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ELISA - Real Force (TV size)

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Dilectus
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on den 6 september 2016 at 18:10:00

Artist: ELISA
Title: Real Force (TV size)
Source: とある科学の超電磁砲
Tags: リアルフォース toaru kagaku no a certain scientific railgun ed ending rogue adolescence j-pop
BPM: 168
Filesize: 5582kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,37 stars, 77 notes)
  2. Hard (3,32 stars, 249 notes)
  3. Insane (4,28 stars, 337 notes)
  4. Normal (2,27 stars, 176 notes)
Download: ELISA - Real Force (TV size)
Download: ELISA - Real Force (TV size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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ELISA - Real Force - mapped by DavidEd
Umo-
Hi
I didn't find any mistakes but I think Normal shouldn't be listed as hard :P
Cyron
Make the insane diff AR 8.5 for easy PP DT map.
1Computer
An EZ testplay works right? :P

Mod:
SPOILER
[Easy]
  1. 00:06:401 (2) - So, I know this is an Easy and all, but this would work so much better if you it back one red tick.
  2. 00:50:329 (3) - NC.
[Normal]
  1. Can't find anything wrong~
[Hard]
  1. 00:16:044 (1,2) - Blanket.
  2. 00:31:758 (1,2,3,4) - You can make a square here with the sliderend and 2,3,4, then use a side of the square to make 4,5. It does mess up the next combo, but you can just move those up a bit and it'll fit just fine.
  3. 00:34:437 (1,2) - Blanket.
[Insane]
  1. 00:03:187 (2) - It would look nicer if you flip this vertically.
  2. 00:11:401 (4,5,6) - I like to make my 1/3s a new combo each, but up to you.
  3. 00:15:151 (3,4,5,6) - Same with the Hard diff here, you can make a better square if you also account for the sliderend.
  4. 00:20:865 (2,3) - In a slow section, these kicksliders feel out of place. Maybe just one slider could work.
  5. 00:55:329 (6,1) - Stack is off here.
  6. 01:23:008 (1,2,3) - This pattern should have 60 degrees turns to make an actual triangle, it's pretty skewed now.
  7. 01:24:079 (4,5,6) - This would be nicer as a equilateral triangle.

Nice mapset! Well made! :D
Topic Starter
Dilectus

1Computer wrote:

  1. 00:03:187 (2) - It would look nicer if you flip this vertically. fixed
  2. 00:11:401 (4,5,6) - I like to make my 1/3s a new combo each, but up to you. i'll see what more people think of this
  3. 00:15:151 (3,4,5,6) - Same with the Hard diff here, you can make a better square if you also account for the sliderend. its in a diamond shape atm, but i may change anyways
  4. 00:20:865 (2,3) - In a slow section, these kicksliders feel out of place. Maybe just one slider could work. i'll see what people think of this, i dont think its a problem.
  5. 00:55:329 (6,1) - Stack is off here. fixed
  6. 01:23:008 (1,2,3) - This pattern should have 60 degrees turns to make an actual triangle, it's pretty skewed now. fixed
  7. 01:24:079 (4,5,6) - This would be nicer as a equilateral triangle. right now it plays perfectly imo
Thanks for the mod
alacat
hi from #modreqs

  1. MP3 file :
    The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. The bitrate of a beatmap's audio file must be no lower than 128kbps and no higher than 192kbps. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file, contact one of the more audio-savvy BN; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you.

    You have to reduce bitrate!

  2. Title : Real Force (TV size)
    Romanised : Real Force (TV size)

    "(TV size)" is from ost : http://puu.sh/qvbiG/56da49c960.png

    and "リアル・フォース" is way of reading : http://puu.sh/qvbrJ/d90dc155cd.png

  3. Tags : to aru :arrow: Toaru

  4. additional mod
    Hard : 00:27:829 (1) -
    Insane : 01:22:115 (1) -
    You forgot to remove a new combo from here :o
nice map, call me back after getting +12 cp(Current Priority) for bubble.
Topic Starter
Dilectus

alacat wrote:

hi from #modreqs

  1. MP3 file :
    The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. The bitrate of a beatmap's audio file must be no lower than 128kbps and no higher than 192kbps. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file, contact one of the more audio-savvy BN; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you. I already planned on fixing it, but I never got to it I guess. But I fixed it now.

    You have to reduce bitrate!

  2. Title : Real Force (TV size)
    Romanised : Real Force (TV size)

    Gonna use this title and put the japanese text in tags so people with japanese keyboards can search for this map without having to type ''elisa'' or ''toaru kagaku no railgun''

    "(TV size)" is from ost : http://puu.sh/qvbiG/56da49c960.png

    and "リアル・フォース" is way of reading : http://puu.sh/qvbrJ/d90dc155cd.png

  3. Tags : to aru :arrow: Toaru fixed

  4. additional mod
    Hard : 00:27:829 (1) -
    Insane : 01:22:115 (1) -
    You forgot to remove a new combo from here :o whoops ; w ;
nice map, call me back after getting +12 cp(Current Priority) for bubble. Sure. Whats your number? :^)
Thanks for the mod ^^
Hollow Delta
From #modreqs doing M4M

General
SPOILER
00:00:390 (1) - Remove? I don't like it here, but just an opinion. Up to you. Even if you want to keep it, you'd have to add a first spinner in the easy diff as well, as it's not a guest diff.

Insane
SPOILER
00:04:675 (1) - Select this note and all the notes after it. Vertically flip. Fixes some overlaps but still keeps structure. The flow goes to the bottom, goes to the left, then back to the bottom, which doesn't look good. This will make it so it goes to the bottom, to the left, then to the top right.
00:10:389 (1) - Select this note and all the notes after it. Horizontally flip. Same reason as above. Fixes overlaps while keeping structure.
00:13:961 (3,4,5,6,7) - This stream starts at the bottom. Just like this: 00:12:889 (4,5,6) - It doesn't overlap, but I think it would look better if you change the position of the stream to the top of the playfield. It takes advantage of the more space you have, plus looks better.
00:42:889 (5) - Move this slider over to the other other side of 00:42:532 (4) - I just feel you could do something more creative than just an overlap.
Note - I say other side because this could change depending if you did the first 2 mods noted above.
00:45:211 (2,3,4) - This overlaps a similar pattern from before. 00:43:782 (3,4,5) - The left side of the screen hasn't been mapped in a while, so why not continue this flow onto that side?

Hard
SPOILER
00:15:568 (4,5,6) - Fix this pattern so it doesn't flow into an overlap? You don't have to remap the rest of it as long as the distance is correct, which I know can be done.
00:31:818 (1) - Select this note and all other notes after it. Horizontally flip. Fixes overlaps, while keeping structure. Re-snap. If all notes are selected still, re-snapping shouldn't be a problem.

Normal
SPOILER
00:06:461 (1,1) - Overlap. I don't think you intended to do it, just think you could map something more creative. Up to you.

Easy
SPOILER
00:01:818 (1,2,1) - Overlap.
01:18:247 (2) - This slider is indicating the flow will go towards the top of the screen. Just like here at 01:13:247 (1) - Change the direction of the flow so it leads towards the bottom. It will take advantage of the play field space you have.
01:24:854 (1) - This spinner starts way too quickly. Try to make it start on a white tick at least.
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Bubblun wrote:

From #modreqs doing M4M

General
SPOILER
00:00:390 (1) - Remove? I don't like it here, but just an opinion. Up to you. Even if you want to keep it, you'd have to add a first spinner in the easy diff as well, as it's not a guest diff. according to ranking criteria you need 3 ticks after a spinner end for it to be rankable. and theres no space for an earlier spinner. so i hope you understand my reasoning.

Insane
SPOILER
00:04:675 (1) - Select this note and all the notes after it. Vertically flip. Fixes some overlaps but still keeps structure. The flow goes to the bottom, goes to the left, then back to the bottom, which doesn't look good. This will make it so it goes to the bottom, to the left, then to the top right. the flow is good, a switch of direction is a good way of emphasizing a hard beat like this one
00:10:389 (1) - Select this note and all the notes after it. Horizontally flip. Same reason as above. Fixes overlaps while keeping structure. i dont see any issue with this
00:13:961 (3,4,5,6,7) - This stream starts at the bottom. Just like this: 00:12:889 (4,5,6) - It doesn't overlap, but I think it would look better if you change the position of the stream to the top of the playfield. It takes advantage of the more space you have, plus looks better. i love the current flow so i cant change sorry
00:42:889 (5) - Move this slider over to the other other side of 00:42:532 (4) - I just feel you could do something more creative than just an overlap. i cant see the issue in this, the flow is good and emphasizes the high beat thats coming up
Note - I say other side because this could change depending if you did the first 2 mods noted above.
00:45:211 (2,3,4) - This overlaps a similar pattern from before. 00:43:782 (3,4,5) - The left side of the screen hasn't been mapped in a while, so why not continue this flow onto that side? cause theres a hard beat here and the best way to emphasize that is to go the opposite direction of the current flow

Hard
SPOILER
00:15:568 (4,5,6) - Fix this pattern so it doesn't flow into an overlap? You don't have to remap the rest of it as long as the distance is correct, which I know can be done. it's readable, so theres no issue in that.
00:31:818 (1) - Select this note and all other notes after it. Horizontally flip. Fixes overlaps, while keeping structure. Re-snap. If all notes are selected still, re-snapping shouldn't be a problem. what overlaps? it plays good

Normal
SPOILER
00:06:461 (1,1) - Overlap. I don't think you intended to do it, just think you could map something more creative. Up to you. there's no overlap here. and it's symmetrical so i dont understand the issue

Easy
SPOILER
00:01:818 (1,2,1) - Overlap. theres no overlap here
01:18:247 (2) - This slider is indicating the flow will go towards the top of the screen. Just like here at 01:13:247 (1) - Change the direction of the flow so it leads towards the bottom. It will take advantage of the play field space you have. the flow is basically [up,left,down], so i dont understand the issue here either.
01:24:854 (1) - This spinner starts way too quickly. Try to make it start on a white tick at least. the spinner should start where the sound starts, and i dont understand the purpose for having that gap there anyways.
Sorry, the mod wasn't of use for me. No changes made

Thanks for the mod
AshbeII
insane

00:05:568 (2,3,1) - , space these properly, move 3 higher
00:56:461 (2,3,4) - shouldn't 3 be more in the middle of 2 and 4? on that line.. move to the right a bit
00:57:889 (2,3,4,5) - 3 should be in line with 5
01:23:782 (1,2,3,4,1) - why not change it out to something like this -> , I didn't space it out perfectly but giving you an idea,I think it plays better, also 1 doesn't need a new combo
Topic Starter
Dilectus

rakuenslove wrote:

insane

00:05:568 (2,3,1) - , space these properly, move 3 higher spaced out (2) instead
00:56:461 (2,3,4) - shouldn't 3 be more in the middle of 2 and 4? on that line.. move to the right a bit because its a isoscele triangle (tilt your head to the left)
00:57:889 (2,3,4,5) - 3 should be in line with 5 another isoscele triangle because (4) is a higher pitch than the other notes so i thought itd be nice to increace the ds for this note
01:23:782 (1,2,3,4,1) - why not change it out to something like this -> , I didn't space it out perfectly but giving you an idea,I think it plays better, also 1 doesn't need a new combo thanks for the suggestion, but this pattern plays fine by me. and the triangle is a nice lead up for the last note
Thanks for the mod
Douky
Hello ! Little Mod for the insane diff:

00:17:889 (2,3,4) - The two 1/2 after the sliders feel weird , you maybe want to make them the same way you did thoses ? 00:24:318 (5,1,2) - I feel Like it fits better with the voice

00:28:247 (5,6) - Maybe make theses two Parralel ?

00:34:497 (1) - The slider on the white tick doesn't feel good here in my opinion , and I think It's the only one in the map

00:50:389 (1) - I find this slider a bit slow for the transition, but it's a matter of choice here , see if it bother you or not :D

00:52:532 (5,6) - Parrallel too ? Like thoses one ? 01:07:532 (1,2) -

That's all I saw on the map , otherwise it's a very good map , great to play , I hope you'll succeed ! :D
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Douky wrote:

Hello ! Little Mod for the insane diff:

00:17:889 (2,3,4) - The two 1/2 after the sliders feel weird , you maybe want to make them the same way you did thoses ? 00:24:318 (5,1,2) - I feel Like it fits better with the voice i feel like the vocals are the most important to emphasize in this part. and the rhythm catches it perfectly imo

00:28:247 (5,6) - Maybe make theses two Parralel ? yeah, it looks good and doesnt affect flow

00:34:497 (1) - The slider on the white tick doesn't feel good here in my opinion , and I think It's the only one in the map just like i emphasized the vocals on 00:30:389 (1,1) - i wanted to keep it consistent

00:50:389 (1) - I find this slider a bit slow for the transition, but it's a matter of choice here , see if it bother you or not :D i mean. it's a good way to transition into a much more intense part of the song

00:52:532 (5,6) - Parrallel too ? Like thoses one ? 01:07:532 (1,2) - fix, didnt affect flow too
Thank you for the mod!
Lully
modding q
a wild angel class esper appeared!

ez
00:04:675 (1) - this really looks weird.. idk how. maybe blanket it with 00:03:247 (2) - ? would look much better. ><
00:03:247 (2) - this both could have like lightning like shape so it fits even more to the song! [url=00:01:818 (1) -]example[/url]
00:36:639 (3) - 84 252?
01:09:675 (3) - nc? ovo
01:16:818 (1) - blanket w 01:15:389 (3) - pls~

hd
00:12:889 (4) - why this sudden change? a slider like 00:12:532 (3) - and stuff would be nice here too. ovo
00:24:675 (1) - fix symmetry
01:01:104 (4,5) - please same distance as 01:00:747 (2,3) - have

Topic Starter
Dilectus

CookieKivi wrote:

ez
00:04:675 (1) - this really looks weird.. idk how. maybe blanket it with 00:03:247 (2) - ? would look much better. >< it looks fine
00:03:247 (2) - this both could have like lightning like shape so it fits even more to the song! [url=00:01:818 (1) -]example[/url] the current structure is easier and comfortable for beginners to follow
00:36:639 (3) - 84 252?
01:09:675 (3) - nc? ovo fix
01:16:818 (1) - blanket w 01:15:389 (3) - pls~ the purpose wasn't to blanket with previous slider, only to make the flow go right.
hd
00:12:889 (4) - why this sudden change? a slider like 00:12:532 (3) - and stuff would be nice here too. ovo fix
00:24:675 (1) - fix symmetry if it played nice id have symmetry with the last slider
01:01:104 (4,5) - please same distance as 01:00:747 (2,3) - have fix
Thanks for the mod
Net0
Just a small suggestion for two jump pattern in Insane

Ctrol+G 00:58:068 (3,5) - and rework on the position of the 00:58:425 (5) - .
Now this is how it looks
00:57:354 (1,4,5) -

My suggestion is this:

Another jump section that could be improved is this one
00:48:782 (4,1,2,3) -

This is how it looks:



My suggestion is this:

The flow itself work both on your pattern and also in my suggestions, this suggestions are just to make the jumps easier if you'd like so. Also, as you can see there's also a visual impact that could help your map.

Good luck with your map and thanks for showing this song, never heard it but really like it. Also if you want another picture as a BG I suggest this one, since the one you're using it's already been used by a lot of Toaru maps: http://puu.sh/qKQte.jpg . o/
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Net0 wrote:

Just a small suggestion for two jump pattern in Insane

Ctrol+G 00:58:068 (3,5) - and rework on the position of the 00:58:425 (5) - .
Now this is how it looks
00:57:354 (1,4,5) -

My suggestion is this:

Another jump section that could be improved is this one
00:48:782 (4,1,2,3) -

This is how it looks:



My suggestion is this:

The flow itself work both on your pattern and also in my suggestions, this suggestions are just to make the jumps easier if you'd like so. Also, as you can see there's also a visual impact that could help your map.

Good luck with your map and thanks for showing this song, never heard it but really like it. Also if you want another picture as a BG I suggest this one, since the one you're using it's already been used by a lot of Toaru maps: http://puu.sh/qKQte.jpg . o/
Fixed both sections, it really made the map look better and play better. Just like how I want it.

Also changed the last pattern to play and look better.
Imakuri
HiHi !
#MakeModreqsGreatAgain

So here I start the mod, I modded all difficulties.

General
  1. Nothing to say here, video is good, and timing too, great job. Just a little thing, combo colors, just lol. Why didn't you used colors of background ? It's better !
Easy
  1. 00:01:818 : Try to accentuate the shape of this slider. Or change it. I mean, it's strange to play, and the shape is strange too. So you could try to accentuate a bit the shape, it could be better, like this > http://puu.sh/qMvXu/d4ea032a31.jpg
    Compared
    http://puu.sh/qMvZn/4221f010c8.jpg
  2. 00:03:247 : Here too. But i'll not re-explain why ^^^^^^
  3. 00:25:389 : Well, the same. For me the shape of the slider isn't perfect, and you could do the shape better imo, up to you.
  4. 00:34:497 : Try to do this slider a bit like that > http://puu.sh/qMw9E/65e5622b90.jpg
  5. 00:46:104 : Here is exactly the same that I said before, try to change it If you want, up to you, It will be just more aesthetic.
  6. 00:53:247 : Nothing here, it's just strange because I just find that the shape of THIS slider (and not the others) is great. Strange.
  7. 01:03:247 : I think you should reverse the slider to the right or a better flow with the next slider. I played it in Flashlight, and it's kind of strange. > http://puu.sh/qMwlY/94e95f2d65.jpg
  8. 01:07:532 : YES ! YES ! GOOD SLIDER SHAPE ! YES ! sorry, nothing here, just a perfect shape xD
  9. Well rest is pretty good. I really loved this diff, it fits perfectly with the song. Great Job. It's consistent, perfect.
Normal
  1. 00:13:247 : Well, why did you not put a NC here ? You just did at : 00:10:389 so please put NC here !
  2. 00:32:354 : I really don't recommand to stack them, because here's the same combo, and you must respect distance snap in Normal and Easy, so unstack it please~ (up to you, but I don't recommand it)
  3. 00:36:461 : Here's the same ^
  4. 00:39:497 (2) : This blanket isn't perfect with 00:40:389 (1) you should fix it a bit.
  5. 00:42:354 : Same stack story blablabla
  6. 01:09:675 : Here is the same problem of shape than the Easy diff, this slider is not beautiful imo, try to fix the shape.
  7. 01:18:247 : Are you sure about this triangle ? It's really confused. I missed the not here when I played it, maybe that the triangle isn't a good idea, or switch (2) and (3) with each other.
  8. Well rest is good, good diff !
Hard
  1. 00:27:532 : Why didn't you stacked the click circle of the slider, with the reverse of the previous slider, it's better imo, and it makes a better flow >
    http://puu.sh/qMwYk/5ecb2944f5.jpg (After try to fix DS ofc)
  2. 01:24:675 : I think you could put it at x256 y192 it's better.
  3. Rest is pretty pretty good !
Insane
  1. Looks perfectly fine here !
Well that's it, great map, great song, great mapper, great shit !
I wish you the best of luck for ranking !
Imakuri~
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Imakuri wrote:

HiHi !
#MakeModreqsGreatAgain

So here I start the mod, I modded all difficulties.

General
  1. Nothing to say here, video is good, and timing too, great job. Just a little thing, combo colors, just lol. Why didn't you used colors of background ? It's better ! I was gonna fix some combo colors, didnt know which ones to use so i took the ones from Dear my Friend. ty
Easy
  1. 00:01:818 : Try to accentuate the shape of this slider. Or change it. I mean, it's strange to play, and the shape is strange too. So you could try to accentuate a bit the shape, it could be better, like this > http://puu.sh/qMvXu/d4ea032a31.jpg just changed shape
    Compared
    http://puu.sh/qMvZn/4221f010c8.jpg
  2. 00:03:247 : Here too. But i'll not re-explain why ^^^^^^ ^
  3. 00:25:389 : Well, the same. For me the shape of the slider isn't perfect, and you could do the shape better imo, up to you. fixed it up
  4. 00:34:497 : Try to do this slider a bit like that > http://puu.sh/qMw9E/65e5622b90.jpg sure
  5. 00:46:104 : Here is exactly the same that I said before, try to change it If you want, up to you, It will be just more aesthetic. fix
  6. 00:53:247 : Nothing here, it's just strange because I just find that the shape of THIS slider (and not the others) is great. Strange. mean
  7. 01:03:247 : I think you should reverse the slider to the right or a better flow with the next slider. I played it in Flashlight, and it's kind of strange. > http://puu.sh/qMwlY/94e95f2d65.jpg fix
  8. 01:07:532 : YES ! YES ! GOOD SLIDER SHAPE ! YES ! sorry, nothing here, just a perfect shape xD
  9. Well rest is pretty good. I really loved this diff, it fits perfectly with the song. Great Job. It's consistent, perfect.
Normal
  1. 00:13:247 : Well, why did you not put a NC here ? You just did at : 00:10:389 so please put NC here ! just forgot
  2. 00:32:354 : I really don't recommand to stack them, because here's the same combo, and you must respect distance snap in Normal and Easy, so unstack it please~ (up to you, but I don't recommand it) if its the same melody and it doesnt change, i like to stack cause it plays better and it follows the song ofc
  3. 00:36:461 : Here's the same ^ same reason
  4. 00:39:497 (2) : This blanket isn't perfect with 00:40:389 (1) you should fix it a bit.fix
  5. 00:42:354 : Same stack story blablablasame story
  6. 01:09:675 : Here is the same problem of shape than the Easy diff, this slider is not beautiful imo, try to fix the shape. fixed it up?
  7. 01:18:247 : Are you sure about this triangle ? It's really confused. I missed the not here when I played it, maybe that the triangle isn't a good idea, or switch (2) and (3) with each other. remapped this area
  8. Well rest is good, good diff !
Hard
  1. 00:27:532 : Why didn't you stacked the click circle of the slider, with the reverse of the previous slider, it's better imo, and it makes a better flow >
    http://puu.sh/qMwYk/5ecb2944f5.jpg (After try to fix DS ofc) cause if its unstacked, it leaves a bigger impact on the major beat
  2. 01:24:675 : I think you could put it at x256 y192 it's better. fixed
  3. Rest is pretty pretty good !
Insane
  1. Looks perfectly fine here !
Well that's it, great map, great song, great mapper, great shit !
I wish you the best of luck for ranking !
Imakuri~
Appreaciate the mod, Imakuri-chan
alacat
Recheck

  1. Title : Real Force (TV size)

  2. Video offset : Please unify video offset all diffs

  3. Insane :
    00:25:836 (5,7) - I think it seems overmapped. Please remove these.

  4. Hard :
    remove widescreen support

  5. Normal :
    remove widescreen support
    00:04:675 (1,1) - You should consider removing notes after spinners for take recovery times. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3359424
    like this : http://puu.sh/qR9DK/bfb8d3e004.png

  6. Easy :
    remove widescreen support
    00:27:532 (3) - add a new combo from here?
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