1. Cruelty (3.72 stars, 879 notes)

Log Off Now wrote:

q m4m request

[from Grief to Love]

00:18:072 (5) - Not a fan of this 5% slider end, I know thats when the vocal switches but it felt a bit weird to play, I wouild at least increase the volume a bit more so it's audible, or make it a 1/2 note as you have done previously (something like this 00:31:730 (1) - feels better because its audible) ok, made it a bit louder
00:28:803 (2,5) - ugly tiny overlap (shows up in game) ok
00:34:657 (2,3,4) - I would swap these notes around on the timeline so you get better emphasis on the strong drum kicks ok
00:37:340 (5) - Would remove repeat and add circle in its place so you can get a nice 3 circle jump pattern on the drums ya
01:19:047 - Consider switching to soft hitsounds for this section before the kiai?
01:40:755 (2) - Would change this out for a jump since there is more emphasis on the snare in the music and the vocals are pretty intense at this point i wanted to stick to having 1/1 holds on all the strong vocals, here i put a repeat because it makes the cursor movement better but it would ideally be a 1/1 slider
01:54:169 (1) - This is super close to being offscreen :p moved a little
02:20:511 (5) - You miss the triple in the snare here, but you seem to follow it in most other places, any reason why? barely heard it, added though
02:51:242 (2) - NC here? (You did for the first time this pattern came up)
02:52:706 (1) - Same comment as 00:18:072 (5) -
04:09:291 (2,3,4,5,6) - Maybe gradually increase the spacing here instead of have a big jump? It would match the rising volume more in the guitar/drums (also maybe add some green lines to reflect the volume change aswell?) changed spacing a bit, will get to htsounding later
04:23:194 (6) - I would have this as a single repeat + 1/2 slider since a slow repeat of 5 is a bit hard to read ehh... changed for now, but there isnt much distinguishing it from the other strumming
04:38:803 (4) - tiny overlap ?
04:40:023 (1,2,3,4) - I think the hitsounds here a bit too quiet woops didnt mean 5% there .-.
04:42:462 (2) - Same comment as 02:51:242 (2) -

also blankets in some places can be fixed :p

thanks for modding

gl!

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

From my queue.

Decrease CS 5, make it CS 4, doesn't bond well with a map that's only hard. no. cs5 is better cuz i have more space to map and it looks nicer and it puts more focus on patterns with low ar and blahblahblah

00:02:706 - Hitcircle here. there's no sound in the guitar here.
00:06:608 - Hitcircle here.
00:10:511 - Hitcircle here.
00:14:413 - Hitcircle here.
00:16:608 - Raise the volume on the hitsounds on this timing point. yeah
01:58:072 - Lower the volume on the hitsounds on this timing point. i think the feedback here is fine, it's pretty quiet but it has no hitsounds so you should have something to go by imo
02:51:242 - Raise the volume here on the hitsounds for more feedback. ok
03:35:145 (7) - Make this circle into a slider, ex:
there isnt really a distinct sound on the red tick, it would be unnecessary rhythm density in a calm section imo.
04:43:925 - Put a timing point here and raise the volume on the hitsounds.

00:10:023 (5) - You changed the DS here, why don't use the same than 00:02:218 (4) - ?

00:44:657 (4) - Be carefull rythmics are kinda fuzzy to read here maybe use 2 kicksliders or find another issue

01:25:389 (2) - Rythm is kinda hard to read too, I think tap the slider end could be better, maybe make a jump with circles only ?

02:50:998 (1) - same ^

03:07:828 (5) - DS is kinda big here, try to reduce a bit

03:39:291 (6) - Same, you forced the DS cause of a stack, change the pos of 03:39:047 (5) - If you want to let the stack

04:00:023 (3) - When you make waves use this point placements, Its just visual, ok but its improving the shape of a slider easely ^^https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/yUGcRDm.png

04:10:267 (6) - Huge DS /!\ reduce a bit !

04:27:584 (7) - Pretty hard to read be carefull

04:35:877 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - Maybe replace some circles by sliders, this is super jumpy for an hard map

04:42:218 (1) - Same rythm problem

05:33:681 (1,2,3,4) - DS is kinda high too

Ponoyoshi wrote:

NM from my queue

from Grief to love

00:10:023 (5) - You changed the DS here, why don't use the same than 00:02:218 (4) - ? eh that guitar should have accent (bigger spacing) so i actually changed pattern a bit to this > http://puu.sh/sM16a/781b67d132.jpg

00:44:657 (4) - Be carefull rythmics are kinda fuzzy to read here maybe use 2 kicksliders or find another issue issue here is, i wanted to distinguish that high pitched sound on 00:44:657 - so it's kickslider, the rest is just drums. i simplified it already by putting a repeat triple. i dont think testplayer had issues with it either

01:25:389 (2) - Rythm is kinda hard to read too, I think tap the slider end could be better, maybe make a jump with circles only ? hmm reason here is to hold that nice guitar sound down on a slider body, i put a circle there at 01:25:877 - cuz of the drums starting up leading into the stream, but the guitar sound is still ongoing so i think keeping slider is better. also, people didnt have issue with this pattern and it happens every kiai time start, so it's consistent imo.

02:50:998 (1) - same ^

03:07:828 (5) - DS is kinda big here, try to reduce a bit changed pattern around

03:39:291 (6) - Same, you forced the DS cause of a stack, change the pos of 03:39:047 (5) - If you want to let the stack hmm this one here was on purpose, the guitar goes pretty high, the drums hit and it makes a contrast to the lower spacng of the next section. i don't think its particularly out of tune with the map either at that DS.

04:00:023 (3) - When you make waves use this point placements, Its just visual, ok but its improving the shape of a slider easely ^^https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/yUGcRDm.png yeah, it looks better thanks.

04:10:267 (6) - Huge DS /!\ reduce a bit ! i think the ds increase is supported by the progression on guitar, but nerfed to be less massive.

04:27:584 (7) - Pretty hard to read be carefull ya, moved a bit then

04:35:877 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - Maybe replace some circles by sliders, this is super jumpy for an hard map reduced density

04:42:218 (1) - Same rythm problem

05:33:681 (1,2,3,4) - DS is kinda high too i think this spacing makes sense cuz it's the loudest drums, synth and ending of song = climax as well. moved around a bt tho.

Well, that a really clean map but on some points you must be carefull, DS is really confusing sometimes and rythmics for some patterns are kinda hard
and why use A 1280x720 when 1920x1080 background is allowed, I recommend to change it for something more funny, just a black and white isn't funny ^^
backround is fine color cuz the entre video is black and white, it wouldnt make sense using something not black and white imo.. will increase reso though .
Good luck~
thanks for modding

Kocari wrote:

From Modding Queue

[from Grief to Love]

First off I want to start off saying cs5 seems a bit unnatural. It doesn't look as good as it should be. CS 4 or 4.5 is good enough for most people. this was mostly for ease of mapping, i like having more space. i also like the appeal of small circles + low ar but this might be a bit too small for my skills. i'll increase it and see where it goes from there.
00:34:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't like how this plays out. Movement is kind of erratic especially from (3) ----> (4) ----- (5) It's sharp cuts then small spacing. Fitting it all in one screen so it's easier http://puu.sh/sP5xk/0fd1decef4.jpg wanted to maintain the 120 degree rotation in all of the sliders, moved around 3 4 though.
00:42:952 (3) - Your hitsound here doesn't stand out with the sound in the music. It's too quiet imo i'll be doing a major overhaul of the actual hit SOUNDS soon. most of them are not the best they should be.
00:43:805 (1) - Most of these I've seen doesn't really give anything to me. I believe having a 1/4 or even a a double would do this part justice. To emphasize the beat with a clickable object i agree that that 1/8th thing isn't particularly good on the feedback side, however, i don't want to do a double cuz it would still be 256 bpm, i don't want to do a kickslider+circle because i don't like that rhythm very much. later on i did 1/8 slider+slider which is better because of the acc leniency on a slider head.
00:44:659 (10,11,12,13) - I believe you're trying something new a little too early on. It plays at a different consistency and stands out too much. You can try this pattern and see how that works for you http://puu.sh/sP5T6/fd1256e482.jpg there's a minor sound at a high pitch that i wanted to put the kickslider on, and i haven't seen people have trouble with this. though it definitely stands out, i think that's the goal with that high pitched sound anyway. might change this later if more people talk about it.
00:57:586 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Could've had something similiar to this without having those jumps and making it then linear. I believe keeping that momentum and playing off of it would feel better http://puu.sh/sP5Zo/39e123e0dc.jpg something similar, good suggestion.
01:00:513 (3,4,5) - Again I think you are doing a little too much. The blue tick has no distinctive sound to it but your sliderend is loud enough to fake like it does. Honestly you can replace 01:00:757 (4) - with just a single note and it'll work wonders i disagree, i think there's a clear drum roll type thing here going into 5. i'll remove the drum-whistle hitsound that makes it super loud but it's definitely not an overmap. besides, the rhythm is simpler as a kickslider than a triple anyway.
01:11:244 (1) - Sliderend is strong you can use another drum beat here rather than a soft -----> Drum Sampleset + Finish added drum whistle
01:33:927 (4,5,6,1) - You could've had this since linear flowing is strange to play http://puu.sh/sP69v/942cbeecd6.jpg
01:34:659 (1,2,3) - This doesn't play well since the flow is being mislead somewhere else. Even though it's not the greatest it still looks great http://puu.sh/sP6bS/b4deccdc66.jpg
01:36:366 (4,1) - Same as ^ it's just awkward to play
changed entire pattern to use more sharp angles

01:47:586 (4,5,1) - Is this balance right? looks like it? i measured it with a slider-ruler and it was fine
01:59:049 (3,4) - You can stack this http://puu.sh/sP6hh/e66a8d14aa.jpg ya
02:01:244 (4,5) - Really close imo spaced out a bit
02:01:000 (3,4) - For some odd reason rhythm here sounds out of place. I was thinking more on the line of a 1/2 and a note http://puu.sh/sP6m2/97e1bafa4d.jpg slider is on that piano chord thing.
02:02:464 (2,3,4,5) - Same as ^ kind of an erratic movement. You're forcing players to change their flow to notes when it should be the players being guided to hit them moved around a bit. also, that other rhythm is now uniform with the one at 2.01.000
02:02:952 (3,4) - Also was planning a rhythm like http://puu.sh/sP6r7/9887df6842.jpg similiar thing as mentioned before
02:07:830 (1,2) - Spacing wise here differs a lot from more subtle movements 02:08:074 (2,3) - Since (1) is the one with the bass emphasis 5>1 increased. 2 has vocal emphasis so that has spacing.
02:22:708 (3,4,1,2) - There we go nice nice
03:19:049 (3,4) - Repeat pls Not much difference from 03:16:122 (1,3) - Since 03:19:781 (4) - Already gives enough emphasis for the upcoming slider big reason for the circles here was the different word + that rhythm was repeated 3 times in the map already, no need to change it now when it fits imo.
03:23:440 (4,5) - It'd be really clean if you changed this into a slider so all 4 of them can balance aesthetically while i agree that it would be very clean (it was like that originally) i really wanted to highlight the intro of the next part of the song with an arguably overmapped circle. it makes better contrast imo. i'll consider changing this.
04:16:610 (5) - Can be NCable here to keep it 4x4 and kept short k
That should be all

Key Areas to improve on

1. Utilize your sliders a little better. I do agree movement is what makes or break a map but having erratic movements and strange slider placements can do the same
2. Check Hitsounds

Shurelia wrote:

fast reply cause I'm a good m4m peep

[GeneraL]

1. Seems you didn't use drum-sliderslide.wav at all. probably should just throw it. ye
2. 04:20:386 - le double green at here. ye ye
3. Alright since AImod didn't mention it mean you wouldn't know about this : There are bunch of unsnapped green line which make thing unrankable for you. I'll mention 'em for you : 04:18:440 - , 04:19:415 - , 04:19:537 - , 04:20:391 - , and the double one. Hope it should be all. ye
4. Artist should be : "そらる" while the romaji one can stays.
5. and the title should be : "ユラユラ" , while the romaji would be "Yurayura".
6. aaand tags , oh right, Let's see... : Yuutamari no Shiori , 夕溜まりのしおり , SCGA-20 , ナノウ , Nanou
7. here's the link for the metadata : http://soraru.tokyo/
8. BG did not expressing the music well. Here's a thing : https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/g3ZLKQm6
9. oh about "Swaying" thing , you could just use it as the diff name. It'll looks much much better imo.

ye
[sad song]

1. 00:13:440 (3) - probably should just stay with double circle since it plays better than the current one sure
2. 00:31:732 (1) - not fully stacked 1 is perfectly stacked on 3 end, 2 is not supposed to be stacked.
3. 00:38:318 (2) - move this to x:184 y:92 for a better looking and more sharp movement to ephasize the (3) more? kinda highly suggest this makes sense, and balanced the triple on the other side too.
4. 00:58:318 (4) - should just stack this with 00:57:586 (1) - to reduce the emphasize on (5) since the song itself didn't need that much of that. yeah
5. 01:08:561 (5,6) - should add more distance since as you hear the sudden increase of voice give more intense feeling. how about x:256 y:256 looks? buffed, but not that much.
6. 01:16:122 (9,10,11,12,13) - this much of stacks is meh to be played. how about something like this ? https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/A3Ed3rWx adjusted downwards, but not that much
7. 01:15:147 (7) - oh you forgot to NC this. Ye XD
8. 01:38:074 (4) - I really want to click something on the tail to follow the vocal more. Make it into 2 circles instead? will try it.
9. 02:05:879 (1) - CTRL + H and place it around x:104 y:28 since the sudden corner movement is kinda too much for me. k nerfed
10. 02:12:220 (2,3,4,5,6) - quite confusing cause these two looks the exact same. Maybe you can just un-stack 2 and 3. will try it, dont think it's that bad though.
11. 02:21:976 (1) - no need NC at here.
12. 02:51:000 (1,2) - not completely stacked. slider leniency problem, this is fine imo.
13. 03:09:537 (4) - need a rework on this one. Since it doesn't looks smooth enough. made it more angular lol
14. 03:44:476 (3) - missplaced, should be on the white, lol :<
15. 04:33:927 (1,2) - not a complete stack
16. 04:49:781 (1,3) - stack or not stack. Make your choice. Should be stacked tho fuck it stack leniency changed to 4 stack everything
17. 05:22:952 (6,7,8,9) - uwaaah, didn't looks neat enough for me. ok reworked
18. 05:35:635 - you should really add a spinner at here . I mean , really. You should. no

Quite a nice map , it follows the song nicely but yeh, need moar mods to polish it.

Good luck.

Hobbes2 wrote:

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hey its ya boy late man

[General]

drum-sliderslide.wav unused? ok ok removed holy

drum-hitclap.mp3 <-- convert this to .wav, its recommended not to use .mp3s for hitsounds i dont think the delay is unrankable so whatever if its an issue ill change it but lazy idk

you should really look into having more than 1 combo color, at least another shade of gray maybe? theres two different shades of gray

[the map]

00:08:805 (1,5) - Fix stack

00:15:147 (3,4,5) - To make this neater, make the distance between 3's tail, 4, and 5's tail the same

00:24:171 (5) - fix stack

00:28:074 (5) - consider stacking under 00:28:805 (2)'s tail, feels like it would this pattern as a whole a bit better.

00:31:732 (1) - NC should be on 00:32:220 (2) - instead

00:36:610 (3,6) - stack these? feels like weird that they aren't

00:43:440 (5,1,4) - This little area feels really cramped due to all of these objects being very close together, so I suggest moving 00:44:659 (4) - away from it ya

00:45:635 (8) - No jump for this? ya

00:45:147 (7,8,1,2) - If you don't change the above, make this neater by using equilateral triangles - like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6859954 close enough idk

00:49:537 (4,4) - why not stack these and put em in the exact center of the triangle formed by 1,2,3 messed up spacing too much, i think it's fine

01:23:683 (2,4) - fix blanket
01:30:757 (1,3) - ^

01:40:513 (1) - move this to where 01:41:976 (5) - is imo think too big spacing again

01:46:366 (1,3,4) - I think this pattern looks much nicer if 3, 1's head and 4 are equal distance from each other.

01:49:537 (4,1) - You could blanket these

01:51:244 (3) - ^if you fix that properly, stack the tail of this on top of 4

02:19:293 (9) - jump? i think the small spacing on that entire section is fine cuz of the quiet vocals, also its a jump out of a stream so it has decent emphasis anyway

02:39:537 (6,7) - ctrl+g of these would flow better, but this would remove the jump to 02:40:025 (8) - unfortunately

03:02:464 (1,2,3) - this feels a bet excessive in terms of spacing brought more in line with other similar championsrhythms

03:11:732 (5,1) - blanket

03:37:586 (1,5) - I think these should be stacking if 03:38:074 (2,6) - are stacking

04:37:098 (4,5,6) - not a fan of the flow here generic back and forth, dont see the problem here

04:45:879 (1,4) - not a good overlap imo, you dont do this kinda thing in this map so it looks out of place to me yeah, changed

and that's all ive got

gl!

BounceBabe wrote:

🕓⌛ TWENTY MINUTES ⌛🕓

special request: hitsounds

titles (your diff name) should be capitalised thoroughly w

first of all, the CCs blend too much with the bg. they also are the same or nearly the same shade, which is both likely unrankable. consider using different shades of grey that dont blend with the bg as much. sure.. the issue is. the video and background have no color, so thematically it makes no sense to use different colors than gray.

hitsounds are also sometimes too low, inaudible hitsounds are unrankable too. especially the beginning is too low. consider adding 10-15% overall. ok sur

1479237392451.png unused file

drum-hitclap.wav has a delay thats unrankable

k

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04:20:391 - 05:37:586 - not snapped timing lines

http://puu.sh/sSPDt/3c9262f409.png multiple timing lines at the same time and also not snapped
fuck green line shit stress

00:31:732 (1,2) - reverse NC, 00:32:220 - is the new bar reason here is that i didnt want a 1 combo nc, but i also wanted to nc on the loud vocal that was introduced here.

00:39:537 (7,1,2,3) - thats lovely

00:44:659 (4,5) - dont think the jump is appropriate for a Hard difficulty. use normal ds. also contradicts with the rest of your mapping same 01:25:147 (1,2) - 02:51:000 (1,2) -
i don't see how the first point is related to the 2nd and 3rd ones. re: first one- i think the kickslider is fine, because it highlights a unique sound in the music. for the 2nd and 3rd ones, i think that pattern compliments the guitar that comes in. i also do similar things at the start of every kiai.

01:08:561 (5) - would be much better flow-wise like this http://puu.sh/sSOYJ/edbbeb4e97.jpg changed

02:12:220 (2,3,4,5,6) - that jump kinda doesnt fit here since the drums are all the same. try smth like this: http://puu.sh/sSPbW/5de159681d.jpg same 02:20:269 (4,5,6,7) - changed more equal

03:08:318 (1) - too far away to flow well. a little bit more to the left would be smoother to play goal here is to make the player reach for that slider, since it has lot of emphasis. i think it's fine as-is.

04:30:757 (2,3) - try this http://puu.sh/sSPpG/009ee11a1e.jpg will flow nicer k

04:33:927 (1,2,3,4) - try stacking things like that better ok

05:22:952 (6) - NC

as for hitsounds

try adding a soft whistle every new bar at the beginning 00:01:001 - 00:02:952 - 00:04:903 - etc

00:20:269 (6) - drum clap or finish would work here on these drums

00:35:147 - 00:35:635 - whistle , 00:41:000 - 00:41:488 - 00:47:342 - 00:46:854 - no whistle? try adding them and further

you need more consistency on the hitsounds, you vary between finish and soft whistle a lot in kiai. 01:29:781 (3) - 01:34:659 - add consistent soft whistle on new bars here too for the kiai, not just finish and remove these soft whistles 01:32:220 (4,1) -

this pretty much repeats, rest is pretty good