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TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size) [OsuMania|Osu]

posted 2017-01-05T22:23:06+00:00

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Antalf

Beatmap Nominator

258 posts

Joined August 2016

Topic Starter

Antalf 2017-01-05T22:23:06+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, February 6, 2017 at 10:23:28 PM

Artist: TK from Ling tosite sigure
Title: Signal (TV Size)
Source: 91 Days
Tags: anime opening drama action japanese rock
BPM: 167
Filesize: 22687kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:

EZ - 4Key (1.1 stars, 217 notes)
HD - 4Key (2.78 stars, 629 notes)
Insane (4.18 stars, 287 notes)
Julie's Easy (1.15 stars, 75 notes)
KukiL's Hard (3.11 stars, 195 notes)
NM - 4Key (1.89 stars, 425 notes)
Normal (2.01 stars, 159 notes)

Download: TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size)
Download: TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
e. Ready for mods! Any suggestion will be accepted gladly. Normal dedicated to Protastic101. Why? Because why not.(metadata and timing fixed. YES.. i do suck at note placement ill give you that..)

Re Download if downloaded before 1/18/17.
New BG"s and video added

Progress status

Progress:
Standard

Standard set done!

Easy - Done
Normal - Done
Hard - Done
Insane - Done

Mania

EZ - Done
NM - Done
HD - Done

The f

Thanks to:
Rianbow sheep for bgs and timing.
Snoopysnoop for play testing A LOT...
KukiLoli for the Hard GD
Julie for the Easy GD

Modders
Julie
Mom

Last edited by Antalf 2017-02-07T02:24:16+00:00, edited 38 times in total.

[ Kuki ]

75 posts

Joined January 2015

[ Kuki ] 2017-01-07T04:31:43+00:00

Clicky click

osu file format v14

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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.3

[Metadata]
Title:Signal (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Signal (TV Size)
Artist:TK from Ling tosite sigure
ArtistUnicode:TK from 凛として時雨
Creator:Antalf
Version:KukiL's Hard
Source:91 Days
Tags:anime opening drama action japanese rock
BeatmapID:0
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Antalf

Beatmap Nominator

258 posts

Joined August 2016

Topic Starter

Antalf 2017-01-07T04:42:29+00:00

[ KukiLoli ] wrote:

Clicky click

osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:TK from 凛として時雨
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Source:91 Days
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367,277,34387,2,0,P|357:221|336:203,1,70
251,175,34747,2,0,P|209:162|172:175,1,70
156,269,35106,2,0,P|109:278|86:293,1,70
156,269,35465,2,0,P|128:214|91:207,1,70
399,59,36184,5,0,0:0:0:0:
399,59,36364,1,0,0:0:0:0:
399,59,36543,2,0,L|399:159,1,70
248,275,37082,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,154,37441,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,154,37621,2,0,P|119:117|203:128,1,140
153,219,38160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
153,219,38340,2,0,P|208:223|280:178,1,140
200,110,38878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,110,39058,2,0,P|141:91|43:121,1,140
256,192,39552,12,0,42112,0:0:0:0:
425,60,42471,5,0,0:0:0:0:
425,60,42831,2,0,P|403:124|341:183,1,140
266,117,43370,1,0,0:0:0:0:
266,117,43549,2,0,P|228:134|212:165,1,70
305,209,43909,2,0,P|305:250|290:284,1,70
189,277,44268,2,0,P|135:298|50:258,2,140
70,59,45705,5,0,0:0:0:0:
70,163,45885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
70,163,46064,2,0,P|92:194|201:235,1,140
324,80,46783,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,80,47142,2,0,P|364:153|372:235,2,140
92,338,48938,5,0,0:0:0:0:
41,245,49118,2,0,L|101:193,1,70
166,123,49477,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,64,49657,2,0,L|281:139,1,70
382,131,50016,2,0,L|408:200,1,70
386,299,50376,2,0,P|336:337|237:342,1,140
177,283,50915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
177,283,51094,2,0,P|104:256|62:205,1,140
119,140,52891,5,0,0:0:0:0:
182,56,53070,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,137,53250,1,0,0:0:0:0:
119,140,53429,1,0,0:0:0:0:
45,214,53609,2,0,P|81:252|177:246,1,140
250,192,54148,1,0,0:0:0:0:
250,192,54328,2,0,L|280:266,1,70
378,231,54687,1,0,0:0:0:0:
378,231,54867,2,0,L|359:162,1,70
175,62,55406,6,0,P|145:101|34:133,1,140
186,305,56124,2,0,P|212:226|290:210,1,140
221,58,57202,1,0,0:0:0:0:
221,58,57561,2,0,P|124:95|101:139,1,140
150,327,58280,2,0,P|214:329|277:276,1,140
236,185,58819,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,185,58998,2,0,P|259:127|281:117,1,70
272,19,59358,2,0,P|317:39|353:145,1,140
238,290,60076,1,0,0:0:0:0:
52,190,60435,6,0,P|81:138|101:131,1,70
175,193,60795,2,0,P|210:155|214:131,1,70
170,42,61154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
170,42,61334,2,0,P|122:63|99:95,1,70
53,163,61693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
115,247,61873,2,0,P|150:277|183:282,1,70
251,212,62232,1,0,0:0:0:0:
251,212,62412,1,0,0:0:0:0:
251,212,62591,2,0,P|301:220|383:148,1,140
186,62,64388,5,0,0:0:0:0:
109,134,64567,1,0,0:0:0:0:
195,192,64747,1,0,0:0:0:0:
186,62,64926,1,0,0:0:0:0:
281,104,65106,1,0,0:0:0:0:
281,104,65465,2,0,P|319:135|340:224,1,140
144,296,66184,2,0,P|85:258|60:186,1,140
235,78,66903,2,0,P|285:84|343:164,1,140
184,289,67621,2,0,P|113:269|99:88,1,280
304,60,68699,5,0,0:0:0:0:
378,133,68879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
378,133,69058,2,0,P|368:187|321:260,1,140
129,177,69777,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,44,70136,1,0,0:0:0:0:
430,201,70495,1,0,0:0:0:0:
430,201,70675,2,0,P|394:264|262:283,1,210
72,57,71932,5,0,0:0:0:0:
219,206,72292,1,0,0:0:0:0:
291,130,72471,1,0,0:0:0:0:
291,130,72651,2,0,L|331:196,1,70
432,199,73010,2,0,P|413:234|367:259,1,70
286,276,73370,2,0,P|221:273|200:255,3,70
118,304,74088,2,0,P|105:250|148:174,1,140
62,72,75885,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,109,76064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,191,76244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
62,72,76423,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,191,76603,2,0,P|118:246|201:278,1,140
369,173,77322,2,0,P|349:105|280:82,1,140
267,183,77861,1,0,0:0:0:0:
267,183,78040,2,0,P|184:157|155:102,1,140
85,40,78579,1,0,0:0:0:0:
85,40,78759,2,0,P|58:95|74:175,2,140
414,299,80196,5,0,0:0:0:0:
316,339,80376,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,339,80555,2,0,P|255:311|212:248,1,140
302,62,81274,1,0,0:0:0:0:
302,62,81633,2,0,P|222:59|175:100,1,140
260,160,82172,2,0,P|249:206|155:246,1,140
42,60,83070,1,0,0:0:0:0:
71,161,83250,2,0,L|112:228,1,70
212,216,83609,1,0,0:0:0:0:
314,237,83789,2,0,L|328:166,1,70
334,63,84148,5,0,0:0:0:0:
230,41,84327,2,0,P|217:74|260:172,1,140
356,150,84866,2,0,P|393:204|390:237,1,70
336,294,85226,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,261,85405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
131,246,85585,2,0,P|134:178|151:151,1,70
237,158,85944,2,0,L|237:75,1,70
139,49,86304,2,0,P|88:83|79:98,1,70
62,192,86663,2,0,P|72:236|99:255,1,70
256,192,87022,12,0,89358,0:0:0:0:

TY, gonna be added asap!!

Antalf

Beatmap Nominator

258 posts

Joined August 2016

Topic Starter

Antalf 2017-01-07T04:59:47+00:00

Unnecessary post here dont mind.

Julie

1,416 posts

Joined March 2013

Julie 2017-01-24T02:34:26+00:00

Alright, just giving out some few tips to start with.

Tips

[Normal]

I'm just going to point out every point one time, instead of repeating myself, so you could actually try to figure out some similar point, since you are up for learning~ And I'm sure you don't want to read me repeating myself either xD.

00:05:904 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - You'll want to try to avoid this, since look at how cramp it is http://puu.sh/txAkw/d97d34a638.jpg.
The distance spacing here 00:06:443 (4,5) - isn't that big, and here 00:06:802 (5,6,7) - player have to click really fast, so it can be quite confusing, and hard to read for normal players.

00:09:677 (5,1,2) - Look at here, after finishing playing note(5), the end of slider (2) is right behind, which might cause Normal player, or average player playing with FL : http://puu.sh/txAp2/4a985a5ccb.jpg. Mostly when the head of the slider is like totally the opposite way, and super far from note(5), and note(1) is EVEN MORE FAR. Even if there is a huge 1/1 rhythm gap between them, player might chock by seeing the notes so far, while slider 2 is near, the might get confuse and try to hit note(1) too early.
While for example if you do something like this : http://puu.sh/txABQ/8e0929456b.jpg, player cursor will go on 1 slowly and then slowly flow into slider (2).

Now another thing you will see from a lots of modder in standard, is blanket mod.
I usually don't do blanket mods, unless is really dramatic looking slider haha.
So here 00:17:940 (4,5) - look at the difference between your pattern http://puu.sh/txAJZ/f376a6b508.jpg, and if you actually took the time to blanket, that's how it will look : http://puu.sh/txAMn/30909d20bb.jpg. Nicer don't you think?

00:25:305 (2,3,4,1) - Don't you think this is a lots of tapping notes for a calm part? Mostly for a normal no? The problem is, you are too focus on vocal + drum, yes we should follow those, but this is normal, keep the rhythm simple xD. You could do something like this http://puu.sh/txB0p/8a5e59e1ae.jpg instead, don't need to match every new word in the vocal.

00:59:617 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Aren't you rushing your pattern a bit? Look at that : http://puu.sh/txBcM/0789fae6d1.jpg. (5) touching (1), (6) being closer then (4) instead of (5). What if player don't have number and follow point in their skin?

01:06:443 (3,4,5) - Same rhythm but different spacing : http://puu.sh/txBjg/e96285c740.jpg. Usually normal and easy should always have consistent spacing, that mean the same spacing through the whole diff, some exception might apply with some few small SV or BPM change though, but here is not the case. 01:06:443 (3,4) - have 1.20x spacing and 01:07:162 (4,5) - have 1.02x. Sometimes is not noticeable in-game, but most of the time it is, just like in the screenshot. I can notice that either you went lazy, or you purposely changed spacing.

^ After spotting this, I realize that your spacing is really not consistent through your whole map, try to move your pattern so that every spacing is consistent.

01:16:862 (1,2,3,4) - Hmm, look at how it look in-game : http://puu.sh/txByR/d5e62e3c7e.jpg. Tons of bad overlap here, while finishing this slider 01:16:862 (1) - , you see slider (4) touching a bit the slider (1). 01:17:581 (2) - and 01:18:299 (4) - , these 2 are nearly touching each other. The editor is big, use as much space as you want, don't need to be all cramp up.

01:28:000 (1,2,3,4) - Really not suggested in both rhythm and pattern, rhythm is because there is basically movement on every 1/2 tick, even those small reverse slider are really short and quick, so this can be really too quick to play for normal player. Also in pattern, player have to consistently turn their cursor 90 degree and 180 degree (reverse slider) everything. Those reverse slider feel like it break the flow. Pretty sure you can make something more easy to play for a normal difficulty.

[Hard]

00:02:491 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This might look good, but it doesn'T feel right while playing if player try to follow the song, if you listen the main sound, you can feel there is some change, is not repeating 3 times, yet you do 3 same pattern. Also if you are going to tell me is to follow the drum, even the drum don't follow this way. Try this rhythm : http://puu.sh/txC5k/597cd3555d.jpg. For example, is this 00:02:671 - really worth being a new slider that player have to tap? I do understand the low background sound, feel like a new slider here will match, but player are going to play this at 100% speed, they don't have time to hear such low low low barealy noticeable sound.

00:06:084 (1) - You know playing this notes is so weird, since this sound follow the sound before it : 00:05:545 - to 00:05:904 - . But you didn't map anything there.

00:13:270 (3,4,5,6) - Seriously, you can do something more original here. Try to listen to these 2 00:13:449 (4,6) - , it doesn't have the same drum.

00:19:377 (2,3,4,5) - You are doing too much double stacking note, which make the map a bit boring to play and also unfitting the song. For example, how about try to ctrl+g this 00:20:275 (4,5) - on the rhythm, 00:20:635 - this drum is way more important then this 00:20:455 - no?

00:28:898 (4,5,6) - How about making the stream like this http://puu.sh/txDo5/97ba4bd81c.jpg, would be much more clearer to player that this is a 3 notes stream, instead of a double stack stream.

00:34:287 (2,3,4,5) - You make the rhythm so consistent, yet the pattern look all so random : http://puu.sh/txDsS/5bb2cceaf1.jpg

00:39:452 (1) - Even if spinner is not a tapable note, don't try to randomly start it on a point where there is no sound http://puu.sh/txDwg/13ba8b2b9c.jpg

01:11:473 - Add a note here, important drum, don't break the rhythm in the kiai, since you mapped all 1/1 beat.

Antalf

Beatmap Nominator

258 posts

Joined August 2016

Topic Starter

Antalf 2017-01-24T21:37:09+00:00

Julie wrote:
Alright, just giving out some few tips to start with. owo

Tips
[Normal]

I'm just going to point out every point one time, instead of repeating myself, so you could actually try to figure out some similar point, since you are up for learning~ And I'm sure you don't want to read me repeating myself either xD.

00:05:904 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - You'll want to try to avoid this, since look at how cramp it is http://puu.sh/txAkw/d97d34a638.jpg.
The distance spacing here 00:06:443 (4,5) - isn't that big, and here 00:06:802 (5,6,7) - player have to click really fast, so it can be quite confusing, and hard to read for normal players. Fixed

00:09:677 (5,1,2) - Look at here, after finishing playing note(5), the end of slider (2) is right behind, which might cause Normal player, or average player playing with FL : http://puu.sh/txAp2/4a985a5ccb.jpg. Mostly when the head of the slider is like totally the opposite way, and super far from note(5), and note(1) is EVEN MORE FAR. Even if there is a huge 1/1 rhythm gap between them, player might chock by seeing the notes so far, while slider 2 is near, the might get confuse and try to hit note(1) too early.
While for example if you do something like this : http://puu.sh/txABQ/8e0929456b.jpg, player cursor will go on 1 slowly and then slowly flow into slider (2).
Fixed but didnt like the end result so i changed it up a bit should be more comfortable

Now another thing you will see from a lots of modder in standard, is blanket mod.
I usually don't do blanket mods, unless is really dramatic looking slider haha.
So here 00:17:940 (4,5) - look at the difference between your pattern http://puu.sh/txAJZ/f376a6b508.jpg, and if you actually took the time to blanket, that's how it will look : http://puu.sh/txAMn/30909d20bb.jpg. Nicer don't you think? Fixed

00:25:305 (2,3,4,1) - Don't you think this is a lots of tapping notes for a calm part? Mostly for a normal no? The problem is, you are too focus on vocal + drum, yes we should follow those, but this is normal, keep the rhythm simple xD. You could do something like this http://puu.sh/txB0p/8a5e59e1ae.jpg instead, don't need to match every new word in the vocal. Fixed entirely, l re mapped and left some parts, more comfprtable now

00:59:617 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Aren't you rushing your pattern a bit? Look at that : http://puu.sh/txBcM/0789fae6d1.jpg. (5) touching (1), (6) being closer then (4) instead of (5). What if player don't have number and follow point in their skin? i dont really think a normal player will have such skin in a such early gameplay stage but fixed the patterns, accommodated the blanket.

01:06:443 (3,4,5) - Same rhythm but different spacing : http://puu.sh/txBjg/e96285c740.jpg. Usually normal and easy should always have consistent spacing, that mean the same spacing through the whole diff, some exception might apply with some few small SV or BPM change though, but here is not the case. 01:06:443 (3,4) - have 1.20x spacing and 01:07:162 (4,5) - have 1.02x. Sometimes is not noticeable in-game, but most of the time it is, just like in the screenshot. I can notice that either you went lazy, or you purposely changed spacing. Totally right, forgot to turn down distance spacing, spacing is now consistent through out the map

^ After spotting this, I realize that your spacing is really not consistent through your whole map, try to move your pattern so that every spacing is consistent. ^

01:16:862 (1,2,3,4) - Hmm, look at how it look in-game : http://puu.sh/txByR/d5e62e3c7e.jpg. Tons of bad overlap here, while finishing this slider 01:16:862 (1) - , you see slider (4) touching a bit the slider (1). 01:17:581 (2) - and 01:18:299 (4) - , these 2 are nearly touching each other. The editor is big, use as much space as you want, don't need to be all cramp up. Overlap fixed and switched up patterns

01:28:000 (1,2,3,4) - Really not suggested in both rhythm and pattern, rhythm is because there is basically movement on every 1/2 tick, even those small reverse slider are really short and quick, so this can be really too quick to play for normal player. Also in pattern, player have to consistently turn their cursor 90 degree and 180 degree (reverse slider) everything. Those reverse slider feel like it break the flow. Pretty sure you can make something more easy to play for a normal difficulty. actually, that gave me a good idea, ty

Ty Julie c:

[Hard]

00:02:491 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This might look good, but it doesn'T feel right while playing if player try to follow the song, if you listen the main sound, you can feel there is some change, is not repeating 3 times, yet you do 3 same pattern. Also if you are going to tell me is to follow the drum, even the drum don't follow this way. Try this rhythm : http://puu.sh/txC5k/597cd3555d.jpg. For example, is this 00:02:671 - really worth being a new slider that player have to tap? I do understand the low background sound, feel like a new slider here will match, but player are going to play this at 100% speed, they don't have time to hear such low low low barealy noticeable sound.

00:06:084 (1) - You know playing this notes is so weird, since this sound follow the sound before it : 00:05:545 - to 00:05:904 - . But you didn't map anything there.

00:13:270 (3,4,5,6) - Seriously, you can do something more original here. Try to listen to these 2 00:13:449 (4,6) - , it doesn't have the same drum.

00:19:377 (2,3,4,5) - You are doing too much double stacking note, which make the map a bit boring to play and also unfitting the song. For example, how about try to ctrl+g this 00:20:275 (4,5) - on the rhythm, 00:20:635 - this drum is way more important then this 00:20:455 - no?

00:28:898 (4,5,6) - How about making the stream like this http://puu.sh/txDo5/97ba4bd81c.jpg, would be much more clearer to player that this is a 3 notes stream, instead of a double stack stream.

00:34:287 (2,3,4,5) - You make the rhythm so consistent, yet the pattern look all so random : http://puu.sh/txDsS/5bb2cceaf1.jpg

00:39:452 (1) - Even if spinner is not a tapable note, don't try to randomly start it on a point where there is no sound http://puu.sh/txDwg/13ba8b2b9c.jpg

01:11:473 - Add a note here, important drum, don't break the rhythm in the kiai, since you mapped all 1/1 beat.

Protastic101

Elite Nominator

1,160 posts

Joined July 2015

Protastic101 2017-01-27T22:37:20+00:00

Column 3 is not your waifu and stacks suck

2017-01-05 16:41 Protastic101: First off, what's the shit you call the speed at which the slider ball rolls around the slider? Slider velocity? Yeah, that's really fucking fast for a normal compared to the ranked Normals I play
2017-01-05 16:41 Antalf: ty now im going to fuck up the sliders
2017-01-05 16:41 Protastic101: lmao
2017-01-05 16:41 Antalf: tell me suitable speed for you
2017-01-05 16:42 Protastic101: Idk, what's the value now?
2017-01-05 16:42 Antalf: 1.4
2017-01-05 16:43 Protastic101: Ok, try using 1x or 1.1x
2017-01-05 16:43 Protastic101: Actually, use 1x
2017-01-05 16:43 Protastic101: It's friendly and nice and stuff
2017-01-05 16:43 Protastic101: Except you'll need to change the length of your slider now cause of it I think
2017-01-05 16:43 Antalf: so..
2017-01-05 16:43 Antalf: 1....
2017-01-05 16:44 Antalf: see what i meant when i said time to f up sliders?
2017-01-05 16:44 Protastic101: oohhhh
2017-01-05 16:44 Protastic101: huehuehue
2017-01-05 16:45 Protastic101: Well anyways, let's just mod with 1.4x for now and you can fuck them up later
2017-01-05 16:45 Antalf: MOTHER OF GOD
2017-01-05 16:45 Antalf: okay..
2017-01-05 16:45 Protastic101: But I'd save 1.4 for Hard and stuff, and use normal speeds for Normal
2017-01-05 16:45 Protastic101: This is supposed to be your lowest diff right?
2017-01-05 16:45 Protastic101: Or are you making an izi?
2017-01-05 16:46 Antalf: ez nm hd mx in mania terms (easy normal hard and insane)
2017-01-05 16:46 Protastic101: Ah, so 4 diff spread in Standard?
2017-01-05 16:46 Antalf: yes
2017-01-05 16:47 Protastic101: nice
2017-01-05 16:47 Protastic101: 00:06:540 (4) - Since this is the normal, I'd recommend against putting a note right under a slider end since it's a bit difficult to read for noobish players
2017-01-05 16:47 Antalf: but
2017-01-05 16:48 Antalf: its in the end..........
2017-01-05 16:48 Protastic101: yes butttttttttttttttttttttttt
2017-01-05 16:49 Protastic101: Lower diffs, think about visibility. Sure, stacked notes are cool and all, and by no means should you not use them, but right under the slider end comes more as a surprise since the player will probably be looking to hit the next note in a more linear fashion
2017-01-05 16:49 Antalf: give me a sec, keep up tho
2017-01-05 16:50 Protastic101: keep up wut
2017-01-05 16:50 Antalf: suggestions?/mod
2017-01-05 16:51 Antalf: oke bak
2017-01-05 16:51 Protastic101: 00:03:309 (4) - btw, this probably isn't a problem on 1x SV, but with 1.4x I'd consider making this slider more "open" and less like the scrunched up shape it's in now, if that makes sense
2017-01-05 16:53 Protastic101: OK, SERIOUSLY, HOW THE FUCK DOES ANYONE MAKE SUGGESTIONS IN STANDARD WITHOUT FUCKING EVERYTHING UP?
2017-01-05 16:54 Protastic101: Ok, I give up on trying to make this slider look the way I want it. Basically, it's really scrunched and might be harder for newer players to read
2017-01-05 16:55 Antalf: protato
2017-01-05 16:55 Antalf: leme re map the normal...
2017-01-05 16:55 Antalf: itll feel better this time..
2017-01-05 16:55 Antalf: idfk why but i map better pissed off..
2017-01-05 16:55 Protastic101: owo
2017-01-05 16:55 Protastic101: Nooo, don't be mad D:
2017-01-05 16:56 Antalf: im not pissed because of this btw..
2017-01-05 16:56 Protastic101: It's a good diff, but just needs some polishing on the rhythms and maybe reconsideration of your distance snap

2017-01-05 16:56 Protastic101: :<
2017-01-05 16:56 Antalf: fyi, ranking criteria allows different distance spacing if not abused so..
2017-01-05 16:57 Protastic101: Oh, I know that, and I just found the problem
2017-01-05 16:57 Protastic101: 00:12:465 (5) - it's because this shit should have come in on a strong beat at 00:12:644 -
2017-01-05 16:57 Protastic101: D:<
2017-01-05 16:58 Protastic101: oki, and Ima rip
2017-01-05 17:38 Protastic101: Oh damn, it's really nice now
2017-01-05 17:39 Antalf: e
2017-01-05 17:39 Antalf: ?
2017-01-05 17:39 Protastic101: 00:03:309 (4) - Actually, this slider doesn't really start on a strong sound. You might consider combining this with 00:03:129 (3) - instead so that the slider starts where 3 is
2017-01-05 17:39 Protastic101: then it encompasses the entire length from kick to kick
2017-01-05 17:41 Antalf: from 00:13:363 (1) - to 00:16:056 (6) - i had no idea wtf i was doing
2017-01-05 17:42 Protastic101: Neither do I

2017-01-05 17:42 Protastic101: 00:10:849 (2) - ok, this shit fucking triggers me
2017-01-05 17:42 Protastic101: Dafuq were you thinking ending the slider on a strong snare?
2017-01-05 17:42 Antalf: its std
2017-01-05 17:42 Antalf: you dont care about slider ends
2017-01-05 17:42 Protastic101: Cause when you do that, then 00:11:388 (3) - is snapped to some weak ass guitar strum or whatever
2017-01-05 17:43 Protastic101: 00:10:849 (2,3) - I'd actually consider just moving this back by 1/2 beat
2017-01-05 17:43 Antalf: VOCALS
2017-01-05 17:43 Antalf: VOCALS PROTATOOOOOOOOOO
2017-01-05 17:44 Antalf: 00:11:388 (3) - Thats a "wa"
2017-01-05 17:44 Protastic101: wtf
2017-01-05 17:44 Protastic101: why the fuck does standard map weak as vocals?
2017-01-05 17:44 Protastic101: ahhhhhhhhhhhh
2017-01-05 17:44 Antalf: do you mind spectating me on a song real quick..
2017-01-05 17:45 Protastic101: yes
2017-01-05 17:45 Protastic101: ACTION spectating intensifies
2017-01-05 17:46 Antalf: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/784773 HoneyWorks - Akatsuki Zukuyo]
2017-01-05 17:47 Protastic101: Idk man, that's pretty drum to me

2017-01-05 17:48 Antalf: pretty what..
2017-01-05 17:48 Antalf: send me a std song you find hard..
2017-01-05 17:48 Protastic101: idk
2017-01-05 17:48 Protastic101: I don't know any standard songs D:
2017-01-05 17:48 Protastic101: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/683528 An - Aleie]
2017-01-05 17:49 Antalf: problem is mixing vocals with drums in std is the usual and normal
2017-01-05 17:50 Antalf: when you tell me to follow the drums but i need to follow weak and relevant vocals its hard
2017-01-05 17:51 Protastic101: but seeing as it's a normal diff, wouldn't it be a better idea to prioritize the drums which are more easily heard in the music?
2017-01-05 17:52 Antalf: thats the point
2017-01-05 17:53 Antalf: i have no fucking idea how to without mixing them both unconsiously
2017-01-05 17:53 Protastic101: So then why put more emphasis on the vocal when the drum should be more important?
2017-01-05 17:54 Antalf: have you heard those fucking drums

?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!
2017-01-05 17:55 Protastic101: Hm
2017-01-05 17:55 Protastic101: The 1/2 LNs for those two kicks, like at 00:13:363 (1) - work well
2017-01-05 17:56 Protastic101: 00:13:901 (2) - but LNs which start on weak sounds and go over strong sounds like the snare at 00:14:081 - should be made into circles, or shortened to start there maybe?
2017-01-05 17:58 Protastic101: 00:20:364 (3) - also, I might consider moving this to 00:20:185 - instead, on the downbeat cause it's kind of difficult to tell that it's 3/2 apart from each other with just the music
2017-01-05 17:58 Antalf: im making such mistakes that at this point i shouldnt
2017-01-05 17:59 Protastic101: nooo
2017-01-05 17:59 Protastic101: Why not as a more experienced standard mapper for some help?
2017-01-05 18:00 Antalf: the things youre pointing out are basic... basic a f and i recognize i fcked up
2017-01-05 18:02 Protastic101: Can't succeed til you fail a couple times first

2017-01-05 18:07 Protastic101: Ok, well, you can always ask Julie for help with Standard since she's pretty good at modding it
2017-01-05 18:07 Protastic101: Ima go now and start on my homework lol
2017-01-05 18:07 Protastic101: bai~
2017-01-06 16:49 Protastic101: 00:16:235 (1) - look man, I'm not at all good at standard, but I'ma just say that this spinner comes from nowhere lol
2017-01-06 16:49 Antalf: i get my self, thats just to mark that i need to map all that shiz
2017-01-06 16:50 Protastic101: ACTION smh
2017-01-06 16:50 Protastic101: 00:19:467 (2,4) - btw, are you going for symmetry here? Cause this shit ain't symmetrical and I want to strangle you for it
2017-01-06 16:50 Antalf: taht shit
2017-01-06 16:51 Antalf: is going to get removed
2017-01-06 16:51 Antalf: that was amistake that shouldnt had happened
2017-01-06 16:51 Protastic101: IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE REMOVED? WHAT DO I MOD D:
2017-01-06 16:52 Antalf: nop just that
2017-01-06 16:54 Protastic101: ACTION concentration intensifies
2017-01-06 16:54 Antalf: 01:04:889 (9) - this will trigger you so bad.. yet its so accepted

2017-01-06 16:54 Protastic101: 00:53:578 - skip the strong beat amirite

2017-01-06 16:54 Protastic101: 01:04:889 (9) - doesn't trigger me unless you were aiming to make it symmetrical with the sliders around it
2017-01-06 16:55 Protastic101: 00:13:273 (2) - wat
2017-01-06 16:55 Antalf: 00:53:578 - slider end in strong beat
2017-01-06 16:55 Protastic101: I don't hear a triple at all here
2017-01-06 16:56 Protastic101: But that's like a strong crash and stuff
2017-01-06 16:56 Protastic101: don't tell you standard people wouldn't map that shit
2017-01-06 16:56 Antalf: can i go with.. player wont notice... there isnt..
2017-01-06 16:56 Antalf: ACTION runs
2017-01-06 16:56 Protastic101: god damn
2017-01-06 16:56 Protastic101: all you standard people and you're weird ass sliders I swear D:<
2017-01-06 16:56 Protastic101: 00:13:273 (2) - seriously fam, why
2017-01-06 16:56 Antalf: huejahuejahuejahueja
2017-01-06 16:56 Protastic101: what did snoop do to you
2017-01-06 16:57 Antalf: nothing in fact
2017-01-06 16:57 Antalf: and that there
2017-01-06 16:57 Protastic101: 00:13:542 (4,5) - oh yeah, fucked up symmetry again
2017-01-06 16:57 Antalf: i seriously have no justification for that triplet..
2017-01-06 16:57 Antalf: yet it fits..
2017-01-06 16:57 Antalf: fuck..
2017-01-06 16:59 Antalf: 01:16:603 -
2017-01-06 16:59 Antalf: tell me you hate this and i cry
2017-01-06 16:59 Protastic101: 01:16:558 (3) - no, this is perf
2017-01-06 16:59 Protastic101: but your slider end on the downbeat is cancer
2017-01-06 16:59 Antalf: the f
2017-01-06 16:59 Antalf: which
2017-01-06 16:59 Antalf: it should end on the downbeat..
2017-01-06 17:00 Protastic101: all of them
2017-01-06 17:00 Protastic101: ACTION runs
2017-01-06 17:00 Antalf: ima kill a rainbow
2017-01-06 17:00 Protastic101: 00:15:337 (8) - this shit fam. I know it's for the vocal, but the snare 00:15:517 - is so ignored, it gives me flashbacks to middle school lunch when I was hardcore ignored
2017-01-06 17:01 Antalf: OMFG
2017-01-06 17:01 Antalf: i dont think its okay for me to laugh at that..
2017-01-06 17:01 Antalf: BUT F IT
2017-01-06 17:01 Protastic101: Nah, it's ok, I laugh at myself a lot too

2017-01-06 17:02 Antalf: youre a cute potato and you know it
2017-01-06 17:02 Protastic101: aw thanks fam <3
2017-01-06 17:02 Protastic101: make some mania diffs for this shit so I can properly nuke it
2017-01-06 17:04 Antalf: oh
2017-01-06 17:04 Antalf: OH
2017-01-06 17:04 Antalf: OMFG
2017-01-06 17:04 Antalf: OH
2017-01-06 17:04 Protastic101: Woah, hold on fam
2017-01-06 17:04 Protastic101: 01:27:689 (4,5,6) - this spacing
2017-01-06 17:04 Protastic101: this fucking spacing
2017-01-06 17:05 Antalf: oke you can nuke me
2017-01-06 17:05 Antalf: im not even sure if ima keep that triple
2017-01-06 17:05 Protastic101: give me a sec
2017-01-06 17:05 Protastic101: I owe snoop a test play lol
2017-01-06 17:08 Protastic101: oki
2017-01-06 17:08 Antalf: tht was fast
2017-01-06 17:09 Protastic101: it was only a testplay
2017-01-06 17:09 Protastic101: I'm nuking it tomorrow or something huehuehue
2017-01-06 17:09 Protastic101: 00:44:781 (4) - I don't understand standard at all
2017-01-06 17:09 Antalf: update
2017-01-06 17:10 Protastic101: why u gotta hef triple there
2017-01-06 17:10 Antalf: because
2017-01-06 17:10 Protastic101: it says it's updated on my side
2017-01-06 17:10 Antalf: if i dont
2017-01-06 17:10 Antalf: i added mania :^)
2017-01-06 17:11 Protastic101: OHHHH
2017-01-06 17:11 Antalf: probably every modder will shit on me due do the issue of "variety"
2017-01-06 17:11 Antalf: 00:28:443 (1,2) - probably the most symetrical thing ive done
2017-01-06 17:12 Antalf: i need halp here tho
2017-01-06 17:12 Antalf: 00:43:345 (6) -
2017-01-06 17:12 Antalf: where the f do i move this to
2017-01-06 17:12 Antalf: it looks ugly a f there
2017-01-06 17:13 Protastic101: the first one is 10/10
2017-01-06 17:14 Protastic101: 00:43:345 (6) - for this slider, maybe make 00:42:627 (3,4,5) - more linear instead of triangular, so then you can just have 00:43:345 (6) - lead in towards a circular kind of movement
2017-01-06 17:15 Antalf: the
2017-01-06 17:15 Antalf: fuck
2017-01-06 17:15 Antalf: did
2017-01-06 17:15 Antalf: you
2017-01-06 17:15 Antalf: just
2017-01-06 17:15 Antalf: said..
2017-01-06 17:16 Protastic101: I don't know actually
2017-01-06 17:16 Antalf: i mean
2017-01-06 17:16 Protastic101: ACTION puts on radiation suit
2017-01-06 17:16 Antalf: i got it
2017-01-06 17:16 Antalf: but
2017-01-06 17:16 Antalf: 00:43:345 (6) - got lost here.
2017-01-06 17:16 Antalf: which circular movement?
2017-01-06 17:17 Protastic101: Basically, what I was suggesting is making 00:42:627 (3,4,5) - linear, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6992716 (please ignore my distance snap, I have no idea how to turn it on)
2017-01-06 17:17 Protastic101: 00:43:345 (6) - then making this just an addition to the previous 3 notes, so it kind of tilts upwards I guess
2017-01-06 17:17 Antalf: dem skin tho
2017-01-06 17:17 Protastic101: so if you were playing, it'd be like drawing a circle
2017-01-06 17:18 Protastic101: dafuq wrong with my skin
2017-01-06 17:18 Antalf: you see thats a better explanation
2017-01-06 17:18 Antalf: nothing D:
2017-01-06 17:18 Protastic101: D:<
2017-01-06 17:18 Protastic101: Ill have you know
2017-01-06 17:18 Protastic101: Im more yellow than a banana
2017-01-06 17:18 Protastic101: ACTION shot
2017-01-06 17:18 Antalf: youre half noodle half taco..
2017-01-06 17:18 Antalf: yet you look more taco than noodle
2017-01-06 17:19 Protastic101: everyone says this and I can't see how Im more taco D:
2017-01-06 17:19 Antalf: just moved one note less than 1 mm away from another, SR down -0.01
2017-01-06 17:20 Antalf: youre skin tone
2017-01-06 17:20 Protastic101: nice SR lol
2017-01-06 17:20 Antalf: your face is very typical from mexico tbh
2017-01-06 17:20 Protastic101: o :<
2017-01-06 17:20 Antalf: if i had to chose i tribe id go either maya or inca
2017-01-06 17:20 Antalf: lets see
2017-01-06 17:20 Antalf: your eyes, total noodle wont lie
2017-01-06 17:20 Protastic101: lmao, not wrong about that
2017-01-06 17:21 Antalf: cant forget a pretty face :^)
2017-01-06 17:21 Antalf: lets seeeee.. your cheeks
2017-01-06 17:21 Protastic101: 00:13:901 (2) - in Normal. Srs fam, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SNARE HERE D:
2017-01-06 17:36 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1175044 TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size) [NM]]
2017-01-06 17:36 Antalf: oh
2017-01-06 17:36 Antalf: shit
2017-01-06 17:36 Antalf: pls dun kill me
2017-01-06 17:39 Protastic101: 00:01:065 - add a note here for the kick. It's a lead in similar to what 00:00:616 (616|0,706|1,795|2) - does
2017-01-06 17:40 Protastic101: 00:01:154 (1154|3,1334|0,1513|3,1693|0) - also, a consistency issue here with 00:07:079 (7079|0,7258|0,7438|0) - since one way you map as a 1/2 trill, the other you stack all the notes
2017-01-06 17:41 Antalf: im not quite sure
2017-01-06 17:41 Antalf: or decided
2017-01-06 17:41 Antalf: should i trill or stack
2017-01-06 17:41 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6992873 I might try something like this
2017-01-06 17:42 Protastic101: Cause the 4 note stack feels a bit too much, but 2 notes might be cooler
2017-01-06 17:42 Protastic101: also
2017-01-06 17:42 Protastic101: Your BPM should be 167.00
2017-01-06 17:42 Protastic101: ACTION runs before you kill me for making you resnap everything
2017-01-06 17:43 Antalf: y tho?
2017-01-06 17:43 Antalf: wasnt it 167.1?
2017-01-06 17:44 Protastic101: No, it's 167.00. Listen to 01:16:558 - for example. The crash comes in late
2017-01-06 17:44 Protastic101: set the BPM to 167, and the crash comes in very close to the first downbeat
2017-01-06 17:45 Antalf: should i do the same with std?
2017-01-06 17:45 Protastic101: yeah, your BPM needs to be the same for all difficulties no matter what
2017-01-06 17:45 Antalf: the funny thing is you took the bpm for me

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
2017-01-06 17:48 Protastic101: Yeah, but I told you afterwards that it should just be 167 cause the offset was the problem

DDD
2017-01-06 17:49 Antalf: well
2017-01-06 17:49 Antalf: i re snapped all std
2017-01-06 17:50 Protastic101: \o/ sorry about that lol
2017-01-06 17:50 Antalf: AH FUCK..
2017-01-06 17:50 Antalf: nuke me in 10 mins
2017-01-06 17:50 Antalf: gotta go through the entire map again
2017-01-06 17:51 Protastic101: Ima actually go and cook dinner
2017-01-06 17:51 Antalf: oh
2017-01-06 17:51 Antalf: nvm
2017-01-06 17:51 Antalf: dont burn yourself

2017-01-06 17:51 Protastic101: so I'll rip for a few hours cause after Ill take a nap or something lol
2017-01-06 17:51 Protastic101: ACTION burning intensifies
2017-01-06 17:51 Antalf: if you burn something you wont be able to nap :^)
2017-01-06 17:52 Protastic101: Btw, you know that when you change the BPM, Osu can automatically snap everything to the new BPM for you right?
2017-01-06 17:52 Protastic101: http://puu.sh/tdDvZ.png where that check is
2017-01-06 17:52 Antalf: yes but sometimes i doesnt in STD
2017-01-06 17:52 Protastic101: if you change the BPM, it'll resnap stuff for you so you can't hand to cry
2017-01-06 17:52 Protastic101: It's only .1bpm off, I think the game can do it without fucking up too bad

2017-01-06 17:52 Antalf: thts why i check everything manually afterwards
2017-01-06 17:53 Antalf: oh trust me it can..
2017-01-06 17:53 Protastic101: tru tru
2017-01-06 17:53 Protastic101: ok, gonna rip on osu, but I'll still be on discord if you have questions
2017-01-16 14:01 Protastic101: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1174332 TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size)]
2017-01-16 14:03 Antalf: the guy tht mapped that sucks
2017-01-16 14:03 Antalf: ACTION cries
2017-01-16 14:06 Protastic101: noooo D:
2017-01-16 14:07 Protastic101: so what's up with the offset?
2017-01-16 14:08 Antalf: i have no idea
2017-01-16 14:09 Antalf: in the STD snoop says he needs to use a different offset input to play
2017-01-16 14:09 Antalf: -25
2017-01-16 14:09 Protastic101: hm
2017-01-16 14:09 Protastic101: dunno what he's doing cause it sounds right to me
2017-01-16 14:13 Antalf: okay so in the nm.. how to not undermap..
2017-01-16 14:13 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7076638 dunno what snoop's doing, but I HR the normal and my unstable rate was pretty even
2017-01-16 14:14 Antalf: then idfk whats wrong with it

2017-01-16 14:14 Antalf: ill change it if someone brings it up as well
2017-01-16 14:15 Protastic101: Oh yeah, the offset is a little early actually
2017-01-16 14:16 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7076663 this is why standard gives me cancer
2017-01-16 14:17 Antalf: say that, but that thing is beautiful
2017-01-16 14:17 Protastic101: try offset 1901
2017-01-16 14:18 Protastic101: also, could you make your normal not so difficult to follow Q_Q
2017-01-16 14:18 Protastic101: 00:10:524 (1,2) - like this
2017-01-16 14:19 Protastic101: the kick makes me think this'll be 1/2 apart, but it turns out it's 1/1 apart and now I've missed D:
2017-01-16 14:19 Antalf: so.. 1901 sounds weird
2017-01-16 14:19 Protastic101: u sound weird
2017-01-16 14:19 Protastic101: jk
2017-01-16 14:19 Protastic101: that's just a rough estimation
2017-01-16 14:20 Antalf: that, i cant argue with.. and i tried around 1890
2017-01-16 14:20 Antalf: sounds quite decent i must say
2017-01-16 14:21 Antalf: 00:10:855 (2,3) -
2017-01-16 14:21 Antalf: you had toruble with this?
2017-01-16 14:22 Protastic101: yeah
2017-01-16 14:22 Protastic101: wait
2017-01-16 14:22 Protastic101: Not really
2017-01-16 14:23 Antalf: but..
2017-01-16 14:23 Protastic101: D:
2017-01-16 14:23 Antalf: 00:13:370 (1,2) - this thing here
2017-01-16 14:23 Antalf: is awful as hell right?
2017-01-16 14:26 Protastic101: yeah, that too is an ass
2017-01-16 14:26 Antalf: good
2017-01-16 14:26 Antalf: now i have a reason to remove it
2017-01-16 14:27 Protastic101: lol why
2017-01-16 14:27 Protastic101: Anyways, offset is a bit early is all
2017-01-16 14:27 Antalf: cuz i hate that thing
2017-01-16 14:27 Protastic101: maybe move it forward 10 - 15 ms from what you already have
2017-01-16 14:27 Antalf: but isnt a big deal/problem right?
2017-01-16 14:27 Protastic101: not really
2017-01-16 14:27 Protastic101: it'll be far more noticeable in mania than standard
2017-01-16 14:27 Protastic101: since the timing window is much stricter
2017-01-16 14:28 Protastic101: Anyways, I'ma get off and go to the store to get lunch
2017-01-16 17:12 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7078034 I now understand the rage of slider breaks
2017-01-16 17:12 Protastic101: Fam, lemme help you out
2017-01-16 17:13 Protastic101: 00:01:872 (1,2,3,4) - all this stuff is 10/10
2017-01-16 17:13 Protastic101: makes sense with the music and is easy to follow
2017-01-16 17:14 Protastic101: 00:06:902 (5,6) - this one on the other hand, is like, "oh, straight 1/2 rhythm and he mapped the first two 1/2 with a 1/2 slider, he'll probably do the same for the next slider-" and then you follow it with a 1/1 slider
2017-01-16 17:15 Antalf: now my question is, do you find that easy for a normal?
2017-01-16 17:15 Antalf: because i swear ima kill someone...
2017-01-16 17:15 Protastic101: yeah
2017-01-16 17:15 Antalf: OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
2017-01-16 17:15 Protastic101: ACTION runs
2017-01-16 17:15 Antalf: ...
2017-01-16 17:16 Protastic101: For the sliders I just mentioned, try this instead http://puu.sh/toMFe.jpg
2017-01-16 17:16 Antalf: im never taking suggestions before finishing the map again..
2017-01-16 17:16 Antalf: yes i know thats what i originally had
2017-01-16 17:16 Antalf: but someone made me take it off since " ITS TOO HAAAAAAAARD~"
2017-01-16 17:17 Protastic101: oh fuck them :^)
2017-01-16 17:17 Protastic101: You're making an easy for this right?
2017-01-16 17:17 Protastic101: Cause your normal is like that one timid kid in school who's actually really good at what he does but doesn't show it cause he's fucking scared of being judged
2017-01-16 17:18 Antalf: julie is
2017-01-16 17:18 Protastic101: ok
2017-01-16 17:18 Protastic101: So then don't be afraid to make the Normal a little harder
2017-01-16 17:18 Antalf: dont make me make an extra.... because if i do ima deposit all my rage into that and wont be good..
2017-01-16 17:18 Protastic101: oh dear
2017-01-16 17:19 Antalf: what else can be improved
2017-01-16 17:19 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7078072 but yeah, those sliders I mentioned above, that's what I'd do for them
2017-01-16 17:20 Protastic101: 00:08:878 (3) - Idk, I might remove this note cause there's no real emphasis there imo. It'd be better to extend 00:08:340 (2) - to 00:09:058 - and use 00:09:238 (4) - as the lead out or whatever you wanna call it
2017-01-16 17:21 Protastic101: 00:10:855 (2,3) - as for this, I'd consider pushing it back by 1/2 beat, and stacking 00:10:495 (1) - on the slidder
2017-01-16 17:21 Protastic101: slider*
2017-01-16 17:22 Antalf: AAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
2017-01-16 17:22 Antalf: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1182531 xi - Glorious Crown]
2017-01-16 17:22 Antalf: AND I THOUGHT I SHTI MAPPED
2017-01-16 17:22 Antalf: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
2017-01-16 17:22 Antalf: IM DEAD
2017-01-16 17:22 Protastic101: dafuq is that
2017-01-16 17:22 Antalf: MONSTRATA 7K MAP
2017-01-16 17:23 Protastic101: What in the actual fuck is up with the hand balance here
2017-01-16 17:23 Protastic101: oh my god
2017-01-16 17:23 Protastic101: he's making the same mistake every standard mapper makes when first mapping mania
2017-01-16 17:23 Antalf: HASHDBAJFSJKDFKASDGNASADSGASDGADGAD
2017-01-16 17:23 Protastic101: he's only trying to follow one part in the music
2017-01-16 17:24 Antalf: omgerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd
2017-01-16 17:24 Antalf: im laughing so bad rn
2017-01-16 17:27 Protastic101: dear god
2017-01-16 17:28 Antalf: and my maps are bad HA
2017-01-16 17:30 Protastic101: 00:55:755 (55755|5,55822|5) - lord help us all
2017-01-16 17:31 Protastic101: 00:57:086 (57086|6,57086|4,57219|6,57285|5,57352|6,57485|5,57551|6,57618|5,57618|4,57751|6,57817|5,57884|6) - LORD SAVE US ALL
2017-01-16 17:32 Antalf: that broken trill tho
2017-01-16 17:32 Antalf: damn
2017-01-16 17:32 Protastic101: I'm going to
2017-01-16 17:32 Protastic101: just
2017-01-16 17:32 Antalf: 5/7
2017-01-16 17:32 Protastic101: give him a week to look over the mania diff
2017-01-16 17:33 Protastic101: and then I'm going to mod it
2017-01-16 17:33 Protastic101: because dear god
2017-01-16 17:33 Protastic101: I can see the standard influence all over it
2017-01-16 17:33 Antalf: you gonna mod that XD? or you talking bout signal
2017-01-16 17:33 Protastic101: glorious crown
2017-01-16 17:33 Protastic101: back to signal tho
2017-01-16 17:33 Antalf: 01:48:438 (108438|5,108438|3,108438|4,108438|6,108505|2,108505|3,108505|1,108505|0,108571|4,108571|6,108571|5,108571|3,108638|3,108638|2,108638|0,108638|1,108704|4,108704|6,108704|3,108704|5,108771|2,108771|3,108771|1,108771|0,108837|5,108837|3,108837|4,108837|6,108904|1,108904|3,108904|0,108904|2) -
2017-01-16 17:33 Antalf: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2017-01-16 17:34 Protastic101: ACTION begins praying
2017-01-16 17:34 Protastic101: 00:10:855 (2,3) - ok you shit, did you get my suggestion about this?
2017-01-16 17:35 Antalf: yes master, i did
2017-01-16 17:36 Protastic101: k, so wuts ur response or did i miss it
2017-01-16 17:37 Antalf: shouldnt that kick slider (dont know id you know STD terms but this one 00:14:447 (3) - ) should stay like that?
2017-01-16 17:38 Protastic101: wat
2017-01-16 17:38 Antalf: oke so drop some suggestions, brb i need to fix some serious shit, be back quick
2017-01-16 17:38 Protastic101: rip
2017-01-16 17:38 Protastic101: finish the difficulty, and then I'll mod it all in one go
2017-01-16 17:38 Protastic101: I'ma get off and do some homework now
2017-01-16 17:39 Antalf: finish?
2017-01-16 17:39 Antalf: i never heard that word
2017-01-16 17:39 Protastic101: same fam :^)
2017-01-27 14:09 Protastic101: you shit
2017-01-27 14:09 Protastic101: stop playing tv sizes
2017-01-27 14:09 Protastic101: they suck
2017-01-27 14:10 Antalf: LET ME PLAY MY LOVE LIVE SPEED CORE TV SIZE D:
2017-01-27 14:10 Protastic101: D:<
2017-01-27 14:12 Antalf: I reall think
2017-01-27 14:12 Antalf: youre in bed still
2017-01-27 14:13 Protastic101: Hey, I only went back to bed at 1
2017-01-27 14:13 Antalf: y
2017-01-27 14:13 Antalf: u
2017-01-27 14:13 Antalf: at bed
2017-01-27 14:13 Antalf: youre sick>
2017-01-27 14:13 Antalf: ?
2017-01-27 14:13 Protastic101: No, school got out early today cause they're hosting the state debate tournament
2017-01-27 14:14 Protastic101: I went to the store and went to bed when I got home
2017-01-27 14:14 Protastic101: D:
2017-01-27 14:14 Antalf: we hosted a small chinese year event at school

2017-01-27 14:14 Antalf: was fun a f
2017-01-27 14:14 Antalf: new*
2017-01-27 14:14 Protastic101: Nice, sounds like a lot of fun
2017-01-27 14:15 Protastic101: Now quit playing your tv size shit and let's mod
2017-01-27 14:15 Antalf: i was actually playing a marathon before you got on :c
2017-01-27 14:16 Protastic101: D:<
2017-01-27 14:17 Antalf: Kaito says: "Go do the queue mods"
2017-01-27 14:17 Antalf: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1175843 TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size) [NM]]
2017-01-27 14:18 Protastic101: Can we nuke the standard Normal first tho? I still need to yell at you for making shit confusing to read
2017-01-27 14:18 Antalf: KNNFKndslk
2017-01-27 14:18 Antalf: oke
2017-01-27 14:18 Protastic101: Great, glad we could agree

2017-01-27 14:18 Antalf: what is confusing tho D:
2017-01-27 14:20 Protastic101: 00:04:647 (1,2) - Not really confusing, but this feels too concentrated in the upper part of the map. I'd consider making these diagonal to 00:03:928 (5) - , like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166315
2017-01-27 14:20 Protastic101: Basically, don't focus it at the very top
2017-01-27 14:20 Protastic101: I think most players at this level would expect it to make a kind a circle thing and go towards the middle of the playing field
2017-01-27 14:21 Antalf: tru
2017-01-27 14:21 Antalf: a
2017-01-27 14:21 Antalf: f
2017-01-27 14:21 00:09:317 (3) - Hey, you should move this to 00:09:138 - for the kick :^DDDD *gets shot*
2017-01-27 14:22 Protastic101: Really though, I think it'd be a nice way to end the slider by using a circle right after it
2017-01-27 14:22 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166335 like this
2017-01-27 14:22 Protastic101: Actually wait
2017-01-27 14:23 Protastic101: 00:08:240 (2) - Ok no, so extending this to end at 00:09:138 - Would be better
2017-01-27 14:24 Antalf: first thing i read on that screen shot, "CHARGE"
2017-01-27 14:25 Protastic101: Yeah, I died a little on the inside
2017-01-27 14:25 Protastic101: But anyways, so what do you think about the slider being extended?
2017-01-27 14:25 Antalf: feels good but to a certian extent
2017-01-27 14:25 Protastic101: What you mean?
2017-01-27 14:26 Antalf: because if i have to repeat that through the map thatll just break the mapping of vocals
2017-01-27 14:26 Protastic101: Well I mean to just do it whenever it's fitting
2017-01-27 14:27 Protastic101: if you have other stuff during the kiai, by all means map that. Consistency doesn't seem as big a deal in standard than mania anyways
2017-01-27 14:27 Antalf: so what else
2017-01-27 14:27 Protastic101: 00:14:527 (3) - Why not extend this to end on the kick at 00:14:886 -
2017-01-27 14:27 Antalf: pls
2017-01-27 14:27 Antalf: dont
2017-01-27 14:27 Antalf: get
2017-01-27 14:27 Antalf: triggered
2017-01-27 14:28 Antalf: 00:26:563 (4) -
2017-01-27 14:28 Protastic101: NIGGA
2017-01-27 14:28 Protastic101: WHAT YOU DOING
2017-01-27 14:28 Protastic101: 00:15:246 (5) - AHHH, YOU IGNORED THE SNARE HERE TOO
2017-01-27 14:28 Protastic101: I GIVE UP
2017-01-27 14:28 Protastic101: LET'S MOVE TO MANIA
2017-01-27 14:29 Antalf: 00:14:527 (3) - this is one here is on purpose for the vocals
2017-01-27 14:29 Antalf: and okay

2017-01-27 14:29 Protastic101: first off
2017-01-27 14:29 Antalf: 00:17:761 - aaaaaaaaaaaaaand youre ded
2017-01-27 14:29 Protastic101: ACTION nosebleeds from the bg
2017-01-27 14:29 Protastic101: You know, I don't understand why I'm surprised you managed to make a Normal difficulty Hard for a song like this
2017-01-27 14:30 Antalf: the f
2017-01-27 14:30 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1184597 TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size) [HD]]
2017-01-27 14:30 Protastic101: 00:00:695 (695|3) - Make this a 1/2 LN so that it helps the player read the distance between 00:00:695 (695|3,874|2) -
2017-01-27 14:31 Antalf: the question is
2017-01-27 14:31 Antalf: is it horribly mapped or what
2017-01-27 14:31 Antalf: because im not sure what i did here
2017-01-27 14:31 Protastic101: give me a sec
2017-01-27 14:31 Antalf: e
2017-01-27 14:31 Antalf: you fked up the first time stamp

2017-01-27 14:32 Protastic101: No I didn't
2017-01-27 14:32 Antalf: make a ln here 00:00:695 (695|3) -
2017-01-27 14:33 Antalf: so it read distance to here 00:00:695 (695|3) - ...
2017-01-27 14:33 Antalf: o
2017-01-27 14:33 Antalf: n
2017-01-27 14:33 Antalf: v
2017-01-27 14:33 Antalf: m
2017-01-27 14:33 Protastic101: bakantalf
2017-01-27 14:33 Protastic101: you poor misled child
2017-01-27 14:34 Antalf: sorry i feel like half dead, half alive rn so its kinda weird..
2017-01-27 14:36 Protastic101: rip
2017-01-27 14:36 Antalf: im like
2017-01-27 14:37 Antalf: thinking of staying with just an ez and a nm but if the ez is under undermapped and the nm undermapped
2017-01-27 14:37 Antalf: welp..
2017-01-27 14:37 Protastic101: Everything is undermapped fam

2017-01-27 14:37 Protastic101: Ok anyways
2017-01-27 14:37 Protastic101: I was messing around with my skins but this is gonna take too long lol
2017-01-27 14:37 Protastic101: 00:00:695 (695|3) - So LN here yay or nay?
2017-01-27 14:37 Antalf: yus
2017-01-27 14:38 Protastic101: cool
2017-01-27 14:38 Protastic101: 00:01:144 (1144|2,1323|0,1503|3,1683|1) - Fun fact, you actually overmapped something
2017-01-27 14:38 Protastic101: Delete those notes cause they're ghosts
2017-01-27 14:38 Protastic101: Instead, you should make 00:01:054 (1054|1,1234|3,1413|1,1593|2) - triples for the snare
2017-01-27 14:40 Antalf: wow a pink bar wtf
2017-01-27 14:40 Antalf: i think i did some cancer
2017-01-27 14:40 Protastic101: So maybe like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166475
2017-01-27 14:40 Protastic101: What pink bar?
2017-01-27 14:40 Protastic101: Ohhh
2017-01-27 14:41 Antalf: that pattern isnt bad at all..
2017-01-27 14:41 Antalf: mind if i steal it?
2017-01-27 14:41 Protastic101: go for it
2017-01-27 14:42 Antalf: woo
2017-01-27 14:42 Antalf: and when do we add the 1/16 js
2017-01-27 14:42 Protastic101: 00:02:132 (2132|2,2491|2,2850|2,3210|2,3569|2,3928|2) - I see you've found a new waifu
2017-01-27 14:42 Antalf: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
2017-01-27 14:43 Protastic101: DON'T YOU BACK SASS ME
2017-01-27 14:43 Antalf: ITS UNCUNCIOUS D:
2017-01-27 14:43 Protastic101: STOP PICKING FAVORITES
2017-01-27 14:43 Protastic101: THE COLUMNS ARE YOUR HAREM, BUT BE EQUAL TO EVERYONE
2017-01-27 14:43 Antalf: tell me you have the chat log turned in//
2017-01-27 14:44 Antalf: and okay ima fix that D:
2017-01-27 14:44 Protastic101: I do
2017-01-27 14:45 Protastic101: 00:02:311 (2311|3) - This is a ghost note btw, there's no sound here
2017-01-27 14:45 Protastic101: I might recommend using LNs for the violin there actually
2017-01-27 14:45 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166524
2017-01-27 14:46 Antalf: waaaaait a minute, theres violin sounds here?00:02:311 -
2017-01-27 14:46 Protastic101: Probably not violin, but that long sound
2017-01-27 14:47 Antalf: because the violing pitch starts to rise at 00:05:545 -
2017-01-27 14:47 Protastic101: how do I describe it?
2017-01-27 14:48 Protastic101: Like, there's a sustained sound
2017-01-27 14:48 Protastic101: but it's not a violin
2017-01-27 14:48 Protastic101: but it's not a woodwin
2017-01-27 14:48 Protastic101: woodwind*
2017-01-27 14:48 Protastic101: LIKE, THERE'S A LONG SOUND THERE BUT IDK WHAT TO CALL IT D:
2017-01-27 14:48 Antalf: dont worry i hear it too i know what you mean
2017-01-27 14:49 Antalf: but is it okay to map it like that tho?
2017-01-27 14:49 Protastic101: Of course
2017-01-27 14:50 Protastic101: Knowing that if you extended it to 00:02:491 - , you'd have to use a jump, it's ok to break your consistency and end it 1/4 before in order to use shields
2017-01-27 14:51 Antalf: so i sneeze and this shit happens https://puu.sh/tCVbu/37e935638c.png
2017-01-27 14:51 Protastic101: 00:02:671 (2671|3,2850|2) - Although if you use my arrangement, it'd probably be better to control J
2017-01-27 14:51 Protastic101: Those look like Juan LNs
2017-01-27 14:52 Antalf: i mean he is a life size noodle after all
2017-01-27 14:52 Antalf: o god pls dont let juan kill me
2017-01-27 14:53 Protastic101: brb, SSing and sending to Juan
2017-01-27 14:53 Antalf: i think this trill is fine 00:02:671 (2671|1,2850|2,3030|1,3210|2,3389|1) - ?
2017-01-27 14:53 Protastic101: Yeah, that's fine, my problem is with 00:02:491 (2491|3,2671|3) -
2017-01-27 14:53 Protastic101: Assuming you used the two LN kind of pattern I suggested
2017-01-27 14:54 Antalf: i moved this 00:02:671 - if youre wondering
2017-01-27 14:54 Protastic101: o
2017-01-27 14:54 Protastic101: then it's 10/10
2017-01-27 14:54 Antalf: perf
2017-01-27 14:54 Antalf: now, what else is removable cancer
2017-01-27 14:55 Protastic101: a lot of stuff
2017-01-27 14:55 Protastic101: and I don't know where to begin
2017-01-27 14:55 Antalf: ACTION deletes HD diff.
2017-01-27 14:55 Antalf: i think thats better

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2017-01-27 14:55 Protastic101: tbh, I'm considering making a HD diff myself just to show you what you could do lol
2017-01-27 14:55 Protastic101: cause I'm just WSDIL;EUGHH
2017-01-27 14:56 Antalf: this thing
2017-01-27 14:56 Antalf: is so confusing
2017-01-27 14:56 Antalf: first of all
2017-01-27 14:56 Protastic101: 00:03:749 (3749|0) - I think this is a ghost note btw
2017-01-27 14:56 Antalf: why do i chose so confusing songs
2017-01-27 14:56 Protastic101: ^
2017-01-27 14:56 Protastic101: yeah, like why the hell
2017-01-27 14:56 Antalf: you know what
2017-01-27 14:56 Protastic101: YOU CHOSE TO MAP A REALLY INTENSE SONG THAT SOMEHOW MANAGES TO HAVE BARELY ANY MOVING PARTS
2017-01-27 14:56 Antalf: ima rank this no matter what
2017-01-27 14:57 Protastic101: But god damn if the guy in the BG is super cute
2017-01-27 14:57 Antalf: why
2017-01-27 14:57 Antalf: hadnt you watched it
2017-01-27 14:57 Protastic101: 00:04:826 (4826|0,5186|0) - These are also ghosts btw
2017-01-27 14:57 Antalf: i mean
2017-01-27 14:57 Antalf: there is some hidden "yaoi" in it
2017-01-27 14:57 Antalf: ACTION gets shot cuz of spoiler.
2017-01-27 14:57 Protastic101: because I haven't had time to do anything this week
2017-01-27 14:58 Antalf: tbh you seem like you dont have time to breath actually
2017-01-27 14:58 Protastic101: fk, how did you know
2017-01-27 14:59 Antalf: and regarding the stupid amounts of ghost notes i added, i felt so SO SO undermapped with just the doubles and triple it was sad and i added singles
2017-01-27 14:59 Protastic101: I don't wanna tell you to remove all the ghosts, but they're done kind of randomly I feel
2017-01-27 15:00 Antalf: and thats why i said the stupid amount of em
2017-01-27 15:00 Antalf: i just added non stop
2017-01-27 15:01 Antalf: i know all of them so i can remove later so you can pass to something else
2017-01-27 15:02 Protastic101: ACTION doing smth rn
2017-01-27 15:03 Antalf: okie no rush
2017-01-27 15:03 Protastic101: Ok, this is turning out well
2017-01-27 15:03 Protastic101: So remove those ghost notes, it'll still work out pretty well
2017-01-27 15:04 Antalf: oke
2017-01-27 15:08 Protastic101: http://puu.sh/tCWqJ.osu
2017-01-27 15:08 Protastic101: take a look at the rhythm in that
2017-01-27 15:08 Protastic101: You'll notice that there's a constant 1/1 rhythm with the hihats/shakers/whatever
2017-01-27 15:09 Protastic101: To add, the bassline often goes into 1/2 at the end of a phrase
2017-01-27 15:09 Protastic101: 00:09:856 - So like here in the HD diff is an example of when the bass plays 1/2 to lead into the next measure
2017-01-27 15:10 Protastic101: 00:08:240 (8240|3,8599|3) - also, what up with the random stacks?
2017-01-27 15:12 Antalf: when the hell did i placed a note there
2017-01-27 15:12 Protastic101: 00:12:192 - Another example of the shakers. They consistently come in on every white tick, so you can add 1/1 with reckless abandon and still be fine
2017-01-27 15:12 Protastic101: 00:12:371 (12371|0) - This is a ghost tho.
2017-01-27 15:12 Antalf: what about here tho
2017-01-27 15:12 Antalf: 00:13:629 -
2017-01-27 15:12 Protastic101: Might be for the vocal, but no one likes vocals in mania

2017-01-27 15:13 Antalf: theres is no here but i do here a bass
2017-01-27 15:13 Protastic101: Bass there
2017-01-27 15:13 Protastic101: so add a note
2017-01-27 15:13 Protastic101: Pretty much whatever you do, adding notes every 1/1 you cannot go wrong lol
2017-01-27 15:13 Antalf: so
2017-01-27 15:13 Protastic101: There's guaranteed to be a sound on every white tick
2017-01-27 15:13 Antalf: if i here random instruments on 1/1 i add?
2017-01-27 15:13 Protastic101: 00:13:270 (13270|1,13270|0,13449|1,13449|2) - I also need to ask wtf
2017-01-27 15:13 Antalf: HEAR****
2017-01-27 15:13 Protastic101: yea
2017-01-27 15:14 Antalf: that is for the kick?
2017-01-27 15:14 Antalf: but now that you mention it
2017-01-27 15:14 Antalf: i do repeat that way more than i should
2017-01-27 15:14 Protastic101: even if you don't hear stuff on 1/1, add it anyways. Basically, you set the structure of the map early in this section, which is that there's a note every 1/1. That means you shouldn't have a gap that's larger than that between two notes
2017-01-27 15:14 Protastic101: Oh no, with 00:13:270 (13270|0,13270|1,13449|2,13449|1) - I was saying wtf because wtf [12][23]?
2017-01-27 15:15 Antalf: is 12 23 weird D:?
2017-01-27 15:16 Protastic101: I mean, I don't really like it cause it isn't symmetrical and it isn't balanced on both hands
2017-01-27 15:16 Antalf: oke, ima remove almost, every and leave like 2 or 3
2017-01-27 15:16 Antalf: because for real
2017-01-27 15:16 Antalf: i do repeat them a lot
2017-01-27 15:17 Protastic101: I would have either stacked them ([12][12]) since they're the same sound, or made them complementary ([12][34]) since the sound is different and would make better use of different hand movement
2017-01-27 15:17 Protastic101: 00:15:066 - 1/1
2017-01-27 15:17 Antalf: basically just to balance each hand right
2017-01-27 15:18 Antalf: should i do some bs jaun ln's here 00:16:503 (16503|0,16683|1,16862|3,16862|2,17761|2,17761|3,17940|0,18120|1,18299|2,18479|3,19018|0,19018|1) - ?
2017-01-27 15:18 Protastic101: 00:16:503 (16503|0,16683|1) - Since this LN is uncapped which is more difficult to time than if it were capped with a note, I'd arrange it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166814
2017-01-27 15:18 Antalf: i was thinking of it actually
2017-01-27 15:18 Protastic101: I was about to mention those LNs lol
2017-01-27 15:19 Protastic101: You could do some interesting stuff with it
2017-01-27 15:19 Antalf: im still like
2017-01-27 15:19 Antalf: thinking
2017-01-27 15:20 Antalf: hmm ill consider it, ill do what you say till now until i find something weird and good to add
2017-01-27 15:20 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166834 try this
2017-01-27 15:21 Antalf: wat

2017-01-27 15:21 Protastic101: for the guitar at 00:17:940 -
2017-01-27 15:21 Antalf: thats more confusing than anatomy
2017-01-27 15:22 Protastic101: Anyways, just look at it without the LNs. The pattern isn't very hard, and it jumps hands frequently, making a varied movement that looks intimidating but is actually a really simple transitional measure
2017-01-27 15:23 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166856 this is what it looks like no LNs
2017-01-27 15:23 Protastic101: Not a very hard pattern, see?
2017-01-27 15:23 Antalf: yea i know it isnt
2017-01-27 15:23 Protastic101: 00:24:767 (24767|1,24767|0,24946|1,24946|2) - jesus fucking christ antalf
2017-01-27 15:24 Antalf: but thats just my personal fear to ln's
2017-01-27 15:25 Antalf: oke i will
2017-01-27 15:25 Antalf: im just thinking in swtiching up the positions
2017-01-27 15:25 Antalf: wait no
2017-01-27 15:26 Antalf: ill need to do a shield if i do that on purpose
2017-01-27 15:26 Antalf: f no
2017-01-27 15:27 Antalf: specifically here 00:29:617 (29617|0,29796|3,29796|1,29796|2,29976|0,30515|1,30515|2) - i think i can do something preeetty dumb..
2017-01-27 15:27 Protastic101: 00:28:000 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166880 Can also try this for the violins and stuff
2017-01-27 15:28 Protastic101: 00:30:156 - Oh, btw, you need another LN here for the violin
2017-01-27 15:28 Antalf: that time line zoom
2017-01-27 15:28 Antalf: kills me
2017-01-27 15:28 Protastic101: I couldn't fit it all with a larger zoom D:
2017-01-27 15:28 Antalf: o :^)
2017-01-27 15:29 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166894
2017-01-27 15:29 Antalf: https://puu.sh/tCXWV/2f87d3bbdf.jpg
2017-01-27 15:29 Antalf: now
2017-01-27 15:29 Protastic101: http://puu.sh/tCXXY.jpg damn whiny bastard
2017-01-27 15:29 Antalf: thats beautiful
2017-01-27 15:29 Protastic101: that's majestic af
2017-01-27 15:30 Antalf: oke i got the hang of it
2017-01-27 15:30 Antalf: so lets jump to the kiais
2017-01-27 15:33 Protastic101: 00:38:778 (38778|0,38868|1,38958|3,39048|2,39138|0) - Anyways, you can just use a jumptrill for this
2017-01-27 15:33 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166941 like this
2017-01-27 15:34 Antalf: wait
2017-01-27 15:34 Antalf: why that single in the blue tick
2017-01-27 15:34 Protastic101: so that you can use a triple on the downbeat without making a jack
2017-01-27 15:35 Protastic101: Eh, the rest of the kiai is just stacks like normal 00:58:539 (58539|1,58898|1,59258|1,59617|1) -
2017-01-27 15:35 Protastic101: Don't use random stacks unless the music gives you a reason, or use them, but use them consistently throughout the kiais
2017-01-27 15:36 Antalf: but i mean the thing is i dont hear a very strong sanre and hat sounds to add that tripple but thats just me
2017-01-27 15:36 Antalf: snare*
2017-01-27 15:36 Antalf: oke ima avoid stacks
2017-01-27 15:36 Antalf: in fact ima re do all the 4 kiais
2017-01-27 15:37 Protastic101: I used the triple just cause it's the end of the calm section and the beginning of the transition measure, so it kind of sets the pretense that the measure will be intense, only to surprise the player with calm single notes, THEN the kiai
2017-01-27 15:37 Protastic101: 00:52:790 (52790|0,52970|1,53150|3,53329|2) - god dammit, YOU CAN USE TRIPLES
2017-01-27 15:37 Protastic101: THEY'RE SNARE
2017-01-27 15:38 Protastic101: TRIPLES ARE 10/10
2017-01-27 15:38 Antalf: but D:
2017-01-27 15:38 Antalf: SEE WHY I ONLY MAP NORMALS?????//
2017-01-27 15:38 Protastic101: DAMMIT
2017-01-27 15:38 Protastic101: 01:03:210 (63210|1,63389|2,63569|0,63749|3,63928|1,64108|0) - this tho
2017-01-27 15:38 Protastic101: Like, LNs are cool, but jesus christ your chord size consistency gives me a bigger headache than Dad's 4K maps
2017-01-27 15:38 Antalf: hm?
2017-01-27 15:39 Antalf: chords???
2017-01-27 15:39 Antalf: oke now im confused
2017-01-27 15:39 Protastic101: 01:04:287 (64287|3,64467|2,64647|1,64826|0) - like, you used triples for snares throughout the whole measure, but then you added LNs, seemingly randomly, and was like, "OK, TIME TO PACK UP THE BAGS, THERE ARE LNS, I CAN'T USE JUMPS OR HANDS NOW"
2017-01-27 15:39 Protastic101: 01:03:389 - add another note here to make a jump because there's a kick
2017-01-27 15:39 Protastic101: 01:03:749 - add two more notes here for the snare
2017-01-27 15:40 Protastic101: 01:03:928 - add one more note for the kick
2017-01-27 15:40 Protastic101: 01:04:108 - add two more notes for the snare
2017-01-27 15:40 Antalf: but the bass.. i just couldnt ignore it
2017-01-27 15:40 Protastic101: do you see what I mean?
2017-01-27 15:40 Antalf: ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2017-01-27 15:40 Antalf: i seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2017-01-27 15:40 Antalf: .....
2017-01-27 15:40 Protastic101: You can keep the LNs, but ffs, LNs =/= no other notes allowed
2017-01-27 15:41 Protastic101: 01:15:784 (75784|2,75784|3,76144|1,76144|0) - antalf please
2017-01-27 15:42 Protastic101: You give me a pain in the head like no other

2017-01-27 15:42 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7166996 try that for the above since the lead in is kick -> snare -> kick -> snare
2017-01-27 15:42 Antalf: because im fucking special and unique
2017-01-27 15:43 Antalf: ACTION gets shot.
2017-01-27 15:43 Protastic101: you mean your tv size is special :^)
2017-01-27 15:43 Antalf: yes :c
2017-01-27 15:44 Protastic101: D:
2017-01-27 15:44 Protastic101: 01:26:922 (86922|0,87012|1,87102|3,87192|2,87281|0,87371|1,87461|3,87551|2,87641|0,87731|1,87820|3,87910|2) - again, just use a jumptrill, it's only 168 bpm
2017-01-27 15:44 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7167007 like this would be cool to end off the song
2017-01-27 15:45 Antalf: probably the jump trill i hate the most but if you say so, thing or two i learned about mapping, isnt always what i want but what the player expects
2017-01-27 15:45 Protastic101: Other than that, everything else is just fix your god damn stacks and don't be afraid to add notes when there are LNs. Also, you can add 1/1 beats to keep a steady rhythm and not get shot
2017-01-27 15:46 Protastic101: You don't have to use the [14][23] jumptrill. You can use [12][34] if that
2017-01-27 15:46 Protastic101: that's what you think works better
2017-01-27 15:46 Protastic101: see, it's 2.91* lmao
2017-01-27 15:46 Antalf: 01:28:000 (88000|0,88180|3,88359|2,88539|1,88719|3,88898|0,89078|2,89258|1) - tell me this undermapped and i shoot you
2017-01-27 15:47 Protastic101: I was gonna give you a suggestion to make the LNs more tricky, but I realized there's no sound to support it D:
2017-01-27 15:47 Protastic101: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1175843 TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size)]
2017-01-27 15:47 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1175843 TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size) [NM]]
2017-01-27 15:47 Protastic101: there we go
2017-01-27 15:47 Protastic101: First off, set your OD/HP 7.5/7.5
2017-01-27 15:47 Protastic101: This is easy difficulty and you have it at 8/8 just to fuck with the players
2017-01-27 15:58 Protastic101: ANYWAYS
2017-01-27 15:58 Antalf: Well back to signal before i get a nc seizure..
2017-01-27 15:58 Protastic101: 00:03:389 (3389|0) - would consider moving this to 3 for hand balance
2017-01-27 15:59 Protastic101: God dammit antalf, it's always either column 2 or 3
2017-01-27 15:59 Protastic101: 00:06:623 (6623|1,6713|2,6802|3) - when using triples in normal, make sure to change the direction of the notes as they can easily take a player by surprise at this level
2017-01-27 15:59 Protastic101: Basically, control H the triple
2017-01-27 15:59 Antalf: WAAAAAAAAIT A FKING SECONF
2017-01-27 15:59 Protastic101: and shift it one column to the right
2017-01-27 15:59 Protastic101: or not
2017-01-27 15:59 Antalf: SECOND*
2017-01-27 15:59 Protastic101: it's up to you
2017-01-27 15:59 Protastic101: NO
2017-01-27 16:00 Antalf: WHEN DID I USE A TRPLE
2017-01-27 16:00 Antalf: OH YOU MEAN BURSTS OKE
2017-01-27 16:00 Protastic101: I MEANT TRIPLET
2017-01-27 16:00 Antalf: i got scared
2017-01-27 16:00 Protastic101: 00:06:982 (6982|2) - ALSO, MOVE THIS TO 4 AND 00:07:162 (7162|0) - TO 3 TO AVOID A MINI TRILL WITH 00:07:162 (7162|0,7341|1,7521|0) -
2017-01-27 16:01 Protastic101: 00:10:755 - I'ma basically say the same thing I mentioned in HD, and that's to add 1/1 notes pretty much all the time
2017-01-27 16:01 Antalf: so basically a mini jack
2017-01-27 16:01 Protastic101: wat
2017-01-27 16:02 Antalf: i ended up with something like this
2017-01-27 16:02 Antalf: https://puu.sh/tD0DY/162ffc56d1.png
2017-01-27 16:02 Antalf: which doesnt play bad at all
2017-01-27 16:02 Protastic101: Oh, that looks nice
2017-01-27 16:03 Protastic101: I still want to nuke it, but it looks nice
2017-01-27 16:03 Protastic101: 00:19:018 (19018|0) - would consider moving this to 3 and adding another 1/1 LN in 00:18:659 - for the open hat or whatever
2017-01-27 16:03 Antalf: am i the king of undermapping now?
2017-01-27 16:03 Protastic101: man I'm tired, I should have taken a nap one hour ago D:
2017-01-27 16:03 Protastic101: yes
2017-01-27 16:04 Antalf: FINALLY
2017-01-27 16:04 Protastic101: 00:29:796 (29796|1,29976|3) - make these two 1/2 LNs for the violin, and add another 1/1 LN at 00:30:156 - for the long sound
2017-01-27 16:04 Antalf: whats a hat indeed, not a whatever

2017-01-27 16:06 Antalf: yes im missing a double here i know 00:39:138 -
2017-01-27 16:06 Antalf: fucked up here as well 01:03:213 -
2017-01-27 16:07 Protastic101: Tbh, why don't you make all the kicks doubles too?
2017-01-27 16:07 Protastic101: So kicks and snares = doubles
2017-01-27 16:07 Antalf: not a bad idea..
2017-01-27 16:07 Protastic101: anyways, helps to differentiate between what notes are for percussion and what notes are just hats or filler
2017-01-27 16:07 Protastic101: It's what I did in my oasis and it plays well enoug
2017-01-27 16:07 Protastic101: enough*
2017-01-27 16:07 Antalf: it wouldnt be too hard tho right?
2017-01-27 16:08 Protastic101: No, it wouldn't
2017-01-27 16:08 Protastic101: the tempo is pretty slow, and the entire song takes everything more or less at a 2/1 beat, so it's just slow in general
2017-01-27 16:08 Protastic101: 00:40:575 (40575|1) - also, make this a 1/1 LN for the hat thing I mentioned a while ago too
2017-01-27 16:08 Antalf: fun fact.. streaming heart isnt undermapped at all..
2017-01-27 16:08 Protastic101: I'm actually scared to see what you've done for streaming heart
2017-01-27 16:09 Antalf: i send the diff if you wanna peek :^)
2017-01-27 16:09 Protastic101: 00:43:270 - tfw you ignore the kick but map the quiet af hihat at 00:42:910 (42910|3) -
2017-01-27 16:09 Protastic101: Later
2017-01-27 16:09 Protastic101: I gotta finish my own diff for that and hitsound it lol
2017-01-27 16:09 Antalf: hit what
2017-01-27 16:10 Antalf: oh hell no im not using those sloppy a f hs
2017-01-27 16:10 Antalf: i told kaito that
2017-01-27 16:10 Protastic101: I CHANGED THEM
2017-01-27 16:10 Protastic101: D:<
2017-01-27 16:10 Protastic101: Reason I gave him such basic hs was cause he was gonna do the hitsounding himself
2017-01-27 16:10 Protastic101: and I can't trust him to not screw up with more than 6 hitsounds
2017-01-27 16:10 Antalf: no he gave me another hs that werent yours
2017-01-27 16:10 Antalf: and i said f to the no
2017-01-27 16:11 Protastic101: oh yeah, no, fuck whatever he finds

2017-01-27 16:11 Protastic101: Well no, don't fuck it but like
2017-01-27 16:11 Protastic101: idk
2017-01-27 16:11 Antalf: LMAO
2017-01-27 16:11 Antalf: oke i actually laughed at that xD
2017-01-27 16:11 Protastic101: 00:47:581 - Might consider adding a note here for the bass guitar since it helps lead into the next measure
2017-01-27 16:12 Antalf: i dont want to call them retarded because theyre actually a good band but damn
2017-01-27 16:12 Protastic101: wat
2017-01-27 16:12 Antalf: they need to chill with the weird a f rhythms
2017-01-27 16:12 Protastic101: lol
2017-01-27 16:12 Protastic101: ^^^
2017-01-27 16:13 Protastic101: 00:52:790 (52790|0,52970|1,53150|3,53329|2) - You know you could make these complementary doubles right?
2017-01-27 16:13 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7167266 like, I mean this works
2017-01-27 16:13 Protastic101: it's not hard to read at all and is balanced on both hands
2017-01-27 16:13 Antalf: pls hit qat
2017-01-27 16:14 Protastic101: 00:58:898 (58898|0,59258|0) - them weird ass stacks at it again :^)
2017-01-27 16:14 Protastic101: don't hit cats, they're actually really fluffy and soft
2017-01-27 16:14 Antalf: QAT

...
2017-01-27 16:14 Protastic101: 01:01:413 (61413|2,61772|2) - antalf pls
2017-01-27 16:14 Protastic101: cats
2017-01-27 16:15 Protastic101: if I hit the QAT, they would nuke me to hell and back
2017-01-27 16:15 Antalf: quality assuarance loctave sons
2017-01-27 16:15 Antalf: LOCATVE
2017-01-27 16:15 Antalf: WTF IS WRONG WITH ME
2017-01-27 16:15 Protastic101: damn, you didn't even spell your misspelled word correctly
2017-01-27 16:15 Antalf: i swear to god ima make this good D:
2017-01-27 16:15 Antalf: see why i dont write with this kb?
2017-01-27 16:15 Protastic101: 01:04:287 (64287|0,64467|1,64647|2,64826|3) - again, complementary jumps would fit nicely. Maybe [14][23]?
2017-01-27 16:16 Antalf: 01:25:485 -
2017-01-27 16:16 Protastic101: 01:05:725 (65725|3,66084|3) - dude, wtf is going on in your head when you map these ministacks?
2017-01-27 16:16 Antalf: it was 2 am
2017-01-27 16:16 Antalf: kaito was in vc
2017-01-27 16:16 Antalf: and i wasnt even thinking
2017-01-27 16:16 Antalf: bare with me D:
2017-01-27 16:16 Protastic101: I'm surprised kaito didn't nuke you in VC while he was at it :^)
2017-01-27 16:17 Protastic101: 01:15:784 (75784|0,75784|3,76144|1,76144|2) - dafuq boi. You mapped the 1/2 snares before using 1/2 single notes, now you're using 1/1 jump LNs because you feel like it?
2017-01-27 16:17 Protastic101: I sometimes wonder what goes on in the mind of a standard mapper when they map mania
2017-01-27 16:17 Antalf: really?
2017-01-27 16:17 Protastic101: "Yes, I'll say fuck it to consistency because hue"
2017-01-27 16:18 Antalf: "OH, I ADDED 2 SLIDERS IN MY STD CHART BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY FITS, LETS DO IT HERE TO!"
2017-01-27 16:18 Protastic101: "Oh no! A long note! It's scary for players, I have to leave at least 2 measures of rest before and after them"
2017-01-27 16:18 Antalf: its really how it happened
2017-01-27 16:18 Protastic101: tfw you're trying to map a mania map that plays like a convert
2017-01-27 16:18 Antalf: if you go to my insane its literally this 01:15:784 (1,2,3) -
2017-01-27 16:19 Protastic101: the insane scares me
2017-01-27 16:19 Antalf: insane is ez af
2017-01-27 16:19 Antalf: i shouldve made it harder
2017-01-27 16:19 Protastic101: 01:28:000 (88000|3) - why isn't this a 1/2 LN?
2017-01-27 16:20 Antalf: whats my justification there
2017-01-27 16:20 Antalf: because it aint vocals..
2017-01-27 16:20 Protastic101: 01:26:922 (86922|0,87102|1,87281|3,87461|2,87641|0,87820|1) - also, you could use complementary chords again, or since this is a 1/4 burst, you could try using triplet https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7167323
2017-01-27 16:21 Protastic101: Basically, for the normal, I'd recommend changing the single note kicks into double notes, while also keeping the snares as doubles
2017-01-27 16:21 Protastic101: Also, use doubles for the 1/2 snares that sometimes occur at the end of musical phrases
2017-01-27 16:22 Protastic101: As for stacks, they're randomly done, so either use them consistently or remove them
2017-01-27 16:22 Antalf: those stacks i swear you wont see
2017-01-27 16:22 Protastic101: ACTION notices all the stacks
2017-01-27 16:22 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1175044 TK from Ling tosite sigure - Signal (TV Size) [EZ]]
2017-01-27 16:22 Protastic101: whenever you're ready
2017-01-27 16:22 Antalf: NO
2017-01-27 16:22 Antalf: DONT
2017-01-27 16:23 Protastic101: while I wait, I'm just going to admire the sexy af bg
2017-01-27 16:23 Antalf: TAKE YOUR NAP
2017-01-27 16:23 Antalf: ima re map the ez so no use on modding it
2017-01-27 16:23 Antalf: upload the irc so i can feed rainbow kds
2017-01-27 16:23 Protastic101: ok
2017-01-27 16:24 Protastic101: but im still going to admire the MC cause he's cute af
2017-01-27 16:24 Antalf: oh that ez..
2017-01-27 16:24 Antalf: youre seriously going to fangirl over him
2017-01-27 16:24 Protastic101: I don't know which BG I like: EZ's or HD's
2017-01-27 16:24 Protastic101: like more*
2017-01-27 16:24 Protastic101: they're both perfect
2017-01-27 16:24 Antalf: id go for the HD :^)
2017-01-27 16:25 Antalf: cuz that scene
2017-01-27 16:25 Antalf: broke ma heart
2017-01-27 16:25 Protastic101: wait, that's from a scene?
2017-01-27 16:25 Protastic101: nah, I'ma say I like EZ's BG more
2017-01-27 16:25 Antalf: yeh
2017-01-27 16:25 Protastic101: That face is just ;ujoanedfg;oiaunefb[o
2017-01-27 16:26 Antalf: you like psycho crazy good looking stabby stab guys?

[ Kuki ]

75 posts

Joined January 2015

[ Kuki ] 2017-02-04T19:33:37+00:00

Julie wrote:
Alright, just giving out some few tips to start with.

Tips
[Hard]

00:02:491 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This might look good, but it doesn'T feel right while playing if player try to follow the song, if you listen the main sound, you can feel there is some change, is not repeating 3 times, yet you do 3 same pattern. Also if you are going to tell me is to follow the drum, even the drum don't follow this way. Try this rhythm : http://puu.sh/txC5k/597cd3555d.jpg. For example, is this 00:02:671 - really worth being a new slider that player have to tap? I do understand the low background sound, feel like a new slider here will match, but player are going to play this at 100% speed, they don't have time to hear such low low low barealy noticeable sound. Fixed both, thanks very much!

00:06:084 (1) - You know playing this notes is so weird, since this sound follow the sound before it : 00:05:545 - to 00:05:904 - . But you didn't map anything there. Fixed!

00:13:270 (3,4,5,6) - Seriously, you can do something more original here. Try to listen to these 2 00:13:449 (4,6) - , it doesn't have the same drum. Tried to do something ;;

00:19:377 (2,3,4,5) - You are doing too much double stacking note, which make the map a bit boring to play and also unfitting the song. For example, how about try to ctrl+g this 00:20:275 (4,5) - on the rhythm, 00:20:635 - this drum is way more important then this 00:20:455 - no? Yeah, I see what ya mean, I will be trying to make more variety with the double stacking and etc soon.

00:28:898 (4,5,6) - How about making the stream like this http://puu.sh/txDo5/97ba4bd81c.jpg, would be much more clearer to player that this is a 3 notes stream, instead of a double stack stream. Got it ;D

00:34:287 (2,3,4,5) - You make the rhythm so consistent, yet the pattern look all so random : http://puu.sh/txDsS/5bb2cceaf1.jpg Fixed! I have no idea what I was trying to do there xD Thanks!

00:39:452 (1) - Even if spinner is not a tapable note, don't try to randomly start it on a point where there is no sound http://puu.sh/txDwg/13ba8b2b9c.jpg Fixed!

01:11:473 - Add a note here, important drum, don't break the rhythm in the kiai, since you mapped all 1/1 beat.Placed a note there!

Thanks for mod! (:

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