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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 05. Juni 2017 at 00:39:26

Artist: suzumu feat.soraru
Title: Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation
Source: ダンガンロンパ The Animation
Tags: 希望の学園と絶望の高校生 danganronpa kibou no gakuen to zetsubou no koukousei ending thenutritiousguy tng vulkin
BPM: 205
Filesize: 2310kb
Play Time: 01:24
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Do you choose Hope or Despair?


 
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Thumbnails like this are so creative. Do you have the source?
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Thumbnails like this are so creative. Do you have the source?

Unfortunately no, I took it from Deif's mapset https://osu.ppy.sh/s/367646

Also, I changed to a better fitting, the previously doesn't suits to taiko.
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Hello~

NM.

Keep in mind, these are my suggestions, don't change something I mentioned unless it seems good to you! :)

Kantan
00:38:516 - Sounds weird to not have a note on this beat. Consider adding a d.
01:04:565 (122,123) - These two k's sound weird. I think d k sounds better.


Futsuu
00:58:565 (193) - Change to d. Having k after the previous k's sounds weird. (It'd fit better if you put a k at 00:58:272 - but that might be one too many notes for the phrase.)


Muzukashii
Looks fine.


Oni
00:12:028 (79) - Change to d. Sounds better, and it feels more natural for the upcoming D.


Sorry I didn't have a whole lot to say. I also have a terrible headache right now, but I wanted to get this done. ;;
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Hello~

NM.

Keep in mind, these are my suggestions, don't change something I mentioned unless it seems good to you! :)

Kantan
00:38:516 - Sounds weird to not have a note on this beat. Consider adding a d. I held this as simple as possible by following the "main beat" from the vocals, no addition here.
01:04:565 (122,123) - These two k's sound weird. I think d k sounds better. Made own changes here by moving 01:04:857 (123) - 1/2 beat forward.


Futsuu
00:58:565 (193) - Change to d. Having k after the previous k's sounds weird. (It'd fit better if you put a k at 00:58:272 - but that might be one too many notes for the phrase.) Yup.


Muzukashii
Looks fine.


Oni
00:12:028 (79) - Change to d. Sounds better, and it feels more natural for the upcoming D. Gotta try this out and see what other users thinks bout it, changed.


Sorry I didn't have a whole lot to say. I also have a terrible headache right now, but I wanted to get this done. ;;


thanks a lot
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Hi, from my modding queue. M4M (my map): https://osu.ppy.sh/s/432322


General

HP setting is not appropriate:

The easier the difficulties are, the higher their HP are.

HP:
Kantan = 7
Futsuu = 6
Muzukashii =5
Oni = 5/6 <-- 6 is for a more challenging HP setting.

Oni

> 00:07:272 (41) - shift it to 00:07:418 - for a better pattern. You used the similar in 00:06:174 (33,34,35) - and 00:08:516 (49,50,51) - .

> 00:09:321 (56,57) - ctrl+G, considering the pitches of the sfx. In case you want to emphasize the kkkkkk, you may still keep 00:09:394 (57) - as d. That's fine though.

> 00:47:004 (307) - it should be d because 00:46:711 (304,306,307) - sounds like k k d. If you adopt it, you will find that another mono-d-5-plets repeated. I suggest that change 00:47:223 (310) - to k. I hear a low drum hit at 00:47:296 (311) - which is d, so that 00:47:223 (310) - being k can emphasize 00:47:296 (311) - . If you do not like dddkd, then nvm.

> 00:56:077 (373) - change to d. It sounds better according to the pitch.

> 00:56:809 (378) - change to K, same reason as above

> The kiai session is relatively too plain comparing to the introduction or the other normal sessions. More complicated notes patterns and a higher notes density are expected in Kiai. ( Please check Muzukashii * for more detail)

> 01:00:321 (400,401,402) - / 01:09:687 (460,461,462) - You can use Finishes here.


Muzukashii

> 00:09:101 (37) - this slider contains two different sfx and I feel really weird. Maybe you would like try these (00:09:101 (37) - ):
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> 00:28:272 - 00:28:345 - d d should be put here. There are two reasons for this suggestion, firstly, the ends of each 8 bars fills up with at least 4 notes, for instance, 00:21:248 (103,104,105,106) - , 00:23:589 (113,114,115,116) - ); secondly, this suggestion is as same as the one in Oni at the same timing.

> 01:09:247 (308,309,310,311,312,313) - this pattern should be similar to the previous one (00:59:589 (263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270) - ), and vice versa.

*I prefer using a simplier pattern because you did keep Kiai relatively clean and clear in Oni (in case you keep it clean). Hence, for a better notes spread, Muzu should also share a similar atmosphere, right? Also, please check the consistencies of the uses of colour of the notes with Oni.


Futsuu

> It seems fine, but the SR rating is broken despite a huge difference form Muzukashii. Perhaps some off-beat patterns are used so that the SR sys. responded like it poorly.


Kantan

** SR MUST <2 (the lowest difficulty among a mapset must be SR<2 **

> Note density is slightly too high in Kantan. That's why the SR is beyond 2*.

> 00:09:101 (16) - It can be removed because that 1/2 ready stage at 00:09:833 - is not enough for Kantan level player.

> 00:18:614 (32) - remove this note, the density around this note is too high.

> 00:21:248 (37) - / 00:23:589 (41) - / 00:25:931 (45) - / 00:28:272 (50) - can be removed, same reason as above.

> 00:28:711 (51) - from this note onwards, the notes patterns are not well set. You can see that in Futsuu, you have k between the D(s). Meanwhile, you do not put a single k in Kantan. That's not a wise way to map imo.

00:30:028 (52) - the positions like this should have a k on it. A single k put can be a huge difference already. I am not going to make a long list here. Please refer to your own Futsuu.

** 1/2 are prohibited in Kantan ** Check the Kiai session

> 00:57:833 (100,101) - / 01:00:174 (106,107) - / .... no 1/2 plz... You should delete the off-beat patterns because they are just over-killing for Kantan level players.

I hope my mod is helpful. :)
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M4M, sorry for delay :? university work is keeping me busy.
d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue note

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General
3/2 breaks op for SR rofl
Increase HP settings?

Kantan
00:09:101 (16) - Given that this is the equivalent of a 205 1/4 stream, even though it is optional to hit, you could shorten it to give the player a bigger gap to the next note, say 1/1. That's still a fairly short break at this bpm, just under 300 milliseconds. Or maybe even just delete the slider, will beginners be streaming 205 anyway?
00:13:931 (24) - Delete to give a bigger break for the player? I don't really think these notes would be necessary. Although the k k d d... does get monotonous. I think given the bpm of the song, the notes on this beat and the other corresponding ones throughout the song could be removed to give players longer breaks. 00:18:614 (33) is another one, etc. Don't forget the ones after kiai.
00:28:711 - holy moly one long break from here, but everything else is like 3/2 or 1/1. imo you could use more 2/1 breaks given the high bpm in this Kantan, maybe try something like this (55 is on the green line):
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This rhythm provides players with 2/1 breaks and goes with vocals to avoid overly long breaks but still provide adequate breaks between notes for lower-level players.
00:57:833 (103) - This probably shouldn't be here at all. 1/2 at this bpm is a bit harsh for a Kantan-level player. I'd say with all the 1/2 doubles you should probably remove the first of the two notes.
01:14:662 (147) - Another slider.

Futsuu
00:09:101 (26) - Still unsure about the necessity of a slider here. Maybe just have a note at 00:09:540 where the sound changes.
01:14:662 (230) - Another slider.
01:19:638 (247) - Delete? For consistency with the beginning, as well as keeping the 1/2 patterns short because this is a decently high bpm for players of this level.
On its own its a fun diff but idk spread is trippy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you probably have a better idea of how to fix it than I do

Muzukashii
00:11:150 (45) - Change to D? I'd say make all of these notes which end each of these small segments as a D EXCEPT for the ones which land on this sound at 00:13:492 (59) which would be K, so it differentiates between the lower and higher pitched sounds.
00:13:931 (61) - Change to k? Matches the pitch of the sounds and is consistent with Oni.
00:27:979 (124,125) - I get the point of changing it from k d to d k (when comparing to the previous one at 00:27:979 (124,125) - ) given the additional drumroll but I still think it fits better as k d due to the sound you're actually following (aka not the drumroll). Plus, consistency with Oni.
00:33:979 - Missing d here? I'm going off how you did it at 00:31:638 (136).
00:59:443 - Missing d again? Had one at 00:57:101 (239).

Oni
00:10:711 (68,69,70,71,72) - Idk about kkdkk here, with k on higher pitch and lower pitch kkkdk would probably be correct since the first and third notes have the same pitch but that's ugly so maybe kkddk? And this can be applied to all occurrences.
01:02:223 (410) - Change to d? Nothing to suggest a k here, the pitch of vocal is the same as 01:01:492 (406) - which is a d too.


Hope it helps :D
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Hi, from my modding queue. M4M (my map): https://osu.ppy.sh/s/432322


General

HP setting is not appropriate:

The easier the difficulties are, the higher their HP are. Changed that exactly like that.

HP:
Kantan = 7
Futsuu = 6
Muzukashii =5
Oni = 5/6 <-- 6 is for a more challenging HP setting.

Oni

> 00:07:272 (41) - shift it to 00:07:418 - for a better pattern. You used the similar in 00:06:174 (33,34,35) - and 00:08:516 (49,50,51) - . That is true but I wanted to emphasize the sound on 00:07:199 (40) - with a k triplet. No changes here.

> 00:09:321 (56,57) - ctrl+G, considering the pitches of the sfx. In case you want to emphasize the kkkkkk, you may still keep 00:09:394 (57) - as d. That's fine though. I keep it as ddkkd, also because I think that ddkdk is harder than ddkkd to play and might be too hard with the stream after.

> 00:47:004 (307) - it should be d because 00:46:711 (304,306,307) - sounds like k k d. If you adopt it, you will find that another mono-d-5-plets repeated. I suggest that change 00:47:223 (310) - to k. I hear a low drum hit at 00:47:296 (311) - which is d, so that 00:47:223 (310) - being k can emphasize 00:47:296 (311) - . If you do not like dddkd, then nvm. I really don't like dddkd here and uh.. I try k k d out, prefered k d k before but that idea sounds okay. Also changed 307 to d.

> 00:56:077 (373) - change to d. It sounds better according to the pitch. Sounds about right, changed.

> 00:56:809 (378) - change to K, same reason as above I used to have them as K but I find D is stronger in that case.

> The kiai session is relatively too plain comparing to the introduction or the other normal sessions. More complicated notes patterns and a higher notes density are expected in Kiai. ( Please check Muzukashii * for more detail) Having a higher note density is possible - I also did that - more complicated pattern rather not. The most complex parts are 00:09:101 (53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - (which got nerfed already for the sake of spread) and the kkdkk I use, and they're more than enough, I also think the empty 1/1 parts outside of the Kiai which works as small breaks are well used so I will keep them all.

> 01:00:321 (400,401,402) - / 01:09:687 (460,461,462) - You can use Finishes here. That sounds actually really good! Changed.


Muzukashii

> 00:09:101 (37) - this slider contains two different sfx and I feel really weird. Maybe you would like try these (00:09:101 (37) - ): I tried it out several times but it feels by far more weird after the change, mostly because of the short lenght because it doesn't really fits here. I keep it the same how it is now.
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> 00:28:272 - 00:28:345 - d d should be put here. There are two reasons for this suggestion, firstly, the ends of each 8 bars fills up with at least 4 notes, for instance, 00:21:248 (103,104,105,106) - , 00:23:589 (113,114,115,116) - ); secondly, this suggestion is as same as the one in Oni at the same timing. Changed 00:28:272 (125) - to d, the reason why I do not add d on 00:28:418 - is the emphasis I want to hold on 00:28:565 (126) - due vocals.

> 01:09:247 (308,309,310,311,312,313) - this pattern should be similar to the previous one (00:59:589 (263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270) - ), and vice versa. ????? I think something got messed up with copying the hitobjects.

*I prefer using a simplier pattern because you did keep Kiai relatively clean and clear in Oni (in case you keep it clean). Hence, for a better notes spread, Muzu should also share a similar atmosphere, right? Also, please check the consistencies of the uses of colour of the notes with Oni. Replied above.


Futsuu

> It seems fine, but the SR rating is broken despite a huge difference form Muzukashii. Perhaps some off-beat patterns are used so that the SR sys. responded like it poorly. I can't tell you how much I suffer by the SR in this map.


Kantan

** SR MUST <2 (the lowest difficulty among a mapset must be SR<2 ** please end me

> Note density is slightly too high in Kantan. That's why the SR is beyond 2*.

> 00:09:101 (16) - It can be removed because that 1/2 ready stage at 00:09:833 - is not enough for Kantan level player. Replaced it with a d note, feels like I need something here.

> 00:18:614 (32) - remove this note, the density around this note is too high. You're the boss.

> 00:21:248 (37) - / 00:23:589 (41) - / 00:25:931 (45) - / 00:28:272 (50) - can be removed, same reason as above. Sounds really really weird but I guess that works well here.

> 00:28:711 (51) - from this note onwards, the notes patterns are not well set. You can see that in Futsuu, you have k between the D(s). Meanwhile, you do not put a single k in Kantan. That's not a wise way to map imo.

00:30:028 (52) - the positions like this should have a k on it. A single k put can be a huge difference already. I am not going to make a long list here. Please refer to your own Futsuu. Yeah, added them.

** 1/2 are prohibited in Kantan ** Check the Kiai session

> 00:57:833 (100,101) - / 01:00:174 (106,107) - / .... no 1/2 plz... You should delete the off-beat patterns because they are just over-killing for Kantan level players. Removed them all.

I hope my mod is helpful. :)
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Can I make a 4K Mania set for this? :O
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lol stefan you opt to let another mapper to make a Kantan for you :D

Wise choice!
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"hardest kantan" -stefan
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tbh i can make my kantan a bit easier even lol
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M4M, sorry for delay :? university work is keeping me busy. No need to feel sorry, I am by my own late af.
d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue note

mod
General
3/2 breaks op for SR rofl
Increase HP settings? Did that in the last mod.

Futsuu
00:09:101 (26) - Still unsure about the necessity of a slider here. Maybe just have a note at 00:09:540 where the sound changes. It replaces the stream pattern from the Oni pretty well.
01:14:662 (230) - Another slider. ^
01:19:638 (247) - Delete? For consistency with the beginning, as well as keeping the 1/2 patterns short because this is a decently high bpm for players of this level. Okidoki.
On its own its a fun diff but idk spread is trippy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you probably have a better idea of how to fix it than I do I blame the song, that's my solution.

Muzukashii
00:11:150 (45) - Change to D? I'd say make all of these notes which end each of these small segments as a D EXCEPT for the ones which land on this sound at 00:13:492 (59) which would be K, so it differentiates between the lower and higher pitched sounds. Chnaged.
00:13:931 (61) - Change to k? Matches the pitch of the sounds and is consistent with Oni. Yup.
00:27:979 (124,125) - I get the point of changing it from k d to d k (when comparing to the previous one at 00:27:979 (124,125) - ) given the additional drumroll but I still think it fits better as k d due to the sound you're actually following (aka not the drumroll). Plus, consistency with Oni. Okay.
00:33:979 - Missing d here? I'm going off how you did it at 00:31:638 (136). That's fine, I rather want to hold a short break here.
00:59:443 - Missing d again? Had one at 00:57:101 (239). Everything's fine here.

Oni
00:10:711 (68,69,70,71,72) - Idk about kkdkk here, with k on higher pitch and lower pitch kkkdk would probably be correct since the first and third notes have the same pitch but that's ugly so maybe kkddk? And this can be applied to all occurrences. I think kkddk can work here too, changed it.
01:02:223 (410) - Change to d? Nothing to suggest a k here, the pitch of vocal is the same as 01:01:492 (406) - which is a d too. (406) works different that (410) since (406) emphasize the background music much more with D than with K, no change here.


Hope it helps :D

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"hardest kantan" -stefan

YOU HAVE NO PROOFS

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lol stefan you opt to let another mapper to make a Kantan for you :D

Wise choice!

Because I decided to let someone good map it, that's the reason.

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Can I make a 4K Mania set for this? :O

I really thought about your request but I deny it because I want to focus fully on my content. Sorry.
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