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Low

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Topic Starter

Low 2016-10-26T00:25:48+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, September 28, 2020 at 10:57:34 PM

Artist: Nekomata Master+
Title: encounter
Source: jubeat saucer fulfill
Tags: bemani konami plus naoyuki sato 佐藤直之音源 examination sing irreversible
BPM: 190
Filesize: 5622kb
Play Time: 00:12
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (2.69 stars, 29 notes)
Extreme (5.78 stars, 825 notes)
Hyper (4.35 stars, 389 notes)
Insane (5.13 stars, 624 notes)

Download: Nekomata Master+ - encounter
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by Low 2020-09-29T02:57:50+00:00, edited 39 times in total.

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Logic Agent 2016-10-30T22:41:59+00:00

hi m4m stuff.

[General]

turn widescreen support off on BASIC diff
is ar5 hp4 on a "normal" diff standard cause it seems like a hellish place to start for a new player trying the map
dark blue is a toxic combo color

[Another]

00:02:010 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i feel like at the moment this shape emphasizes nothing in the combo, making the strong point of 6 play like any other note, maybe change this pattern?
00:08:325 (1,2,3,4) - you could space these out a tiny bit more if you wanted to, so that the small overlap on the circles is gone
00:09:273 (1,2,3) - maybe space these more, i know you already did because it's 1/3 and you want it to be noticeable but I think during gameplay with these kinds of rhythms this will be misread if it's not super obvious
00:15:904 (1,2,3) - these might be a bit overkill
00:19:694 (2,3,4,5) - feel like these should start on the white tick..
00:25:694 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why not continue the trend you started of the bursts facing away from each other?
01:02:641 (1,2) - these should probably be further away from the last kick slider.. if not a lot then just a bit
01:05:168 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe do something like this instead?

sorry for the short mod, but overall the map looks good to me and I'm not tryna nitpick every diff for problems that aren't really there. good luck!

Low

2,006 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

Low 2016-10-30T23:48:59+00:00

Logic Agent wrote:
hi m4m stuff.

[General]
turn widescreen support off on BASIC diff i gave all diffs widescreen support instead
is ar5 hp4 on a "normal" diff standard cause it seems like a hellish place to start for a new player trying the map i see where you're coming from, but i believe ar5 hp4 is fine for this diff. it follows a very consistent rhythm throughout, so it shouldn't be a problem
dark blue is a toxic combo color fits bg
[Another]
00:02:010 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i feel like at the moment this shape emphasizes nothing in the combo, making the strong point of 6 play like any other note, maybe change this pattern? i did this intentionally to start the map off kind of unexciting and basic to contrast with when the dnb starts kicking in
00:08:325 (1,2,3,4) - you could space these out a tiny bit more if you wanted to, so that the small overlap on the circles is gone fix
00:09:273 (1,2,3) - maybe space these more, i know you already did because it's 1/3 and you want it to be noticeable but I think during gameplay with these kinds of rhythms this will be misread if it's not super obvious hm, i think this is fine. the high AR should give it away to people that these are definitely not 1/2. if more people say something about this, i will change it though
00:15:904 (1,2,3) - these might be a bit overkill i can play it consistently and im rank 13k
00:19:694 (2,3,4,5) - feel like these should start on the white tick.. i did this intentionally to follow the "whoosh" sounds in the music
00:25:694 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why not continue the trend you started of the bursts facing away from each other? ok, changed
01:02:641 (1,2) - these should probably be further away from the last kick slider.. if not a lot then just a bit i placed them close so the space between them wouldnt be too hard to clear
01:05:168 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe do something like this instead? fixed

sorry for the short mod, but overall the map looks good to me and I'm not tryna nitpick every diff for problems that aren't really there. good luck!

thank you

Yuii-

2,503 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2016-11-01T19:40:15+00:00

Did some short IRC with Irreversible, after not having checked the map for some time B)

Irre's EX is

2016-11-01 16:28 Irreversible: hey yuii
2016-11-01 16:29 Irreversible: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1119273 Nekomata Master+ - encounter [EX]]
2016-11-01 16:29 Irreversible: my map is here now
2016-11-01 16:29 Irreversible: i nerfed the kiai
2016-11-01 16:30 Yuii-: 00:08:799 (2) - isn't this undermapped?
2016-11-01 16:30 Yuii-: oooh gotcha
2016-11-01 16:30 Irreversible: it follows the subtle sound
2016-11-01 16:31 Irreversible: which only appears there
2016-11-01 16:32 Yuii-: personal here, but 00:57:826 (2,3) - more emphasis there; or adding a note on 00:57:983 - would be nice
2016-11-01 16:33 Yuii-: 01:23:483 - hp drains drastically, adding a break is B)
2016-11-01 16:34 Yuii-: 01:41:325 (2,3) - literally my avatar, might be too much
2016-11-01 16:34 Irreversible: 00:57:826 (2,3) - going with more emphasis
2016-11-01 16:34 Yuii-: everything else looks pretty cool
2016-11-01 16:35 Irreversible: you're right about the last one
2016-11-01 16:35 Irreversible: 01:24:147 - i kinda liked how people die here
2016-11-01 16:35 Irreversible: XD jk
2016-11-01 16:35 Irreversible: might put a break her
2016-11-01 16:35 Irreversible: e
2016-11-01 16:35 Irreversible: you can post the log if you want XD
2016-11-01 16:37 Yuii-: will actually do this time because i need my modding activity to be even higher l o l

Rumia-

2,513 posts

Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2016-11-02T06:25:22+00:00

from my queue ~
even tho u ask me to mod another i mod ex for irre as well~

[Another]
00:02:168 (2,3) - maybe you can ctrl g this fits the music better i feel! same as 00:02:641 (5,6) - if you agree
00:04:536 (1,2,3) - reflect the next triangle 00:05:010 (4,5,6) - ?
00:10:694 (8) - delete this feels better emphasision on (7)
00:36:589 (1,2) - swap nc since 1/3 starts at (2)
01:08:641 (1,1) - ow man this stack a little confusing.. maybe set SL to 3 ?? or just unstack this cuz its the only 1/3 stack on the rest of the map
01:56:444 (2,4) - hmm what are these?? sorry i cant here the 1/8 snapping please explain~
this tsuka vibe kind of structure , really hope u will rank it! really miss stuffs like this it has been away from osu for long nowadays ;_;

[EX]
00:08:404 - add circle here? or make previous circle as kick slider
00:27:194 (8) - maybe continue overlap like 00:26:878 (6,7) -
01:13:536 - add circle here? the sound is quite catchy
01:22:852 (1) - add break after slider ??
01:35:168 (1,2,3,4,5) - because of the SL settings this 1/2 gap somehow confusing since it is perfectly stack

01:41:325 (2,3) - swap position of this ? match the intensity of the song i feel~
01:41:799 (1,2) - unperfect stack, same as 01:43:062 (1,3) -
01:44:799 (6,6) - nc??
01:53:562 (2,3) - o boi , since u never did this on any other part maybe.. not to do this lol

you are such a genius mapper!

Low

2,006 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

Low 2016-11-02T16:56:09+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
from my queue ~
even tho u ask me to mod another i mod ex for irre as well~

[Another]
00:02:168 (2,3) - maybe you can ctrl g this fits the music better i feel! same as 00:02:641 (5,6) - if you agree really like this, so changed
00:04:536 (1,2,3) - reflect the next triangle 00:05:010 (4,5,6) - ? did something else
00:10:694 (8) - delete this feels better emphasision on (7) nope. this leaves a whole measure of nothing mapped which i think is really out of place for such a beat heavy song
00:36:589 (1,2) - swap nc since 1/3 starts at (2) no. slider is 1/6 so i might as well
01:08:641 (1,1) - ow man this stack a little confusing.. maybe set SL to 3 ?? or just unstack this cuz its the only 1/3 stack on the rest of the map fix
01:56:444 (2,4) - hmm what are these?? sorry i cant here the 1/8 snapping please explain~ listen to the music at 25% speed and you will hear the guitar/bass kind of sound at those beats
this tsuka vibe kind of structure , really hope u will rank it! really miss stuffs like this it has been away from osu for long nowadays ;_;

thanks for your mod and kind words

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-11-02T17:31:55+00:00

Basic.
I definitely require an easier difficulty other than this. The bpm is pretty high, the chosen sv is pretty fast, and the chosen rhythms are really complexed. Being under 2 stars didn't made this difficulty appropriate to be the lowest difficulty in your mapset.
00:20:958 (4) - The music contains a noticable difference here. You'll want to consider a new combo here despite it breaks your combo cycle.
00:58:853 (3,4) - Please don't use this kind of a jump in this kind of difficulty please. It doesn't feel intended anyways.

Advanced.
00:19:536 (7) - I feel the musical change gets prominent after 00:19:694? Anyways, changing the hitsound logic from here didn't felt to reflecting those change sufficiently. You might want to use sampleset auto at (7).
00:32:010 (6,1) - Stack is definitely off, and I don't feel this to be an intended setting.
00:34:220 (5) - The combo feels really long imo? Consider a nc.
00:37:062 (2) - 1/3 snap fits the song.
00:55:536 (2,1) - Well this overlap doesn't feel nice imo. It would be better if you can get rid of this.
01:35:641 (4,5,6) - 01:38:168 (4,5,6) - 01:40:694 (4,5,6) - 01:45:747 (4,5,6) - 01:48:273 (4,5,6) - 01:50:799 (4,5,6) - In-game stack is slightly off. You'll want to deal with a manual stack or something.

Extreme.
00:31:378 (5,6,1) - This anti-jump usage combined with a stack didn't felt nice in readability. It's really unreadable when the approach circle lands.

Ex.
00:32:089 (4,5,6,1) - Rankable it maybe, but imo making the sliderpath more visible than now would ensure a better readability.
01:30:431 (7,8,1) - Stack issue.

Another.
00:52:299 (2) - Since the clear beats exist at 00:52:220 - 00:52:378 - 00:52:457, removing this object would've been better in emphasis. Besides, it feels a little overmapped.
I can't actually appreciate this diff properly... Tons of stuffs are just out of my head.

EX felt best in quality. Extreme umm could be more polished imo.

Low

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Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

Low 2016-11-02T17:58:11+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Basic.
I definitely require an easier difficulty other than this. The bpm is pretty high, the chosen sv is pretty fast, and the chosen rhythms are really complexed. Being under 2 stars didn't made this difficulty appropriate to be the lowest difficulty in your mapset. i think the rhythm is pretty consistent and rather simple throughout. however, i can agree with the bpm and sv. i'll see what i can do
00:20:958 (4) - The music contains a noticable difference here. You'll want to consider a new combo here despite it breaks your combo cycle. seems redundant imo
00:58:853 (3,4) - Please don't use this kind of a jump in this kind of difficulty please. It doesn't feel intended anyways. fix

Advanced.
00:19:536 (7) - I feel the musical change gets prominent after 00:19:694? Anyways, changing the hitsound logic from here didn't felt to reflecting those change sufficiently. You might want to use sampleset auto at (7). i think it's fine. i'm using the soft hitsound to follow the "whoosh" sound in the music
00:32:010 (6,1) - Stack is definitely off, and I don't feel this to be an intended setting. fix
00:34:220 (5) - The combo feels really long imo? Consider a nc. ok
00:37:062 (2) - 1/3 snap fits the song. i'm trying to keep rhythms on the simpler side in this difficult so the gap between basic and advanced isn't too big, so declined
00:55:536 (2,1) - Well this overlap doesn't feel nice imo. It would be better if you can get rid of this. i already tried changing this around, but this is just the way i wanted it and the overlap isn't that bad
01:35:641 (4,5,6) - 01:38:168 (4,5,6) - 01:40:694 (4,5,6) - 01:45:747 (4,5,6) - 01:48:273 (4,5,6) - 01:50:799 (4,5,6) - In-game stack is slightly off. You'll want to deal with a manual stack or something. did something. not sure if it's ok; i'll try to fix it more later

Extreme.
00:31:378 (5,6,1) - This anti-jump usage combined with a stack didn't felt nice in readability. It's really unreadable when the approach circle lands.ok

Ex.
00:32:089 (4,5,6,1) - Rankable it maybe, but imo making the sliderpath more visible than now would ensure a better readability.
01:30:431 (7,8,1) - Stack issue.

Another.
00:52:299 (2) - Since the clear beats exist at 00:52:220 - 00:52:378 - 00:52:457, removing this object would've been better in emphasis. Besides, it feels a little overmapped. i think this is fine. cool tricky rhythm imo
I can't actually appreciate this diff properly... Tons of stuffs are just out of my head.

EX felt best in quality. Extreme umm could be more polished imo. maybe instead of just saying "it could be more polished", you could provide some specific examples and overall advice so i could try to make it better.

Last edited by Low 2016-11-02T18:16:15+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Hikomori

840 posts

Joined November 2015

Hikomori 2016-11-02T18:15:51+00:00

Hi!
Mod from my queue

[BASIC]

00:52:537 (1,2) - those sliders are weird, if you want change them

00:58:379 (2) - maybe stack this with the end of the slider 00:56:326 (2)

01:41:800 (1) - this slider is ugly tho, that final curve is ugly like i said

01:43:063 (2) - ^

01:51:905 (1,2) - ^

[ADVANCED]

00:20:957 (1) - maybe you should stack this with 00:20:010 (2)

[EXTREME]

00:01:694 (3) - maybe change this slider? (this is a sugestion)

00:37:378 (1) - this slider is kinda weird

01:12:115 (5,6) - maybe you should change the start of those sliders

01:00:115 (1,2) - those sliders are a little ''ugly''

[Another]

00:58:062 (1) - this slider is kind of ugly

I didnt finded anything more xd

Cygnus

1,517 posts

Joined December 2011

Cygnus 2016-11-02T18:19:54+00:00

Hi!

[Basic]
• 00:55:062 (1,2) - I really find wavy sliders like these poorly made. Somehow I believe that these wavy sliders can still be improved aesthetically. Try following the coordinates below and see if you like it better than your current one.

SPOILER

*Make sure your grid snap is turned on.
*Grid snap level must be 3.

• I honestly don't see anything wrong with the structure and patterns of your circles but the difficulty throughout this diff is somehow inconsistent. Somehow, 00:47:483 - this part is harder than the kiai part (01:34:220 -) when I believe it should go the other way around since the kiai part has more "sounds" and I believe it is the part the should contain more notes since it is the highlight of the song. But that's just me. You can completely ignore this if you want since I'm kind of asking for remap on this one though as I said, I don't see anything wrong with the structure and patterns. :3

[Advanced]
• 00:36:589 (1,2) - These repeat sliders play awkward tbh. Maybe because on the previous sliders, you emphasized a different sound in the song and suddenly you decided to follow the little stream in the song. This seems to have broken the flow seems it is inconsistent with the previous patterns. What I can suggest for this part is your replace (1) with a 1/1 slider instead. This seems to make better sense than your current reverse sliders.

• 00:55:536 (2,3,1) - All other circles and sliders on this part are not overlapping but since you ran out of space to map on this part, you decided to just put it up anywhere. I think you could do something to avoid this overlap to make the idea of the patterns (idea that they're not overlapping) consistent.

[Extreme]
• 00:41:799 (3,4) - These reverse sliders are so awkward and I don't think they go with the music perfectly. I would suggest you remap this part and make sure you properly emphasize 00:41:957 - this part where the music makes a new transition.

[Ex]
• 00:16:378 (6) - I think you missed a new combo here since you placed a new combo on 00:13:852 - this too.

• 00:32:325 - I love this part. Perfectly done! Good job!

• 01:33:036 (2) - New combo here as well? Just to make it consistent with the stream on this part.

• 01:53:168 (1,2,3) - This has such a bad flow in my opinion. The spacing isn't an issue but the direction on how you want your cursor to move feels wrong. I think you can do better than this.

• Oh god your kiai part is a beast! Nothing much to say especially the last long slider. ♥ Very well done!

[Another]
• 00:52:220 (1,2,3) - This mini anti-jump stream pattern is really weird to play since it doesn't go well with the song. Why don't you just make the spacing consistent on these circles?

All told, the map is really fun to play especially the high-end diffs since they are all polished well. I don't really see much issues so good luck getting this ranked!

Low

2,006 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

Low 2016-11-02T19:50:22+00:00

[A L P H A] wrote:
Hi!
Mod from my queue

[BASIC]
00:52:537 (1,2) - those sliders are weird, if you want change them no, they are cool looking and add variation
00:58:379 (2) - maybe stack this with the end of the slider 00:56:326 (2) done
01:41:800 (1) - this slider is ugly tho, that final curve is ugly like i said same as i said previously
01:43:063 (2) - ^
01:51:905 (1,2) - ^
[ADVANCED]
00:20:957 (1) - maybe you should stack this with 00:20:010 (2) no
[EXTREME]
00:01:694 (3) - maybe change this slider? (this is a sugestion) no
00:37:378 (1) - this slider is kinda weird how? it's a normal wave slider
01:12:115 (5,6) - maybe you should change the start of those sliders fixed them a bit
01:00:115 (1,2) - those sliders are a little ''ugly'' no they aren't
[Another]
00:58:062 (1) - this slider is kind of ugly no it isn't

I didnt finded anything more xd

Cygnus wrote:
Hi!

[Basic]
• 00:55:062 (1,2) - I really find wavy sliders like these poorly made. Somehow I believe that these wavy sliders can still be improved aesthetically. Try following the coordinates below and see if you like it better than your current one. didn't change. i think the original is fine because i prefer the beauty in the asymmetry of these sliders
SPOILER
*Make sure your grid snap is turned on.
*Grid snap level must be 3.

• I honestly don't see anything wrong with the structure and patterns of your circles but the difficulty throughout this diff is somehow inconsistent. Somehow, 00:47:483 - this part is harder than the kiai part (01:34:220 -) when I believe it should go the other way around since the kiai part has more "sounds" and I believe it is the part the should contain more notes since it is the highlight of the song. But that's just me. You can completely ignore this if you want since I'm kind of asking for remap on this one though as I said, I don't see anything wrong with the structure and patterns. :3 i see what you mean. however, i assume what the creator of this diff (examination) did was map these parts to be more accurate to the music rather than simply making the kiai part harder just because it's the kiai. in higher end difficulties, i could understand this point more. however, since this is a normal difficulty, i think it's fine that the kiai is not the most challenging part of the song because it's more accurate to the music without making it too difficult for a difficulty of this caliber.

[Advanced]
• 00:36:589 (1,2) - These repeat sliders play awkward tbh. Maybe because on the previous sliders, you emphasized a different sound in the song and suddenly you decided to follow the little stream in the song. This seems to have broken the flow seems it is inconsistent with the previous patterns. What I can suggest for this part is your replace (1) with a 1/1 slider instead. This seems to make better sense than your current reverse sliders. ok, but i did something else.

• 00:55:536 (2,3,1) - All other circles and sliders on this part are not overlapping but since you ran out of space to map on this part, you decided to just put it up anywhere. I think you could do something to avoid this overlap to make the idea of the patterns (idea that they're not overlapping) consistent. like i said to sonnyc, i tried to fix this, but this was the best i could do. changing this pattern would require a complete overhaul of the entire next section in order to allow for this pattern to change. if you can provide an example of a good, non-overlapping pattern that i can use, then i will reconsider.

[Extreme]
• 00:41:799 (3,4) - These reverse sliders are so awkward and I don't think they go with the music perfectly. I would suggest you remap this part and make sure you properly emphasize 00:41:957 - this part where the music makes a new transition. i did this intentionally because i didn't want to make the rhythm too complex. it's technically an insane difficulty, yeah, but i think it's better to just stick to 1/3 here.

[Ex]
• 00:16:378 (6) - I think you missed a new combo here since you placed a new combo on 00:13:852 - this too.

• 00:32:325 - I love this part. Perfectly done! Good job!

• 01:33:036 (2) - New combo here as well? Just to make it consistent with the stream on this part.

• 01:53:168 (1,2,3) - This has such a bad flow in my opinion. The spacing isn't an issue but the direction on how you want your cursor to move feels wrong. I think you can do better than this.

• Oh god your kiai part is a beast! Nothing much to say especially the last long slider. ♥ Very well done!

[Another]
• 00:52:220 (1,2,3) - This mini anti-jump stream pattern is really weird to play since it doesn't go well with the song. Why don't you just make the spacing consistent on these circles? i really like this, so no change

All told, the map is really fun to play especially the high-end diffs since they are all polished well. I don't really see much issues so good luck getting this ranked!

thanks for modding

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2016-11-02T20:43:39+00:00

Hello!

Comming from your modding queue (M4M)

BOLD means: highly questionable/unrankeable
not BOLD means: it's only a suggestion/comment, whether you may or may not apply

[General]

Okay there are some woth mentioning problems with the spread:
- The difficulty spread names don't make too much sense. After ADVANCED we have EXTREME, them EX, which is awkward since abbreviations are more commonly used on o!mania difficulties. The hardest difficulty is not all capitals like the rest, "Another", which is very weird as well. I would recommend you to follow Sound Voltex III spread, which is: BASIC, NOVICE, ADVANCED, HYPER, EXHAUST, INFINITY, GRAVITY. I'm recommending that since "jubeat saucer fulfill" has only three difficulties, which will not cover the range of spread we need here in osu!.
- Another important issue with the spread is about the gap between the difficulties. Here we have a BASIC which is supposed to be an easier Normal difficulty, but it has high SV and very high spacing, making the star rating way higher than it should be, making it also not recommended for the easiest difficulty. Them we have an Advanced, which uses a very dense 1/2 rhythm through the entire song. The gap here is just as bad. If we take only the star rating into consideration it would be already a problem, plus the rhythm issue... you already know the conclusion. Extreme difficulty has A LOT of 1/4 rhythm and different patterns with jumps, which is not on any of the difficulties above, making the spread just as bad there as well. This is how I would fix this issue: Lower SV and DS on BASIC, them I would make a difficulty between BASIC and ADVANCED, and another between ADVANCED and EXTREME, Hyper for instance.
Desable Widescreen Support in every difficulty.
Stack leniency is too low and not recommended to use in almost any case.

[BASIC]

I will not talk about the SV and DS since I stated these issues in General, so here comes what I found:
All the settings are way too much for a BASIC difficulty. CS, HP and OD 4? It's way too much! I'd recommend lower all of them to 2 instead. CS can be between 2 and 3. I reckon AR can be decreased a little as well. 4.5 maybe.
00:02:010 - How come the song's intro is densier than the kiai? The kiai should be the most dense part of the song, which more complex rhythms, but it just seens like it's the opposite here. We have a bunch of 1/1 rhythms through the song's intro and 2/1 (or higher) after, which is pretty awkward when it comes to me. This also helps to make it innapropriated for being the easiest difficulty.
00:35:169 (4) - Double reverses are not recommended at this kind of difficulty, they can be very tricky and missleading. Beginners are not into that, they are mostly likely not to know how to deal with them, since it's not common to have them in difficulties below 3 stars. The high BPM makes it even harder to read with accuracy.
00:55:063 (1,2) - Small Comment: I reckon these sliders deserves some polishing. They just look uneaty.
00:56:326 (2,1) - This is a very confusing overlap for beginners. It may affect the readability of the pattern, since the slider is only 1/2.

This difficulty is not bad, it just can't be the easiest from the mapset, it's quite dense at the beginning (while not at the kiai), and it has some hard-to-read gaps, where one slider ends in the offbeat, and the next slider just starts on the next downbeat, this is very hard for beginners, not recommended for the easiest difficulties. I know sometimes it's unnavoiadable, but it's always good to try something else. Examples: 01:36:747 (1,2) - 01:05:168 (1,2) - etc.

[ADVANCED]

Very clean difficulty, nothing wrong with it, despiting that I couldn't get why the 0.3 decimals on the HP.

[EXTREME]

While there are very hard-to-read patterns like this one 00:09:273 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - (the 1/3 gap plus all the 1/4 following), there are some spots where it's just so easy to play, that it feels just awkward. 00:19:536 (1,2,3,4) - Like here. The song is getting heavier, stronger, and the stacking pattern you used just don't help at all to feel the song. I would recommend you to nerf a bit this song. I can play quite okay 4.8 star difficulties, but this one is just so hard... It doesn't look like 4.8 due to the lack of readability of some patterns. Examples: 00:10:852 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 00:20:957 (1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - and the one I mentioned eariler. You don't need to map all the noisy sound of the background, you may leave this to the extra, and, since this is the only insane to even the spread between a 3.5 stars hard and a 5.5 stars extra, we could have a balance of following just the most audible sound, and the 1/4 sound of the background. Use the more complex rhythm on the kiai instead. Example of a simpler rhythm: 00:14:641 (1,2,3) - .
00:23:168 (1,3) - I reckon those lack a bit of emphasis, the song quite ask for a jump here and there.
00:25:852 (2,3) - This is why you shouldn't have such low stack leniency, it's too hard to read stacked 1/4 or 1/2 rhythms.

The rhythm here is pretty good, you managed to catch every single detail of it. However, this resulted in a very difficult Insane, sometimes it's just impossible to read (if you consider a person who has no problems to play 4.8 stars insanes). I'd recommend you to ask people for a testplay on this difficulty, people who are insane players, not extra players. I reckon you should give more emphasis to the beats, some of them are really strong and they should be enhanced by some sort of jump, but, whem we don't have 1/4 complex rhythm here, we have constant distance snapping, which makes it a bit contradictory...

[EX]

I wouldn't recommend the 1/1 sliders usage in the song's intro, since the EXTREME difficulty, which is supposed to be easier, is much harder here actually, with a complex mix of 1/4 and 1/2 rhythm, and here we have mostly just 1/1, in a difficulty almost 1 star higher.

Nice difficulty there, nothing to point out as an issue.

That's it!

Good Luck.

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-11-02T23:08:10+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
from my queue ~
even tho u ask me to mod another i mod ex for irre as well~ Thx Rumia!

[EX]
00:08:404 - add circle here? or make previous circle as kick slider Hmm, I don't feel like that song is too strong.
00:27:194 (8) - maybe continue overlap like 00:26:878 (6,7) - good idea!
01:13:536 - add circle here? the sound is quite catchy mhm
01:22:852 (1) - add break after slider ?? No, I want that the player drains HP here so he fully has to focus to get HP back b4 the kiai.
01:35:168 (1,2,3,4,5) - because of the SL settings this 1/2 gap somehow confusing since it is perfectly stack mhm yeah gotta find a solution for that
01:41:325 (2,3) - swap position of this ? match the intensity of the song i feel~ yeah nice!
01:41:799 (1,2) - unperfect stack, same as 01:43:062 (1,3) - tht was weird anyway
01:44:799 (6,6) - nc?? okk
01:53:562 (2,3) - o boi , since u never did this on any other part maybe.. not to do this lol yea lol

you are such a genius mapper! Idk if that was to me or Low, or both, thanks anyway!

Sonnyc: Fixed all, thx!

Cygnus wrote:
[Ex]
• 00:16:378 (6) - I think you missed a new combo here since you placed a new combo on 00:13:852 - this too. ah yeah lol

• 00:32:325 - I love this part. Perfectly done! Good job! thaaanks!!

• 01:33:036 (2) - New combo here as well? Just to make it consistent with the stream on this part. ok

• 01:53:168 (1,2,3) - This has such a bad flow in my opinion. The spacing isn't an issue but the direction on how you want your cursor to move feels wrong. I think you can do better than this. yeah, someone else also said that

• Oh god your kiai part is a beast! Nothing much to say especially the last long slider. ♥ Very well done! Thanks <3

Lumael: Why not? I think having a smoother rhythm at the begin is something very fitting. But thanks for the suggestion!

Thanks for the mods guys~

osu file format v14

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296,125,98403,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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241,201,99352,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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266,227,100220,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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266,155,100457,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,191,100536,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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206,224,100773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,158,100852,1,0,0:0:0:0:
269,137,100931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,72,102747,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,280,102904,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,280,102983,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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402,104,103457,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,103,103536,2,0,B|440:112|468:168|448:215|448:215|428:211|428:193,1,167.999994873047
256,72,104010,5,0,0:0:0:0:
156,340,104168,2,0,P|104:356|80:348,1,41.9999987182618
44,256,104325,5,0,0:0:0:0:
45,239,104404,1,0,0:0:0:0:
61,235,104483,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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468,256,105273,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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451,235,105431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
442,249,105510,1,0,0:0:0:0:
453,262,105589,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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272,76,105826,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,72,105905,1,0,0:0:0:0:
247,86,105984,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,100,106062,6,0,P|296:88|312:56,1,57.7500005507469
198,264,106220,2,0,P|162:252|130:269,1,57.7500005507469
344,167,106378,2,0,P|367:197|402:203,1,57.7500005507469
169,159,106536,2,0,P|169:121|143:96,1,57.7500005507469
306,268,106694,2,0,P|284:299|290:334,1,57.7500005507469
474,182,106852,5,0,0:0:0:0:
487,142,106930,1,0,0:0:0:0:
479,102,107009,1,0,0:0:0:0:
439,111,107089,1,0,0:0:0:0:
410,140,107167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,280,107325,5,0,0:0:0:0:
433,320,107403,1,0,0:0:0:0:
425,360,107482,1,0,0:0:0:0:
385,351,107562,1,0,0:0:0:0:
356,322,107640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,322,107799,5,0,0:0:0:0:
127,351,107877,1,0,0:0:0:0:
87,360,107957,1,0,0:0:0:0:
79,320,108036,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,280,108114,1,0,0:0:0:0:
102,140,108272,5,0,0:0:0:0:
73,111,108350,1,0,0:0:0:0:
33,102,108430,1,0,0:0:0:0:
25,142,108509,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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468,192,109377,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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Low

2,006 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

Low 2016-11-02T23:40:07+00:00

Lumael wrote:
Hello!

Comming from your modding queue (M4M)

BOLD means: highly questionable/unrankeable
not BOLD means: it's only a suggestion/comment, whether you may or may not apply

[General]

Okay there are some woth mentioning problems with the spread:
- The difficulty spread names don't make too much sense. After ADVANCED we have EXTREME, them EX, which is awkward since abbreviations are more commonly used on o!mania difficulties. The hardest difficulty is not all capitals like the rest, "Another", which is very weird as well. I would recommend you to follow Sound Voltex III spread, which is: BASIC, NOVICE, ADVANCED, HYPER, EXHAUST, INFINITY, GRAVITY. I'm recommending that since "jubeat saucer fulfill" has only three difficulties, which will not cover the range of spread we need here in osu!. i think the difficulty names are fine. BASIC, ADVANCED, EXTREME follow the jubeat naming spread, while EX is a custom difficulty name that i feel represents the style of Irre's difficulty. naming Another is something i picked up from ignorethis's maps whenever he would map jubeat maps. another is the hardest difficulty, surpassing even "EXTREME"
- Another important issue with the spread is about the gap between the difficulties. Here we have a BASIC which is supposed to be an easier Normal difficulty, but it has high SV and very high spacing, making the star rating way higher than it should be, making it also not recommended for the easiest difficulty. Them we have an Advanced, which uses a very dense 1/2 rhythm through the entire song. The gap here is just as bad. If we take only the star rating into consideration it would be already a problem, plus the rhythm issue... you already know the conclusion. Extreme difficulty has A LOT of 1/4 rhythm and different patterns with jumps, which is not on any of the difficulties above, making the spread just as bad there as well. This is how I would fix this issue: Lower SV and DS on BASIC, them I would make a difficulty between BASIC and ADVANCED, and another between ADVANCED and EXTREME, Hyper for instance. this is a bit of an iffy area for me. i do agree that i will probably need to make a difficulty that's easier than BASIC. i disagree with the spread between BASIC and ADVANCED, and ADVANCED and EXTREME being too big, though. i fine tuned each difficulty so that the spread in between them would be reasonable. sure, it would be a good thing to make more difficulties to fill the gaps, but i really don't think it's necessary at all for this map. unless more people mention the spread issue, specifically BNs or QATs, i won't be adding more difficulties. perhaps i will end up doing some more fine tuning, though.
Desable Widescreen Support in every difficulty. why does this matter?
Stack leniency is too low and not recommended to use in almost any case. this is my style, so no
[BASIC]

I will not talk about the SV and DS since I stated these issues in General, so here comes what I found:
All the settings are way too much for a BASIC difficulty. CS, HP and OD 4? It's way too much! I'd recommend lower all of them to 2 instead. CS can be between 2 and 3. I reckon AR can be decreased a little as well. 4.5 maybe. it's fine. this BASIC functions as a normal difficulty. the AR matches the slider velocity, and changing the CS would be a bit odd since this map was designed for CS 4.
00:02:010 - How come the song's intro is densier than the kiai? The kiai should be the most dense part of the song, which more complex rhythms, but it just seens like it's the opposite here. We have a bunch of 1/1 rhythms through the song's intro and 2/1 (or higher) after, which is pretty awkward when it comes to me. This also helps to make it innapropriated for being the easiest difficulty. refer to my answer on Cygnus's mod about this
00:35:169 (4) - Double reverses are not recommended at this kind of difficulty, they can be very tricky and missleading. Beginners are not into that, they are mostly likely not to know how to deal with them, since it's not common to have them in difficulties below 3 stars. The high BPM makes it even harder to read with accuracy. ok, i fixed this
00:55:063 (1,2) - Small Comment: I reckon these sliders deserves some polishing. They just look uneaty. check my reply to Cygnus's mod
00:56:326 (2,1) - This is a very confusing overlap for beginners. It may affect the readability of the pattern, since the slider is only 1/2. i'm certain there's enough time between the first slider fading out and the next slider for it to be perfectly readable

This difficulty is not bad, it just can't be the easiest from the mapset, it's quite dense at the beginning (while not at the kiai), and it has some hard-to-read gaps, where one slider ends in the offbeat, and the next slider just starts on the next downbeat, this is very hard for beginners, not recommended for the easiest difficulties. I know sometimes it's unnavoiadable, but it's always good to try something else. Examples: 01:36:747 (1,2) - 01:05:168 (1,2) - etc.like i said, i'll probably be making and easier difficulty
[ADVANCED]

Very clean difficulty, nothing wrong with it, despiting that I couldn't get why the 0.3 decimals on the HP.
[EXTREME]

While there are very hard-to-read patterns like this one 00:09:273 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - (the 1/3 gap plus all the 1/4 following), i'm not quite sure how this is hard to read. these are all sliders specifically so that they are easier to notice and more lenient to hit. there are some spots where it's just so easy to play, that it feels just awkward. 00:19:536 (1,2,3,4) - Like here. i did this intentionally as a sort of anti-flow to map to the "whoosh" sounds in the song. check the Another difficulty; it does something very similar. The song is getting heavier, stronger, and the stacking pattern you used just don't help at all to feel the song. I would recommend you to nerf a bit this song. I can play quite okay 4.8 star difficulties, but this one is just so hard... It doesn't look like 4.8 due to the lack of readability of some patterns. Examples: 00:10:852 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 00:20:957 (1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - the first pattern is something that's very common in difficulties of this level. the second pattern is deceptively easy; it is nowhere near as hard as it looks.and the one I mentioned eariler. You don't need to map all the noisy sound of the background, you may leave this to the extra, and, since this is the only insane to even the spread between a 3.5 stars hard and a 5.5 stars extra, we could have a balance of following just the most audible sound, and the 1/4 sound of the background. Use the more complex rhythm on the kiai instead. Example of a simpler rhythm: 00:14:641 (1,2,3) - .
00:23:168 (1,3) - I reckon those lack a bit of emphasis, the song quite ask for a jump here and there. i prefer the way i did it now; with kind of a "bouncing" effect with the two sliders going up to match the beat.
00:25:852 (2,3) - This is why you shouldn't have such low stack leniency, it's too hard to read stacked 1/4 or 1/2 rhythms. that's what approach circles are for. i could make the AR like 0.2 or 0.3 higher, but i really don't see it as necessary.

The rhythm here is pretty good, you managed to catch every single detail of it. However, this resulted in a very difficult Insane, sometimes it's just impossible to read (if you consider a person who has no problems to play 4.8 stars insanes). I'd recommend you to ask people for a testplay on this difficulty, people who are insane players, not extra players. I reckon you should give more emphasis to the beats, some of them are really strong and they should be enhanced by some sort of jump, but, whem we don't have 1/4 complex rhythm here, we have constant distance snapping, which makes it a bit contradictory...

i designed this map to be for people around my skill level or lower and i have absolutely no problems playing it. perhaps i'm not having problems because i'm the one who mapped it, but nothing in this difficulty strikes me as too hard. in fact, while mapping this, i even had to tone it down significantly because i found that some patterns were too difficulty for a difficulty of this caliber.
[EX]

I wouldn't recommend the 1/1 sliders usage in the song's intro, since the EXTREME difficulty, which is supposed to be easier, is much harder here actually, with a complex mix of 1/4 and 1/2 rhythm, and here we have mostly just 1/1, in a difficulty almost 1 star higher.

Nice difficulty there, nothing to point out as an issue.
That's it!

Good Luck.

thanks for modding

hi-mei

784 posts

Joined June 2014

hi-mei 2016-11-05T00:50:19+00:00

~
extreme:
00:57:909 (9) - i guess it should be like this http://puu.sh/s6NQU/eed7622060.jpg
00:16:378 (1,2,3,4,5) - lmao what happened with this curve
00:15:904 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:17:168 (1,2) - how is that readable, dude please we have one chaoslitz already ;w;
00:46:536 (3,4,5) - how is this correlates with 00:46:852 (6,7,8) - in terms of shape?
01:19:378 - > 01:22:852 - i dont like the way you mapped this part, it could be something more spaced with lower sv.
01:27:904 (1) - this spinner seemed way too weird for me
01:47:641 (5) - what up with this note
01:41:247 -
01:41:404 -
01:42:194 -
01:46:773 -
01:48:825 -
01:48:983 -
01:49:141 -
01:49:299 -
01:49:457 -
01:49:536 -
01:49:615 - unmapped sounds
01:46:852 (1) - ^ i dont know why you skipped so many sounds under slider.

the structure is decent, but the way you time your objects is weird

gl

iHatePeople

142 posts

Joined April 2015

iHatePeople 2016-11-05T02:38:45+00:00

Hi M4M if you accept~ but I made your mod and i will not wait to post this >< (I'm a potato)

[BASIC]

00:19:694 (1) - Move to 264,312
00:27:273 (1) - Flow path? 120,321

SPOILER

00:29:168 (2) - Move to 244,220

SPOILER

00:29:799 (1) - Better shape

SPOILER

00:32:325 (1) - More open to blanket with 00:31:694 (2)
01:00:115 (1) - Move to 400,332
01:38:010 (2) - Move to 32,220 (this is the cause AiMod report distance)
01:41:799 (1) - The middle white move to: 116,56. The flow path is better
01:50:641 (2) - Move to 372,291

[MEDIUM]

00:24:116 (3) - Move to 187,208
00:24:747 (1) - Move to 32,208
00:25:695 (2) - Move to 229,344
00:26:642 (3) - Move to 187,57
00:28:221 (2) - Fix Blanket
00:44:484 (4) - Move to 268,284
00:47:011 (4) - Move to 472,276
01:14:642 (3) - Red point: 128,72
01:51:274 (3) - Fix Blanket

[ADVANCED]

00:34:220 (1) - Fix Blanket
00:35:641 (4) - Move to 140,142
01:01:062 (3) - Fix Blanket
01:36:036 (5) - delete
01:43:378 (2) - too difficulty for hard
00:47:799 (2) - delete (optional) - This circle alone is weird in this diff, good will be if 00:47:957 (3) stack with this putting 00:47:799 (2,3) in same position, but i preferer delete this.
01:43:378 (2) - i think you should modify this, circle or something, this slide 1/4 is more readeable in insane

_________
The others Diffs i will mod later.
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Aeril

Beatmap Nominator

666 posts

Joined May 2014

Aeril 2016-11-05T03:34:06+00:00

[Another]

Holy fuck this is absurdly difficult to read... nice.
00:08:325 (1,2) - Why does 2 get the most emphasis if the loudest notes are on 1 and 3?
00:36:747 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Reason for the W pattern? The notes continue up in pitch so I don't see why there is a dip in 6.
00:52:378 (3) - Isn't there the most emphasis on this note? So why is there so little spacing?
00:56:799 (4) - Quite a big beat here, is it really okay to just stack the note?

[EX]

Not much to say other than it plays extremely well and is fun as well as looks really cool.

[EXTREME]

Really nicely mapped, I like how so far the maps are based on reading.
00:09:378 (2) - Shouldn't this be NC'd because it's 1/3?
00:09:904 (3) - No emphasis on this note even though its a big beat?
00:31:536 (6,1) - This as well, this has the least amount of emphasis while 00:30:589 (4,1) has way more even though the first is much louder.
01:20:220 (2,2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't these all be NC's?

[ADVANCED]

Into the realm of shakiness in my mapping ability, I think it's pretty good though.
00:11:799 (5,1) - This is the only 1/4 repeat slider that is stacked. Why is that?
01:01:062 (3) - I'm going to be that guy and say... blanket.
01:22:536 (6) - Maybe NC because it follows a completely different instrument?

[MEDIUM]

A lot of the slider patterns are very boring and could use a bit of creativity in my opinion.
00:12:747 (2,3) - The repeats on the sliders in this section point towards flow going backwards yet they go back forward. I feel like for newer players having the slider point towards the next note to improve flow would be better.
00:32:325 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This section could look and player much more fun if it wasn't just straights.
00:42:432 (1) - This entire section as well up to 00:52:537 (1)
00:52:537 (1) - I think it would be nicer if all the parts of the slider were the same length.
01:51:905 (1,2) - Maybe change these to hit circles as they are the last notes in the song and should get the most emphasis.

[BASIC]

It's okay I guess.
00:02:010 (1) - Maybe end all of these sliders on 00:02:799 to create some rhythmical difference between 00:02:010 (1,2)
00:16:852 - Maybe put a 1/1 slider here and remove the hit circle at 00:17:168 (1)
00:22:220 (1) - I find it odd you end all of these sliders on a drum beat and note a emphasized note like 00:23:641 or 00:23:168
00:32:325 (1) - Please end this slider on 00:33:747
01:12:747 (1) - Why do all these notes start in one phrase and end on the beginning of another?

For the most part, I really quite like this mapset. Good luck on getting this ranked!

Affirmation

2,543 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2016-11-05T05:46:38+00:00

Q
Music don't match with me, I'll mod only one diff.

[EX]
00:04:220 (3,1) - why anti jump
00:07:378 (1) - unnecessary NC
00:08:878 - 00:08:957 - add beats
00:10:852 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - make consistency Ds when you make streams, It looks weird
00:16:378 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:20:957 (1,2,3,4) - 1/6 slider.
00:52:062 (1) - delete NC
00:57:589 (1,2,3) - why this is jump? don't make, could be HArd to read.
01:17:878 (1,1) - two spinners? why you made them? You ignored too many rhythm because of these spinners.
01:33:036 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - delete NC
01:36:115 (1,1,1,1) - ^
01:39:273 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - players can't read it?

Irreversible

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4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-11-05T21:17:09+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Q
Music don't match with me, I'll mod only one diff.

[EX]
00:04:220 (3,1) - why anti jump If you see, the 1/1 all follow a constant sound. It has a stop here, hence the antijump.
00:07:378 (1) - unnecessary NC Patterning
00:08:878 - 00:08:957 - add beats Following another sound here..
00:10:852 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - make consistency Ds when you make streams, It looks weird Hmm.. but it has a progression in it, because the song progresses.
00:16:378 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:20:957 (1,2,3,4) - 1/6 slider. ?? Why
00:52:062 (1) - delete NC adjusted
00:57:589 (1,2,3) - why this is jump? don't make, could be HArd to read. Everything is 1/4, so this is fine.
01:17:878 (1,1) - two spinners? why you made them? You ignored too many rhythm because of these spinners. I might adjust that, not sure yet
01:33:036 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - delete NC no
01:36:115 (1,1,1,1) - ^no
01:39:273 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - players can't read it? I got testplays on that! They did well

Thank you for this check

Also thanks to the rest! Will post an update a bit later.

;More creativitiyy

osu file format v14

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Title:encounter
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Artist:Nekomata Master+
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master+
Creator:Low
Version:EX
Source:jubeat saucer fulfill
Tags:bemani konami plus naoyuki sato 佐藤直之 音源 examination sing irreversible
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247,86,105984,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Low 2016-11-06T01:56:59+00:00

-himei wrote:
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extreme:
00:57:909 (9) - i guess it should be like this http://puu.sh/s6NQU/eed7622060.jpg why
00:16:378 (1,2,3,4,5) - lmao what happened with this curve what?
00:15:904 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:17:168 (1,2) - how is that readable, dude please we have one chaoslitz already ;w; easily
00:46:536 (3,4,5) - how is this correlates with 00:46:852 (6,7,8) - in terms of shape? they're both curves
01:19:378 - > 01:22:852 - i dont like the way you mapped this part, it could be something more spaced with lower sv. it's fine
01:27:904 (1) - this spinner seemed way too weird for me it matches the song to me.
01:47:641 (5) - what up with this note it follows the song
01:41:247 -
01:41:404 -
01:42:194 -
01:46:773 -
01:48:825 -
01:48:983 -
01:49:141 -
01:49:299 -
01:49:457 -
01:49:536 -
01:49:615 - unmapped sounds i did these on purpose for rhythmic variation.
01:46:852 (1) - ^ i dont know why you skipped so many sounds under slider. because you don't have to map to every sound

the structure is decent, but the way you time your objects is weird

gl

iHatePeople wrote:
Hi M4M if you accept~ but I made your mod and i will not wait to post this >< (I'm a potato) i didn't accept your m4m... sorry. thank you for modding, though

[BASIC]

00:19:694 (1) - Move to 264,312 no, it's a symmetrical pattern as it is now
00:27:273 (1) - Flow path? 120,321 ^
SPOILER
00:29:168 (2) - Move to 244,220
SPOILER
00:29:799 (1) - Better shape ok
SPOILER
00:32:325 (1) - More open to blanket with 00:31:694 (2)
01:00:115 (1) - Move to 400,332
01:38:010 (2) - Move to 32,220 (this is the cause AiMod report distance)
01:41:799 (1) - The middle white move to: 116,56. The flow path is better
01:50:641 (2) - Move to 372,291

[MEDIUM]

00:24:116 (3) - Move to 187,208
00:24:747 (1) - Move to 32,208
00:25:695 (2) - Move to 229,344
00:26:642 (3) - Move to 187,57
00:28:221 (2) - Fix Blanket not supposed to be a blanket
00:44:484 (4) - Move to 268,284
00:47:011 (4) - Move to 472,276
01:14:642 (3) - Red point: 128,72
01:51:274 (3) - Fix Blanket ok

[ADVANCED]

00:34:220 (1) - Fix Blanket
00:35:641 (4) - Move to 140,142
01:01:062 (3) - Fix Blanket
01:36:036 (5) - delete
01:43:378 (2) - too difficulty for hard
00:47:799 (2) - delete (optional) - This circle alone is weird in this diff, good will be if 00:47:957 (3) stack with this putting 00:47:799 (2,3) in same position, but i preferer delete this.
01:43:378 (2) - i think you should modify this, circle or something, this slide 1/4 is more readeable in insane these are all fine.

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The others Diffs i will mod later.
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i couldn't read most of this mod because 80% of the suggestions were insignificant one grid changes. for the future, please don't mod like this. it's not helpful to the mapper unless they are specifically trying to map in a super precise and tidy way (which i am not).

Aeril wrote:
[Another]
Holy fuck this is absurdly difficult to read... nice. QAQ
00:08:325 (1,2) - Why does 2 get the most emphasis if the loudest notes are on 1 and 3? because it's an interesting tricky rhythm
00:36:747 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Reason for the W pattern? The notes continue up in pitch so I don't see why there is a dip in 6. it looks cool. didn't want to map to pitch here
00:52:378 (3) - Isn't there the most emphasis on this note? So why is there so little spacing? looks cool
00:56:799 (4) - Quite a big beat here, is it really okay to just stack the note? why wouldn't it be
[EX]
Not much to say other than it plays extremely well and is fun as well as looks really cool.
[EXTREME]
Really nicely mapped, I like how so far the maps are based on reading. thank you
00:09:378 (2) - Shouldn't this be NC'd because it's 1/3? decided not to put it here because it's easy to just hit without the NC.
00:09:904 (3) - No emphasis on this note even though its a big beat? nope
00:31:536 (6,1) - This as well, this has the least amount of emphasis while 00:30:589 (4,1) has way more even though the first is much louder. on the contrary, actually. i believe it has a lot of emphasis since the pattern i use makes the player stop at the stack, and then continue quickly. this puts emphasis on it
01:20:220 (2,2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't these all be NC's? technically, yeah, but i didn't put them because i think the player has the idea by now, and the NC spam is redundant. if more people mention this, i'll add the NCs. don't think i'll need to, though
[ADVANCED]
Into the realm of shakiness in my mapping ability, I think it's pretty good though.
00:11:799 (5,1) - This is the only 1/4 repeat slider that is stacked. Why is that? fixed it (kind of?)
01:01:062 (3) - I'm going to be that guy and say... blanket. delet this
01:22:536 (6) - Maybe NC because it follows a completely different instrument? i'll think about this one
[MEDIUM]
A lot of the slider patterns are very boring and could use a bit of creativity in my opinion. really? i think they're actually pretty creative
00:12:747 (2,3) - The repeats on the sliders in this section point towards flow going backwards yet they go back forward. I feel like for newer players having the slider point towards the next note to improve flow would be better. nah, because nobody plays short repeat sliders by actually following them all the way through. they just hold their cursor over the start of it, even newer players because it's just common sense
00:32:325 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This section could look and player much more fun if it wasn't just straights. nope. it's really cool and follows a cool symmetrical pattern
00:42:432 (1) - This entire section as well up to 00:52:537 (1) what?
00:52:537 (1) - I think it would be nicer if all the parts of the slider were the same length.
there's beauty in asymmetry
01:51:905 (1,2) - Maybe change these to hit circles as they are the last notes in the song and should get the most emphasis. them being sliders follows the structure the map has been keeping thus far
[BASIC]
It's okay I guess. same
00:02:010 (1) - Maybe end all of these sliders on 00:02:799 to create some rhythmical difference between 00:02:010 (1,2) nope. rhythmic simplicity and consistency is key in an easy diff
00:16:852 - Maybe put a 1/1 slider here and remove the hit circle at 00:17:168 (1) this doesn't make much sense to me
00:22:220 (1) - I find it odd you end all of these sliders on a drum beat and note a emphasized note like 00:23:641 or 00:23:168 simplicity is key in easy diff
00:32:325 (1) - Please end this slider on 00:33:747 ^
01:12:747 (1) - Why do all these notes start in one phrase and end on the beginning of another? hmm... i did this because it would be a simple rhythm variation to go along with the variation in the song, but i might change this.
For the most part, I really quite like this mapset. Good luck on getting this ranked!

thanks for modding

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Logic Agent wrote:

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