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Miyuki Hashimoto - Kokoro ni Hibiku Koi Hotaru

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KaedekaShizuru
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Joined January 2013
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KaedekaShizuru
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年9月13日 星期二 at 20:33:42

Artist: Miyuki Hashimoto
Title: Kokoro ni Hibiku Koi Hotaru
Source: アマツツミ
Tags: Amatsutsumi purple software eroge galgame opening visual novel Kencho DreaM117er m1223961117 OblivioN IamKwaN
BPM: 122
Filesize: 25283kb
Play Time: 01:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. 117's Hard (2.74 stars, 237 notes)
  2. Hotaru (3.76 stars, 342 notes)
  3. Kencho's Insane (3.54 stars, 331 notes)
  4. KwaN's Easy (1.17 stars, 99 notes)
  5. OblivioN's Normal (1.87 stars, 152 notes)
Download: Miyuki Hashimoto - Kokoro ni Hibiku Koi Hotaru
Download: Miyuki Hashimoto - Kokoro ni Hibiku Koi Hotaru (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#12
どうして罪があるのだろう？
　　　　どうして罰があるのだろう？

This map get a Achievement: KwaN's 100th Ranked/GD map.

Timing by Narcissu.
Tsumi Hotaru as Extra by me.
Insane by Kencho.
Hard by DreaM117er.
Normal by OblivioN.
Easy by IamKwaN.
Video ＆ Mp3 by Shad0w1and.

こころに響く恋ほたる
歌：橋本みゆき
作・編曲：宝野聡史
作詞：石川泰

光を求めて　たどり着く先に　今も
陽炎の様に　揺れる
可能性求め　数多繰り返し
だけど　信じているから　ずっとこの先も

それは　蛍のように
儚くても　切なくても
輝き続けたい

好きだけど　まだ　言えないの
ワガママな　恋心
目の前の　運目の螺旋越えて
それでも　すぐ　飛び込んで　抱きしめて
時の　数だけ　いつまでも
Last edited by KaedekaShizuru , edited 21 times in total.
Kinomi
1,221 posts
Joined August 2012
Kinomi
IRC MOD
SPOILER
2016-07-17 20:00 Tsukuyomi: 间距有问题
2016-07-17 20:00 KaedekaShizuru: 好抖
2016-07-17 20:01 KaedekaShizuru: 间距在渐变
2016-07-17 20:03 Tsukuyomi: 不是渐变……
2016-07-17 20:03 Tsukuyomi: 是1/4和1/2区分度不够
2016-07-17 20:03 KaedekaShizuru: 原来是说这个啊
2016-07-17 20:08 KaedekaShizuru: 感觉有点懵
2016-07-17 20:08 KaedekaShizuru: 我觉得我挺注意这个的
2016-07-17 20:14 Tsukuyomi: 01:04:137 (3,4,5) - 
2016-07-17 20:14 Tsukuyomi: 01:03:645 (2,3) - 
2016-07-17 20:14 Tsukuyomi: 混起来了啊
2016-07-17 20:15 KaedekaShizuru: 啊？这个算啊
2016-07-17 20:15 Tsukuyomi: 前面1/4这么大
2016-07-17 20:15 Tsukuyomi: 后面1/2这么小
2016-07-17 20:15 Tsukuyomi: 不是错读成1/4了吗
2016-07-17 20:16 KaedekaShizuru: 噢噢噢噢看懂了
2016-07-17 20:16 KaedekaShizuru: 爱你
2016-07-17 20:16 Tsukuyomi: 00:53:809 (3,4,5,6,7) - 
2016-07-17 20:16 Tsukuyomi: 这里
2016-07-17 20:16 Tsukuyomi: 00:54:301 (4,5) - 
2016-07-17 20:17 Tsukuyomi:  00:54:793 (5,6,7) - 
2016-07-17 20:17 Tsukuyomi: 混了
2016-07-17 20:17 KaedekaShizuru: 了解
2016-07-17 20:17 KaedekaShizuru: 帮我凑点SP 说完po一下 谢
2016-07-17 20:18 Tsukuyomi: 01:02:662 (5) - 
2016-07-17 20:18 Tsukuyomi: 这种土我建议1/2放远……
2016-07-17 20:18 Tsukuyomi: x424y224左右
2016-07-17 20:19 Tsukuyomi: 01:12:006 (3,4) - 
2016-07-17 20:19 Tsukuyomi: 这个和前面的混了
2016-07-17 20:19 KaedekaShizuru: 卧槽后面可是1/4啊离那么远大丈夫
2016-07-17 20:20 Tsukuyomi: 再调啊
2016-07-17 20:20 KaedekaShizuru: 我放X312 Y240好了
2016-07-17 20:20 Tsukuyomi: 这个放远了后面肯定要调整下
2016-07-17 20:20 KaedekaShizuru: （懒
2016-07-17 20:20 Tsukuyomi: 01:16:186 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 
2016-07-17 20:20 Tsukuyomi: 看起来很别扭
2016-07-17 20:21 Tsukuyomi: 10
2016-07-17 20:21 Tsukuyomi: 和前面太近了
2016-07-17 20:21 Tsukuyomi: 01:18:399 (3) - 
2016-07-17 20:21 Tsukuyomi: 和前面混了
2016-07-17 20:22 Tsukuyomi: 01:33:645 (2,3,4) - 
2016-07-17 20:22 Tsukuyomi: 这种梗
2016-07-17 20:22 Tsukuyomi: 太难懂
2016-07-17 20:23 Tsukuyomi: 后面的5也近了
2016-07-17 20:23 Tsukuyomi: 2最好做成扭回来的滑条
2016-07-17 20:23 Tsukuyomi: 修正flow
2016-07-17 20:24 KaedekaShizuru: 我是觉得这种逆向flow真的在打的时候并不会真的去走slider tail
2016-07-17 20:25 Tsukuyomi: 不是断尾问题……
2016-07-17 20:25 Tsukuyomi: 不仅是
2016-07-17 20:25 Tsukuyomi: 看不懂主要是
2016-07-17 20:25 Tsukuyomi: 知道间隔是1/4还好
2016-07-17 20:25 Tsukuyomi: 主要是你前面那么多混的地方
2016-07-17 20:25 Tsukuyomi: 打着打着还要猜你这里到底是1/4还是1/2
2016-07-17 20:26 Tsukuyomi: 让人有这种猜……那图就不行了
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: 01:39:424 (2,3,4) - 
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: 教你
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: 这种地方
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: 这个4
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: flow不要顺
2016-07-17 20:28 KaedekaShizuru: 我觉得我这种太照顾stack的风格要不要改改
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: 要逆
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: 4叠在1头上
2016-07-17 20:28 Tsukuyomi: 没觉得哪里遮
2016-07-17 20:29 Tsukuyomi: 都是间距问题
2016-07-17 20:29 KaedekaShizuru: 噫
2016-07-17 20:29 Tsukuyomi: 01:50:858 (1,2) - 
2016-07-17 20:29 Tsukuyomi: 不要摆这种的
2016-07-17 20:29 Tsukuyomi: 01:50:858 (1,2,3) - 
2016-07-17 20:29 Tsukuyomi: 后面1/2跟个note
2016-07-17 20:30 KaedekaShizuru: 隔壁狗币鼓励我摆这种的233
2016-07-17 20:30 Tsukuyomi: 很蛋疼
2016-07-17 20:30 Tsukuyomi: 他智障吗
2016-07-17 20:30 KaedekaShizuru: hhhhh
2016-07-17 20:30 Tsukuyomi: 这种不能在后面1/2摆note
2016-07-17 20:30 Tsukuyomi: 要么紧接着1/4
2016-07-17 20:30 Tsukuyomi: 节奏
2016-07-17 20:30 Tsukuyomi: 要么后面那个拉远
2016-07-17 20:31 Tsukuyomi: 因为别人看到短滑条第一反应后面肯定是1/4撸过去
2016-07-17 20:31 Tsukuyomi: 但是你现在这样混用间距又不区分
2016-07-17 20:31 Tsukuyomi: 就又要猜
2016-07-17 20:32 KaedekaShizuru: 我看看
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
EncoreW
hue

2016-07-17 20:16 T-Mac: 00:20:367 (1,2,3,4,5) - 不过你这个地方是有点那啥
2016-07-17 20:16 T-Mac: 上hd的话是有点问题
2016-07-17 20:16 T-Mac: 没hd的话我觉得问题不大
2016-07-17 20:17 KaedekaShizuru: 这个地方的确摆的不好看
2016-07-17 20:17 T-Mac: 我觉得你需要区分的地方直接nc应该能好一点
2016-07-17 20:17 T-Mac: 00:42:990 (5) - 比如说这里我觉得就可以NC
2016-07-17 20:18 T-Mac: 看得见缩圈的时候只要不是那种j8遮挡
2016-07-17 20:18 T-Mac: 我觉得区分开来应该都是可以的
2016-07-17 20:19 T-Mac: 01:08:563 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 你这里很有问题
2016-07-17 20:19 T-Mac: 着太难了
2016-07-17 20:20 KaedekaShizuru: 进KIAI 故意坑一下
2016-07-17 20:20 KaedekaShizuru: 要不然没意思
2016-07-17 20:20 KaedekaShizuru: （
2016-07-17 20:20 T-Mac: 。
2016-07-17 20:23 T-Mac: 我觉得你因为放了这个会多出来很多1分
2016-07-17 20:23 T-Mac: 话说回来
2016-07-17 20:23 T-Mac: 我觉得1/4和1/2区分度不够是因为没地方给你放了
2016-07-17 20:24 KaedekaShizuru: 一针见血
2016-07-17 20:24 KaedekaShizuru: 厉害
2016-07-17 20:24 KaedekaShizuru: 困扰很久了也找不到好办法
2016-07-17 20:24 T-Mac: 那没办法
2016-07-17 20:24 T-Mac: 图就那么点地方
2016-07-17 20:24 T-Mac: 你不可能放到外面去
2016-07-17 20:25 T-Mac: 00:40:899 (5,6) - 我觉得你碰到那种1/4可以把这种梗多放
2016-07-17 20:25 T-Mac: 不用两个叠起来的那种
2016-07-17 20:25 KaedekaShizuru: 了解
2016-07-17 20:25 KaedekaShizuru: 不是很会用 摆出来觉得很丑
2016-07-17 20:25 KaedekaShizuru: 偶尔感觉还行
2016-07-17 20:25 T-Mac: 抄点别人的
2016-07-17 20:26 KaedekaShizuru: 这图想抄烤老板的风格结果失败了
2016-07-17 20:26 T-Mac: 每个人都抄一点 就看不出你是抄谁的了
2016-07-17 20:26 T-Mac: 那就抄点hw的
2016-07-17 20:26 KaedekaShizuru: 那个完全学不来233
2016-07-17 20:26 T-Mac: 在抄点0108的
2016-07-17 20:26 T-Mac: 再抄点其他做j8图的
2016-07-17 20:27 T-Mac: 我看看有什么图能抄的
2016-07-17 20:30 T-Mac: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/847341 Reol - Midnight Stroller [Nightfall]]
2016-07-17 20:30 T-Mac: 这个图里面应该有点能拿来抄的
2016-07-17 20:31 T-Mac: 还有爱抚那个牛仔很忙
2016-07-17 20:31 KaedekaShizuru: 好
2016-07-17 20:31 T-Mac: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/469800 3L - Amoritachite Kami To Miyu [Hard]]
2016-07-17 20:32 KaedekaShizuru: 最后po一下帮我凑个sp
2016-07-17 20:32 KaedekaShizuru: 就当摸了
2016-07-17 20:32 KaedekaShizuru: 谢
2016-07-17 20:32 T-Mac: 不慌
2016-07-17 20:32 T-Mac: 我半夜写摸
2016-07-17 20:32 KaedekaShizuru: 隔壁烤老板说的跟你的有几点完全相反啊233
2016-07-17 20:33 T-Mac: 他做习惯j8图了
2016-07-17 20:33 T-Mac: 肯定还是他牛逼
2016-07-17 20:33 T-Mac: 我根本不会做这种图
2016-07-17 20:33 T-Mac: 摸的也少打的也少
2016-07-17 20:34 T-Mac: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/415217 SHK - Identity Part 5 [ExtrA]]
2016-07-17 20:34 T-Mac: 这个应该也能拿来抄一点
2016-07-17 20:34 KaedekaShizuru: 猴
2016-07-17 20:34 T-Mac: http://puu.sh/q4CuJ/9a1f6bdcac.jpg
2016-07-17 20:35 T-Mac: 这个东西应该可以用
2016-07-17 20:36 KaedekaShizuru: 感觉自己只会在NM里摆这种的吧（run
2016-07-17 20:36 T-Mac: 他那个间隔都是1/4啊
2016-07-17 20:36 T-Mac: nm摆什么1/4
2016-07-17 20:37 KaedekaShizuru: 我是说这种摆法
2016-07-17 20:38 T-Mac: 这个的话滑条方向这种都可以变
2016-07-17 20:38 T-Mac: 变了之后就跟原来不一样了
2016-07-17 20:38 T-Mac: 自己都不一定看得出来
2016-07-17 20:39 T-Mac: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/955218 MYTH & ROID - STYX HELIX [Restart]]
2016-07-17 20:39 T-Mac: 考老板这个图可以往死里抄
2016-07-17 20:40 T-Mac: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/515453 petit milady - Koi wa Milk Tea [buhei's Insane]]
2016-07-17 20:41 T-Mac: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/800385 petit milady - Koi wa Milk Tea [Amai]]
2016-07-17 20:41 T-Mac: 其实我觉得你有些1/2
2016-07-17 20:41 KaedekaShizuru: 烤老板那个RE0打得我有点懵
2016-07-17 20:41 T-Mac: 没什么必要拉开摆
2016-07-17 20:41 T-Mac: 你也可以把1/2和1/1这样的放在原地
2016-07-17 20:41 T-Mac: 这样就好区分了
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
音效過陣子再下 Done
Kencho's Insane
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Title:Kokoro ni Hibiku Koi Hotaru
TitleUnicode:心に響く恋ほたる
Artist:Hashimoto Miyuki
ArtistUnicode:橋本みゆき
Creator:KaedekaShizuru
Version:Kencho's Insane
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Tags:Amatsutsumi purple software eroge galgame
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Hollow Wings
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Tsumi

  1. 00:20:750 (2,3) - 在00:21:365 (4,5) - 有相似ds却不同节奏，这里又没有特别需要下ds梗的音而且也没啥提示，所以还是改一下。00:42:513 (4,5) - 有类似的问题，这种地方就应该让ds变得更大，或者缩小1/4跳的ds；其余地方同理。
  2. 00:27:267 (3,1) - 这里只是个建议：在downbeat间出现大段停顿的时候，柑橘用stack或者小ds的ds梗变化会比较有感觉一点。
  3. 01:08:947 (4,1) - 好像有点大了。。。
  4. 怎么说呢，图本身除了ds我颇有微词以外没啥问题，然而其实物件之间的“联系”还没有那么的紧密，也就是说还没有很在意排版方面的“organization”这种概念。。。建议看看排版流的那些人的图，近期的比如yoru啊wmw啊或者超市之类的，也可以看看反震的，试试看规则排版可以让你版面看上去更加整齐一点，也有助于你ds发挥自由度。。。纯flow的摆法也是需要一定排版来支撑的。(小圈更加需要版面来支持，否则打起来和看起来都不太妙

Kencho's Insane

  1. 01:22:595 (6) - 我建议尽量避免这种稍微叠在01:21:365 (1) - 头上的做法。。。
  2. 这图我觉得做的还是可以。。。然而总感觉少了些啥，虽然局部的排版确实能看得出来有些想法，但其实吧规则排版什么的就渗透在一些很平常的习惯里，00:54:316 (2,3,4,5,6) - 确实你做了五边形，然而00:47:923 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这边能做个“五边形”你能理解么？
    挺好了已经，能再放开点就好了，不要把物件都挤在一块。。。（看117

117's Hard

  1. 01:13:005 (5) - 出界。
  2. 正面教材。

OblivioN's Normal

  1. 00:27:267 (4,1) - 低难度就尽量避免逆向flow，这里滑条1可以顺时针绕2转过去。
  2. 00:40:054 (2) - 可以nc一下。
  3. 01:09:562 (4) - 从这里开始nc的位置最好都对准downbeat来着，现在这样总感觉很奇怪。
  4. 01:46:939 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏复杂了。。。最好避免。
  5. 01:53:250 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - 低难度最好还是用slider来处理变bgm，slider可以拖到timing线结尾。
  6. 做的还行。。。吧？低难度还挺多限制的最好再熟悉一下。
这个世界上到底有多少gal。。。

good luck
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Kencho
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Hollow Wings wrote:

Kencho's Insane

  1. 01:22:595 (6) - 我建议尽量避免这种稍微叠在01:21:365 (1) - 头上的做法。。。 稍微改了下位置
  2. 这图我觉得做的还是可以。。。然而总感觉少了些啥，虽然局部的排版确实能看得出来有些想法，但其实吧规则排版什么的就渗透在一些很平常的习惯里，00:54:316 (2,3,4,5,6) - 确实你做了五边形，然而00:47:923 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这边能做个“五边形”你能理解么？
    其實這個我沒有刻意想做成五邊形的，我的圖是那種有時候用很正規的形狀，有時候是以別的物件優先，注重每一個物件固有的排列，比如說00:48:414 (2) - 是3/4後面的圓圈，這種我在默認SV+綠線1.0xSV的時候全程固定的0.9x的，然後00:48:660 (3,4,5,6) - 則是利用blanket對稱於00:47:923 (1) - ，而00:49:398 (7) - 則是00:48:906 (5,6) - 旋轉144度之後得出的位置，最後的00:49:644 (1) - 則是疊在00:47:923 (1) - 上以減少overlap，看起來的確有點混亂，但事實上還是有套路的，如果要刻意做成五邊形我也可以弄出來，但這個位置本來就沒想做五邊形的，你也可以看到00:46:447 (2,3,4,5,6) - 和00:54:316 (2,3,4,5,6) - 是在兩節裡面同樣節奏的地方，我就同時用了五邊形的梗。
    挺好了已经，能再放开点就好了，不要把物件都挤在一块。。。（看117 這個我會繼續改善的（主要是經常受制于打圖的感覺，放太開不好打嘛
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_Yiiiii
464 posts
Joined February 2015
_Yiiiii
M4M

[OblivioN's Normal]
01:09:562 (4) - NC
另外还有两处DS问题

[117's Hard]
00:33:169 (3) - Ctrl+H，不破坏绕圈的感觉。
01:13:496 (1,2) - 改成横着的吧，↑
01:33:906 (2) - Ctrl+G 舒服。


[Kencho's Insane]
00:22:349 (1,2,3) - 跳大了，2往右就好了。
01:08:332 (3) - 改成两个圈如何？更带感一些。
01:23:578 (3,4,5) - ↑4往右下点。
这个diff虽说叫insane但是还是hard标，主难度改成cs4去掉大间距连打差不多也就这样了，总之感觉还有些跳大了。

[Tsumi]
00:08:332 (3,1) - 跳的角度不是很爽，在大概110,110或450,200的位置都觉得好一些，而且都能强调这个重音。
00:18:169 (5,1) - 这个初见感觉不太友好，别让4和1叠上会好点，1往左上些。
00:21:365 (4) - NC
00:40:546 (4,5) - 间距太大了，考虑把4改成向左的吧。
01:08:578 (1,2,3,4) - 往左下一点打起来更舒服。
01:22:595 (4,5,6,1) - 这个跳有点突然，改成间距递进的吧。
01:25:791 (2,3) - 柑橘间距太大了些。
01:28:250 (4,5) - ↑
01:38:824 (11,1) - ↑
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho

_Yiiiii wrote:

[Kencho's Insane]
00:22:349 (1,2,3) - 跳大了，2往右就好了。 00:22:349 (1,2,3) - 和01:07:595 (1,2,3) - 還有01:39:070 (1,2,3) - 我都是用同一個梗的，只是換了個角度，為了統一所以這個和下面那條都沒法改了
01:08:332 (3) - 改成两个圈如何？更带感一些。
01:23:578 (3,4,5) - ↑4往右下点。 這個和01:37:595 (4) - 用的同一個梗，不過主要是要加星才這樣放的……
这个diff虽说叫insane但是还是hard标，主难度改成cs4去掉大间距连打差不多也就这样了，总之感觉还有些跳大了。我想主難度難就難在大間距了，而我這個主要是跳，也像你說的一樣還是hard標，因為這個bpm比較低，所以跳大一點沒事的
Thanks for mod
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Yousei
70 posts
Joined October 2013
Yousei
感觉身体被掏空
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Vert
随便水一水

widescreen support是不是应该取消

[Tsumi]
00:12:513 (2) - 不是很符合我的审美
00:55:546 (1) - 改成圈？
00:58:128 - 这有音
01:08:947 (4,1) - 太远了，而且不好读。这要是dt几乎是必断

[kencho]
00:08:578 (1) - 左边放点啊，滑条尾和前面1太近了

[117]
ar7是不是有点高

没了，嘻嘻，gl
MirinH
726 posts
Joined January 2013
MirinH
m4m
I only have one pending map
I'll try to talk short and simple
[Normal]
00:25:054 - the vocal line here are being ignored although the rest of the section you did a pretty solid vocal following, ill suggest follow the vocal line here to, btw the rhythm you are using here doesnt seem to fit the music imo, ill highly recommend using rhythm such as 00:28:988 (2,3,4,5) -
01:09:562 (4) - the nc in the kiai is weird, i suggest starting a nc here and start a new after 2 sections,and so on
[Hard]
00:14:234 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - i suggest you do some whistle sounding here ,in the background there is a strong piano(?) sound, suggest adding whistles followed by
01:24:562 (6) - even though i know that you are trying to control the difficulty by using a 1/2 instead of the accurate rhythm, i still dont think the rhythm here should be ignored, however, short sliders will be a great solution to the problem imo
01:38:087 (5,6) - ^
[kencho]
00:08:578 (1) - its not an accurate rhythm, it should be a reverse 3/4 if you want to follow the piano in the bgm
[tsumi]
00:14:234 - 00:23:332 - I think you and use whistle in every piano(?)(still,dont know if its really piano though) sound in this section of the bgm, although you may think its too loud and a bit dense, but imo, i think it fit this rhythm you mapped perfectly since its dense alredy
01:08:947 (4,1) - wtf dat ds
01:09:562 (1,2) - missing a note here, since youve followed the drum rhythm in 01:11:529 (1,2,3) -
01:51:611 (4,5,6,7) - weird rhythm, ill suggest you follow a clear rhythm such as the keyboard sound in the back

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KaedekaShizuru
625 posts
Joined January 2013
Topic Starter
KaedekaShizuru

Hollow Wings wrote:

m4m

Tsumi

  1. 00:20:750 (2,3) - 在00:21:365 (4,5) - 有相似ds却不同节奏，这里又没有特别需要下ds梗的音而且也没啥提示，所以还是改一下。00:42:513 (4,5) - 有类似的问题，这种地方就应该让ds变得更大，或者缩小1/4跳的ds；其余地方同理。 好
  2. 00:27:267 (3,1) - 这里只是个建议：在downbeat间出现大段停顿的时候，柑橘用stack或者小ds的ds梗变化会比较有感觉一点。 感觉还好吧 我比较喜欢拉开
  3. 01:08:947 (4,1) - 好像有点大了。。。 故意的 先试试改一下前后相互间距
  4. 怎么说呢，图本身除了ds我颇有微词以外没啥问题，然而其实物件之间的“联系”还没有那么的紧密，也就是说还没有很在意排版方面的“organization”这种概念。。。建议看看排版流的那些人的图，近期的比如yoru啊wmw啊或者超市之类的，也可以看看反震的，试试看规则排版可以让你版面看上去更加整齐一点，也有助于你ds发挥自由度。。。纯flow的摆法也是需要一定排版来支撑的。(小圈更加需要版面来支持，否则打起来和看起来都不太妙
这个世界上到底有多少gal。。。
HW哇乃知道嘛有rank图的黄油还不到所有黄油发行量的5%啊 所以酷爱来当黄油麻婆

good luck

_Yiiiii wrote:

M4M

[Tsumi]
00:08:332 (3,1) - 跳的角度不是很爽，在大概110,110或450,200的位置都觉得好一些，而且都能强调这个重音。 no thx
00:18:169 (5,1) - 这个初见感觉不太友好，别让4和1叠上会好点，1往左上些。 就是要stack
00:21:365 (4) - NC NC的理由是？
00:40:546 (4,5) - 间距太大了，考虑把4改成向左的吧。
01:08:578 (1,2,3,4) - 往左下一点打起来更舒服。
01:22:595 (4,5,6,1) - 这个跳有点突然，改成间距递进的吧。
01:25:791 (2,3) - 柑橘间距太大了些。
01:28:250 (4,5) - ↑
01:38:824 (11,1) - ↑
骚年 insane并不是乃想象的那么简单哦

Vert wrote:

随便水一水

widescreen support是不是应该取消 所有diff保持一致就行了

[Tsumi]
00:12:513 (2) - 不是很符合我的审美 求教我怎么拉JB滑条啊TAT
00:55:546 (1) - 改成圈？ 压vocalそれ
00:58:128 - 这有音 太微弱了吧几乎听不到
01:08:947 (4,1) - 太远了，而且不好读。这要是dt几乎是必断 很头疼这里怎么摆

没了，嘻嘻，gl

Mackenzie wrote:

m4m
I only have one pending map
I'll try to talk short and simple
[tsumi]
00:14:234 - 00:23:332 - I think you and use whistle in every piano(?)(still,dont know if its really piano though) sound in this section of the bgm, although you may think its too loud and a bit dense, but imo, i think it fit this rhythm you mapped perfectly since its dense alredy
01:08:947 (4,1) - wtf dat ds yeah I just want this :D
01:09:562 (1,2) - missing a note here, since youve followed the drum rhythm in 01:11:529 (1,2,3) - you means here 01:09:931 ? hmm I think here has no drum rhythm
01:51:611 (4,5,6,7) - weird rhythm, ill suggest you follow a clear rhythm such as the keyboard sound in the back but only follow the keyboard sounds too slow, I just want a radually slow. I'll more think about it

什麽，你們問我爲什麽不用中文，問樓主去
thanks for mod~! update with KwaN's Easy

OblivioN's mod reply here:

Hollow Wings wrote:

OblivioN's Normal

  1. 00:27:267 (4,1) - 低难度就尽量避免逆向flow，这里滑条1可以顺时针绕2转过去。 :arrow: 感觉还好吧……个人不太想改
  2. 00:40:054 (2) - 可以nc一下。 :arrow: 猴
  3. 01:09:562 (4) - 从这里开始nc的位置最好都对准downbeat来着，现在这样总感觉很奇怪。:arrow: 猴
  4. 01:46:939 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏复杂了。。。最好避免。 :arrow: 还没想到别的办法
  5. 01:53:250 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - 低难度最好还是用slider来处理变bgm，slider可以拖到timing线结尾。:arrow: 猴
  6. 做的还行。。。吧？低难度还挺多限制的最好再熟悉一下。

good luck

_Yiiiii wrote:

M4M

[OblivioN's Normal]
01:09:562 (4) - NC:arrow: 改了
另外还有两处DS问题:arrow: 我查查

Mackenzie wrote:

m4m
I only have one pending map
I'll try to talk short and simple
[Normal]
00:25:054 - the vocal line here are being ignored although the rest of the section you did a pretty solid vocal following, ill suggest follow the vocal line here to, btw the rhythm you are using here doesnt seem to fit the music imo, ill highly recommend using rhythm such as 00:28:988 (2,3,4,5) -
01:09:562 (4) - the nc in the kiai is weird, i suggest starting a nc here and start a new after 2 sections,and so on
:arrow: NC改了，节奏没改，感觉没什么大碍，看看后面的mod

什麽，你們問我爲什麽不用中文，問樓主去
谢谢摸图
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
Vert

Vert wrote:

[kencho]
00:08:578 (1) - 左边放点啊，滑条尾和前面1太近了 事實上131我想弄成正三角，所以keep

Mackenzie

Mackenzie wrote:

[kencho]
00:08:578 (1) - its not an accurate rhythm, it should be a reverse 3/4 if you want to follow the piano in the bgm Here I want to follow the downbeat, so not 3/4 reverse.

Thanks for mod
DreaM117er
1,594 posts
Joined September 2012
DreaM117er
@_Yiiiii: 沒動任何一條...why??
@Vert: AR給淨流調吧，我無所謂
@Mackenzie: The 1st and 2nd mod fixed. The 3rd mod doesn't fix coz it is 1/8 rhythm on a short period, it doesn't use 1/8 to fit the song in Hard diff

Thanks for mod :)

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sahuang
2,293 posts
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sahuang
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Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
[Tsumi]

00:07:841 (1,2,3,1) - I would arrange this so 3>1 has the largest jump. 1 is definitely the most impactful, but right now it doesn't feel strong because 2>3 is the same spacing.
00:16:447 (1) - Stack is slightly off.
00:16:447 (1,2,3,4,5) - Really not sure what you're mapping to here. You seemed to be following the piano with 00:14:234 (1,2,3) - but you're clearly ignoring notes like 00:16:816 - 00:17:185 - 00:17:554 - xP. However, you map them at 00:17:923 (4,5) - so to me, this feels like a confused rhythm that isn't sure what it's following lol.
00:18:414 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I would say the same here.
00:20:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmm, This is pretty good though!
00:22:349 (1,2) - I would space this even further out, or do NC spam here to show that this is a 3/4 jump. NC spam is helpful too (if you want to keep current spacing/placement) cuz it removes the follow point and forces players to be more aware of their rhythm.
00:43:865 - This sounds like a better place for a triplet, instead of 00:44:111 (2) - .
01:07:103 (1,1) - Make this closer. The repeats make this jump really unfair and easy to sliderbreak on xP.
01:41:037 (4) - NC please, for SV change,

[Kencho]

00:35:873 (4,1) - I don't think this jump is that warranted. I think you can continue with regular spacing. It's even bigger than 00:39:808 (4,1) .
00:42:759 (3,4,5,6) - These jumps also feel really big compared to the other jumps you use in this section. I would tone them down a bit so they don't stand out as much.
01:39:808 (3) - I think for emphasis, you can make these both circles. Would be more interesting imo, and it would be different from 00:23:087 (3) - since 00:23:087 (3) - 's slider end is a lot softer compared to here where theres a really audible drum.

[117's Hard]

00:14:480 (1,2,3,4) - I wonder if you can arrange the spacing to make 2>3 larger to match the pitch of the song?
00:21:857 (4,5,1,2,3,1) - This is pretty smart.
00:23:455 (1) - But I think this spinner is too sudden. The music is really calm here, but you're basically forcing the player to spin relaly fast and react really quickly here in order to even get a 300. I think it's better to do a break, or a slow slider since it'd match the tone of the song better.

[Normal]

00:28:250 (1,2) - - Could blanket this better.
00:30:218 (4,5) - I don't personally like placements like this. I'd much rather blanket so the spacing is even, but I guess it's your call here.
00:44:480 (2,3) - Blanket better., same goes for 00:45:955 (4,5) - where the blanket is really important to the pattern.
00:49:398 (4) - Stacking kinda ruins the blanket, so enable stacking, and adjust the location of 00:48:906 (3) - to compensate.
00:53:332 (2,3) - Blankets

Basically, fix blankets please! I'm sure you'll get more mods about the later, and that's literally all I'm seeing since rhythm choice and flow look pretty good. Polish up your aesthetics is all I really want to say.

[Kwan's Easy]

00:10:054 (1) - How about adding a repeat for the bass sound at 00:10:546 - ?
01:21:365 (1,2) - Blanket can be better on 2's tail end.
01:42:513 (1) - Same as earlier.
IamKwaN
osu! Alumni
3,905 posts
Joined August 2012
IamKwaN
All fixed, hopefully the blanket is better now. Thanks.
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TitleUnicode:心に響く恋ほたる
Artist:Hashimoto Miyuki
ArtistUnicode:橋本みゆき
Creator:KaedekaShizuru
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DreaM117er
1,594 posts
Joined September 2012
DreaM117er

Monstrata wrote:

[117's Hard]

00:14:480 (1,2,3,4) - I wonder if you can arrange the spacing to make 2>3 larger to match the pitch of the song?
00:21:857 (4,5,1,2,3,1) - This is pretty smart.
00:23:455 (1) - But I think this spinner is too sudden. The music is really calm here, but you're basically forcing the player to spin relaly fast and react really quickly here in order to even get a 300. I think it's better to do a break, or a slow slider since it'd match the tone of the song better.
Thanks Monstrata, all fixed
spinner changed to use slow down slider :)
AR fix to 6.4, if any change AR, call KaedekaShizuru to help me

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TitleUnicode:心に響く恋ほたる
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ArtistUnicode:橋本みゆき
Creator:KaedekaShizuru
Version:117's Hard
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Tags:Amatsutsumi purple software eroge galgame opening visual novel Kencho DreaM117er m1223961117 OblivioN IamKwaN
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