O T C M wrote:

first have some kudosu

place holder for my mod
edit: here is my mod

[Kantan]

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00:14:071 - 3
00:20:070 - 4
00:21:270 - 3
00:22:470 - 4
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00:26:669 - 2
00:27:569 - 112
00:29:969 - 212
00:33:269 - 8
--
00:33:869 - 201
00:38:668 - 10201
00:47:667 - 1
00:59:066 - 10202
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01:01:466 - 8
01:04:765 - 102
01:07:165 - 112
01:09:565 - 102
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01:15:864 - 102
01:20:664 - 20203
01:24:263 - 0
01:29:063 - 0
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01:35:062 - 11201
01:40:162 - 8
01:43:461 - 201
01:45:861 - 102
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01:53:060 - 102
01:55:460 - 201
01:57:860 - 102
01:59:960 - 8
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01:58:760 - 7
02:00:859 - 8

[Futsuu]

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00:14:071 - #START ?
(1/1) 00:16:170 - 22303040114
00:21:270 - 3403045
(1/2) 00:23:670 - 2020101020111
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00:27:269 - 10222
00:28:469 - 10222010201110201
(1/1) 00:31:469 - 20114
00:33:269 - 302010221

00:39:268 - 2210102
00:42:868 - 4
00:46:467 - 22112
00:49:467 - 22102011203
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00:56:066 - 22112
00:58:466 - 20112
01:00:866 - 5
(1/2)01:02:066 - 40222010201110201
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(1/1) 01:05:065 - 20112
(1/2) 01:06:865 - 10111020102220102
(1/1) 01:14:964 - 1221(1/2)112
(1/1) 01:24:263 - 102
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01:26:663 - 1020201
01:32:063 - 20112010221
01:40:162 - 8
(1/2) 01:41:961 - 2011102020101
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01:44:361 - 20201
01:45:561 - 40111020102220102
(1/1) 01:48:561 - 10223
(1/2) 01:50:361 - 4022201020111
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(1/1) 01:53:960 - 221
(1/2) 01:55:160 - 4011102010222
(1/1) 01:57:260 - 1122
01:58:760 - 5

[Muzukashii]

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00:36:493 - 0
(1/1) 00:56:066 - 11(1/4)200100102
(1/4) 01:00:866 - 400300304

thats all for now, i'm to tired to make more, may i will mod muzu and oni in the next days

Raphalge wrote:

hi from queue!

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[Inner Oni]
Firstly I think OD7 is way too high for this considering the bpm changes you have at the start aswell as some of the finishers further in. Also are those actually needed? In all the other Garyou Tensei sets I've seen they stick to a steady 200bpm. all the others probably don't have the beginning timed/mapped

If they are you should add SV changes to that part to make sure it stays readable. Pretty sure someone in Tasha's discord made a program for that.
i know i need to fix sv so i ignore this point for now
00:24:421 (1,1,1) - dkd? since 00:24:571 (1) - is a much softer sound than 00:23:972 (1) - and 00:25:171 (1) - also it's really confusing to mod when you NC every note
00:29:221 (1,1,1) - ^
00:34:695 (1,1) - ^
00:37:470 (1,1,1,1,1) - kdkkd? again for the reason that 00:37:770 (1) - is soft
00:38:970 (1) - k? not really sure how to make it work with the pattern but I strongly suggest having a k here somehow. no
00:48:719 (1,1,1) - think another dkd is due here
01:02:818 (1,1,1) - ^
01:22:916 (1,1) - think the background noise on these 2 is way too quiet to be mapped :S
01:24:115 (1) - ^
01:29:215 (1) - shouldn't this be on 01:29:140 - ?
01:42:113 (1,1,1) - kdk? this time it's cause the last note is crazy high pitch
01:46:913 (1,1,1) - ^
01:49:388 (1,1) - pretty sure 1/4 finishers are unrankable not sure, i will ask a QAT and add a screenshot after that
01:51:112 (1,1,1) - switching it up with a dkd suggestion
01:56:512 (1,1,1) - ...kdk? you did a pretty weird switcharoo at this part when it comes to your previous structure

[Oni]
00:24:421 (1,1,1) - mooore dkd suggestions at this point i guess you love kdk ?
00:29:221 (1,1,1) - ^and another one
01:02:818 (1,1,1) - ^they dont stop comin' and they dont stop comin' and they dont stop comin'
01:07:617 (1,1,1) - ^aaall that glitters is gooold <- this makes no sence for me
01:18:116 (1,1) - , 01:19:316 (1,1) - , 01:20:441 (1) - , 01:22:016 (1) - , 01:22:916 (1) - , I can't hear what these are mapped to
01:26:815 (1) - shouldn't this be at 01:26:740 - i tried to keep the red line for these tree notes
01:38:814 (1,1,1) - another dkd maybe?
01:42:113 (1,1,1) - kdk for that sweet sweet last-note pitch?
01:43:913 (1,1,1) - ^
01:46:913 (1,1,1) - ^
01:51:112 (1,1,1) - dkd reporting for duty?
01:54:112 (1,1,1) - dkd checking in?
01:55:912 (1,1,1) - dkd <doing something>?
i'm sorry to tell you, but kdk.exe wasn't found

sadly all I have time for but the set has a lot of potential! re: KD ,yeah, they aren't rankable

thank you for your mod

bank78952 wrote:

jason please
fast mod (because i wanna sleep again) same tbh
[oni]
01:23:216 (1) - move to 01:23:066 - and k
01:43:463 (1) - k?
[Muzukashii]
01:15:716 (1) - delete
01:23:066 (1) - K?
i can't modding taiko well D:

Yonakr wrote:

Hey ♥
You map the beginning for all the difficulties except the Kantan, you should do it i did?
nvm, of course i did. but i removed the beginning from Futsuu after O T C M's Mod. i'm sure osu is trolling me

Inner Oni

00:02:560 (1,1,1,1) - maybe change some d to k
00:05:734 (1,1,1,1,1) - kkkdk? for the acute sound at 00:05:734 (1,1,1) and it's highlight the sound at 00:06:369 (1)

00:09:953 (1) - k
00:09:620 (1) - d
^ to highlight the sound at 00:09:953 (1)

00:18:120 (1,1) - dk? to highlight 00:18:270 (1)
00:21:270 (1) - k for same reason ^

00:32:669 (5) - k because it's the same sound than before
00:34:393 - add circle here?

This moment seems weird because this sound 00:33:869 (1) is similar to these 00:34:019 (1,1) but you did k dd, so you should do something like :


00:35:368 (1,1) - dk?
00:36:568 (1) - d because the sound is descending

00:36:793 (2) - add circle here?
00:36:718 (1) - k to highlight the sound
00:38:218 (1,2) - same ^ if you that you should 00:37:918 (1,1) - k d

00:39:793 (1,1,1,1) - kkkk
00:40:393 (1) - k
00:40:468 (1,1,1,1) - ctrl G
00:40:768 (1) - d
00:41:593 (1,1,1,1) - ctrl G
00:41:518 (1) - d
01:00:866 (1,1,1,1) - k k d k
01:03:416 (1,1,1) - kkk?

01:05:665 (1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1) - this pattern seems weird :

this just got removed before i looked at your mod

01:08:215 (1,1,1) - kkk to differentiate it from 01:07:615 (1,1,1) and 01:07:015 (1,1,1)
01:11:065 (1) - k
01:59:360 (1) - k
01:59:960 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - You should do k or d everywhere because it's always the same sound

Oni

00:05:736 (1,1,1) - kkk
00:09:622 (1) - d to highlight this sound with a k 00:09:955 (1) If you do that, you should ddddk at 00:10:289 (1,1,1,1,1)
00:17:072 (1,1) - kd?
00:18:272 (1,1,1) - ddd or dkd?
00:32:071 (1,1,1,1) - kkdk
00:36:270 (1) - k
00:36:720 (1) - k because it's the same sound than 00:36:870 (1)
00:43:170 (1) - k because it's the same sound than 00:42:870 (1)

00:43:470 (1,1,1,1) - ctrl g
00:44:070 (1) - k
or ddddk no
00:45:869 (1,1,1,1,1) - same ^ ok
00:48:269 (1,1,1,1,1) - same ^ ok

00:44:369 (1,1,1,1,1) - reverse k -> d and d -> k nah, sounds weird
00:49:169 (1,1) - ctrl g

same logic until 00:59:668 (1)

01:05:217 (1) - k?
01:09:567 (1) - k?
01:23:066 - add a k? there is allready a k
01:40:164 (1) - k
01:43:463 (1) - k thats also allready k
01:45:263 (1) - same ^
01:48:263 (1) - same ^ thats also allready k
01:53:062 (1,1,1) - ^
01:49:013 (1) - d
01:49:163 (1,1,1) - kkk
01:58:762 (1,1,1) - ^

for the part with 4 "boom", in the Inner Oni and the Oni, I always propose you "kkdk" but "kdkk" or "kkkk" seems good

These are simply proposals
Nice map

1. Turn off Widescreen Support

1. 00:02:560 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - dkdkdk - Sounds you're following piano? It sounds too low to follow it :3
2. 00:07:595 (1,1,1,1) - Remove - Focus on follow the musical instrument is better, piano isn't loud at this part
3. 00:08:620 (1,1,1,1,1) - Remove ^
4. 00:10:457 (3) - Remove to get better effect
5. 00:15:120 (1) - Remove ^
6. 00:16:620 (1) - ^ ^
7. 00:17:070 (1) - D better I think, it sounds like 00:16:470 (1)
8. 00:19:920 (1) - Remove to get better effect
9. 00:22:770 (1) - Remove it and do below change - Slider is really not good for Taiko map
10. 00:22:770 - Add D
11. 00:23:070 - 00:23:520 - d ddddd to follow the thing?
12. 00:26:894 - Add d because it sounds like that
13. 00:32:069 (1,1,1,1) - Finisher? I think they are suitable to use it
14. 00:33:269 - 00:42:868 - Remap and try to follow the thing sounds like piano more carefully. The original patterns are too dispersion that make me can't distinguish what you're following
15. 00:45:117 - Add k? Here sounds have something you forgot to follow
16. 00:52:167 (1,1,1) - kdk because they sound like that :3
17. 00:54:716 - Add k? Reason same as 00:45:117
18. 00:57:116 (1,1) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch
19. 00:59:966 - 01:00:566 - Add d d d, and gradually slow down's speed change green lines? Just my personal suggest, because blank here makes me feel a little weird :3
20. 01:05:290 - Add d or k because it sounds like that
21. 01:10:090 - Add d ^
22. 01:14:065 (1) - Change to d to highlight the ring?
23. 01:16:464 (1) - d ^
24. 01:18:864 (1) - d ^
25. 01:21:564 (1) - Move to 01:21:864 - Because the original place has NO sound
26. 01:23:064 (1) - d to highlight the ring
27. 01:23:664 (1) - d ^
28. 01:23:664 - 01:29:663 - Just don't follow the scattered sounds, it's very strange
29. 01:28:988 - 01:29:663 - Remove useless green lines
30. 01:29:663 (1) - Remove because Slider is very not good for Taiko map, change to the thing I say above
31. 01:29:663 - 01:30:863 - kkk ddd kkddk k d
32. 01:40:762 and 01:40:911 - Keep 1.00x, reason see below
33. 01:49:761 - 01:50:361 - Why slow down, it's Kiai Time! After you do the thing above, let the speed changes faster
34. 02:00:859 (1,1,1) - kkk because they sound same
35. 02:01:459 (1) - K
36. 02:02:959 (1) - Remove
    
    Only mod Oni because I think it's enough
    The real reason is that I'm tired, sorry DX

Smallwu wrote:

Hallo!

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[General]

1. Turn off Widescreen Support

[Oni]

1. 00:02:560 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - dkdkdk - Sounds you're following piano? It sounds too low to follow it :3
2. 00:07:595 (1,1,1,1) - Remove - Focus on follow the musical instrument is better, piano isn't loud at this part no idea how to focus on the instrument there
3. 00:08:620 (1,1,1,1,1) - Remove ^ ^
4. 00:10:457 (3) - Remove to get better effect
5. 00:15:120 (1) - Remove ^
6. 00:16:620 (1) - ^ ^
7. 00:17:070 (1) - D better I think, it sounds like 00:16:470 (1)
8. 00:19:920 (1) - Remove to get better effect
9. 00:22:770 (1) - Remove it and do below change - Slider is really not good for Taiko map
10. 00:22:770 - Add D
11. 00:23:070 - 00:23:520 - d ddddd to follow the thing?
12. 00:26:894 - Add d because it sounds like that
13. 00:32:069 (1,1,1,1) - Finisher? I think they are suitable to use it
14. 00:33:269 - 00:42:868 - Remap and try to follow the thing sounds like piano more carefully. The original patterns are too dispersion that make me can't distinguish what you're following Probably a Guzheng? sounds like an offer to place a stream part there, so i will reject this
15. 00:45:117 - Add k? Here sounds have something you forgot to follow
16. 00:52:167 (1,1,1) - kdk because they sound like that :3
17. 00:54:716 - Add k? Reason same as 00:45:117
18. 00:57:116 (1,1) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch
19. 00:59:966 - 01:00:566 - Add d d d, and gradually slow down's speed change green lines? Just my personal suggest, because blank here makes me feel a little weird :3 no slow downs, i don't see a reason to add sv there
20. 01:05:290 - Add d or k because it sounds like that
21. 01:10:090 - Add d ^
22. 01:14:065 (1) - Change to d to highlight the ring? no
23. 01:16:464 (1) - d ^^
24. 01:18:864 (1) - d ^^
25. 01:21:564 (1) - Move to 01:21:864 - Because the original place has NO sound
26. 01:23:064 (1) - d to highlight the ringno again
27. 01:23:664 (1) - d ^ and again
28. 01:23:664 - 01:29:663 - Just don't follow the scattered sounds, it's very strange no idea what you mean
29. 01:28:988 - 01:29:663 - Remove useless green lines
30. 01:29:663 (1) - Remove because Slider is very not good for Taiko map, change to the thing I say above
31. 01:29:663 - 01:30:863 - kkk ddd kkddk k d
32. 01:40:762 and 01:40:911 - Keep 1.00x, reason see below
33. 01:49:761 - 01:50:361 - Why slow down, it's Kiai Time! After you do the thing above, let the speed changes faster removed sv
34. 02:00:859 (1,1,1) - kkk because they sound same
35. 02:01:459 (1) - K
36. 02:02:959 (1) - Remove no, it is in every diff a spinner at the end, and i like it there for the long sound
    
    Only mod Oni because I think it's enough
    The real reason is that I'm tired, sorry DX

=====
GL with Rank! :3

Nepuri wrote:

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Mod by queue!

----------GENERAL

Hitsounds are custom, i am not against it per se but id like to quote the wiki regardless that you are breaking a guideline since these HS arent neccessarily drums that i know of. "Custom hitsounds must be drum-related. If custom hitsounds are used, they should have deeper/lower tone set as don and a higher/lighter tone as kat."
Since its only a guideline, you should be okay with reason tho.
Bg seems fine.
01:29:213 - remove these green unused lines in all difficulties where they arent used.
Metadata seems satisfactory.

OD seems a bit too steep around Oni & Inner Oni.
I suggest OD 6 or OD6.5 for your Inner Oni since its a 200 bpm streamy kind of map, tho id prefer OD6 over 6.5.

HP seems too high on muzu, increase to 5.5HP to make the dip of HP that is usual at muzukashii noticeable?
Just bcuz HP is based on amt on notes and a steep jump from futsuu to muzu with same HP might feel steep.

Please even out the SV on red lines
00:07:427 - here,
00:07:764 - here,
and 00:08:287 - here

----------KANTAN

00:14:071 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - this part seems way too calm, even with the finishers, because:
->01:12:865 - you mapped a much more less intense part like this harder than said section.
Thus i suggest you put sound between the existing finishers wherever you see fit, because there are sounds that i feel like are being left out.

Your general use of Sliders such 00:22:770 (1) - is questionable since:
-> its short, ergo confusing for kantan players.
-> it starts earlier than the sound it would be most sensible to represent, making it even shorter if corrected (00:23:070 - ) it was meant to start with this sound 00:22:770 - but i removed them
Thus i suggest you replace those sliders with something more sensible.
More examples of said sliders having said problems:
>00:32:069 (1) - This one in particular can be replaced by a note on 00:32:069 - and a note on 00:33:269 - , forming a break which is very much needed with a combo longer than a kiai.
>00:51:267 (1) - doesnt make sense, you can replace it with notes follwing the whistle
>01:00:866 (1) - its too short, and can be replaced with 2 notes on 01:01:466 - and 01:00:866 -
>01:10:465 (1) - Can be replaced with notes corresponding to the cymbals, and/or leave a break, which is again needed very much.
>01:49:161 (1) - ^
>01:58:760 (1) - Plain wrongly snapped, remove this and remap it with circles firstly because of above reasons, and because in the after kiai part theres the loud bang sounds to map to.

The kiais dont differentiate between the musical patterns very well and/or are inconsistent:
Each Kiai repeats the same pattern twice, so i suggest (after taking away the sliders, which obstruct the structure of the kiai aswell as said reasons) you repeat the patterns to keep it consistent/ predictable for the Kantan player.
00:24:869 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - these 2 patterns dont line up for example, despite being the same musical pattern, they are inconsistent.
Please apply to all Kiais aslong as you agree with what i said.
i do not, cause i want it to be different
00:40:168 (1) - this note does not serve any real purpose, its mapped on nothing special really, not very good to find improvisation and quite weird 1/2 in kantans, i suggest you remove this note
01:26:963 (1) - ^

01:14:065 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - this music section is the same as 01:23:664 (1,1,1,1) -
mapped very differently, please make them uniform.

01:35:662 (1) - high whistle noise ignored, id suggest making that a k 01:34:462 (1,1,1,1) - is the mirror of 01:32:063 (1,1,1,1) - so it will stay d

01:40:462 - big gong sound ignored similar to 02:02:659 (1) -
I suggest you put it as a D then? no, there will be space between the slider and the Finisher, so i skip this sound

01:59:960 - again, please remove the slider and put circles around this point, the slider plainly doesnt fit.

---------FUTSUU

Ill start with the kinda obvious:
00:59:066 (80) - wrong snapping, move 1/2 back
00:56:966 (77) - wrong snapping, remove since 3/4 gaps are very weird for futsuu players.
01:00:866 (83) - please replace this slider, you can map to the bongo sounds which are more appropiate here instead.
01:10:465 (111) - ^ map to cymbals.
01:58:760 (81) - ^
00:22:770 (2) - ^
01:40:762 (21) - make this a K finisher to make it different from Gong sound just before it?

for reasons for those, read the Kantan suggestion on the similar topics.

Concerning the Kiai/Spread situation:
This futsuu contains pretty long combos, being in one league with the Kantan, thats good!
This futsuu contains moderate amount of *Simple* 1/2 for its combo lengths, being different from Kantan using multicolor 1/1 very frequently, you should take a look at the 1/2 patterns in your kiais and regard the pitch again.
Suggestions to make them multicolored (more complex) and sound better (my main reason is pitch here, if im wrong, im sorry):
01:42:561 (29) - k
01:41:211 (23) - d
01:43:161 (31) - d
01:43:461 (32) - k
I think this is the base difficulty you should have for each combo, feel free to modify other combos like this in the kiais to make them difficultily appropiate.
it's placed for a reason like it isit is alternating between red and blue
Otherwise not going to nitpick any further.


---------------Muzukashii

00:02:560 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - this, paired with the erratic SV changes and change in 1/4 and 1/3 patterns, might make this VERY hard to read for a LOT of muzukashii players, despite being a calm part.
I suggest you remove some 1/4 and completely remove the 1/3 to make it much more readable/playable for muzukashii level players.

Also remove this SV: 01:49:761 -
It makes the 3/4 finishers barely readable because of it, and we dont want that.

This muzukashii does not very well fit into the Spread at all. It is WAY too difficult from the Futsuu up, even if you accepted my suggestion to make it harder!
You should really, really nerf it before you change anything structurally/hitsound wise.

00:33:269 - in the silent part i advise you to not use 1/4 as much as you just did, rather just use a 1/4 to emphasize something special in there, and not spam it like it has similar intensity as the kiai, which it clearly doesnt have, because it isnt the kiai.
for example:
Remove 00:51:942 (1) - because the emphasis still works without it, also making the silent part easier, which is what youd want.
furthermore i advise you (after it has been nerfed) to put some more 1/2 without 1/4 for the piano, because seeing 1/4 with one 1/2 after and the rest being 1/1 in a 1/2 piano heavy part is very irritating.
For example: 00:37:018 - is a good place to put a d for piano!
and so on!

In the kiais i suggest you to do following to fix the spread problem:
01:02:066 - THIS kiai is the most appropiate one spreadwise, you should take this one, and copy paste it around if you like, but before that, you should remove some of the 1/4 like 01:05:515 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - , 01:04:165 (1,1,1) -.
This should make it much more appropiate in spread, thus i advise you again to take this kiai and make the others similar to it in density /patterns.


---------ONI
The obvious:
00:22:770 (1) - please map to bongo sounds instead of slider.

Spreadwise its pretty close to the Inner oni, especially with the streamy parts, making the inner oni not very needed in spread,
I suggest you nerf the streamy parts. 00:33:269 - etc.

structurally not much to say, my modding will also be not precise after you nerf it. please call me back if you want after you nerfed so i can check for other issues.

---------INNER ONI

This Difficulty seems very Conceptless and mapped seemingly arbitrary when it comes to the longer streams in the kiai, for example
00:27:869 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - this stream, where neither the pitch of melody, the melody itself as in position, the background beat, or the background pitch match up with the pattern.
01:05:665 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - same goes for this.
01:08:665 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - and this.
01:44:361 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - this.

Id like you to reconsider some of those patterns to make the correlation between them and the song much clearer, how is up to you, but i highly advise you you should do so.

Other things regarding pitch/pattern choices:

00:41:743 (1) - k because the pitch is carried from the previous note in a way, also makes it flow a little better.

00:45:867 (1,1,1,1,1) - this doesnt fit with the background beat you follow quite strongly here. consider changing for a better pattern.

One example when you dont know what to map to, what you seem to have the problem most of the time:
00:46:917 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - this seems mapped like it was arbitrary on first glance, and it doesnt quite sound well.
One Idea i can propose to you is to listen to strong melody sounds and mapping the k onto them for example:
Before:
After:

Other than those little things id also recommend you remap this difficulty, its riddled with inconsistencies and partly clueless mapping, that kind of kills the entire structure especially in the kiai and so forth.



-------SUMMARY

I dont think this Mapset will be going anywhere soon without fixing the major spread and mapping problems that are obviously present in your mind when mapping higher diffs.

When you ask for mods try to ask for a Spread mod, thats what you will need first before you ask for people to mod for hitsounds or the like.

Nevertheless i wish you the best of luck with this mapset!