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galvenize
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galvenize
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mercredi 12 octobre 2011 at 16:41:23

Artist: KOKIA
Title: EXEC_COSMOFLIPS/.
Source: Ar tonelico 3
Tags: Qoga Knell of ar ciel Tyria
BPM: 152
Filesize: 8713kb
Play Time: 03:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,14 stars, 197 notes)
  2. Hard (4,61 stars, 320 notes)
  3. Normal (3,48 stars, 245 notes)
Download: KOKIA - EXEC_COSMOFLIPS/.
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Ar tonelico III ~

Special thanks to FireballFlame for contributing with the hitsounds.

Skin used: CheZDa's Minimal1.8
Last edited by galvenize , edited 71 times in total.
Minty Gum
298 posts
Joined June 2011
Minty Gum
WOOT! Finally an Ar Tonelico song...Ar Tonelico music is so beautiful but underrated D: Not only an Ar Tonelico song, but an Ar Tonelico song with a great map! I like how you weren't afraid to put in some interesting sliders, and it's not ridiculously short like some new maps. But like any new song, it will need a little help, and here's what I think:
-1:44:00 - Make it into "normal" sounds from here to the end of the loud part...it's definitely a lot stronger and louder than the beginning of the song.
Spice it up with some sounds: Here's what I think.
-3:19:00 - It crescendos from here to the end, so I think it would sound pretty cool if you made the sounds get louder and louder.
-Whenever there's those big, orchestra, staccato-y notes (sorry for my horrible description of them, lol :P) such as 00:06:50, beginning of light blue slider 3, and 00:08:432, beginning of blue slider 1, put a "whistle" effect there.
-Just for fun / if you want - Add a kiai mode. Sparkly sparkly fun :3

Feel free to ignore any of this, because you might not find my advice accurate. Sorry I provided so little help, but it's just so good it's hard to find any mistakes. Keep working hard, and I'm excited to see this ranked :D Star~
galvenize
919 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
galvenize
Don't worry about the hitsounds, they're about to get done shortly, thanks for the suggestions though!
Niko
360 posts
Joined October 2009
Niko
 
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers
productive today? :)
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
[General]
I think a Normalhit sound on the downbeat (long white tick) of just about every measure would do a lot. You can either use a custom hitsound or switch back and forth between normal and soft. If you switch back and forth, you only have to do it once (copy/paste timing sections in each difficulty), but if you do a custom hitsound, you'll have to put that in every map. Now that I think about it, I could pretty easily use a text editor or something to get the code for the timing sections pretty easily. Shoot me a PM if you want me to do that. I suppose I should wait until you're done with the hitsounds though.

I think the 1/8 spinners are a bad idea. No need to have the note 1/8 before. This is circumventing the "no 2 notes on the same beat" rule. If you really like it, keep it though.

I could be rushing, but offset -10 would probably do better.

BG is 1 MB (ie huge)
you have 2 osb files, so delete them both.

A big zzz map. No errors I could find, though there were some non-perfect sliders.
FireballFlame
280 posts
Joined May 2010
FireballFlame
Hitsounds!

The clap is for the big white ticks on the timeline in sections like 01:44:730-02:09:993 :)
galvenize
919 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
galvenize

FireballFlame wrote:

Hitsounds!

The clap is for the big white ticks on the timeline in sections like 01:44:730-02:09:993 :)

MANY THANKS!!!
galvenize
919 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
galvenize

ziin wrote:

[General]
I think a Normalhit sound on the downbeat (long white tick) of just about every measure would do a lot. You can either use a custom hitsound or switch back and forth between normal and soft. If you switch back and forth, you only have to do it once (copy/paste timing sections in each difficulty), but if you do a custom hitsound, you'll have to put that in every map. Now that I think about it, I could pretty easily use a text editor or something to get the code for the timing sections pretty easily. Shoot me a PM if you want me to do that. I suppose I should wait until you're done with the hitsounds though.

Hitsounds have been taken cared of. reDL is needed.

I think the 1/8 spinners are a bad idea. No need to have the note 1/8 before. This is circumventing the "no 2 notes on the same beat" rule. If you really like it, keep it though. I think I'll keep it then


I could be rushing, but offset -10 would probably do better. I can not time correctly in the current condition i'm in, but I'll trust the one who timed it for me.

BG is 1 MB (ie huge)
you have 2 osb files, so delete them both. kk

A big zzz map. I know it's a zzz map, at least it's more zzz than what I'm used to map but how can you not love the song ;D?
Mercurius
Former osu! Champion: 2014
501 posts
Joined November 2010
Mercurius
8-)
XepherX3
625 posts
Joined September 2008
XepherX3
really nice map (∪。∪)。。。zzzZZ

force the minimal skin (it looks great on this map)

Star :lol:
Ayeen_old
316 posts
Joined October 2010
Ayeen_old
Catch, 'throw galvenize star'

IRC mod
18:57 <galvenize> : hey could you test a map for meh?
18:57 <Ayeen> : link?
18:57 *galvenize is listening to (KOKIA - EXEC_COSMOFLIPS)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32002]
18:58 <Ayeen> : but maybe 2 hours i think
18:58 <Ayeen> : waht diff?
18:58 <Ayeen> : i bug you when i back
18:58 <galvenize> : pick whatever diff you want
18:59 <Ayeen> : ok
18:59 <Ayeen> : someone just call me about works, ventilators. Have to go to hospital in awhile
19:00 <galvenize> : kk
20:57 <Ayeen> : back
20:57 <Ayeen> : lemme try some
21:11 <galvenize> : ah sry was afk
21:12 <Ayeen> : lol
21:12 <Ayeen> : easy and normal seem to be good
21:13 <Ayeen> : though no hitsound? o.o
21:13 <galvenize> : there are hitsounds
21:13 <Ayeen> : hard seem to be a bit too jump
21:13 <galvenize> : redownload 8D
21:13 <Ayeen> : oh
21:13 <galvenize> : there's a skin even
21:13 <Ayeen> : ah i see
21:13 <Ayeen> : rdloading
21:20 <Ayeen> : im not really fond with the slider ball
21:23 <galvenize> : > details :p
21:23 <galvenize> : didn't even noticed the slider ball lool
21:23 <galvenize> : notice*
21:23 <Ayeen> : it transperancy
21:23 <galvenize> : ye
21:24 <Ayeen> : btw, you should disable the skin recommendation
21:24 <galvenize> : yea good point
21:24 <Ayeen> : as you force skin already
21:26 <Ayeen> : 2 combo colors i feel is almost the same as background color
21:26 <Ayeen> : quite hard to see when in kiai time
21:26 <galvenize> : there is no kiai time
21:29 <Ayeen> : i noticed
21:29 <Ayeen> : still, you noted the combo color i mentioned?
21:29 <galvenize> : yea, but again I think myself it's quite visible the way it is
21:30 <Ayeen> : when using default skin before it quite easy because it less transparent
21:30 <Ayeen> : hitcircle is a bit transparent, making it almost the same as bg color
21:30 <galvenize> : i'll prolly change then
21:31 <Ayeen> : when you play using higher brightness, you know how annoying to hit
21:31 <galvenize> : true
21:31 <Ayeen> : now go to hard
21:33 <Ayeen> : did you change the stack leniency?
21:33 <galvenize> : didn't touch it
21:33 <Ayeen> : i see
21:35 <galvenize> : D:
21:35 <galvenize> : nice combo
21:37 <Ayeen> : haha
21:37 <Ayeen> : i suck at small circles
21:37 <Ayeen> : it shouldn't be a big issues
21:37 <Ayeen> : just im not used to small hitcircles
21:37 <galvenize> : :p
21:38 <galvenize> : it's middle size tho :D
21:38 <galvenize> : i can get it even smaller
21:38 <Ayeen> : that's that my mod i think
21:38 <Ayeen> : quite fast mod~
21:39 <galvenize> : all I asked you was just to play the map though xD
21:39 <Ayeen> : i wanna check something in folder
21:39 <Ayeen> : delete the countdown~
21:40 <Ayeen> : you doesn't enable it
21:40 <galvenize> : indeed
21:40 <Ayeen> : delete skin.ini
21:41 <Ayeen> : or skin configuration
21:41 <Ayeen> : it doesn't needed
21:41 <galvenize> : kk
21:42 <Ayeen> : everything else should be remain in there
21:42 <galvenize> : kk
21:42 <galvenize> : reuploading
21:42 <Ayeen> : just as I said before, I dont really fond with the slider ball >.> it too...
21:43 <Ayeen> : and if you can try to make the hitcircle more opaque if you dont want to change the combo color
21:45 <Ayeen> : got my message?
21:45 <Ayeen> : and if you can try to make the hitcircle more opaque if you dont want to change the combo color
21:45 <Ayeen> : dced jsut now
21:51 <galvenize> : i'll see about the colors
21:51 <Ayeen> : hehe
21:51 <Ayeen> : imma try a little on timing, wanna see what ziin say is right or not
21:53 <Ayeen> : your timing is right
21:53 <Ayeen> : ~
21:53 <galvenize> : didn't time this, can't really time anything with this crappy laptop so i asked somebody else xD
21:54 <Ayeen> : hehe
21:55 <Ayeen> : reuploaded right, lemme redload again if I got anything left
21:56 <galvenize> : sure
21:56 <Ayeen> : i dont think I wanna mod on pattern, skin and gameplay is should be enuff for me
21:58 <Ayeen> : slow net is slow~
21:59 <galvenize> : nah it's okay
21:59 <galvenize> : just post in the thread so i can kudosu you
22:05 <Ayeen> : >.>
22:05 <Ayeen> : delete "go", "ready"
22:07 <Ayeen> : and you might wanna change the bg from .png format to .jpg
22:07 <Ayeen> : it will reduce the size of the bg
22:11 <galvenize> : will do (cooking atm so afk at times
22:11 <Ayeen> : lool
22:12 <Ayeen> : k, i post in thread so you dont forget and give you some star
p3n
Global Moderator
947 posts
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p3n
Relaxing stuff you're doing here Galv ;)

[Easy]
Perfectly done. Only found some quirky sliders so if you want to correct them:
MP = middle slider point, EP = ending point, providing x/y coords (disabled grid-snap but who am I telling this :o ), .osu-code below
00:28:151 (3) - MP 437/142; EP 445/83
00:30:519 (1) - MP 80/137; EP 125/161
00:31:309 (2) - move to 207/195; MP 191/235; EP 145/249
00:32:098 (3) - move to 218/315
01:19:467 (5) - MP 75/146; EP 79/98
01:23:809 (1) - EP 381/202 (only if you want this aiming directly at (2) instead of previous (3))
01:56:967 (1) - I think this is fine as is but curving around (4): MP 163/305; EP 193/319
02:03:283 (1) - to aim at (2): EP 164/31
02:43:151 (3) - MP 202/234; EP 216/274
02:54:598 (2) - MP 27/183; EP 5/228
03:10:388 (2) - MP 128/116 (doesn't kill spacing)
03:11:572 (4) - MP 319/57; EP 372/47
SPOILER
392,160,28151,2,0,B|437:142|445:83,2,80,2|8|8

72,96,30519,6,0,B|80:137|125:161,1,80,8|0
207,195,31309,2,0,B|191:235|145:249,1,80,2|8
218,315,32098,2,0,B|306:315,3,80,8|0|2|8

112,176,79467,2,0,B|75:146|79:98,2,80,8|0|2

336,172,83809,6,8,B|381:202,2,40

156,280,116967,6,8,B|163:305|193:319,2,48.0000011444092,8|8|4

196,80,123283,6,8,B|164:31,2,48.0000011444092

220,196,163151,2,0,B|202:234|216:274,2,80,8|0|2

68,176,174598,2,0,B|27:183|5:228,2,80,0|2|8

180,120,190388,2,0,B|128:116|96:64,1,96.0000022888184,0|2

296,104,191572,2,0,B|319:57|372:47,2,96.0000022888184,8|0|2

[Normal]
01:57:756 (4,5) - Seems a bit strange here as it is so completely different from the rest of the mapping style in this diff. Maybe use a 1x repeat on (4) and just use a circle instead of the EP of (5). If you want to keep it this way adjust (4): MP 97/197; EP 55/184
02:41:572 (1,2,3,1,2) - Those sliders are not really symmetrical. If you want to use it (spacing up to 0,03 on spot):
SPOILER


178,281,161177,1,0
218,251,161375,1,0
172,230,161572,6,0,B|120:192|120:87|177:50,1,200,8|2
256,105,162756,1,0
339,53,163151,2,0,B|392:87|392:192|340:230,1,200,8|2
192,192,164730,6,0,B|176:264|255:298|328:264|312:192,1,224.999993294478
312,117,166309,2,0,B|327:45|254:11|175:45|191:117,1,224.999993294478
02:44:730 (1,2) - The custom whistles on the slider endings sound wrong here imo. If possible, use the same soundfile as custom slidertick to place them where they should be (middle white tick). Copy soft-hitwhistle.wav and rename to soft-slidertick2.wav but you probably know this.
SPOILER


[Hard]
Flawless...


I hope the mostly cosmetic stuff is at least a little helpful. I didn't expect to find much anyway...
So I'll leave this ~star here and go back working on SS-ing Gold Dust :o
galvenize
919 posts
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Topic Starter
galvenize
Thanks, I applied all the codes you've given me. As for the hitsound part, I just removed them on those sliders.

Kudosu well deserved!
Archaeologian
33 posts
Joined April 2010
Archaeologian
:o
S o r d a
1,576 posts
Joined July 2009
S o r d a
thanks req~

[overall]:
Fine


[Hard]:
  1. 00:58:941 - Add note
  2. 02:47:493 (1,2) - move note middle?

[Normal]:
  1. 00:07:625 (3,1) - Spacing
  2. 00:32:493 (4,1) - ^
  3. 02:02:098 (6) - 1grid down

[Easy]:
Fine

Great map :3
galvenize
919 posts
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Topic Starter
galvenize

S o r d a wrote:

thanks req~

[overall]:
Fine


[Hard]:
  1. 00:58:941 - Add note nah
  2. 02:47:493 (1,2) - move note middle? mmh, I new combo'd it.

[Normal]:
  1. 00:07:625 (3,1) -
  2. 00:32:493 (4,1) - ^
    Spacing spacing is fine, it shows x1.3 because the next slider's speed is at x0.75 :)
  3. 02:02:098 (6) - 1grid down ok

[Easy]:
Fine

Great map :3
laport
1,239 posts
Joined June 2010
laport
MoodyRPG
2,754 posts
Joined August 2010
MoodyRPG
[Easy]

00:41:572 (3) - Align with (1)

[Normal]

00:36:835 (5) - New combo
01:51:046 (3) - Align with (1)

[Hard]

00:39:993 (3) - Align with (1)

Star~
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
Hard

--AIMod complains these two notes aren't snapped 00:43:136 (4,1) -

01:53:020 (5,6,7) - I feel like it sounds better without combo 6. You could consider trying something like this?:
SPOILER
02:06:638 (2) - Unstack?
03:20:256 (2,2) - Horizontal flip?

Normal

00:18:727 (1) - I feel like this silenced spinner could confuse beginners. Not all that sure if you should silence...
02:31:506 (4,6) - I would delete these two notes

Easy

00:18:727 (1) - same as normal. Also, the note after the spinner seems to come a little too quick for an easy diff, or maybe not.

Awesome map! :3
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