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wa. remixed celas - Silver Wind [Taiko]

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Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Charlotte
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年4月22日 at 1:31:57

Artist: wa. remixed celas
Title: Silver Wind
Source: BMS
Tags: qoot8123 BMS Battle Regulation A
BPM: 175
Filesize: 2044kb
Play Time: 01:42
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.26 stars, 289 notes)
  2. Gin no Oni (5.5 stars, 781 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.4 stars, 157 notes)
  4. Oni (4.12 stars, 624 notes)
  5. qoot8123's Muzukashii (3.19 stars, 432 notes)
Download: wa. remixed celas - Silver Wind
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Kantan - Completed
Futsuu - Completed
qoot8123's Muzukashii - Completed
Oni - Completed
Gin no Oni - Completed
Last edited by Charlotte , edited 21 times in total.
qoot8123
1,500 posts
Joined March 2011
qoot8123
muzu diff has been finished ! :)

muzu
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: silver_wind.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 58632
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Gin no Kaze
TitleUnicode:Gin no Kaze
Artist:wa. remixed celas
ArtistUnicode:wa. remixed celas
Creator:Charlotte
Version:qoot8123's Muzukashii
Source:BMS
Tags:silver wind
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BG3.jpg",0,60
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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Vulkin
1,602 posts
Joined September 2014
Vulkin
cute song

-Kantan-
00:18:860 (25) - make this d for consistency with 00:07:889 (8) - ?
00:32:917 (48) - make it finisher?
00:34:289 (50,51) - ^
00:36:346 (53,54) - delete for break?
00:52:117 (75) - finisher?
00:53:489 (77,79,80) - ^
01:31:546 (54) - ^
01:38:403 (64,65,66) - ^
Note: i think i put too many finisher in this, sorry :o

-Futsuu-
00:03:775 (3,4,5) - They sound a bit better as dkk to contrast the pitch of the piano
00:06:517 (10,11,12) - they sound better as ddk because higher pitch than ^
00:14:575 (34) - make this k ^
00:15:089 (36) - ^
00:25:717 - I think its best to keep this as it is in case you change it, gives like warning because song changes
00:32:917 (91) - Finisher?
00:34:289 (95) - ^
00:52:117 (136,141) - ^
00:54:860 (146,148) - ^
00:56:232 - pattern a bit too simple?
01:19:203 (68) - Finisher?

-qoot8123's Muzukashii-
00:52:117 (1) & 00:53:489 (1) - make them finisher? (placed them separately, dont want osu to screw up something :D
01:16:289 (88) - make this k and move 01:16:460 (89) - to 01:16:632 -
01:38:403 (204,207) - make them finisher?

-Oni-
00:30:175 (142) - make it finisher?

-Gin no Oni-
00:58:203 (367,370) - would make them d to reflect pitch decrease?

Pretty nice mapset, Good luck!
Last edited by Vulkin , edited 1 time in total.
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
komasy
ゲームチャットより
Mod初心者ですがよろしくお願いします！
General
・mp3のビットレートは192がよさそうかもしれません
・Tag add ? "BMS Battle Regulation A"
・ここに入るかわからない提案です。01:19:203 - ここでいったんkiaiを切って、01:20:575 - からkiai再開というのはどうでしょうか。前後で譜面の傾向がだいぶ変わってますし、曲のフレーズも変わっているので、区切りをつけたいところです。
・プレビューポイントはフェードインを考慮して00:58:575が一番いいと思います。
Gin no Oni
00:20:575 (83) - change to d? 直前の流れに合わせキックを拾う目的です

00:27:860 (124) - 1/4で左に一個move? 奇数の流れ出来ているのでここも奇数の複合に＆キックが拾えます。

00:28:117 (126,127) - Ctrl + G? 音程的にとキックが拾えます。

00:48:003 (276) - change to d? 叩いていてなんとなく違和感。キックの目立つ曲なので白線にはdを置いてグルーヴ感を生みたいです。

01:04:975 (424) - change to k? 直前までピアノの高音をkで拾っているので、ここもkで拾い統一

01:39:775 (754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761) - 配色の変化が著しいのでこのような感じのフィーリングはどうでしょうか。
Oni
00:05:489 (12) - change to k? 直前までピアノの高音をkで拾っているので統一

00:13:117 (42) - change to d? 直前まで拾っている付点リズムのdを拾う目的

00:27:860 (123) - 1/4で左に一個move? 奇数の流れ出来ているのでここも奇数の複合に＆キックが拾えます。

00:28:117 (125,126) - Ctrl + G? 音程的にとキックが拾えます。　Gin no Oniで提案を受けた場合はこちらも変更することをお勧めします

00:57:175 (324,325) - Ctrl + G? 直前のkkdkdと対称になります。

00:58:889 (331) - change to k or 00:59:403 (335) - change to d? ddk d kdd かdkk d kkdにすることで見た目上で対象となり統一感が生まれ見た目も良くなります。

01:04:460 (368,369,370) - change to kdk? ここまでkxxxkxxxxxxxxxxx.で来ているので、ここもそうしないと叩いていて違和感を感じます。

01:05:489 (376) - ここも似たような理由でchange to k?

01:05:660 (377,378,379) - change to kdk? 似たような理由です。

01:19:203 (476) - ここからこういうのはどうでしょう。次の小節へつながってなっているdddddというキック音は目立つので積極的に拾っていきたいです。


01:40:117 (626) - change to k? Gin no Oniと同じ理由です

01:40:803 (630) - ^
Muzukashii
00:07:546 (16,17) - ctrl+g? Muzukashii should emphasize patterns.You can also take bass drum sounds.

00:20:060 (64) - change to k? You can make it symmetrical 00:18:860 (59,60,61) -.It can also prevent repeating ddk.

00:33:775 (121,122) - ctrl+g?

00:56:060 (13) - delete? This pattern is so long.

01:20:832 (108) - delete? It will be difficult for the right person in muzukashii.

01:26:317 (137) - ^

01:31:803 (167) - ^

01:37:289 (196) - ^

01:39:603 (208) - This pattern is so long.
Futsuu
サビが少しリズム難で難しく、パターンが崩れているように感じました。
具体的な提案が難しいですが、例えば00:58:632 - のkiaiですが、01:04:117 (18) - からがパターンが崩れていてメロディに引っ張られ過ぎているので00:58:632 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - のパターンをベースにして配置のバリエーションを広げていくといいと思います
KantanやFutuuではメロディを特別拾う必要はなく独立したリズムが好まれます
その部分以外はいいと思いました
Kantan
低難易度はあまり得意ではないためか、あまり指摘できる箇所が見当たりませんでした。
すみません；；
グッドラックです！
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Charlotte

Vulkin wrote:

cute song cute? I think cool 8-)

-Kantan-
00:18:860 (25) - make this d for consistency with 00:07:889 (8) - ?
00:32:917 (48) - make it finisher?
00:34:289 (50,51) - ^ nope.I think no need finish.
00:36:346 (53,54) - delete for break? nope.I think no need break
00:52:117 (75) - finisher?
00:53:489 (77,79,80) - ^
01:31:546 (54) - ^
01:38:403 (64,65,66) - ^ nope.I think no need finish.
Note: i think i put too many finisher in this, sorry :o

-Futsuu-
00:03:775 (3,4,5) - They sound a bit better as dkk to contrast the pitch of the piano I changed ddk
00:06:517 (10,11,12) - they sound better as ddk because higher pitch than ^
00:14:575 (34) - make this k ^ I prefer don.
00:15:089 (36) - ^ ^
00:25:717 - I think its best to keep this as it is in case you change it, gives like warning because song changes
00:32:917 (91) - Finisher?
00:34:289 (95) - ^ same as kantan
00:52:117 (136,141) - ^
00:54:860 (146,148) - ^
00:56:232 - pattern a bit too simple?
01:19:203 (68) - Finisher? I think no need finish.

-Oni-
00:30:175 (142) - make it finisher? fixed.

-Gin no Oni-
00:58:203 (367,370) - would make them d to reflect pitch decrease? changed kkkdkkk

Pretty nice mapset, Good luck!

not reply = fixed.

komasy wrote:

ゲームチャットより
Mod初心者ですがよろしくお願いします！よろしくお願いします。
General
・mp3のビットレートは192がよさそうかもしれません 192が用意出来れば192に変更するかもしれません。
・Tag add ? "BMS Battle Regulation A" とりあえず追加で。
・ここに入るかわからない提案です。01:19:203 - ここでいったんkiaiを切って、01:20:575 - からkiai再開というのはどうでしょうか。前後で譜面の傾向がだいぶ変わってますし、曲のフレーズも変わっているので、区切りをつけたいところです。 後に変更すると思います。
・プレビューポイントはフェードインを考慮して00:58:575が一番いいと思います。 変更するかもしれません。
Gin no Oni
00:20:575 (83) - change to d? 直前の流れに合わせキックを拾う目的です

00:27:860 (124) - 1/4で左に一個move? 奇数の流れ出来ているのでここも奇数の複合に＆キックが拾えます。fixed.

00:28:117 (126,127) - Ctrl + G? 音程的にとキックが拾えます。白線上のdonはこのパートでは00:29:489 - ここが一番fitすると思います。故、提案箇所でのswapはkeepで

00:48:003 (276) - change to d? 叩いていてなんとなく違和感。キックの目立つ曲なので白線にはdを置いてグルーヴ感を生みたいです。 ^

01:04:975 (424) - change to k? 直前までピアノの高音をkで拾っているので、ここもkで拾い統一^

01:39:775 (754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761) - 配色の変化が著しいのでこのような感じのフィーリングはどうでしょうか。^
Oni
00:05:489 (12) - change to k? 直前までピアノの高音をkで拾っているので統一 ピアノもlow pitchになっているように感じたのでkeep

00:13:117 (42) - change to d? 直前まで拾っている付点リズムのdを拾う目的 fixed.

00:27:860 (123) - 1/4で左に一個move? 奇数の流れ出来ているのでここも奇数の複合に＆キックが拾えます。fixed.

00:28:117 (125,126) - Ctrl + G? 音程的にとキックが拾えます。　Gin no Oniで提案を受けた場合はこちらも変更することをお勧めします same as Gin no Oni

00:57:175 (324,325) - Ctrl + G? 直前のkkdkdと対称になります。対象パターンは好んで使いますが、dkddkのほうがfitするように感じました

00:58:889 (331) - change to k or 00:59:403 (335) - change to d? ddk d kdd かdkk d kkdにすることで見た目上で対象となり統一感が生まれ見た目も良くなります。今のパターンのほうがプレイしやすいです。

01:04:460 (368,369,370) - change to kdk? ここまでkxxxkxxxxxxxxxxx.で来ているので、ここもそうしないと叩いていて違和感を感じます。fixed.

01:05:489 (376) - ここも似たような理由でchange to k? ^

01:05:660 (377,378,379) - change to kdk? 似たような理由です。kdkよりdkdのほうが音的に合うように感じました。

01:19:203 (476) - ここからこういうのはどうでしょう。次の小節へつながってなっているdddddというキック音は目立つので積極的に拾っていきたいです。Oniでは次小節に続けてdddddより休憩を好みます。


01:40:117 (626) - change to k? Gin no Oniと同じ理由です fixed.

01:40:803 (630) - ^ fixed.

Futsuu
サビが少しリズム難で難しく、パターンが崩れているように感じました。
具体的な提案が難しいですが、例えば00:58:632 - のkiaiですが、01:04:117 (18) - からがパターンが崩れていてメロディに引っ張られ過ぎているので00:58:632 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - のパターンをベースにして配置のバリエーションを広げていくといいと思います
KantanやFutuuではメロディを特別拾う必要はなく独立したリズムが好まれます
その部分以外はいいと思いました

指摘された部分をかなり簡略化しました。
Kantan
低難易度はあまり得意ではないためか、あまり指摘できる箇所が見当たりませんでした。
すみません；；
グッドラックです！
Thank you mod :)
Last edited by Charlotte , edited 1 time in total.
qoot8123
1,500 posts
Joined March 2011
qoot8123
@Vulkin : Almost applied your suggestions, thanks for mod! :)

@komasy: make every patterns shorter as you suggest. Moreover, I didn't apply your pitch relate suggestions ,but I trying to make the pattern become consistent.Thanks for mod! :)

muzu
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Ellyu
429 posts
Joined May 2014
Ellyu
One of my favorite bms song. Finally somebody map it.
And I want to do a guest diff
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
[General]
  1. Red line should be at 00:58:632 - , not 01:20:575 -
[Oni]
  1. 00:36:003 - 00:52:117 - This part is causing spread some issues. Can you make it simpler? And qoot should also make his diff a little harder to help too. Oni looks like Inner and it's not really needed.
[Futsuu]
  1. 01:20:575 to 01:33:603 - There should be a diff small spike here, like in other diffs.
[Kantan]
  1. 01:08:575 (17,18) - Move this to 01:05:832 - ? The break makes more sense that way.
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Charlotte

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[General]
  1. Red line should be at 00:58:632 - , not 01:20:575 -
fixed.

[Oni]
  1. 00:36:003 - 00:52:117 - This part is causing spread some issues. Can you make it simpler? And qoot should also make his diff a little harder to help too. Oni looks like Inner and it's not really needed. I removed some notes.
[Futsuu]
  1. 01:20:575 to 01:33:603 - There should be a diff small spike here, like in other diffs. added more 1/2 notes.


[Kantan]
  1. 01:08:575 (17,18) - Move this to 01:05:832 - ? The break makes more sense that way. fixed.
Thank you mod :)
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
Muuuuch better.

Bubbled!
tasuke912
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018
1,347 posts
Joined June 2013
tasuke912
Hi.

[ Kantan]
  1. 個人的に単色3連打をパターンに組み込みたい
  2. 00:32:232 (46) - dkdが2回続いている+メロディーは下がっているのでkkd等
[ Futsuu]
  1. spread的にやや重いのでいくつかノート削ってみてもいいかもしれません。
  2. 00:12:860 (29,30) - 休憩
  3. 00:24:003 (62,63,64,65) - 1/2の位置ミスってませんか？
  4. 00:36:346 (101) - 00:39:089 (105) - 休憩用に削除
  5. 01:01:374 (9) - 01:12:346 (41) - kで貫いてほしい
[ Muzukashii]
  • Kiai time could have more notes for better spread.
  1. 01:07:717 (46) - Add a triplet (ddd-k) to avoid long 1/2?
  2. 01:17:660 (95) - I recommend to delete this note since there is no big sound and 1/2 patterns is too long. also try to add a kat at 01:17:403 -

[ Oni]
  1. 00:46:632 (234) - 00:57:603 (308) - 偶数を含む部分と含まない部分の難易度のギャップが目立ちます。調整をしてください。
  2. 00:52:117 (266) - ~ 詰まり過ぎていて緩急的によろしくないです
    例
    1. 00:48:603 (244) - 移動→00:47:060
    2. 00:51:346 (260) - 移動→00:49:803
    3. 00:52:717 (270) - 00:54:089 (280) - 00:55:375 (290) - 削除
    4. 配色は要調整
    2連打偶数を導入することで後半の密度を下げつつ同パート内のギャップを緩和する策。
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 01:41:489 (768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780) -
    高難易度譜面とはいえ最後だけ唐突に難易度が上がりすぎている感が否めません。密度はそのままで良いので叩きやすくなるように配色を調整してみてください。e.g. d-d-kkkd-d-kkkd-x-x
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Charlotte

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi.

[ Kantan]
  1. 個人的に単色3連打をパターンに組み込みたい 組み込むならKiaiかなと思いましたが、今のままでも良いかなと思ったのでno changeで。
  2. 00:32:232 (46) - dkdが2回続いている+メロディーは下がっているのでkkd等 fixed.
[ Futsuu]
  1. spread的にやや重いのでいくつかノート削ってみてもいいかもしれません。下記の提案のみ削除。
  2. 00:12:860 (29,30) - 休憩 fixed.
  3. 00:24:003 (62,63,64,65) - 1/2の位置ミスってませんか？ずらしました。
  4. 00:36:346 (101) - 00:39:089 (105) - 休憩用に削除 ok.
  5. 01:01:374 (9) - 01:12:346 (41) - kで貫いてほしい 確かに...fixed.
[ Oni]
  1. 00:46:632 (234) - 00:57:603 (308) - 偶数を含む部分と含まない部分の難易度のギャップが目立ちます。調整をしてください。
  2. 00:52:117 (266) - ~ 詰まり過ぎていて緩急的によろしくないです
    例
    1. 00:48:603 (244) - 移動→00:47:060
    2. 00:51:346 (260) - 移動→00:49:803
    3. 00:52:717 (270) - 00:54:089 (280) - 00:55:375 (290) - 削除 ddkを2回繰り返すほうが良いと感じたので最後の削除のみno change.
    4. 配色は要調整
    2連打偶数を導入することで後半の密度を下げつつ同パート内のギャップを緩和する策。

    見直して見ると確かに詰まりすぎてました。例の提案通り変更→少しだけ配色変えました。
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 01:41:489 (768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780) -
    高難易度譜面とはいえ最後だけ唐突に難易度が上がりすぎている感が否めません。密度はそのままで良いので叩きやすくなるように配色を調整してみてください。e.g. d-d-kkkd-d-kkkd-x-x
少し易化させてdddk d kkkd d kに変更しました。
Thank you mod :)
qoot8123
1,500 posts
Joined March 2011
qoot8123
@tasuke912

01:17:660 (95) - I think delete the note on 01:17:660 (95) - may conflict the pattern on 01:15:432 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90) - which has a 1/1 break by per 7 1/2 notes, in order to make it consistency, I may make a break on 01:18:003 - ,but the sounds on 01:18:003 - is pretty obvious and should not be ignored, so I will try to add d on 01:17:746 - to enhance the intensity of 1/2 pattern after 01:17:832 - ,also to divide the instrument's sounds which is quite loud on 01:16:803 - ~01:17:489 - and 01:17:832 - ~01:18:860 -

01:07:717 (46) -the instrument's timbre is quite similar on 01:07:203 (43,45,47) - ,so that's why i use d k d k d k here, but I agree that the 1/2 pattern is too long and a bit boring, so i add d on 01:08:146 - which has similar reason as above

Additionally, I add some notes on 01:04:032 - ,01:15:003 - ,01:20:832 - and 01:31:803 - to make kiai harder

Thanks for mod! :)

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tasuke912
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tasuke912
Qualified!
komasy
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komasy
おめでとうございます！！ :) :)
Antares-
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Antares-
shouldn't the title be 銀の風 and Gin no Kaze romanized?
like here for example: youtube and other ranked set
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Hi there, I've checked the report - let's wait until IamKwan checks the metadata here!
Shurelia
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Shurelia
Let's see

Sources :
- https://www.discogs.com/Various-Creatio ... se/2950011
- http://vgmdb.net/album/29942
- and that youtube link thingy.

It should be something like

[Metadata]
Title:銀の風 -Silver Wind-
TitleUnicode:Gin no Kaze -Silver Wind-
Artist:wa. remixed celas
ArtistUnicode:wa. remixed celas
Chromoxx
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Chromoxx
i love the mapset, if this gets downed for metadata i'd have a small suggestion for the inner oni though, since the rythm used in the first half of the kiai is kind of obscure...

01:00:517 (386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393) - these 4plets used don't follow the melody as accurately as they could imo since there is a kind of triplet sound starting from 01:00:860 - , so it would be best if this tick were mapped... the way you did it at 01:11:832 (484,485,486,487,488) - fits a lot better imo so why not implement the same rythm you used at 01:11:146 (478,479,480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488) - for 01:00:174 - ?
01:15:260 - i'd also suggest using a similar rythm here too
another very minor thing i'd suggest is changing 00:58:289 - to d, since 00:57:946 (364,365,366) - and 00:58:289 (368,369,370) - sound different

just a few very minor things i thought i'd point out since it seems like this will get DQed for metadata anyway, either way the diff and set is awesome in general, these are just small things i think could be done to make it even better :D
IamKwaN
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searched a bit on the web

Unicode Title: 銀の風
Romanised Title: Silver Wind
Unicode Artist: wa. remixed celas
Source: BMS

References:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100701115 ... on/bms.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20100629232 ... n_rain.htm

also wonder if 銀の風 -Silver Wind- pointed out by Shurelia is the same version as that on BMS. if so, you are also free to use 銀の風 -Silver Wind- as Unicode title and Gin no Kaze -Silver Wind- as Romanised Title

please also check the post by chromoxx accordingly
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