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Nakayama Arisa - Heart To Heart <Short Ver.>

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on viernes, 08 de julio de 2016 at 01:04:16 a.m.

Artist: Nakayama Arisa
Title: Heart To Heart <Short Ver.>
Source: ToHeart2
Tags: totoizn opening eroge visual novel sonnyc
BPM: 138
Filesize: 3926kb
Play Time: 01:30
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (2,16 stars, 152 notes)
  2. Hard (2,86 stars, 181 notes)
  3. Light Insane (3,2 stars, 205 notes)
  4. Normal (1,79 stars, 105 notes)
  5. Sonnyc's Insane (3,8 stars, 207 notes)
Download: Nakayama Arisa - Heart To Heart <Short Ver.>
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#2 Zzz

Normal - me
Advanced - me
Hard - me
Light Insane - me
Sonnyc's Insane - Sonnyc



: Karen
: Ascendance
Lince Cosmico_old
Aca esta el mod :p (el mod lo hice desde la insane hasta la easy, por eso en la normal y en la easy ya no repetia mas lo del kiai xD)
Easy

No creo que haga falta un general aca, es lo mismo xD
Objetos:
00:07:252 (1) - el slider creo que quedaria mejor terminarlo aca (y el circulo que le sigue moverlo al tic rojo)
00:35:948 (2,1) - stack
00:58:339 - El spinner deberia terminar aca, aunque como es una diff easy no se si se puede hacer uno tan corto
01:04:861 - el slider terminalo aca
01:11:600 (3,4) - move el slider tail un poco para arriba asi queda mejor el overlap XD algo así
01:15:730 (3,2) - overlap
Normal

General:
• lo mismo
Objetos:
00:32:252 (2,3) - blanket?
00:33:339 (1,2) - blanket?
00:35:730 (2,3) - blanket?
01:01:817 (3,4,5) - arregla el blanket, el final del slider esta mal: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5474799
01:04:209 (3,3) - siento que el primer overlap esta un poco mas afuera xD
01:25:513 (1,2) - overlap
Hard

General:
• el kiai xD
Objetos:
00:00:296 (1) - esta mal snapeado? o solo soy yo? o.o
00:02:687 (3,4) - tal vez solo sea yo, pero creo que este blanket tiene algo mal :r
00:13:122 (3,4,5) - illuminati (?
00:17:035 - a decir verdad, esto "suena" mejor asi: http://puu.sh/pGbBs/8e4b546a81.jpg (el primero 1/8 y el segundo 1/6) pero creo que esto seria mejor hacerlo en la diff Insane
00:24:209 (5,1) - overlap
00:28:122 (1,2) - en este blanket, el inicio del slider creo que va un poco mas para arriba (se nota en el tiempo que te pase)
00:28:991 (3,2) - overlap
00:33:339 (1,2) - en este blanket lo mismo (el mismo tipo de error, el slider movelo a donde haga falta XD)
Insane

General:
• - El kiai terminalo :p
Objetos:
00:25:513 (4,5) - que tal así? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5474717
00:34:209 (4,5) - same
00:59:209 - http://puu.sh/pGbht/6eded6aff6.jpg
esta muy buena la diff xD


Hice lo que pude ;w;
Topic Starter
vick

Lince Cosmico wrote:

Aca esta el mod :p (el mod lo hice desde la insane hasta la easy, por eso en la normal y en la easy ya no repetia mas lo del kiai xD)okayyy Orz
Easy

No creo que haga falta un general aca, es lo mismo xD
Objetos:
00:07:252 (1) - el slider creo que quedaria mejor terminarlo aca (y el circulo que le sigue moverlo al tic rojo) uhh, me gusta como suena ahora, y hacer 2 circulos seguidos en una easy no me gusta
00:35:948 (2,1) - stack pero no se overlapean, no creo que haga falta xd
00:58:339 - El spinner deberia terminar aca, aunque como es una diff easy no se si se puede hacer uno tan corto voy a esperar y escuchar mas sugerencias sobre esto
01:04:861 - el slider terminalo aca hay un clap ahi, no puedo ignorarlo
01:11:600 (3,4) - move el slider tail un poco para arriba asi queda mejor el overlap XD algo así ok
01:15:730 (3,2) - overlap
fixed
Normal

General:
• lo mismo
Objetos:
00:32:252 (2,3) - blanket? no estaba intentando hacer un blanket, no me gusta la idea de mover el slider mas a la izquierda
00:33:339 (1,2) - blanket? ^
00:35:730 (2,3) - blanket? ^
01:01:817 (3,4,5) - arregla el blanket, el final del slider esta mal: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5474799 plsss
01:04:209 (3,3) - siento que el primer overlap esta un poco mas afuera xD ??
01:25:513 (1,2) - overlap
fixed
Hard

General:
• el kiai xD
Objetos:
00:00:296 (1) - esta mal snapeado? o solo soy yo? o.o LOL ooooo mb, fixed
00:02:687 (3,4) - tal vez solo sea yo, pero creo que este blanket tiene algo mal :r no pretendia hacer blanket
00:13:122 (3,4,5) - illuminati (? agree
00:17:035 - a decir verdad, esto "suena" mejor asi: http://puu.sh/pGbBs/8e4b546a81.jpg (el primero 1/8 y el segundo 1/6) pero creo que esto seria mejor hacerlo en la diff Insane ya hable con Oko sobre esto y es 1/6
00:24:209 (5,1) - overlap intended
00:28:122 (1,2) - en este blanket, el inicio del slider creo que va un poco mas para arriba (se nota en el tiempo que te pase) no hace falta que el blanket sea 100% perfecto xd
00:28:991 (3,2) - overlap era intencionado pero voy a esperar a ver si alguien mas se queja
00:33:339 (1,2) - en este blanket lo mismo (el mismo tipo de error, el slider movelo a donde haga falta XD)rip
Insane

General:
• - El kiai terminalo :p
Objetos:
00:25:513 (4,5) - que tal así? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5474717 demasiado spacing hasta el 5 imo Orz
00:34:209 (4,5) - same ^
00:59:209 - http://puu.sh/pGbht/6eded6aff6.jpg no me gusta empezar sliders en ticks rojos nunca, ademas empezar en los ticks blancos en esa seccion le da mas enfasis a los claps
esta muy buena la diff xD Thanks !



Hice lo que pude ;w; Gracias ! :D
Mitkoff
Hello!
m4m!
General

HS too low, mb icreasce to 40-45%?
Overall all diffs looks good for me but so identical. Idk mb it's good for mapset's structure but i prefer to see something different in each diff. IMHO

Easyl

Delete some useless greenlines.
Ar-> 4 or mb 3? , 5 really high for easy
00:57:469 (1) - this kind hard for easy to my opinion
00:55:948 (3,1,1) - ^

Normal

ar-> 5
00:11:817 (3,4) - bad flow i suggest 1 slider from 3->4(start (red to white line))
00:30:948 (3) - suggest start here(slider instead 3)
00:57:687 (3,4) - souds like white tick silenced


Hard

there hitsouds 'sounds' better (volume)
00:17:035 (1) - move it to 1 more tick or smthig remake fist beat after this slider
00:43:556 (4) - make it more proportionally
00:45:513 (1) - crl+g i guess? or idk, its bad spacing
00:55:948 (1,2) - try blanket mb? now it looks wierd
01:22:035 (1) - move it left a bit

Insane

00:25:513 (4) - suggest

00:35:078 (1) - move it right a bit?
00:45:513 (1) - make it closer pls (just a bit)
00:59:861 (2,3,4,5) - bad flow

That's all!
Goodluck with your maps!
Topic Starter
vick

Mitkoff wrote:

Hello!
m4m! Hi !
General

HS too low, mb icreasce to 40-45%? hmm, ok
Overall all diffs looks good for me but so identical. Idk mb it's good for mapset's structure but i prefer to see something different in each diff. IMHO

Easyl

Delete some useless greenlines. there is no problem with that
Ar-> 4 or mb 3? , 5 really high for easy ok, fixed to ar4
00:57:469 (1) - this kind hard for easy to my opinion gonna wait for more suggestions about it
00:55:948 (3,1,1) - ^^


Normal

ar-> 5
00:11:817 (3,4) - bad flow i suggest 1 slider from 3->4(start (red to white line)) hmm, its okay to me tbh
00:30:948 (3) - suggest start here(slider instead 3) ok
00:57:687 (3,4) - souds like white tick silenced fixed



Hard

there hitsouds 'sounds' better (volume)
00:17:035 (1) - move it to 1 more tick or smthig remake fist beat after this slider ?
00:43:556 (4) - make it more proportionally
00:45:513 (1) - crl+g i guess? or idk, its bad spacing how can that be bad spacing when its stacked with 2 after a pause ? lol
00:55:948 (1,2) - try blanket mb? now it looks wierd i like it rn, making a blanket means increasing spacing in that pattern
01:22:035 (1) - move it left a bit why ?

Insane

00:25:513 (4) - suggest

00:35:078 (1) - move it right a bit? its okay for me
00:45:513 (1) - make it closer pls (just a bit) ?
00:59:861 (2,3,4,5) - bad flow how can that be a bad flow when the notes are literally infront each other ? lol

That's all!
Goodluck with your maps! Thank you!
Sonnyc
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/56756

Meaningful song for me. I even remember that 56756 until now lol
Poke me when you're ready
Topic Starter
vick

Sonnyc wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/56756

Meaningful song for me. I even remember that 56756 until now lol
Poke me when you're ready
Literally mapped the song because of your map lol

Thank you Sonnyc !
Izzywing
hello, my end of a m4m :)

your first map was one of the first maps I've ever modded, so it's nice to see it ranked. congrats on that btw c:

[Easy]

SV changes aren't recommended in Easy diffs, but I actually think it's fine here. Get a BN's opinion imo

00:07:252 (1) - try to give this slider rotational symmetry
00:11:382 (3,4) - I think stacks under the end of a slider are too hard for an "easy" difficulty, even if its 1.8 stars
00:43:774 (1,1) - not enough recovery time after the spinner. making the spinner smaller makes it really short, i suggest deleting it and just using a slider or something
00:57:469 (1,1) - ^, also having a spinner this fast after a note is similarly confusing for newer players

Overall a good diff but it doesn't really feel like an Easy to me in terms of how you did your flow and rhythm, I think it's more like a Normal. That being said, you already have a Normal, so there's maybe another word you can use to describe this diff, but I don't think Easy is an appropriate name. Again, this is the kinda thing you'd get a BN opinion on.

[Normal]

00:10:295 (3,1) - this flow's pretty tight, you're going straight up into 1 then immediatly moving right, I think you should move 1 to the right some or shape 3 differently
00:35:730 (2,3) - maybe blanket this? would probably improve the flow too, altho you'd have to adjust 00:36:817 (1) - cos of the DS
00:43:774 (1,1) - not enough recovery time for a normal, I think
00:52:469 (1) - rotational symmetry, proof that it's not - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5480051 (Notice how it doesn't fully overlap itself when rotated twice)
^this kinda thing is like super nazi, you dont have to change if you don't feel like it
01:27:252 (1) - I think the spinner ends too soon as there's still some sound left over when you end it. applies for all diffs

[Hard]

00:10:730 (1) - flow would be better if this shape was ctrl+J'd
00:43:556 (4) - rotational symmetry :C
00:45:513 (1,2) - these two being so close and the others being far away feels weird. I think you should just make them the same distance apart

this is a really good diff! I agree with all of the jumps, and the overall flow and shapes and aesthetics and all that jazz are all very nice.

[Insane]

00:30:948 (1,2,3) - might look neat if the starts of the sliders and 3 formed an equilateral triangle
00:35:948 (3,4) - i like this more if these two had the same shape (as in 4 was 3 but rotated twice)

clean diff, cant really find mistakes.

Overall I think your spread might be a bit questionable (1.8/2.2/2.9/3.2), but it could be fine.

very good mapset, good luck ~
Topic Starter
vick

Hobbes2 wrote:

hello, my end of a m4m :)

your first map was one of the first maps I've ever modded, so it's nice to see it ranked. congrats on that btw c: Thank you so much ! :3

[Easy]

SV changes aren't recommended in Easy diffs, but I actually think it's fine here. Get a BN's opinion imo hmm... okay

00:07:252 (1) - try to give this slider rotational symmetry fixed
00:11:382 (3,4) - I think stacks under the end of a slider are too hard for an "easy" difficulty, even if its 1.8 stars hmm, im gonna wait for more suggestions about this
00:43:774 (1,1) - not enough recovery time after the spinner. making the spinner smaller makes it really short, i suggest deleting it and just using a slider or something fixed
00:57:469 (1,1) - ^, also having a spinner this fast after a note is similarly confusing for newer players i think i fixed it

Overall a good diff but it doesn't really feel like an Easy to me in terms of how you did your flow and rhythm, I think it's more like a Normal. That being said, you already have a Normal, so there's maybe another word you can use to describe this diff, but I don't think Easy is an appropriate name. Again, this is the kinda thing you'd get a BN opinion on. oh okay, im gonna consider this and maybe change it to Advanced and make another Easy

[Normal]

00:10:295 (3,1) - this flow's pretty tight, you're going straight up into 1 then immediatly moving right, I think you should move 1 to the right some or shape 3 differently its okay for me
00:35:730 (2,3) - maybe blanket this? would probably improve the flow too, altho you'd have to adjust 00:36:817 (1) - cos of the DS im not gonna make a blanket here cuz the movement would be weird, you have to move your cursor too much to the right to hit that slider
00:43:774 (1,1) - not enough recovery time for a normal, I think already fixed
00:52:469 (1) - rotational symmetry, proof that it's not - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5480051 (Notice how it doesn't fully overlap itself when rotated twice)
^this kinda thing is like super nazi, you dont have to change if you don't feel like it fixed a bit
01:27:252 (1) - I think the spinner ends too soon as there's still some sound left over when you end it. applies for all diffs hmm, im gonna consider this if someone else says the same

[Hard]

00:10:730 (1) - flow would be better if this shape was ctrl+J'd I did it in purpouse (sorry if that is not the correct word)
00:43:556 (4) - rotational symmetry :C that one is ok for me tbh, is not perfect, but plays good
00:45:513 (1,2) - these two being so close and the others being far away feels weird. I think you should just make them the same distance apart omg, i forgot to Ctrl G the 1 lol

this is a really good diff! I agree with all of the jumps, and the overall flow and shapes and aesthetics and all that jazz are all very nice. Thanks !

[Insane]

00:30:948 (1,2,3) - might look neat if the starts of the sliders and 3 formed an equilateral triangle but i didnt want to make a triangle Orz
00:35:948 (3,4) - i like this more if these two had the same shape (as in 4 was 3 but rotated twice) I did them like that because 00:35:730 (2,3) - is a straigh pattern, so i think it would fit better

clean diff, cant really find mistakes.

Overall I think your spread might be a bit questionable (1.8/2.2/2.9/3.2), but it could be fine.

very good mapset, good luck ~ Thanks ! :3
O-Moei
Hello !, NM from In-Game chat. owo !!!, Here we meet again vick ! >w</ . Nah, I hope I can be helpful here.

General :
How about equalizing the combo colors with the BG character's hair color ?. Seemed nice :P
01:27:252 (1) - Maybe all spinner end volume lovelier if it's 10%-5%

Easy :
00:08:556 (1) - Remove NC and start NC here 00:08:991 (2) -
00:12:469 (4) - I guess should start NC here or here 00:12:904 (5) - . But I prefer 00:12:904 (5) -
00:41:165 (4) - You forget the slider end Clap, I guess :P

Normal :
Excellent !

Hard :
00:17:035 (1) - 00:30:948 (1) - How about slider end Whistle ?
Judged from the song, 01:18:991 (5) - NC here

Insane :
00:57:904 (1,2,3) - How about Triangle flow ?

Awesome overall ! \>w</ . Good luck again, vick ! :)
Topic Starter
vick

O-Moei wrote:

Hello !, NM from In-Game chat. owo !!!, Here we meet again vick ! >w</ . Nah, I hope I can be helpful here.
=w= thank you !

General :
How about equalizing the combo colors with the BG character's hair color ?. Seemed nice :P I wanted to do that in the first place, but lest be honest. No ones likes a combo color brown or that kind of yellow xD
01:27:252 (1) - Maybe all spinner end volume lovelier if it's 10%-5% Okay, fixed!

Easy :
00:08:556 (1) - Remove NC and start NC here 00:08:991 (2) - Fixed
00:12:469 (4) - I guess should start NC here or here 00:12:904 (5) - . But I prefer 00:12:904 (5) - Fixed
00:41:165 (4) - You forget the slider end Clap, I guess :P Ohh rip, fixed

Normal :
Excellent ! thanks!

Hard :
00:17:035 (1) - 00:30:948 (1) - How about slider end Whistle ? Fixed
Judged from the song, 01:18:991 (5) - NC here ohh i forgot to put NC, fixed!

Insane :
00:57:904 (1,2,3) - How about Triangle flow ? uhh, i think its fine tbh, but i will consider it anyway!

Awesome overall ! \>w</ . Good luck again, vick ! :) Thank you so much ! :D
Sonnyc
Actually, I like my older version better than my new one... lol
Credits for I icon. http://puu.sh/pHBUW/1d2be017a1.zip

Using Lucy Maria Misora on the BG this time <3

You can use the video included in my mapset.
Topic Starter
vick

Sonnyc wrote:

Actually, I like my older version better than my new one... lol
Credits for I icon. http://puu.sh/pHBUW/1d2be017a1.zip

Using Lucy Maria Misora on the BG this time <3

You can use the video included in my mapset.
Thanks ! Everything uploaded ! <3
Fanker
Hello~

My modest mod o.o

Insane

00:44:861 (3) - why not
00:55:948 (1,2) - why not [2]
00:57:035 (3) - I think this note should be raised. not very convenient to read maybe - ?
01:05:948 (6,7,1) - not very nice place. how do you such an idea?

Sonnyc's Insane

00:13:774 (5) - ctrl+j -more beautiful, i think
00:28:991 (6) - ctrl+g (you have to change the jump) ?1 ?2
00:47:904 (2) - maybe - ?
00:54:209 (1) - more beautiful, i think

beautiful song get lucky~
Topic Starter
vick

Fanker wrote:

Hello~

My modest mod o.o

Insane

00:44:861 (3) - why not I dont like overlaping
00:55:948 (1,2) - why not [2]
00:57:035 (3) - I think this note should be raised. not very convenient to read maybe - ? the reason for that is to make the jump 4 - 5 with more spacing cuz a higher sound in the music
01:05:948 (6,7,1) - not very nice place. how do you such an idea? changed a bit

Sonnyc's Insane

00:13:774 (5) - ctrl+j -more beautiful, i think
00:28:991 (6) - ctrl+g (you have to change the jump) ?1 ?2
00:47:904 (2) - maybe - ?
00:54:209 (1) - more beautiful, i think

beautiful song get lucky~ thanks for the mod !
_MiaoFUuU_
Hi~
as your req

Normal

  1. 00:13:556 (4) - i think you can use slider replaced the circle ,because 00:13:774 - there has a sound
  2. 00:28:774 - there add a circle and 00:28:991 - there place a slider
  3. 00:30:295 (2) - change into two circles?
  4. 00:44:209 - use this rhythm? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5488363

Hard

  1. 00:11:382 (2) - take it stack to the next slider
  2. 00:13:556 (4) - add
  3. 00:37:469 (2) - stack
  4. 01:03:991 (3,6,4,4) - they are hit the next slider,but not the same, you can do that all same like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5488395 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5488405

Insane

  1. 00:13:774 - add
  2. 00:43:556 (1) - you can hold down shift and flow it blanket the circle
  3. 00:45:513 (1) - stack
  4. 00:55:948 (1) - ↑

good luck~ ;)
Topic Starter
vick

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:

Hi~
as your req Hi ~

Normal

  1. 00:13:556 (4) - i think you can use slider replaced the circle ,because 00:13:774 - there has a sound Will consider this in all diffs, the reason why I didnt use a note there is because i was following the voice, not the instruments
  2. 00:28:774 - there add a circle and 00:28:991 - there place a slider fixed
  3. 00:30:295 (2) - change into two circles? hmm.. its okay for me
  4. 00:44:209 - use this rhythm? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5488363 fixed

Hard

  1. 00:11:382 (2) - take it stack to the next slider Cant understand what do you mean Orz
  2. 00:13:556 (4) - add Same as I sayd in the Normal diff
  3. 00:37:469 (2) - stack fixed
  4. 01:03:991 (3,6,4,4) - they are hit the next slider,but not the same, you can do that all same like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5488395 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5488405 oh, i like the current pattern but im gonna wait to see if anyone says the same

Insane

  1. 00:13:774 - add Same as I sayd in the Normal diff
  2. 00:43:556 (1) - you can hold down shift and flow it blanket the circle I like it right now
  3. 00:45:513 (1) - stack Fixed
  4. 00:55:948 (1) - ↑ Fixed

good luck~ ;) Thanks a lot for the mod ! :D
Ohwow
Hi! From your request through in-game messaging!

Sonnyc's Insane
00:03:556 (1,2) - remove NC, put NC on the next one.01:25:078 (3) - cut the length of this slider by half, or delete this slider and add 2 notes on the white and red tick. Then, at 01:25:513 - add a slider. This is so that you can keep following the singer.
00:07:252 (1) - Emphasize the singer with sliders?
00:07:904 (4) - ^
00:08:556 (3) - ^
00:08:991 (1) - ^
00:57:035 (1) - remove NC. not really needed.
If you are serious about getting this map ranked, then I would personally do something about the long sliders, since they are a bit unusual. However, i personally enjoyed watching those sliders go when i was modding, so... ayy. C: Also I'd recommend slider art the long straight sliders so the map doesn't look too bland.

Also try changing AR to 8.5. and maybe change CS to 4.

Chill song. good luck! C:
O-Moei
Hi there again, vick !. Forgot to tell this =w=

When I heard the song closely, the Kiai End right here 01:27:035 (5) - . But right now, you placed it here 01:27:252 (1) -
Nah, this was just to make this map seemed nice, I guess not a big problem tbh

No kudos on this one, good luck again ! >w</
Topic Starter
vick

O-Moei wrote:

Hi there again, vick !. Forgot to tell this =w=

When I heard the song closely, the Kiai End right here 01:27:035 (5) - . But right now, you placed it here 01:27:252 (1) -
Nah, this was just to make this map seemed nice, I guess not a big problem tbh

No kudos on this one, good luck again ! >w</

Oh rip, im gonna use the same kiai that used Sonnyc in his diff !

Thanks for the help !
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