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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年8月6日 at 15:58:02

Artist: capitaro
Title: Koigahara no Kassen
Tags: Vocaloid 未来和歌集 初音ミク Hatsune Miku Nardoxyribonucleic
BPM: 166
Filesize: 5837kb
Play Time: 03:11
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Download: capitaro - Koigahara no Kassen
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first attempt to map taiko for rank
Inner Oni by Nardoxyribonucleic
other diffs by myself

Pending now, need mods!

special thanks to Delis for writing the lyrics down for me!

edit: 26th APR. thanks to Kankri, 5urface and Mihaugoku
edit: 21st MAY. thanks to Dino99
edit: 19th JUN. thanks to PatZar and Nardoxyribonucleic
edit: 23rd JUN. thanks to Venix, Testo, hohol454, SkinnyJommy, Kyuukai, [Nemesis] and _orange
edit: 6th AUG. thanks to D o t
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14:51 ts8zs: @Zero__wind 1/4两连大同色应该是不能rank的 DK我就不清楚了 然后鱼蛋(连打)后面应该是不能同色接大即 dD,kK 但是dK,kD似乎是可以的
14:52 384059043: 我记得同色不能超过三个接同色的大...
14:52 384059043: 可能我记错rule了
14:52 ts8zs: 但是dKd这种我也不清楚了_(:3」∠)_
14:52 ts8zs: 反正1/4二连大肯定是不行的
14:53 ts8zs: 还有似乎你变速切换有的有超车 超车似乎对rank也不太好
14:54 ts8zs: 总之我这种怂货只敢单用大23333

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ts8zs wrote:
14:51 ts8zs: @Zero__wind 1/4两连大同色应该是不能rank的 DK我就不清楚了 然后鱼蛋(连打)后面应该是不能同色接大即 dD,kK 但是dK,kD似乎是可以的
14:52 384059043: 我记得同色不能超过三个接同色的大...
14:52 384059043: 可能我记错rule了
14:52 ts8zs: 但是dKd这种我也不清楚了_(:3」∠)_
14:52 ts8zs: 反正1/4二连大肯定是不行的
14:53 ts8zs: 还有似乎你变速切换有的有超车 超车似乎对rank也不太好
14:54 ts8zs: 总之我这种怂货只敢单用大23333

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猴 蟹蟹啦 有事着急出门了才看到
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Hello!


General

You could just call the taiko diffs "Muzukashii" and "Oni", this is optional though.
At 01:00:779 and 02:54:268 remove kiai.
at 02:53:183 and 00:59:695 slowdown isn't needed in Taiko.


Taiko Muzukashii

00:49:936 Add a new don note, it sounds incomplete without it.
00:50:658 (220,221,222) - Change this to kat, it sounds better with Miku singing~
00:51:201 (223) - Change this to don, sounds better with the rhythm.
01:50:658 Add a new don note here too.


Taiko Oni

01:00:779 (333,334) - Remove hitfinish, it is unrankable in Taiko.
01:01:321 (337,338) - ^
01:02:225 (343,344) - ^
01:02:767 (347,348) - ^
01:29:966 (503) - Change this into kat, it sounds better with the instruments in the song.
01:30:689 (507) - ^
01:35:749 (534) - ^
01:36:472 (538) - ^


Good luck!
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Kasha wrote:
Hello!


General

You could just call the taiko diffs "Muzukashii" and "Oni", this is optional though. will decide later
At 01:00:779 and 02:54:268 remove kiai. ok
at 02:53:183 and 00:59:695 slowdown isn't needed in Taiko. will see more opinions


Taiko Muzukashii

00:49:936 Add a new don note, it sounds incomplete without it. will see if anyone else feels the same, I'm a little afraid that would make the rhythm too hard
00:50:658 (220,221,222) - Change this to kat, it sounds better with Miku singing~ changed 221 222, kept 220
00:51:201 (223) - Change this to don, sounds better with the rhythm. ok
01:50:658 Add a new don note here too.


Taiko Oni

01:00:779 (333,334) - Remove hitfinish, it is unrankable in Taiko. sad but yes
01:01:321 (337,338) - ^
01:02:225 (343,344) - ^
01:02:767 (347,348) - ^
01:29:966 (503) - Change this into kat, it sounds better with the instruments in the song. all fixed
01:30:689 (507) - ^
01:35:749 (534) - ^
01:36:472 (538) - ^


Good luck!

thanks for your mod!
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Hey Zero__wind o/
NM from my queue

General

At just above 3 minutes you cannot go for the approved category with this set and therefore have to follow the traditional ranking difficulty spread. You can read up on that Here.
Basically you need additional low difficulties in your mapset, at least 1 each for Standard and Taiko, better more. If you go with 2 additional Standard diffs however you can skip the additional Taiko diff. Aim for just below 2 stars and about 3 stars diff with the standard ones for a proper spread and if you decide to add another Taiko diff a Futsuu at about 2 to 2.5 stars would be nice.

EDIT: Yeah, I should read the description before typing away XD The above still applies in the current state but as that's still WIP just disregard it. An additional low Taiko diff however might be nice for newer players though :)

Timing

The timing feels a bit off to me, try to go with an offset of -2845 on your first red timing point (don't forget to resnap, scale and so on). This would also make your second red timing point obsolete which was not entirely neccessary in the first place and can be replaced with a green timing point at 162697 offset.

Muzukashii

Subjectively this one is rather on the tough side for a Muzukashii. While all the used elements are okay for a Muzu I feel like it wouldn't hurt to nerf it just a bit. That would also set it further apart from the Oni. At least consider removing the (sometimes a bit forced) SV changes to nerf the map without actually changing the notes.
00:49:936 - The above suggested additional don here is not neccessary. Especially considering that this break nicely follows the vocals and making this section harder would only further increase the already high difficulty for a Muzu.


Oni

Overall I am still a bit unsure of your rather frequent use of finishers on the last hit of patterns but that might just be my mapping style.
The section from 02:00:418 to 02:12:707 feels a bit too emtpy compared to what you mapped from 02:12:707 - 02:24:634 considering that the music doesn't change much within this whole section. Maybe map the first half a little bit harder with a more gradual increase in difficulty towards the second half.
02:54:268 (981,982) - These 1/4 double finishers are borderline unrankable and imo not really neccessary either. Probably best to make these regular notes
02:54:810 (985,986) - ^
02:55:714 (991,992) - ^
02:56:256 (995,996) - ^
02:57:159 (1001,1002,1003,1004,1005,1006,1007,1008) - ^
02:58:605 (1011,1012) - ^
03:08:726 (1075,1076,1077,1078) - how about a 1/2 K K d pattern instead, would sound very nice and be a better fit for what the music actually provides
03:09:448 (1080,1081,1082,1083) - see above, but this time a D D k
03:10:714 (1089) - d might fit the melody better


The Taiko mapping itself on the two diffs is pretty solid to be honest and they were fun to play. With the still missing diffs added and timing fixed I think you have a good shot at getting this ranked.

Good luck!
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Sorry, if the mod is bad, i'm just a beginner!
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General
• I don't like that you use SV changes too often. Consider removing some of them, and make them a bit easier in Muzukashii.


Taiko Muzukashi
00:17:948 (81,82) - I would consider doing a or [d k] here, because i think it fits it better.
00:25:899 (110) - maybe change to d, since you do that later in 00:28:791 (123) and it fits better here
01:09:725 (314,315) - i don't like that you do [dk] here and later. If you try to match the drum, then 00:11:893 (55,56) should be a [dk] too, i think, otherwise you can do [kd] to match the instrument that i don't know name of.
01:19:755 (361) - probably add a k note here
02:40:538 - 02:41:261 - this feels empty since vocal is there, consider adding a [k d k d] to match it.


Taiko Oni
• Note: I see you're using finisher notes at the end of patterns A LOT. I especially don't like the kD or dK ones.
01:02:496 (345,346) - keep it consistent as before, change to [dd]
01:03:038 (349,350) - ^
01:03:580 (354) - i would personally place a d here, but it's fine
01:03:942 (356,357,358,359) - kd k d fits better here
01:06:833 (374,375,376,377) - same here
01:11:622 (404,405,406,407) - dk dk seems better
02:28:972 (839,840,841,842,843,844,845) - i think [d dkd dkd] OR [k kdk kdk] fits better here. I would personally pick the second one.
02:40:538 - 02:41:261 - same as in Muzukashii diff
02:54:268 (981,982) - WHY??
02:57:159 (1001,1002,1003,1004,1005,1006,1007,1008,1009,1010,1011,1012) - ugh... i really don't like this
03:11:165 (1092) - i think you can remove this

I hope this mod helps!
Have a good day! :D
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wtf you map taiko
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wtf you map taiko

lol just thinking that this song is so suitable for taiko maps~
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no kudosu but you've spelt Muzukashii wrong in diff name:

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spelt with two i's :)
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My diff is done~

https://puu.sh/sWDXo.rar

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the lyrics that might need some opinions from japanese people lol
いざ進めよ 目指すは 君を待たせりし場所
臆すな 臆せば 足は重くなる
この想いよ 君へと 導くしるべとなれ
迷うな 迷えば 君は遠のくばかり
可憐な姫よ 恋を知れば 君が為に 強さを身に纏う
胸が打ち鳴らすその言葉 戦の始まりを告げる
想い描いた僕の横顔 叶うその時を夢見て
(in above 00:56:798 this might be wrong as this sounds slightly off with the lyrics around)

いざ射止めよ 狙うは 君の幸福のみ
惑うな 惑えば 想いは伝わらぬ
遠い国の 娘が 挑んで散った
されども 言うのが 僕の決意は固し (this part seriously needs opinions)
一人女を 磨いてきた 今日の為に 身の矢を武器に取れ
強く打ち放つ矢の切先で 君のその心撃とう
君がそこに持つ恋心で 僕の命運は別るる

苦き心 苦き思い 抱えし日々は 長く続く
行けど行けど 君は遠い 道は長い

胸が打ち鳴らすその鼓動が 戦の始まりを告げる
強く言い放つその言葉が 君のその心射貫こう
二人出逢うこの恋ヶ原で 君との運命よ 繋がれ
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thanks for the lyrics Delis you're the best modder
will make SB with this

挖起来晾一会儿继续坟

oh, and also a reaaaaaally late thanks to 5urface and Mihaugoku for the taiko mods
sorry I lost my reply to your mods and can't really remember now as I was not using my own pc when applying the mods
but what I can be sure is that I benefited a lot from them, thank you!
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