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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 1:51:01 AM

Artist: NICO Touches the Walls
Title: Hologram
Source: 鋼の錬金術師 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST
Tags: Neoskylove SeaRasp Aurora Tatsuya Mitsumura alternative rock power pop
BPM: 162.76
Filesize: 3091kb
Play Time: 01:25
Difficulties Available:

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Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood's second OP!

Hard by Neoskylove
Insane by SeaRasp

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Last edited by Hobbes2 on , edited 62 times in total.
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Light Insane
Code:
 osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: -1
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Hologram (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Hologram (TV Size)
Artist:NICO Touches the Walls
ArtistUnicode:NICO Touches the Walls
Creator:Hobbes2
Version:SeaRasp's Light Insane
Source:Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6.5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:8.5
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"animebackgrounddotjpeg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Combo2 : 255,60,60
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Hobbes2 wrote:
I think the bitrate is too high, I'll try to find a 192 one but if someone already has one I'd appreciate it if I could use it.


Placing the audio file into Audacity and then exporting it will make the bitrate 192 kpbs btw for future bitrate problems

http://puu.sh/trOfE/469865a7e5.mp3 <-- 192 kpbs

Also while checking the new offset this is what I found:

BPM: 162,77
Offset: 1020

Good Luck!
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Kaitjuh wrote:
Hobbes2 wrote:
I think the bitrate is too high, I'll try to find a 192 one but if someone already has one I'd appreciate it if I could use it.


Placing the audio file into Audacity and then exporting it will make the bitrate 192 kpbs btw for future bitrate problems

http://puu.sh/trOfE/469865a7e5.mp3 <-- 192 kpbs

Also while checking the new offset this is what I found:

BPM: 162,77
Offset: 1020

Good Luck!


Thanks! I'll update this in a bit.
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looks you have big Nazi in this map,
00:01:013 - from here, SV changing greenline doesn't apply.
Why..?
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looks you have big Nazi in this map,
00:01:013 - from here, SV changing greenline doesn't apply.
Why..?


Looks like it works to me :o
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Code:
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Source:Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
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Thanks! I'll finish spread by a couple days.
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We're ready to go!

@NeoSL and SeaRasp, completely delete and redownload because I've changed mp3 and timing and all sorts of fun stuff.

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General
  • Rip Hard-LI spread
  • Default samplesets make me sad



Easy
I also look at Normal while modding this, so everything is spread friendly imo xd.
  • 00:01:019 (1) - The lull after this slider is cringey af. I kinda know that this is for the sake of relative density or something like that. Nevertheless i really think something like this is much better.
  • 00:06:364 (3) - move this to 00:06:548 cuz the beat is much stronger there. It's also more.. uhm.. related to 00:06:917 (1) - than 00:05:258 (2) -
  • 00:16:686 (2) - remove this for more emphasis on the guitar. It's hard to emphasize stuff in an easy diff but single layer mapping is one way to do that. Also,
    maybe add a circle at 00:18:345 to indicate that you go back to mapping normal rhythm at this point onwards. Leaving the drum and the vocal blank there is kinda awkward.
  • 00:29:772 (3) - two circles? uhh well ideally it's something like this.
  • 00:49:679 (3) - move this downwards so that 00:47:467 (2,1) - and 00:48:942 (2,3) - feel more.. mirrored?
  • 00:56:868 (1,2,3) - I understand that this is for the beginners, but imo this is killing the emotion, and the kiai hype. Why not just stick with the 1/1 sliders? Or maybe something like this if you want players to have a breathing space.
  • 01:10:139 (3,1,2) - ^



Normal


will get to the rest a bit later xd


NeoSL's Hard
I think you have some explaining to do
    The lack of jumps in this diff really concerns me, and the already scarce jumps pop up in places like 00:06:364 (1) - .
    If you take the first 7 seconds of the song, from 00:01:018 (1) - to 00:06:917 (1) - , I counted three jumps in total: 00:01:940 (3,1) - 00:06:364 (1) - 00:06:917 (1) -. Compare that to the kiai part, from 01:05:899 (1) - to 01:17:696 (1) - which has no jumps at all.
    Also, comparing 00:54:103 (1,2,3,4,1) - with 01:05:899 (1,2,3,1) - reveals another problem tbh; the vocals and stuff are very similar but there is a huge contrast in terms of rhythm densities, and to make matter worse the second kiai is stronger than the first, but the density doesn't follow that.
    The overall pattern looks clean and rigid, but this diff needs works on emphasizing, and difficulty slopes stuff. The kiai parts are really really under-represented right now.

    So, in conclusion, add more jumps in the kiais, and make sure the diff corresponds to the music's intensity properly.



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Brother
This one is too hard for me unfortunately xd. However, I have concerns about the slider-circle choice in the kiai. If you can explain it, then we're cool lol.
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no do not use the top diff name

General
timing is off on the first couple lyrics, move the first offset to around 1085 (idk did that in like 5 seconds), add another at 00:06:917 (1) -
Hitsound the opening section with whistles
00:54:103 (1) - kiai starts here since it's identical to the next one. if you want to do that emphasis thing you can turn it off for like half a beat between kiais
bg could really use a change. This song is really meant to represent the happier parts of the anime (like, it was played in the final episode too). Could really use a BG which is more happier.
would highly suggest you take the ending of the full version and stick it in here, spinner ends way too quickly

Normal
00:01:019 (1) - why aren't you follow the vocals here? nothing changes for the entire first 10 seconds
00:39:910 (3) - note density may be too high around here but fine
01:25:069 (1) - spinner starts and ends way too soon, thing about full version ending would fix
good normal :ok_hand:

Hard
00:12:815 (1) - This pattern gets really repetitive quickly, change it up a bit with different directions rather than just using the same rotation every time
00:18:713 (1) - Odd flow angle, breaks flow a bit https://puu.sh/uXUqn/6051ca6545.png
00:36:039 (4) - flows better if this is to the left more, could move stuff around
00:51:154 (1) - Add more flair to these sliders, could use some red slider points
00:55:024 (4,1) - flow doesn't emphasise vocals here, since your rhythm follows it
https://puu.sh/uXUdQ/d07b3e6fff.png
4 has higher pitch so needs more emphasis, but the angle used on it is wide, like 120 degrees ish. Slider head of 1 however has 60 degree which is much sharper, but the vocal is much softer so it needs less emphasis
01:01:291 (1,2) - flows too well with other parts for important vocal, can emphasise a bit
01:07:190 (1,2,3) - feels odd to play this
01:13:825 (3) - missed this, remove if there aren't any others like this
01:24:884 (6) - more spacing for final note


Insnae
00:03:783 (1,2) - These don't flow well, move 2 up a bit
00:20:004 (1) - could change a bit so slider is easier to follow with just a straight movement to the right. move up maybe
00:52:444 (1,1) - really uncomfortable in far right corner, move to x460 (01:11:798 (1,2) - same) also, overlap with UI is unrankable https://puu.sh/uXUST/fefa6a8d94.png
00:59:079 (2) - this 3/4 slider wasn't introduced well, had no idea it was there. Need to overlap with 3 for it to be readable, since your rules of flow are overlaps = 1/4 and not overlap/stack = 1/2 (01:14:009 (4,5) - same)
01:02:213 (4,5) - ya in a lot of places i'm feeling questionable about flow using curved sliders, since 5 is breaking it and not too sure why
01:09:954 (5) - overshot, move further away
01:15:853 (3) - hitsound
01:21:751 (5,1,2) - m feel like the need for you to use overlaps is killing spacing a bit in other sections as well, 1,2 is too big.
01:23:225 (6) - remove NC it really messes readability
01:23:963 (1) - slidertail is a bit of an overmap

expert
00:03:783 (1) - flow is dictating that tail should be the head imo but whatever
00:06:548 (2,1) - these curves will trigger people
00:26:086 (1) - overmapped, shouldn't have a jump for almost no sound. use a slider end
00:29:772 (1) - would flow a lot better if rotated more
00:32:906 (1) - this really doesn't follow the flow from the previous slider body
00:52:444 (2,3,1) - really difficult to follow bc cursor has to slow down while in the middle of big jumps. stack
01:16:221 (1,2,3,4) - too many objects on x261
01:20:276 (4,5,1) - spacing issue, 4,5 is way larger than 5,1 but 1 has the finish
a lot of these 3/4s could just be simplified to 1/2, noticable in kiai. There is a really clear guitar than can be heard on basically every 1/2 which makes me feel more of them should end on the 1/2s
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CrystilonZ wrote:


Easy
I also look at Normal while modding this, so everything is spread friendly imo xd.
  • 00:01:019 (1) - The lull after this slider is cringey af. I kinda know that this is for the sake of relative density or something like that. Nevertheless i really think something like this is much better. Relative density. No need to have a bunch of sliders in this really slow part with just guitar and vocal
  • 00:06:364 (3) - move this to 00:06:548 cuz the beat is much stronger there. It's also more.. uhm.. related to 00:06:917 (1) - than 00:05:258 (2) - This was for playability, easier to do a 1/1 gap then a 3/2 gap when you're new
  • 00:16:686 (2) - remove this for more emphasis on the guitar. It's hard to emphasize stuff in an easy diff but single layer mapping is one way to do that. Also,
    maybe add a circle at 00:18:345 to indicate that you go back to mapping normal rhythm at this point onwards. Leaving the drum and the vocal blank there is kinda awkward. Good idea
  • 00:29:772 (3) - two circles? uhh well ideally it's something like this. I see your point and I'll consdier changing this down the line. For now my rhythm should be okay too.
  • 00:49:679 (3) - move this downwards so that 00:47:467 (2,1) - and 00:48:942 (2,3) - feel more.. mirrored? Sure, but this feels like a fix to a problem that doesn't exist
  • 00:56:868 (1,2,3) - I understand that this is for the beginners, but imo this is killing the emotion, and the kiai hype. Why not just stick with the 1/1 sliders? Or maybe something like this if you want players to have a breathing space. Filled in the gaps.
  • 01:10:139 (3,1,2) - ^ Same.



Normal



Brother
This one is too hard for me unfortunately xd. However, I have concerns about the slider-circle choice in the kiai. If you can explain it, then we're cool lol. I followed vocals because that's more interesting than just spamming a bunch of circles to the drums imo.


Thanks for the mod!

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no do not use the top diff name lol, yeah it's pretty stupid. renamed it expert

General
timing is off on the first couple lyrics, move the first offset to around 1085 (idk did that in like 5 seconds), add another at 00:06:917 (1) - Implemented, actual offset was like 1050
Hitsound the opening section with whistles Eh...would rather not personally.
00:54:103 (1) - kiai starts here since it's identical to the next one. if you want to do that emphasis thing you can turn it off for like half a beat between kiais It's not actually identical, my kiai selection has the 1/2 drums everywhere which makes it more intense to me
bg could really use a change. This song is really meant to represent the happier parts of the anime (like, it was played in the final episode too). Could really use a BG which is more happier. Hadn't really thought of that, but neat point. I'll consider it.
would highly suggest you take the ending of the full version and stick it in here, spinner ends way too quickly I considered this earlier but decided nah. I like the abrupt end as it's what I'm used to from the show. Removed the spinner on the normal, but for the harder diffs spin fast I guess.

Normal
00:01:019 (1) - why aren't you follow the vocals here? nothing changes for the entire first 10 seconds Fixed
00:39:910 (3) - note density may be too high around here but fine shrug
01:25:069 (1) - spinner starts and ends way too soon, thing about full version ending would fix Deleted spinner.
good normal :ok_hand: thanks! I used to be terrible at normals but I think I've figured them out lol

expert
00:03:783 (1) - flow is dictating that tail should be the head imo but whatever Eh...it's so slow that flow doesn't really even matter here.
00:06:548 (2,1) - these curves will trigger people ya made the first one a circle lol
00:26:086 (1) - overmapped, shouldn't have a jump for almost no sound. use a slider end Not overmapped, there's a clear sound there
00:29:772 (1) - would flow a lot better if rotated more This is another one of this things where I don't think the flow actually matters due to the 1/1 pause.
00:32:906 (1) - this really doesn't follow the flow from the previous slider body Good point, fixed
00:52:444 (2,3,1) - really difficult to follow bc cursor has to slow down while in the middle of big jumps. stack Mm. PLaytesters haven't really had any issue with this, and neither do I. I'll consider this down the line but I'll keep it for now.
01:16:221 (1,2,3,4) - too many objects on x261 Is this an issue though?
01:20:276 (4,5,1) - spacing issue, 4,5 is way larger than 5,1 but 1 has the finish Fix
a lot of these 3/4s could just be simplified to 1/2, noticable in kiai. There is a really clear guitar than can be heard on basically every 1/2 which makes me feel more of them should end on the 1/2s Not really hearing the 1/2 guitars, I made those 3/4 sliders when there weren't vocals for me to map the red tick on because there aren't drums on the first white tick of each measure in the kiai.


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Your MP3 file is 128kbps you know what to do

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    00:09:497 (3) - This is not snapped

    00:06:396 (1) - Put inherited point exactly on red tick

    Everything else is fine idk what to mod here sry :/


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Easy


I tried my best to find as many things as i could it was really hard specially cause I'm not that good in modding low star diffs

Hopefully this mod was somewhat useful and GL with the map ! :D

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CrystilonZ wrote:

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  • 00:12:170 (5) - is this particular circle overmapped? Not really if you listen, the song supports it here and it doesn't hurt to simplify the rhythm
  • 00:13:552 (3,4) - eh a random stack? and why does 00:13:921 (5) - not have a jump on it? The music on 00:15:027 (3,4,5) - is pretty similar but the music on 00:13:921 (5) - is even stronger than 00:15:395 (5) - Yeah Kinda agree for consistency it's better not to stack
  • 00:16:317 (4,1) - these too. 00:17:054 (1) - is more important than 00:16:317 (4) - imo Well the pitch on 4 is higher so more spacing makes sense and also wouldn't want to change for the sake of structure
  • Judging from how you mapped the sliders, you are putting a lot of emphasis on the vocals. If so, consider changing sliders like 00:21:847 (2) - 00:33:643 (2) - etc to 2 circles instead. They start on a vocal alright, but end on a substantial, often stronger, vocal. Sliders still cover the vocals and they're better for overall flow
  • 00:52:075 (1,2,1) - dear lord no XD this is a light insane. Calm down. Yeah I agree
  • 00:40:647 (1,2) - should be the other way around i think. A jump on (1) and delete the jump on (2) Made equal distance
  • Decrease the jump distance on 01:03:503 (4) - or increase that on 01:04:240 (1) - for relative intensity reasons. did something else to fiz the emphasis problem


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Insnae
00:03:783 (1,2) - These don't flow well, move 2 up a bit Flows fine to me
00:20:004 (1) - could change a bit so slider is easier to follow with just a straight movement to the right. move up maybe No this is intentionnal and it plays fine imo
00:52:444 (1,1) - really uncomfortable in far right corner, move to x460 (01:11:798 (1,2) - same) also, overlap with UI is unrankable https://puu.sh/uXUST/fefa6a8d94.png moved slightly
00:59:079 (2) - this 3/4 slider wasn't introduced well, had no idea it was there. Need to overlap with 3 for it to be readable, since your rules of flow are overlaps = 1/4 and not overlap/stack = 1/2 (01:14:009 (4,5) - same) Hum it's introduced since the beginning of the section lol 00:54:103 (1,2) - so it should be perfectly fine
01:02:213 (4,5) - ya in a lot of places i'm feeling questionable about flow using curved sliders, since 5 is breaking it and not too sure why Fixed that one I guess
01:09:954 (5) - overshot, move further away ??
01:15:853 (3) - hitsound Yes
01:21:751 (5,1,2) - m feel like the need for you to use overlaps is killing spacing a bit in other sections as well, 1,2 is too big. kinda true but if the concept fits with the overall map it's fine plus these are 2 sliders so it's not that bit
01:23:225 (6) - remove NC it really messes readability arranged NCs
01:23:963 (1) - slidertail is a bit of an overmap Well it fits with the pattern


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