1. Taiko Detonator (7.35 stars, 2545 notes)

applerss god proved

HimemiyaChikane wrote:

From irc.

这图真难。yes

[Taiko Detonator]
00:09:196 (1) - 这里的绿线要减速自然挺好的，但是0.5x加上那个D相当难受，建议0.75x。OK
00:35:529 (123,124) - 这里建议用1/6的kkkk连上，因为00:35:529 (123) - 这里我并没有听出来有个K，反倒是和后面的搭上了。OK
00:46:195 (216,217,218,219,220) - 改成1/6的ddddddk？听起来更符合这样。 dddkkkd instead

00:56:112 - 加个d。 ok
00:56:279 - 加个d。no, lower density here for short break
00:56:445 - 加个k。^
00:56:612 - 加个d。^
00:56:779 - 加个d。^
00:56:862 (293,294) - 建议用1/6的kdddddd连上 I can't hear that 1/6 SE
这些地方听上去都有对应的音。

01:07:695 (386,387,388) - 改成1/6的dddd试试？ok
01:18:195 (488,489,490) - 1/6的dddk？RIP finisher, no
01:29:029 (573) - 改成k。ok, deleted 574 , add finisher at 575
01:29:112 (574) - 删掉。^
01:29:195 (575) - 改成D。^

02:22:584 (2,3) - 02:23:918 (19,20) - 02:25:251 (36,37) - 建议删掉，这里并没有听出来有对应的音。
02:26:584 (53,54) - 建议删掉，然后在02:26:612 - 放一个d，因为音在这。
02:27:918 (70,71) - 02:29:251 (87,88) - 建议删掉。并没有听出来对应的音。
02:31:112 (111) - 建议删掉，为了保证一点连贯性。
^ I map this stream according to piano voice

02:50:251 (266,267) - 建议删掉，然后在02:50:279 - 这插个k。这对应的并不是1/6啊…… This part is 1/6 , that sound effect from high pitch to low pitch
02:50:445 (269) - 删掉。然而并没听到这儿有音。ok
02:52:862 (291,292,293,294) - 改成1/4的kkd会好一些。no, I hear 1/6 SE here
02:58:195 (338,339,340,341) - 1/4的kdk？^
03:00:918 (365,366) - 建议删掉，在03:00:945 - 加个d。^
03:01:112 (368) - 删掉。^
03:03:529 (389,390,391,392) - 为什么不试试神奇的1/4的xxo呢^

04:11:751 (365,366) - 删掉，没听见什么音啊…… That electrical voice is heard in that place
04:22:418 (494,495) - 这倒是有音，然而这里我认为更适合oo……Nope
04:33:084 (623,624) - 删掉，依然没听见音。^^
04:43:529 (752,753,754,755,756,757,758) - 听上去更符合oooxxxo一点。OK

最后，祝这图能够成功rank！3Q!
顺便说好的M4M：https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/442842 i will mod ur map in this week

[_Chichinya_] wrote:

jai jai mod req via PM!!!


[General]

- Up the HP to 6
- Up the OD to 7
^ Too harsh, no
- and ... IDK xD

[La unica diff !]

- Yes translate that XD, Change this to k... 00:30:362 (92) ok - and this to d 00:30:195 (91) changed 90 - sound better for me
- change to D 00:30:529 (93) - Nothing to emphasis
- add a note here 00:54:445 (279) - and change to k 00:54:529 (280) -
- add a k here 00:59:445 (317) - OK
- add a d here 01:04:779 (364) - OK
- delete this one 01:05:279 (369) - OK
- add a k 01:09:945 (415) - No, remain 3-plet patterns here
- change to k 01:10:362 (419) - ^
- change to k 01:39:862 (672) - No, low pitch(compared to next SE)
- add a k 02:01:945 (99) - no
- change to k 02:02:112 (101) - OK
- add k 01:58:195 (63) -
- add a k here 02:08:945 (165) -
- idk i thing about this 02:22:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139) - but... in my oppinion you need fix it (? seens overmapped... idk why Changed some note ( except for this part 02:31:862 (121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139) - this part fit amaizing XD )
- change to k 02:35:195 (147) -
- same here change to k 02:35:779 (150) -
^ Don't see a point
[Comments]

and this is the end :3 :^) other stuff are good for me xD hahaha good map good song i hope you get Luck ranked this

[-Matt-] wrote:

hi! from irc
move 00:41:945 (180) - to 00:42:445 - and make it a k (same structure as 00:40:195 (164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171) - ) nope
00:59:779 - k (theres a ringing noise in the bg that stands out here) I see your point but this ruin the consistency

01:18:529 - 01:38:195 - (all the kkk d kkk d should be ddd k ddd k, same with the d k k d k k d, it should be k d d k d d k, (keep finishers as finishers)) nope, D fits the emphasis SE
02:00:862 - do a 1/6 dddkkkd here, (theres a drum in the bg that goes for this whole section) Could not hear that 1/6 sound
im not going to mod the cancer stream of death lol.
03:19:695 (540) - d, (same pitch as 03:19:362 - ) nope, the SE is same pitch with the prev note

03:27:862 - 03:38:529 - same as before, kkk d kkk d > ddd k ddd k, keeping finishers ^
03:43:862 (112,113) - ctrl+g, (matches music better) OK
03:49:195 (129,130) - ^ ^

im also not modding this cancer stream of worse death either lol

04:49:112 - k (theres a drum sound here) nope, cannot hear that sound

sorry about bad mod

crazy map, but nice regardless. gl!

ZTH wrote:

Hello~ From my modding queue.

General

1. No general issues here.

Taiko Detonator

1. 00:45:195 (206, 224) - The use of don/kat in this short stream doesn't follow the music that well. You seemed to use dons on every white ticks, but these parts have the increased/emphasized melody so kats work better here. Try experimenting the image below (doesn't have to be exact):
   
   ^ Well, idk how to fix, followed ur pattern
2. 01:01:612 (338) - change to d for smoother flow. k feels abrupt. OK
3. 01:12:779 (441) - move this note to 01:12:945. The new 1/4 break seems to emphasize the previous and next note better. idk, remaped this part, hope I did not made it worse
4. 01:17:195 (482,496) - This short stream also doesn't sound appealing. 01:17:779 (489,490) - Ctrl + g for these two notes? Because 01:17:862 (490) definitely needs to be a k, considering the next notes (which have the same exact sounds) are k. ok
5. 01:28:695 (576,577) - Ctrl + g. 01:28:862 (577) has a much higher pitch than the previous note so k suits better. No, this one follows the another SE
6. 01:44:945 (710) - change to d for smoother flow. (There are too many kats here, which quite overpowers the song.) changed as dkkdkkk
7. 01:58:279 (65,66) - Ctrl + g. Ascending pitch so dk applies better. OK
8. 01:59:862 (78,94) - This stream just sounds so random and I really can not figure out the style you are going for here. (Care to explain for an inexperienced modder like me? ) Because I would place kats on those accentuated melodies instead (like the image below). Fixed this stream
   
9. 02:23:862 (18,19,20,21) - I really don't hear any 1/6, as well as other 1/6 in this stream. (The 1/6 starting at 02:31:862 is fine though. Can hear the subtle beats)
10. 02:50:195 (265,266,267,268) - Again, can't hear any 1/6. (Seems like there are more 1/6 patterns later on with inaudible 1/6)
    ^I do hear the 1/6 SE
11. 02:50:529 (269,270,271,272,273,274) - These pattern feels a bit odd, considering the doublets in kiai are all either kd or dk. Either change these doublets to dk/kd for consistency or use more dd/kk.
    ^fixed a bit
12. 03:38:029 (88,89) - Ctrl + g for smoother flow. Made it both k
13. 03:58:862 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222) - Instead of ddk dkk dkk, go for kkd dkk kdd? Seems more consistent when you look at the previous patterns during kiai (and flows better). ok
14. 04:02:195 (250,251) - Ctrl + g. There's a large bass drum (and snare?) happening on the first note so kd fits better.
15. 04:12:862 (379,380) - Ctrl + g. Same reason as above.
    ^ ok
16. 04:21:196 (479) - change to k. d sounds a bit bland here.
    ^ctrl + g with next note instead
17. 04:21:446 (482,483) - Ctrl + g. Same reason as above but the other way around.
    ^blah, change too much here, mainly ooxooxoxooxooxox here
18. 04:39:112 (696,697) - Ctrl + g. Simply sounds better.
    ^fixed in my own way
19. 04:54:112 (840,841) - Ctrl + g. Loud bass drum and snare(?) on the second note, which serves better as a k. ok
20. 05:06:029 (945) - change to k. d really sounds bland.
21. 05:13:195 (1007) to 05:15:862 (1040) - The last stream suddenly becomes simple and independent to the song, despite you using complex patterns during the rest of the map. This quite kills the flow so I recommend you to make this last stream a bit more complex.
    ^OK
    
    

General an alright map, but the use of dons and kats seems a bit arbitrary at some times. Plus, the use of 1/6 is really questionable. Might want to get more experienced modders on that.

Still, GL with your map~

1. 00:35:529 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129) - I recommend to use kkkkkkd because the sound doesn't give any feedback for another d. Maybe you wanted to create your own rhythm, but currently pattern is odd and to me, not pleasing to play. (03:50:195 - you did it here as well)
2. 00:46:195 (218,219,220,221,222,223,224) - Currently this pattern does somehow fit the melody, but I call this rather clustered. Because of that, you can consider having only 1/4 instead. Maybe this needs more reconsideration from more parties.
3. { 00:57:195 ~ 01:02:362 - I suggest to remove all notes and remap this part with 1/1 don and follow higher pitcheds sounds with kat like this. It's not because pattern structure is bad; actually it is quite good. It is rather because you can't emphasize this and upcoming parts well enough. 00:57:195 differs from previous part in pace, yet it contains the same amount of notes which makes everything feel the same.
4. 01:02:529 ~ 01:06:529 - Same here, just with the difference to have a kat every second beat: Picture
   } If you've done what I suggested in these two sections, the upcoming part at 01:07:862 - should be much more emphasized than before, which rises the quality of the beatmap due to having contrast. Have a picture of the two sections together:
   
5. 01:15:362 (88) - kat? To me it seems to fit better with previous pattern at 01:13:862 - due to amount of kats it provides.
6. 01:15:862 (468,469,470,471,472,473) - ddk kkd try this out. Seems to be more accurate to the melody.
7. 01:17:862 (489,490) - Swap these notes. To be honest, it doesn't make much sense to suddenly place the don one tick later; it makes the pattern unconsistent and misses the significant bass-beat in the background.
8. 01:18:529 ~ 01:29:195 - How about every second kkk is a k k in the part, so the upcoming one has a little higher impact with a higher density of kats?
9. 01:26:695 (556,557,559,560,562,563) - Consider deleting these notes, so the finishers stay alone and upcoming part has even more impact! The song having no notes at this part would support this idea as well.
10. 01:18:529 ~ 01:39:862 - Additionaly, I believe this part can act as chorus, so kiai would be possible for this one. It is very emphasized due to finisher anyway.
11. 01:41:862 - Patterns like this one I believe, would be better to map with the song as xooxoox. Having own patterns is fine, especially for varity, but I'm not sure if it is a good move doing so when there is a clear sound which goes in this given way.
12. 01:44:529 - ^
13. 01:50:529 (1) - Considering using finishers for these notes due to the sound in the music. Not a must. Just an idea of mine for varity.
14. 01:59:862 - Second half of stream doesn't seem to fit anyhow to the melody and beat, so that's why I suggest you somethign like this:
    
15. 02:22:529 - About the kiai I won't say anything in specific now beside a comment about the 1/6: There are no 1/6, but it can be fine since it is used in a very consistent way. Dispite that, I recommend you to change every note before the 1/6 to a kat, so playing them is way more appealing since switching hand becomes easier. I am talking about patterns like 02:23:779 (17,18) -
16. 02:26:445 (51,52) - Additionally, if people can agree with 1/6, please keep it as dddk and don't change it out of the sudden. Else it can be considered as random as there is no other kddk which would backup this pattern.
17. 02:44:029 (206,207,208,209) - I see no reason for a dkkd here. Keep it consistent or else just use finishers in general. But tbh, I believe finishers would be more appropriate here, e.g. as D k.
18. 02:45:195 ~ 03:06:529 - You have to reconsider the whole 1/6 use. This is a part which would be worth to disqualify for, since you are using 1/6 in a very incosistent way on places where 1/6 are not given. This is very problematic as it makes look like very random, while without, it would be very clean. My recommendation is to either remove all 1/6 or, if you really insist in having some, have them at the end of a section as you did at 02:50:195 (257,258,259,260) - . So your next 1/6 would be at 02:55:529 -.
19. 03:10:362 (451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466) - Just want to mention that I think this fits well, even though it is an odd pattern.
20. 03:27:862 ~ 03:33:195 - Same suggestion as before: every second kkk to k k ? But this time you don't need a kiai.
21. 03:35:695 (67,68,69) - k D please. Having no finisher at the beginning of this section makes upcoming one feel odd.
22. 04:01:195 ~ 04:43:862 - Recommending to cut the stream. Consider following: You have a 42 sec long stream with very complicated patterns and additional 1/6 + the fact that this song is over 5 minutes long which makes missing here a very unforgiving thing. Beside that, I believe cutting it gives out a better structure and makes it not appear to be too monotonous. You can have for example at 04:03:529 - just two 1/2 kats which would fit perfectly to the piano. Later, at the second part of the kiai, you can consider having a longer stream.
23. 04:11:862 ~ 04:17:196 - Second half of the kiai can be improved I would say because, currently the patterns sound very random to me as they don't match the melody so well. Instead of calling out specific things, I will just give you a pattern which might bring up ideas for you for a new structure. Current one I gave is a bit improvised, but still follows at some degree the melody in a consistent way:
    
    
24. 04:42:529 - This time recommending to have no 1/6 at all. After such a long and tiering stream, I think it is unforgiven to have suddenly these 1/6 bursts. It is to me at this point rather a combo breaker and doesn't have much connection to the previous 1/6.
25. 05:07:862 (967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978) - It would be nice if this pattern is like the one at 05:05:195 (945,946,947,948,949,950,951,952,953) - , so you have more consistency. Due to sudden pattern changes it becomes inconcistent and due to the, kinda messy.
26. 05:15:640 (1042) - kat

OnosakiHito wrote:

It is time for M4M!

[ Taiko Detonator]

1. 00:35:529 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129) - I recommend to use kkkkkkd because the sound doesn't give any feedback for another d. Maybe you wanted to create your own rhythm, but currently pattern is odd and to me, not pleasing to play. (03:50:195 - you did it here as well) -OK
2. 00:46:195 (218,219,220,221,222,223,224) - Currently this pattern does somehow fit the melody, but I call this rather clustered. Because of that, you can consider having only 1/4 instead. Maybe this needs more reconsideration from more parties. Simplified the patterns
3. { 00:57:195 ~ 01:02:362 - I suggest to remove all notes and remap this part with 1/1 don and follow higher pitcheds sounds with kat like this. It's not because pattern structure is bad; actually it is quite good. It is rather because you can't emphasize this and upcoming parts well enough. 00:57:195 differs from previous part in pace, yet it contains the same amount of notes which makes everything feel the same.
4. 01:02:529 ~ 01:06:529 - Same here, just with the difference to have a kat every second beat: Picture - checked the patterns, every second beat is k already
   } If you've done what I suggested in these two sections, the upcoming part at 01:07:862 - should be much more emphasized than before, which rises the quality of the beatmap due to having contrast. Have a picture of the two sections together:
   
   Yea, maybe you are right, changed.
5. 01:15:362 (88) - kat? To me it seems to fit better with previous pattern at 01:13:862 - due to amount of kats it provides. made it k kkk k
6. 01:15:862 (468,469,470,471,472,473) - ddk kkd try this out. Seems to be more accurate to the melody. ok
7. 01:17:862 (489,490) - Swap these notes. To be honest, it doesn't make much sense to suddenly place the don one tick later; it makes the pattern unconsistent and misses the significant bass-beat in the background. ok
8. 01:18:529 ~ 01:29:195 - How about every second kkk is a k k in the part, so the upcoming one has a little higher impact with a higher density of kats? Prefer current pattern, fits the song better
9. 01:26:695 (556,557,559,560,562,563) - Consider deleting these notes, so the finishers stay alone and upcoming part has even more impact! The song having no notes at this part would support this idea as well. Made it D k D pattern
10. 01:18:529 ~ 01:39:862 - Additionaly, I believe this part can act as chorus, so kiai would be possible for this one. It is very emphasized due to finisher anyway. Ok
11. 01:41:862 - Patterns like this one I believe, would be better to map with the song as xooxoox. Having own patterns is fine, especially for varity, but I'm not sure if it is a good move doing so when there is a clear sound which goes in this given way.
    ^ Changed a bit, not sure if it is good or not
12. 01:44:529 - ^
13. 01:50:529 (1) - Considering using finishers for these notes due to the sound in the music. Not a must. Just an idea of mine for varity. sure
14. 01:59:862 - Second half of stream doesn't seem to fit anyhow to the melody and beat, so that's why I suggest you somethign like this:
    ok
15. 02:22:529 - About the kiai I won't say anything in specific now beside a comment about the 1/6: There are no 1/6, but it can be fine since it is used in a very consistent way. Dispite that, I recommend you to change every note before the 1/6 to a kat, so playing them is way more appealing since switching hand becomes easier. I am talking about patterns like 02:23:779 (17,18) I think the current 1/6 patterns are good enough
16. 02:26:445 (51,52) - Additionally, if people can agree with 1/6, please keep it as ddd k and don't change it out of the sudden. Else it can be considered as random as there is no other kddk which would backup this pattern. That k is put because the SE pitch there is not same as others.
17. 02:44:029 (206,207,208,209) - I see no reason for a dkkd here. Keep it consistent or else just use finishers in general. But tbh, I believe finishers would be more appropriate here, e.g. as D k. I would like to end the stream with a d, ending this stream with a k is too awkward for me.
18. 02:45:195 ~ 03:06:529 - You have to reconsider the whole 1/6 use. This is a part which would be worth to disqualify for, since you are using 1/6 in a very incosistent way on places where 1/6 are not given. This is very problematic as it makes look like very random, while without, it would be very clean. My recommendation is to either remove all 1/6 or, if you really insist in having some, have them at the end of a section as you did at 02:50:195 (257,258,259,260) - . So your next 1/6 would be at 02:55:529 -.
    I reduced some 1/6 here
19. 03:10:362 (451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466) - Just want to mention that I think this fits well, even though it is an odd pattern. thx
20. 03:27:862 ~ 03:33:195 - Same suggestion as before: every second kkk to k k ? But this time you don't need a kiai. No change, reason mentioned
21. 03:35:695 (67,68,69) - k D please. Having no finisher at the beginning of this section makes upcoming one feel odd. Fixed with my own way
22. 04:01:195 ~ 04:43:862 - Recommending to cut the stream. Consider following: You have a 42 sec long stream with very complicated patterns and additional 1/6 + the fact that this song is over 5 minutes long which makes missing here a very unforgiving thing. Beside that, I believe cutting it gives out a better structure and makes it not appear to be too monotonous. You can have for example at 04:03:529 - just two 1/2 kats which would fit perfectly to the piano. Later, at the second part of the kiai, you can consider having a longer stream. I prefer making this whole kiai as stream, because the SE are given out non-stop which stream would fit more than cutting the stream.
23. 04:11:862 ~ 04:17:196 - Second half of the kiai can be improved I would say because, currently the patterns sound very random to me as they don't match the melody so well. Instead of calling out specific things, I will just give you a pattern which might bring up ideas for you for a new structure. Current one I gave is a bit improvised, but still follows at some degree the melody in a consistent way:
    
    
    I think 04:13:862 (398) - 04:14:529 (406) is the main problem ,fixed that place, but others are fine to me.
24. 04:42:529 - This time recommending to have no 1/6 at all. After such a long and tiering stream, I think it is unforgiven to have suddenly these 1/6 bursts. It is to me at this point rather a combo breaker and doesn't have much connection to the previous 1/6. There are very strong sound in the background music therefore I place these 1/6s
25. 05:07:862 (967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978) - It would be nice if this pattern is like the one at 05:05:195 (945,946,947,948,949,950,951,952,953) - , so you have more consistency. Due to sudden pattern changes it becomes inconcistent and due to the, kinda messy. Tried to fix this
26. 05:15:640 (1042) - kat OK

That's all about it from my side. I do say the map has potential. Many of the patterns you made are consistent and have an understandable connection to each other. Maybe the 1/6 can be debated about and I am sure there should be some discussion about it, but for now I believe, as long as they are consistent and not too hard, it should be fine. Some other patterns on the other hand need to be reconsidered, especially when it is about their density. What the map lacks most in some parts is contrast which give certain parts more or less impact.

For now I wish you good luck!

Ppus wrote:

[General]

I think you can change diff. name for inner oni or ura oni. Custom diff names are allowed in marathon
and, change OD to 6 or 5. Nah, 6.5 for challenge(Actually I plan to increase it to 7.5)

[Taiko Detonator]

00:27:445 - just add one d here For constant 3plets here and maintain consistency with the patterns after, rejected

00:35:695 (126,127,128,129) - instead of kkkd just put dddd
Rejected, does not give out lower pitch SE here
00:46:195 (218,219,220,221,222,223,224) - well... it's a good pattern, but... try change to dddkkkd
Prefer current one , sorry

01:47:445 (722) - k
does not match the SE, rejected
02:32:584 (132,133,134) - kkd this stream it's the because of 7*
Nope, SE are increasing pitch here. dkkd is for turning pitch
02:44:029 (206,207,208,209) - dddk
pitch are slightly high here, kkk fits more.
03:10:695 (458) - k I'll think about this

03:35:695 - kkd ddkkd weird, but I changed it to dkkdk

05:04:779 (938) - k
Don't see a point to change this note. Rejected

Good luck with rank!!!
short mod ;w;

Backfire wrote:

[General]

HP4 maybe? This is a very long map with lots of notes and the stream at the end will probably lead to many misses. I think HP4 helps them pass it easier.

lel why everyone ask me for HP change w, HP5 is for more challenging to pass map
[Taiko Detonator]

02:34:529 - until 02:42:529 - needs some good tweaks, it currently sounds and plays really messy. This part is a rest area
02:34:862 - k k k kkd
02:36:195 - k k kkkkd
02:37:529 - k k k kkd
^I am following drum sound here, and the drum does not have any pitch change, I'll reject all 3
02:38:695 - d kdk d kdk d nice, changed
02:39:862 - k ddk ddkkddk k I prefer not to use 3plets+ in this part, rejected
02:41:195 - d ddk kkkkd k d ^
Then the section is fine. I can explain them mostly as, well, it needs to be more k focused instead of don, and there is kind of messy use of finishers. I suggest NOT using finishers for this section because it becomes too hard to use them unless you sacrifice 1/4.
Oh, I see, removed all finishers.
03:39:862 - D here, because there is a clear cymbal crash, but also, delete this note here 03:40:029 - because it kind of clashes with that idea.
1st accept. 2nd rejected, I want to maintain the ddkdddkd... pattern here

04:48:529 - dkddk kkd because of the music here, also apply this to 04:53:862 - by making the stream dkddkdk One of the best maps ever made period.
Changed dkddk only

Thanks for mod, kds given