2016-11-13 19:20 Atrue: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1122817 Swimy - Acchi Muite [Insane]]
2016-11-13 19:20 Atrue: i just spent like a whole day almost 10 hours in 3 diffs
2016-11-13 19:20 Atrue: in my new set
2016-11-13 19:20 Atrue: even though i copy paste a bit lol
2016-11-13 19:20 [Soul]: thank god a no video DL
2016-11-13 19:20 [Soul]: Praise the lord
2016-11-13 19:21 Atrue: lol
2016-11-13 19:22 Atrue: i'm also not good at controlling distances so don't worry too much
2016-11-13 19:22 Atrue: but you need to tidy them up in a way
2016-11-13 19:23 [Soul]: Seems to me like it will be a DT farm mapset lol
2016-11-13 19:23 Atrue: yeah lol
2016-11-13 19:23 Atrue: jumps
2016-11-13 19:23 Atrue: x.x
2016-11-13 19:24 Atrue: just happen to see that there is no ranked version of this song
2016-11-13 19:24 Atrue: do you wanna to give your first mod for this map?
2016-11-13 19:25 Atrue: just speak a bit for advices, random opinions can also help!
2016-11-13 19:30 [Soul]: tfw you can't follow the patterns ;-;
2016-11-13 19:31 Atrue: ;w;
2016-11-13 19:31 Atrue: you can start from lower diffs too
2016-11-13 19:31 [Soul]: I aimed the size of the 234 the same as the 567 in the insane diff lol
2016-11-13 19:31 [Soul]: But that was just me
2016-11-13 19:31 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 19:32 [Soul]: 00:13:431 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2016-11-13 19:33 Atrue: lol
2016-11-13 19:33 Atrue: someone indeed will have this feeling
2016-11-13 19:33 Atrue: this is true
2016-11-13 19:33 Atrue: it in a way should be the same
2016-11-13 19:33 Atrue: but if is the same
2016-11-13 19:33 Atrue: it will be hard to play
2016-11-13 19:34 Atrue: or not so hard? but actually almost the same feeling
2016-11-13 19:34 Atrue: and also in random jumps it's pretty common
2016-11-13 19:34 Atrue: so people will just let it go lol
2016-11-13 19:35 Atrue: but this is a valid point and a lot of people will try to find this
2016-11-13 19:35 [Soul]: Doesnt need to be changed
2016-11-13 19:36 [Soul]: Just a matter of adapting
2016-11-13 19:36 Atrue: but for the first play if you feel not good
2016-11-13 19:36 Atrue: you can just feel free to speak it out
2016-11-13 19:36 Atrue: that's modding
2016-11-13 19:36 Atrue: and find some support ideas
2016-11-13 19:39 [Soul]: Who is this Jinx guy?
2016-11-13 19:39 Atrue: which one?
2016-11-13 19:39 [Soul]: Messages me like. "How's the program going"
2016-11-13 19:40 [Soul]: Jinx1337
2016-11-13 19:40 Atrue: haha
2016-11-13 19:40 Atrue: he is a helper for the program
2016-11-13 19:40 [Soul]: Hasn't done any mapping or anything
2016-11-13 19:40 [Soul]: Like out of the blue
2016-11-13 19:40 Atrue: you mean us?
2016-11-13 19:40 Atrue: or him?
2016-11-13 19:40 [Soul]: him
2016-11-13 19:41 Atrue: lol
2016-11-13 19:41 Atrue: just a helper
2016-11-13 19:41 Atrue: not a supervisor
2016-11-13 19:41 Atrue: but it's good to let the program know our progress
2016-11-13 19:42 Atrue:
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/J1NX13372016-11-13 19:42 Atrue: this is him
2016-11-13 19:42 Atrue: not
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/JiNX13372016-11-13 19:42 [Soul]: oh lol
2016-11-13 19:42 Atrue: lol
2016-11-13 19:42 [Soul]: tilted by 1'
2016-11-13 19:43 Atrue: you know when i moderated channels
2016-11-13 19:43 Atrue: people try to confuse moderators with this kind of trick
2016-11-13 19:43 Atrue: o and 0 stuff
2016-11-13 19:43 Atrue: also l and I and 1
2016-11-13 19:44 [Soul]: anyway
2016-11-13 19:47 [Soul]: 00:55:463 (4,5,6,7,8) - On the hard diff. play wise. The 6 being covered by the slider.
2016-11-13 19:48 [Soul]: Fairly quick section too
2016-11-13 19:48 Atrue: good point!
2016-11-13 19:48 [Soul]: But isnt that much of an issue if people notice the AC
2016-11-13 19:48 Atrue: it can lead to hardship in reading
2016-11-13 19:48 Atrue: and here is not intended to cover that
2016-11-13 19:49 Atrue: do you got any idea of how to change that?
2016-11-13 19:49 [Soul]: Nope lol
2016-11-13 19:49 Atrue: I got it~
2016-11-13 19:49 Atrue: just move the 6,7,8 a bit in ds
2016-11-13 19:50 Atrue: actually it's just at screen edge
2016-11-13 19:50 Atrue: lemme see what to do with it
2016-11-13 19:50 [Soul]: And or angle the slider.
2016-11-13 19:51 Atrue: not in a favor in doing so, or the structure will be easy to break
2016-11-13 19:51 Atrue:
https://puu.sh/shp70/1b5298ad30.png2016-11-13 19:52 Atrue: changed it into this way
2016-11-13 19:52 [Soul]: That works too
2016-11-13 19:52 [Soul]: My mistakeful brain would have turned it into a mess lol
2016-11-13 19:52 Atrue: nah
2016-11-13 19:53 Atrue: it's just experience
2016-11-13 19:53 Atrue: rather than making a new slider
2016-11-13 19:53 Atrue: moving notes will be a easier way
2016-11-13 19:53 Atrue: since notes as less important in structure
2016-11-13 19:53 Atrue: but more important in rhythm
2016-11-13 19:54 [Soul]: How 2 puush
2016-11-13 19:54 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 19:54 Atrue: by the way do you know how to save chat log?
2016-11-13 19:54 [Soul]: I have them auto saved
2016-11-13 19:54 Atrue: yeah you need to just get the software lol
2016-11-13 19:54 Atrue: lemme find the website
2016-11-13 19:54 Atrue:
http://puush.me/2016-11-13 19:55 Atrue: and get it installed
2016-11-13 19:55 [Soul]: My brain on the whole pattern
2016-11-13 19:55 [Soul]:
http://imgur.com/a/8s6Bx2016-11-13 19:55 [Soul]: <- fuckin retard lol
2016-11-13 19:55 Atrue: that
2016-11-13 19:55 Atrue: also
2016-11-13 19:55 Atrue: wonderful
2016-11-13 19:55 Atrue: !!!
2016-11-13 19:55 Atrue: nice pattern!!!
2016-11-13 19:55 Atrue: I'll do this lol
2016-11-13 19:57 [Soul]: lol I thought you didnt want to bend the slider lol
2016-11-13 19:57 [Soul]: wut
2016-11-13 19:57 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 19:58 Atrue: we can
2016-11-13 19:58 [Soul]: 01:06:693 (3,4,5,1) -
2016-11-13 19:58 [Soul]: Spacing might be a bit too extreme
2016-11-13 19:58 [Soul]: I dunno
2016-11-13 19:59 Atrue:
https://puu.sh/shpx5/bbca962e7c.png2016-11-13 20:00 Atrue: what concerned me here
2016-11-13 20:00 Atrue: is the distance
2016-11-13 20:00 Atrue: 01:06:854 (4,5,1) -
2016-11-13 20:00 Atrue: is not well differed from each other
2016-11-13 20:00 Atrue: also the overlap
2016-11-13 20:01 [Soul]: Hmm
2016-11-13 20:02 Atrue:
https://puu.sh/shpGW/a89c6a9ac5.png2016-11-13 20:03 Atrue: actually when playing I would say 2x for a single jump is not too bad in this diff
2016-11-13 20:03 Atrue: just a single jump
2016-11-13 20:04 Atrue: actually this
2016-11-13 20:04 Atrue:
https://puu.sh/shpPo/a48b042500.png2016-11-13 20:05 [Soul]:
https://puu.sh/shpPK/5a7644e4ab.jpg2016-11-13 20:05 [Soul]: Possible square?
2016-11-13 20:05 [Soul]: But then the slider copy paste is screwed up after
2016-11-13 20:05 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 20:05 [Soul]: Hm
2016-11-13 20:05 Atrue: actually that is fine lol
2016-11-13 20:05 [Soul]: I guess its not that bad lol
2016-11-13 20:06 Atrue: since 5-1 is 1/2
2016-11-13 20:06 Atrue: so it's not good to make the same distance
2016-11-13 20:06 Atrue: nah 1/1
2016-11-13 20:06 Atrue: with 1/2
2016-11-13 20:06 [Soul]: My concern was 4-5
2016-11-13 20:07 [Soul]: but me
2016-11-13 20:07 [Soul]: h
2016-11-13 20:07 Atrue: yeah i know
2016-11-13 20:07 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 20:07 Atrue: 4-5 make a triangle is a good thing though
2016-11-13 20:07 Atrue: but i just tried to make a small jump here
2016-11-13 20:07 [Soul]: Yea its repeated a bunch too
2016-11-13 20:07 Atrue: 01:11:987 -
2016-11-13 20:07 [Soul]: Shouldnt be much of an issue
2016-11-13 20:08 Atrue: like here
2016-11-13 20:08 Atrue: yeah that is consistensy
2016-11-13 20:09 [Soul]: 01:18:565 (5,1) - But the stack works
2016-11-13 20:09 [Soul]: Why am I commenting on this lol
2016-11-13 20:09 [Soul]: wtf
2016-11-13 20:09 [Soul]: xD
2016-11-13 20:10 Atrue: yeah
2016-11-13 20:10 Atrue: that's good to find that
2016-11-13 20:10 [Soul]: Common shit for hard maps
2016-11-13 20:10 Atrue: since it's a note on a slider
2016-11-13 20:10 Atrue: not a slider on a note
2016-11-13 20:10 Atrue: easier to know
2016-11-13 20:10 Atrue: at least personally i think so
2016-11-13 20:12 [Soul]: The GD insane
2016-11-13 20:12 [Soul]: 00:08:619 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2016-11-13 20:12 Atrue: ah that's not my part
2016-11-13 20:12 [Soul]: Why is the 5 on the 1
2016-11-13 20:12 [Soul]: I know
2016-11-13 20:12 [Soul]: but
2016-11-13 20:12 Atrue: you can leave a mod there since i don't have the right to touch that lol
2016-11-13 20:12 [Soul]: Yea lol
2016-11-13 20:13 Atrue: lol
2016-11-13 20:13 Atrue: nice find
2016-11-13 20:13 Atrue: but it's just fine to do it in this way
2016-11-13 20:13 Atrue: not too bad right? with a small jump
2016-11-13 20:14 [Soul]: Nah but would probably feel better for people with just a plain pentagon
2016-11-13 20:15 Atrue: from my side it's fine, maybe you can just mention this in the mod post lol
2016-11-13 20:15 [Soul]: 00:23:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - On your insane. Intentional different triangle sizes?
2016-11-13 20:15 Atrue: see the mapper's reaction
2016-11-13 20:15 [Soul]: ./angle
2016-11-13 20:15 Atrue: sometimes they will
2016-11-13 20:16 Atrue: but that's because they are not mature
2016-11-13 20:16 Atrue: since mod is a help
2016-11-13 20:16 Atrue: not coming for fight
2016-11-13 20:16 Atrue: no one force people to fix anything
2016-11-13 20:16 [Soul]: Yea true
2016-11-13 20:16 [Soul]: I dunoo just looked weird to me lol
2016-11-13 20:17 [Soul]: It will be fine in the long run anyway
2016-11-13 20:17 Atrue: I just made this not for triangle, but for something like hexagon?
2016-11-13 20:17 Atrue: maybe~ we just suggest
2016-11-13 20:17 Atrue: but for some points if that is unrankable
2016-11-13 20:17 Atrue: and if you are the bn trying to pushing the set forward
2016-11-13 20:18 Atrue: don't rank/bubble it with any known unrankable issues remaining
2016-11-13 20:18 [Soul]: Yea lol
2016-11-13 20:18 [Soul]: 00:27:549 (1,2,3) - different slider end sizes if intentional
2016-11-13 20:20 Atrue: this is just not too bad... or do you get any ideas about this?
2016-11-13 20:20 Atrue: also if you get a good idea people will more likely to accepty
2016-11-13 20:27 [Soul]: Is the map hitsounded?
2016-11-13 20:27 [Soul]: Just curious?
2016-11-13 20:27 Atrue: yeah
2016-11-13 20:28 [Soul]: 00:49:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - This part sounds weird.
2016-11-13 20:28 Atrue: you can use view-volume
2016-11-13 20:28 Atrue: to see the overall hitsound
2016-11-13 20:29 [Soul]: Oh never mind
2016-11-13 20:29 [Soul]: My mind picked up different sounds within the music
2016-11-13 20:29 Atrue: not sure where it is lol
2016-11-13 20:29 [Soul]: Oh it was like
2016-11-13 20:29 Atrue: yeah maybe something is not right there
2016-11-13 20:29 [Soul]: 5-1
2016-11-13 20:29 [Soul]: 5,6,7,8 - 1
2016-11-13 20:30 [Soul]: But I hear what you heard
2016-11-13 20:30 [Soul]: never mind
2016-11-13 20:30 Atrue: 00:50:330 (6) - yeah i tired to use a finish in drumset to cover this blur triplet lol
2016-11-13 20:31 Atrue: also not pretty sure how to make it better lol
2016-11-13 20:31 [Soul]: Same lol
2016-11-13 20:31 [Soul]: 01:01:560 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - The stream looks pretty messy lol 01:01:560 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) -
2016-11-13 20:31 [Soul]: Opps
2016-11-13 20:31 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 20:32 Atrue: i guess this is gonna be fine? look it in this way
2016-11-13 20:32 Atrue: 3-6
2016-11-13 20:32 Atrue: 7-10
2016-11-13 20:32 [Soul]: Oh are you trying to V it?
2016-11-13 20:33 Atrue: yeah
2016-11-13 20:33 [Soul]: Might want to clean it.
2016-11-13 20:33 [Soul]: Its not even with its opposites lol
2016-11-13 20:33 Atrue: although not really good at patterning this kind of stuff
2016-11-13 20:34 Atrue: what do you mean by opposite?
2016-11-13 20:35 [Soul]:
https://puu.sh/shruj/ed29e75745.jpg2016-11-13 20:35 [Soul]: Making it even
2016-11-13 20:36 [Soul]: Like on the same line
2016-11-13 20:36 [Soul]: from the other side of the V
2016-11-13 20:36 [Soul]: ./ Triangle
2016-11-13 20:36 Atrue: oh i got your idea
2016-11-13 20:36 Atrue: actually
2016-11-13 20:37 Atrue: it doesn't need to be horizontal
2016-11-13 20:37 Atrue: with the axis
2016-11-13 20:37 Atrue: similar idea with 15 degree?
2016-11-13 20:38 [Soul]: Maybe.
2016-11-13 20:38 [Soul]: I just think the first stream that was there before was messy
2016-11-13 20:38 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 20:38 [Soul]: A little jittery
2016-11-13 20:38 Atrue: might be lol
2016-11-13 20:39 [Soul]: Like 7-10 is a fine angle
2016-11-13 20:39 [Soul]: It was just 3-6 that seemed a little off place
2016-11-13 20:39 [Soul]: 4 was up whem 3,5,6 were pretty much paralle
2016-11-13 20:40 Atrue: hmm dunno lol
2016-11-13 20:40 Atrue: ah for this
2016-11-13 20:40 Atrue: just really too tiny stuff in lining up the stream
2016-11-13 20:40 Atrue: sometimes it's not too important in gameplay
2016-11-13 20:41 [Soul]: I guess lol
2016-11-13 20:41 [Soul]: 01:27:068 (1,2,3) - I'd end this with a final jump section lol
2016-11-13 20:42 [Soul]: Since there are little extra beats that I hear anyway
2016-11-13 20:42 Atrue: lemme see
2016-11-13 20:42 Atrue: interesting
2016-11-13 20:43 Atrue: it's a good idea and I thought about that
2016-11-13 20:43 Atrue: just don't want to make it too hard in the end lol
2016-11-13 20:43 [Soul]: Star jump?
2016-11-13 20:43 [Soul]: Pentagon?
2016-11-13 20:43 [Soul]: Back and forth?
2016-11-13 20:43 [Soul]: I dunno
2016-11-13 20:43 Atrue: yeah what i think is star
2016-11-13 20:43 [Soul]: lol
2016-11-13 20:44 Atrue: just don't want people miss a note here
2016-11-13 20:44 Atrue: then considering the jumping part is not easy
2016-11-13 20:45 Atrue: you know people will get angry
2016-11-13 20:45 Atrue: lol
2016-11-13 20:45 [Soul]:
https://puu.sh/shrZr/47577bc71b.jpg2016-11-13 20:46 Atrue: nice pattern, but I'll just keep as it is for now lol
2016-11-13 20:46 [Soul]: kk
2016-11-13 20:46 Atrue: maybe if i someday want to make a change
2016-11-13 20:46 Atrue: it will be a choice
2016-11-13 20:46 Atrue: you learn pretty fast in modding lol
2016-11-13 20:48 [Soul]: Is that a bad things? ;w;
2016-11-13 20:48 Atrue: that's pretty good
2016-11-13 20:48 Atrue: not bad at all
2016-11-13 20:49 [Soul]: I dunno
2016-11-13 20:49 Atrue: just keep going
2016-11-13 20:49 [Soul]: Those things were really the only things that confused me lol
2016-11-13 20:49 [Soul]: Everything else seemed fine lol
2016-11-13 20:49 Atrue: that's already a good start