
19:06 Dr_Marc: i think thats it for now
You can update. Ill post this on thread as irc content as logok since ur a malay this is my first malay language post kappa
meh abam lanje satu mod
banyak kena buat sebelum map ni kena rank.
Good luck o/
meh abam lanje satu mod
General
- Tengok setiap diffculty ada dua garis hijau sama
Mod
Easy
00:02:400 (4) - Gerakkan ke kiri sikit (x:40 y:212)
00:02:700 (5) - katakan kau gerakkan 00:02:400 (4) - , gerakkan slider ni sekali kasi dekat sikit ikut DS. Lepas tu slider punya badan gerak ke kiri (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7907679)
00:06:300 (3,4,5) - Tiga-tiga ni bertindih (overlap). Berterabur aku tengok. Gerakkan jangan bagi bertindih sebab sekarang nampak tak kemas
00:13:200 (4,7) - Dua ni pun bertindih. Nampak tak kemas
00:24:000 (4,5) - ^
00:30:300 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Aku rasa cara kau letak ni boleh buat orang yang nak mula main tersalah baca bahagian ni. Cuba buat macam ni :
00:41:700 (3,5) - Masa aku main, memang tak boleh tak perasan la dua ni bertindih.
00:55:500 (4) - Cuba naikkan badan dia ke atas jadikan segi empat
01:33:300 (5,7) - Bertindih. Gerakkan mana2 slider jangan kasi bertindih
01:37:200 (4,1) - ^
02:05:100 (7,8) - ^
02:08:700 (5,6,7) - ^
Easy ni banyak sangat bertindih dengan slider. Lain kali kalau buat Easy jangan bagi mana2 badan slider bertindih antara satu sama lain. Memang nampak tak kemas
00:02:700 (5) - katakan kau gerakkan 00:02:400 (4) - , gerakkan slider ni sekali kasi dekat sikit ikut DS. Lepas tu slider punya badan gerak ke kiri (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7907679)
00:06:300 (3,4,5) - Tiga-tiga ni bertindih (overlap). Berterabur aku tengok. Gerakkan jangan bagi bertindih sebab sekarang nampak tak kemas
00:13:200 (4,7) - Dua ni pun bertindih. Nampak tak kemas
00:24:000 (4,5) - ^
00:30:300 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Aku rasa cara kau letak ni boleh buat orang yang nak mula main tersalah baca bahagian ni. Cuba buat macam ni :
00:41:700 (3,5) - Masa aku main, memang tak boleh tak perasan la dua ni bertindih.
00:55:500 (4) - Cuba naikkan badan dia ke atas jadikan segi empat
01:33:300 (5,7) - Bertindih. Gerakkan mana2 slider jangan kasi bertindih
01:37:200 (4,1) - ^
02:05:100 (7,8) - ^
02:08:700 (5,6,7) - ^
Easy ni banyak sangat bertindih dengan slider. Lain kali kalau buat Easy jangan bagi mana2 badan slider bertindih antara satu sama lain. Memang nampak tak kemas
Insane
00:37:800 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - cara kau letak tak ada bentuk. Nampak bosan kalau main
00:59:400 (1,1) - panjang semacam slider dia :O
01:25:800 (2,3) - slider apa ni xD
00:59:400 (1,1) - panjang semacam slider dia :O
01:25:800 (2,3) - slider apa ni xD
banyak kena buat sebelum map ni kena rank.
Good luck o/
Topic Starter
Thanks for modding !Winter Story wrote:
ok since ur a malay this is my first malay language post kappa
meh abam lanje satu modGeneral- Tengok setiap diffculty ada dua garis hijau samaMod* Slider ular xDEasy
00:02:400 (4) - Gerakkan ke kiri sikit (x:40 y:212)* Okay ! thanks !!
00:02:700 (5) - katakan kau gerakkan 00:02:400 (4) - , gerakkan slider ni sekali kasi dekat sikit ikut DS. Lepas tu slider punya badan gerak ke kiri (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7907679)
00:06:300 (3,4,5) - Tiga-tiga ni bertindih (overlap). Berterabur aku tengok. Gerakkan jangan bagi bertindih sebab sekarang nampak tak kemas
00:13:200 (4,7) - Dua ni pun bertindih. Nampak tak kemas
00:24:000 (4,5) - ^
00:30:300 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Aku rasa cara kau letak ni boleh buat orang yang nak mula main tersalah baca bahagian ni. Cuba buat macam ni :
00:41:700 (3,5) - Masa aku main, memang tak boleh tak perasan la dua ni bertindih.
00:55:500 (4) - Cuba naikkan badan dia ke atas jadikan segi empat
01:33:300 (5,7) - Bertindih. Gerakkan mana2 slider jangan kasi bertindih
01:37:200 (4,1) - ^
02:05:100 (7,8) - ^
02:08:700 (5,6,7) - ^
Easy ni banyak sangat bertindih dengan slider. Lain kali kalau buat Easy jangan bagi mana2 badan slider bertindih antara satu sama lain. Memang nampak tak kemas
Insane
00:37:800 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - cara kau letak tak ada bentuk. Nampak bosan kalau main * kan ! aku dah tukar
00:59:400 (1,1) - panjang semacam slider dia :O * Aku pendekkan sikit
01:25:800 (2,3) - slider apa ni xD
banyak kena buat sebelum map ni kena rank. * Yup !
Good luck o/
from my nm queue
Dr_Marcs Extra
GL!General: I got a yelling too, but don't change the bpm for sliders if you want this ranked. Also, I recommend using blankets because this map looks like it was supposed to be from 2013. Also, I stopped on yelling at nc's cause either you can figure that yourself or leave it.
- 00:03:000 (1) - make this head on the same curve with 00:02:550 (6,7,1) - ;00:03:900 (2) - make this one also the same curve as 00:02:550 (6,7,1)
- 00:05:100 (1) - i dont think there's a reason to nc this
- 00:10:200 (1,2) - revise this or change the slider shape; ends aren't similar and one has a larger gap than the other -- even though they might be the same slider --
- 00:12:600 (5) - make this look better
- 00:15:600 (4,5,6,7,8) - ds inconsistent
- 00:17:850 (2,2) - bad overlap
- 00:20:400 (4) - make this slider look better and nc it cuz sv change
- 00:21:600 (4) - stack this on 00:20:400 (4) -
- 00:22:800 (7) - blanket this on 00:23:400 (1) - to make it look better; same with 00:24:000 (1) - on 00:24:600 (1) -
- 00:26:700 (1,4) - bad overlap, if you want to do this, make 00:26:700 (1) - the same angle and move it a little to the bottom-left of 00:27:450 (3,4) -
- 00:28:500 (2) - nc because sv is 00:28:800 (4) - , even though it sounds weird ;/. tbh i would just remove 00:28:800 (4) - and remap it to the background sounds and remove 00:28:650 (3) -
- 00:30:600 (4,4) - not stacked properly; 00:32:850 (3) - bad overlap with it
- 00:34:650 (1,2) - idk if you wanted to stack this, but im pointing this out
- 00:44:700 (3) - nc
- 00:45:450 (7,9) - make this the same curve(ature)
- 00:47:700 (6,7) - sudden ds change?
- 00:51:150 (1,1,1) - ugly overlap
- 00:54:900 (3,4,5,6) - first, nc the 3. second, remove 4 and 6, make 3 and 5 into sliders. same with 00:56:100 (3,4,5,6) -
- 00:57:000 (2) - nc
- 01:08:250 (3) - make this slider look better
- 01:11:400 (3,4) - uhh, bad stack? also try nc
- 01:20:250 (1) - remove nc. same 01:22:650 (1) -
- 01:25:200 (1,2,3) - make these look better
- 01:29:250 (5) - turn this into a blanket for 01:28:500 (2,3) -
- 01:36:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - why did it suddenly turn into a smaller curve? also ds is inconsistent
- 01:36:600 (1) - blanket this with 01:36:300 (5) -
- 01:43:050 (7,9) - same problem, make this the same curve
- 01:45:300 (6,7) - ds change again
- 01:47:700 (4,5) - ds here is different from 01:47:250 (2,3) -
- 02:03:150 (3) - stack this rather than putting it randomly
- 02:04:200 (1) - move it down like what I said earlier
- 02:05:550 (3) - stack
Topic Starter
kookoo11 wrote:
from my nm queueDr_Marcs ExtraGL!General: I got a yelling too, but don't change the bpm for sliders if you want this ranked. Also, I recommend using blankets because this map looks like it was supposed to be from 2013. Also, I stopped on yelling at nc's cause either you can figure that yourself or leave it.
- 00:03:000 (1) - make this head on the same curve with 00:02:550 (6,7,1) - ;00:03:900 (2) - make this one also the same curve as 00:02:550 (6,7,1)
- 00:05:100 (1) - i dont think there's a reason to nc this
- 00:10:200 (1,2) - revise this or change the slider shape; ends aren't similar and one has a larger gap than the other -- even though they might be the same slider --
- 00:12:600 (5) - make this look better
- 00:15:600 (4,5,6,7,8) - ds inconsistent
- 00:17:850 (2,2) - bad overlap
- 00:20:400 (4) - make this slider look better and nc it cuz sv change
- 00:21:600 (4) - stack this on 00:20:400 (4) -
- 00:22:800 (7) - blanket this on 00:23:400 (1) - to make it look better; same with 00:24:000 (1) - on 00:24:600 (1) -
- 00:26:700 (1,4) - bad overlap, if you want to do this, make 00:26:700 (1) - the same angle and move it a little to the bottom-left of 00:27:450 (3,4) -
- 00:28:500 (2) - nc because sv is 00:28:800 (4) - , even though it sounds weird ;/. tbh i would just remove 00:28:800 (4) - and remap it to the background sounds and remove 00:28:650 (3) -
- 00:30:600 (4,4) - not stacked properly; 00:32:850 (3) - bad overlap with it
- 00:34:650 (1,2) - idk if you wanted to stack this, but im pointing this out
- 00:44:700 (3) - nc
- 00:45:450 (7,9) - make this the same curve(ature)
- 00:47:700 (6,7) - sudden ds change?
- 00:51:150 (1,1,1) - ugly overlap
- 00:54:900 (3,4,5,6) - first, nc the 3. second, remove 4 and 6, make 3 and 5 into sliders. same with 00:56:100 (3,4,5,6) -
- 00:57:000 (2) - nc
- 01:08:250 (3) - make this slider look better
- 01:11:400 (3,4) - uhh, bad stack? also try nc
- 01:20:250 (1) - remove nc. same 01:22:650 (1) -
- 01:25:200 (1,2,3) - make these look better
- 01:29:250 (5) - turn this into a blanket for 01:28:500 (2,3) -
- 01:36:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - why did it suddenly turn into a smaller curve? also ds is inconsistent
- 01:36:600 (1) - blanket this with 01:36:300 (5) -
- 01:43:050 (7,9) - same problem, make this the same curve
- 01:45:300 (6,7) - ds change again
- 01:47:700 (4,5) - ds here is different from 01:47:250 (2,3) -
- 02:03:150 (3) - stack this rather than putting it randomly
- 02:04:200 (1) - move it down like what I said earlier
- 02:05:550 (3) - stack
Thanks for mod
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