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00:08:143 (1,2) - Keep the slider going.
00:11:024 (2,4) - Don't overlap.
00:11:872 (1,2) - Move 1 down so it isn't as close to 2.
00:42:719 (6,7) - Would flow better if they were switched.
00:58:990 (5) - The slider end needs to be clearly visible. Moving it down a bit still keeps the shape and fixes the problem.
00:59:838 (6,7,8) - Triple isn't necessary.
01:11:024 (4,5,6) - Move this closer to the sliders and 3?
01:22:041 (1,1,2,1,2) - This could just be one combo.
01:27:634 (2) - Should go to the red tick (don't end sliders on blues).
01:30:516 (1) - Continue with the combo already going and make 01:32:211 (2) - a new combo.
01:35:262 (2) - Slider end.
01:40:685 (2) - ^
01:49:499 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Start of the stream is kind of messy and can be done better.
01:58:651 (5,1,2) - Space out more.
02:02:889 (4) - Slider end.
02:11:363 (4) - ^
02:20:685 (1,2,3,4,5) - Even the spacing between 1,2 and 5?
02:36:617 (4) - NC
02:38:821 (4) - Would go better as a blanket.
02:40:855 (2,5) - Don't overlap.
02:42:041 (7,10) - ^ or stack.
02:43:906 (5) - NC
02:54:160 (1,2,3) - Keep the same beats you were before since the sliders seem out of place.
03:23:736 (3) - Slider end.
03:29:499 (2) - Move out from under the slider.
04:03:397 (3) - Put after the slider end of 2.
04:16:109 (4,5,6,1,2,1,2) - These jumps can be redone to seem less random.
04:21:363 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make straight?
04:28:821 (3,1,2) - Don't overlap.
04:37:465 (6) - Bring closer to 5.
04:57:295 (3,5) - Watch overlap.
05:21:024 (1) - Keep the current beat you have going because the flow gets killed here.

02:45 regN: aight
02:45 regN: relink your map again
02:45 *Maq is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/973774 Porter Robinson - Sad Machine]
02:46 regN: how long have you been mapping for?
02:46 Maq: not too long
02:46 Maq: this is the first map i've really tried to get modded/potentially ranked
02:47 regN: its pretty good
02:47 Maq: thank you
02:47 Maq: hitsounds are still messy though
02:47 regN: can't help you on that front
02:48 Maq: i understand
02:48 Maq: i can probably fix that on my own at a later date
02:48 regN: I just focus on the movement part of maps
02:48 regN: I map for fun/to the graveyard
02:48 regN: so I focus on what movment is fun/works etc
02:49 regN: are you familiar with the mapping terms like flow/blanket etc
02:49 Maq: i know what blanket means
02:49 Maq: not familiar with flow
02:49 regN: https://osu.ppy.sh/news/61334266941 this is a pretty good read
02:50 regN: but basically flow is just having your cursor move in a circle
02:50 Maq: i see
02:50 regN: either clockwise or counter clockwise and just knowing when to switch around
02:50 regN: 00:09:160 (1) -
02:50 regN: so like here
02:51 regN: like anytime you break the flow you put a big emphasis on that specific note
02:51 Maq: makes sense
02:51 regN: waiting on puush
02:51 regN: gimme a sec
02:52 regN: http://puu.sh/oVOVv/ad4284fce7.jpg
02:52 regN: like if you follow the movemnt between the notes loosly you that this flows better because of the circular movement thing
02:52 regN: and it drops into 00:10:177 (2) - better
02:52 Maq: i see
02:52 Maq: that makes a lot more sense
02:53 regN: like it could be cool to break flow on 00:09:160 (1) -
02:53 regN: as its the most impactful? sound of the combo
02:53 regN: 00:08:143 (1,2,3,4,1,2) -
02:53 regN: like out of these
02:53 regN: 00:09:160 (1) - this is the focal point
02:54 regN: so even flipping it to break flow http://puu.sh/oVP1B/e6736f7028.png like this makes sense
02:54 regN: and thats like you as a mappers decison on how you want to map it
02:55 Maq: i think i want to keep the flow and map it like http://prntscr.com/b5c8je
02:55 regN: so like flow is one way to emphasize things which you haven't done that much, but what you have done well is emphasizing with spacing
02:55 regN: yeah
02:55 regN: its emphasized enough with the spacing so it works fine
02:55 regN: 00:10:177 (2,1) - like this is spaced really well
02:55 regN: 00:08:990 (4,1) - ^
02:56 Maq:
02:56 regN: like a lot of the map is spaced well to the song
02:56 regN: its just that the flow breaks seem random
02:56 Maq: i see
02:56 regN: some neatness things also
02:57 regN: 00:10:855 (1,2,3) - straighten this triangle
02:57 regN: like I have 2 selected
02:57 regN: http://puu.sh/oVPdk/75477346b3.png reading the top right you can see the spacing
02:58 regN: that its 2.02x from 1 and 2.03x to 3
02:58 regN: so its like even spacing
02:58 regN: like you could have made the spacing a bit bigger to 3 if you wanted to highlight that note
02:58 regN: as its the strongest of the 3
02:59 regN: or you could have changed flow direction
02:59 Maq: ok
03:00 regN: like this is how I would arrange the combo http://puu.sh/oVPkG/9a887a83c8.png
03:00 regN: 00:10:855 (1,2,3,4) -
03:00 regN: to highlight each note
03:01 regN: slider flow is pretty important
03:01 regN: like here you miss the mark 00:11:533 (4,1) -
03:02 Maq: something like this? http://prntscr.com/b5caf2
03:02 regN: http://puu.sh/oVPu8/bb405f3f6d.jpg
03:03 regN: that hits the 1 a lot better
03:03 regN: then you like keep making circle motions to get the flow going
03:03 Maq: alright
03:04 Maq: make sense
03:04 regN: http://puu.sh/oVPA0/9de22c992d.jpg
03:05 regN: like there are a lot of things you can do
03:06 Maq: yeah
03:06 regN: http://puu.sh/oVPEd/ce40c54965.jpg is something similar to what I might've done?
03:06 regN: but you just find what note you want to hightlight or w/e
03:07 regN: 00:14:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Im unsure about the spacing choices here
03:07 regN: all of them seem quite equal in intensity if that makes any sense
03:08 regN: and the spacing seems rather random
03:09 regN: I mean if you have a reason for it go ahead
03:09 Maq: i guess it kind of was xd
03:10 Maq: if i wanted to put emphasis on the third note for example, would i make that one farther away from the rest?
03:10 regN: you could do it that way or make the flow turn at 3
03:11 regN: hm a general thing is that if you have sharper angles to the notes you put more emphasis on them
03:11 Maq: like something like this http://prntscr.com/b5ccze
03:12 regN: that would work
03:12 Maq: nice
03:14 regN: http://puu.sh/oVQ1I/f9eef208d3.jpg basically the purple angle is sharper to 2/3 than the blue from 1/2
03:14 regN: puts more emphasis on 3
03:14 regN: just as a side note
03:14 regN: what you've done is good
03:15 Maq: ah
03:15 regN: 00:22:041 (4,5,1) -
03:15 Maq: that makes a lot of sense
03:15 regN: like this kind of flow is quite awkward
03:15 regN: slider 4 show upward motion but you go down to hit 5
03:16 regN: that might be a bit personal bias
03:17 regN: 00:12:380 (2,3) -
03:17 Maq: i think you're right
03:17 regN: general tip on blanketing
03:17 Maq: i moved it http://prntscr.com/b5ce8n
03:17 regN: I linked that cone picture thing
03:17 regN: like you want it to be inside that unless you want to highlight it
03:17 regN: is a general rule I go by
03:18 regN: if I want to highlight it I keep half of the circle inside the cone thing
03:18 regN: 00:12:380 (2,3) - on blanketing
03:18 regN: I use the approach circle from 3 to shape my 2 slider
03:19 regN: http://puu.sh/oVQid/4b7278c325.jpg
03:19 regN: like that
03:19 regN: on the smallest grid
03:19 Maq: whoa
03:19 Maq: thats pretty cool actually
03:19 regN: keeps them really consistent
03:20 Maq: i want to put a bit more emphasis on the third slider tho
03:20 regN: this is what I would have done http://puu.sh/oVQos/5c8e9982d9.jpg
03:21 regN: I don't know if you've looked into a lot of ranked maps
03:21 regN: but captin1 does this quite a bit
03:22 regN: and like these concepts kinda applies to different parts of your map
03:22 regN: like the spacing here 00:27:634 (1,2,1) -
03:23 Maq: ok
03:23 regN: I could give you a few more mapping tips for when you go through your map again
03:23 Maq: so you think i should flip that slider?
03:23 regN: I would have done that
03:23 regN: 00:51:787 -
03:24 regN: if you press that time stamp
03:24 regN: then do ctrl+shift+d
03:24 regN: osu makes perfect shapes for you
03:24 regN: like triangles/squares/pentagons/hexagons etc
03:24 regN: its really useful when you're making the star/square patterns that the spacing is correct
03:25 regN: or else it will be a bit awkward to play
03:25 Maq: ooh thats cool
03:25 regN: 01:49:499 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
03:25 regN: a thing about sliders
03:25 regN: if you go back to the timestamp 00:51:787 -
03:25 regN: you can make a slider
03:25 regN: select it
03:25 regN: and do ctrl+shift+f
03:26 regN: and it will turn the slider into a stream
03:26 regN: that way you get the correct spacing and you can make perfect arcs
03:26 Maq: whoa
03:26 Maq: thanks man
03:26 regN: np
03:27 regN: aight thats it for me
03:27 regN: gl with this
03:27 Maq: thank you so much
03:27 regN: its just hard to explain these kind of things over a forum post
03:27 Maq: yeah now i understand
03:28 regN: aight I'll post the log on your forum thing
03:28 regN: so that you can look back

02:41:872 (1,2,3,4,5) - 4 should be closer to 3 and 5 for consistency sake
02:43:228 (1,2,3,4) - this feels like its one to long try taking one note off
02:54:160 (1) - this should be one tick back
03:12:889 (1,2,3) - i think this should mirror 03:15:601 (1,2,3) -

03:09 *firedigger is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/973774 Porter Robinson - Sad Machine [Melancholy]]
03:22 Maq: ?
03:22 firedigger: I wanted to IRC mod the map
03:23 Maq: ok
03:23 firedigger: But I found another activity, I'll get to it later
03:24 firedigger: But I do love the song though
03:24 Maq: ok, np
03:24 Maq: yea song is awesome
04:02 firedigger: okay, let's do it
04:03 Maq: ok
04:04 firedigger: 00:23:736 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - the shape is good, you should polish it a little
04:04 firedigger: for exmaple, the spacing is not perfectly uniform there
04:05 Maq: it should be
04:05 Maq: i used the ctrl+shift+f tool on it
04:05 firedigger: 00:27:634 (1,1) - that's weird to do NC on a blue tick, I don't see the point
04:05 firedigger: http://firedigger.s-ul.eu/PFuUmQbU
04:05 firedigger: look at the cursour
04:06 Maq: i guess that's because of the bend in the stream
04:06 Maq: i don't think it makes too big of a difference though
04:07 firedigger: yeah, it's OK, but I'd still recommend polishing
04:07 firedigger: it might be important to actual ranking
04:07 firedigger: you know
04:07 Maq: i guess so
04:07 Maq: ill make it a straight line
04:08 firedigger: then you sometimes break the spacing, and it's usually done for the sake of shapes
04:09 firedigger: 00:31:194 (3,4,5,6) - you might have united 3 slider into some kind of pattern, then just put (5) onto (6) so it doesn't interfere, that's my suggestion
04:09 Maq: what do you mean?
04:10 firedigger: 00:32:550 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - then here you have low spacing for (4)-(5) without a good reason while (5) is actually a strong beat and might be better emphasized instead
04:11 firedigger: 00:33:058 (2,6) - and I think you should polish this moment. Make them look more compatible
04:11 firedigger: 00:34:245 (2) - you can easily fix spacing here
04:11 firedigger: 00:38:990 (1,2) - I think you should do a blanket here
04:12 firedigger: 00:40:516 (5,6,7,8) - (5) doesn't kinda fit here, maybe you change the shape a bit?
04:12 firedigger: 00:42:041 (3,6) - looks like a bad overlapping
04:13 firedigger: you might put (6) into end of the slider for example
04:14 firedigger: 00:44:414 (1,2,3) - the distance here is a bit different but can be easily fixed
04:14 Maq: yea i just did that
04:14 firedigger: 00:46:702 (3) - fix spacing here too
04:14 firedigger: 00:47:126 (6) - why is this so close?
04:15 firedigger: I think even NC should be there, white tick also
04:15 firedigger: 01:08:990 (3,4,5) - make perfect triangle pls
04:16 firedigger: 01:10:855 (3,4,5,6) - can be polished too
04:16 firedigger: 01:13:567 (1,2) - seems like too big out of nowhere
04:17 firedigger: 01:14:753 (5,6,7,8,9) - make a good shape for all 5 notes
04:18 firedigger: 01:20:855 (2,3,4,5,6) - this transition is a bit weird looking
04:18 firedigger: 01:20:007 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - fix spacing here everywhere you can pls
04:19 firedigger: 01:25:431 (3) - fix position so it's perfectly between (4) and (5)
04:19 firedigger: 01:27:126 (1,2) - fix approach-circle blanket
04:20 firedigger: 01:28:312 (3) - fix spacing here
04:22 firedigger: 01:33:228 (4,5) - fix blanket
04:22 firedigger: 01:32:889 (3,4) - maybe do a blanket if you want to make them close anyway?
04:23 firedigger: 01:34:414 (1) - putting it on the start of prev (4) slider would make sense
04:23 firedigger: 01:35:262 (2,3) - fix blanket
04:24 firedigger: btw, I am assuming you know what blanket is and how to fix it
04:24 firedigger:
04:24 Maq: ye
04:24 firedigger: 01:37:973 (1,2) - fix blanket D
04:25 firedigger: 01:43:397 (3,4,5,6,7) - why spacing changed? Also fix (5)
04:26 firedigger: 01:49:583 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I think this turn beed a BIT of polishing
04:26 firedigger: 01:57:126 (4,5,1) - fix
04:27 firedigger: btw, you should really usually do NC on white tick
04:27 firedigger: you disobey that constantly
04:28 firedigger: probably other modders gonna mention that
04:28 Maq: i'll fix that soon
04:28 Maq: probably tomorrow or something
04:28 firedigger: 02:07:465 (1,2,3,4) - a better shape would be nicer
04:29 firedigger: 02:11:024 (3,4) - weird rhythm
04:29 firedigger: white tick should start the sliders I think
04:29 firedigger: it's generally a bad idea to end slider on a strogn beat
04:30 Maq: i see
04:30 Maq: how do you think i can change 02:11:024 (3,4) -
04:30 firedigger: 02:24:584 (1,2) - same problem here
04:30 firedigger: well, I said that (4) needs to start on white tick
04:30 firedigger: then you might make (3) as a note
04:30 firedigger: whatever
04:31 firedigger: 02:30:007 (2) - again
04:31 firedigger: 02:31:024 (1,2,3,4,5) - looks MEH
04:32 firedigger: 02:35:600 (1,2) - is that's a blanket, fix it
04:32 firedigger: 02:36:787 (4) - again
04:33 firedigger: 02:50:007 (2,1) - that's a real jump there
04:33 firedigger: 02:50:177 (1) - this shouldn't be a NC
04:33 firedigger: and I don't see why that pattern is used there
04:34 firedigger: 02:54:160 (1,2,3) - wtf is this
04:35 firedigger: you should make them legit 1/1 and move them 1 period forward or smth
04:35 Maq: i've been meaning to change that
04:36 firedigger: 03:16:956 (1) - maybe not THAT curvy?
04:36 firedigger: looks a bit ugly
04:36 firedigger: 03:21:702 (5,6) - maybe blanket?
04:37 firedigger: 03:27:126 (4,5,6,7) - bad flow
04:37 firedigger: 03:28:821 (1,4) - maybe make them at 1 place
04:38 firedigger: remove bad NCs and make it here 03:55:600 (6) - instead
04:39 firedigger: 04:00:346 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - polish squares
04:39 firedigger: 04:02:041 (6,7,8,9,1) - polish spacing here
04:39 firedigger: 04:10:516 (1,2,3) - polish parallelism and distance
04:40 firedigger: 04:12:719 (2,3,4) - make it perfect
04:42 firedigger: 04:22:379 (5,6,7) - these 3 notes should be a bit fixed
04:42 firedigger: you want to copy the same curviness and you had here04:21:532 (3,4,5,6,7) -
04:42 firedigger: btw, it has to be polished as well
04:42 firedigger: looks a bit unsymmetrical
04:43 Maq: what do you recommend i do?
04:43 firedigger: and the strream should have 2 more notes I think
04:43 firedigger: or maybe even a slider where it's empty
04:45 firedigger: well, I've just moved the notes a bit
04:45 firedigger: so it would be a bit more polished
04:47 firedigger: not sure how I can transfer you my poisitons though
04:48 firedigger: 04:30:516 (3) - fix this note in the stream
04:48 firedigger: make one position 04:31:533 (3,1) -
04:48 firedigger: 04:45:092 (1,2,3,4) - this should be a real jump
04:49 firedigger: that's some intense emphasized sounds right there
04:50 Maq: ooo, i like that better
04:50 firedigger: 04:50:516 (3,4,5,6) - you should generally increase spacing in that "final" kliai
04:50 firedigger: 04:55:939 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - you should polish the turns on the stream :s
04:51 firedigger: 05:02:041 (1,2) - fix blanket
04:51 firedigger: 05:14:584 (1) - avoid small curvy sliders, they look a bit weird
04:52 firedigger: for exmaple, a sharp angel looks a bit nicer usually
04:52 firedigger: 05:18:821 (2) - fix spacing
04:53 firedigger: 05:34:245 (2,3) - fix blanket
04:53 firedigger: 05:34:584 (3,1) - either full overlap or blanket
04:54 firedigger: okay, other parts seem to be fairly fine
04:54 firedigger: most of the map is still pretty much good
04:54 firedigger: fix and polish all the stuff mentioned