This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 30 January 2016 at 21:22:41

Artist: TOKIO
Title: ding-dong
Tags: glider BARGAINS KAM 城島 茂 Jōshima Joushima Shigeru 長瀬 智也 Nagase Tomoya 松岡 昌宏 Matsuoka Masahiro 国分 太一 Kokubun Taichi 山口 達也 Yamaguchi Tatsuya
BPM: 90
Filesize: 8329kb
Play Time: 03:59
Difficulties Available:

1. Futsuu (1.62 stars, 398 notes)
2. Kantan (1.09 stars, 221 notes)
3. Muzukashii (2.32 stars, 635 notes)
4. Oni (3.12 stars, 913 notes)

Download: TOKIO - ding-dong
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this is not gunther

Winter queue!

[General]

Recheck timing, it seems to have a lot of little BPM changes or a different BPM

Song is quite loud so you can raise volume by ~10% I think
00:23:950 - y u no kiai time
00:23:950 - is there a reason for this red line?
02:44:930 - ^
00:42:950 - This line should be 00:38:950 - here! Don't forget to add a new green line to end the kiai (refer to 02:20:930 - )
01:33:950 - This line should be 01:29:950 - here! ^

[All diffs]

00:50:950 - Why is this not a big note while 00:46:950 - is? Either make it a big note on both, or remove it on 00:46:950 -

[Kantan]

02:27:930 (6) - Not really recommended to have such short sliders in general and especially not in Kantan. Pretty sure it's better for you to have notes here instead! (Either a single kat or two 1/1 kats)
02:30:930 (8) - And while this one is fine, considering how Futsuu is mapped it would probably be better to have notes here as well.

[Futsuu]

Futsuu needs a few more bigger breaks, so removing 00:39:950 (37) - wouldn't be a bad idea.
01:30:950 (31,32) - ^
02:21:930 (2) - ^
03:48:910 (37) - ^ (consistency)

00:51:450 - I think it's appropriate to add a don here since the vocals kinda demand that. Wouldn't be too much notes I think
00:53:450 - ^
01:01:450 (5,6,7) - Change to kdd? Then you would keep the kat rhythm consistent and have a clear vocal sound (01:00:950 (4,6,7) - would all be vocal dons, refer to 01:05:450 (12,13,14) - )
03:31:410 (4,5,6,7,8) - Would suggest k kkk d here since the trumpet pitch goes down at the end and you can then have the normal kat rhythm again

[Muzukashii]

00:23:450 (10,11,12) - Could change this to kat so 00:23:950 (1) - can be a comfortable big don
00:58:075 (34) - Remove to help spread a bit (big difference to Futsuu in the whole part)
01:14:450 (42,43,44) - Same as first suggestion
01:48:700 - Add don for consistency with 00:57:700 -
01:53:200 (11) - Maybe change to kat to have a difference to 01:52:700 (9,10) - these (don vocals)?
01:57:200 (23) - ^
02:05:450 (46,47,48) - Same as first suggestion
02:57:930 (15,16,17,18,19,20) - ddd kkk ^?
03:12:930 (52,53,54,55,56,57,1) - ^
02:47:805 - Map is very dense after this, there's no breaks anymore which shouldn't happen. Find at least one spot to have a 2/1 break, maybe consistent with the other kiais?

[Oni]

Generally I feel like some 1/4 aren't needed (01:17:950 (214,215,216) - ) and hurt the spread a bit - the gap to Muzukashii is quite big. Maybe reconsider some.




Nice set overall, hope you can fix timing and get this ranked : D

Nwolf wrote:

Winter queue!

[General]

Recheck timing, it seems to have a lot of little BPM changes or a different BPM i think so.. but the song is slow and hard to notice bpm change. especially in the intro. will try to ask someone

Song is quite loud so you can raise volume by ~10% I think i think it's fine because you can adjust music and hitsound volume when playing
00:23:950 - y u no kiai time added
00:23:950 - is there a reason for this red line? to make the crash sound if you put nightcore mode in a good timing. but i guess not really needed..
02:44:930 - ^
00:42:950 - This line should be 00:38:950 - here! Don't forget to add a new green line to end the kiai (refer to 02:20:930 - ) yes
01:33:950 - This line should be 01:29:950 - here! ^ ^

[All diffs]

00:50:950 - Why is this not a big note while 00:46:950 - is? Either make it a big note on both, or remove it on 00:46:950 - i put finisher at 00:46:950 - because vocal sound is similar with 00:42:950 -

[Kantan]

02:27:930 (6) - Not really recommended to have such short sliders in general and especially not in Kantan. Pretty sure it's better for you to have notes here instead! (Either a single kat or two 1/1 kats) changed into 1 kat
02:30:930 (8) - And while this one is fine, considering how Futsuu is mapped it would probably be better to have notes here as well. mapped

[Futsuu]

Futsuu needs a few more bigger breaks, so removing 00:39:950 (37) - wouldn't be a bad idea.
01:30:950 (31,32) - ^
02:21:930 (2) - ^
03:48:910 (37) - ^ (consistency)
removed

00:51:450 - I think it's appropriate to add a don here since the vocals kinda demand that. Wouldn't be too much notes I think
00:53:450 - ^ yes. added.
01:01:450 (5,6,7) - Change to kdd? Then you would keep the kat rhythm consistent and have a clear vocal sound (01:00:950 (4,6,7) - would all be vocal dons, refer to 01:05:450 (12,13,14) - ) ye
03:31:410 (4,5,6,7,8) - Would suggest k kkk d here since the trumpet pitch goes down at the end and you can then have the normal kat rhythm again ^

[Muzukashii]

00:23:450 (10,11,12) - Could change this to kat so 00:23:950 (1) - can be a comfortable big don d is fine since there is low bass sound and to unify with oni
00:58:075 (34) - Remove to help spread a bit (big difference to Futsuu in the whole part) yes
01:14:450 (42,43,44) - Same as first suggestion same too
01:48:700 - Add don for consistency with 00:57:700 - yes
01:53:200 (11) - Maybe change to kat to have a difference to 01:52:700 (9,10) - these (don vocals)?
01:57:200 (23) - ^ sounds good
02:05:450 (46,47,48) - Same as first suggestion
02:57:930 (15,16,17,18,19,20) - ddd kkk ^?
03:12:930 (52,53,54,55,56,57,1) - ^ same
02:47:805 - Map is very dense after this, there's no breaks anymore which shouldn't happen. Find at least one spot to have a 2/1 break, maybe consistent with the other kiais? added break at 03:11:430 - and 03:33:410 -

[Oni]

Generally I feel like some 1/4 aren't needed (01:17:950 (214,215,216) - ) and hurt the spread a bit - the gap to Muzukashii is quite big. Maybe reconsider some.i think it's fine to have larger gap to highest diff. will consider




Nice set overall, hope you can fix timing and get this ranked : D

thanks a lot

BPM just needed to be slightly faster. Having plain 120 would need to make slight offsets adjustments every few stanzas. The section a capella should be accurate enough:



Hope it helps!

timing implemented. thank you very much! it helped.

tna man here

[General]

1. Very first red line seems a little late. 1265 sounds right to me, but I am a lunatic so...
   
   this is great
   reminds me of lepi trying to not make songs like these boring
   
   i wanted some D K D K for the ding dongs though.....

[Oni]

1. 03:18:400 (11) - k? Normally it's ddd k, so it being different here caught my ear.
2. 03:51:725 (4) - d? Technically fits better and prevents it from being a choke spot for newer players lolol.

[Muzukashii]

1. HP5.5? The length of the song will probably make the upwards HP much smaller.
   
2. 00:52:690 - maybe add a d to get it close to Oni? A bit simple in comparison. 00:54:689 too.
3. 01:13:435 (39) - You've had breaks constantly, but around here you start to have less. Move this to 01:13:685 to create one without sounding empty? I think d k d ddd would sound nice in that case.
4. 01:22:182 - maybe a d here to touch the difficulty of Oni a little and make it closer to the first kiai.
5. 02:04:421 (43) - Same as the note at 01:13:435. A break leading into kiai is always nice when kiai has little to no breaks.
6. 02:25:414 (16) - Deleting this for a break would make sense since normally vocals start here and make a break.
   
7. A break during kiais wouldn't hurt, but it kinda makes the diff head close to Futsuu...

[Futsuu]

1. HP 6?
   
2. 03:36:645 (16) - Secretly I want this to be kat in all diffs but then it won't accentuate the snare... rip

[Kantan]

1. 01:13:435 (14) - Probably not a necessary note.
2. 01:23:932 (12) - I don't know, you could add a break BEFORE kiai, or put one here in the middle by deleting this. Either way it'd be nice to have a 4/1 somewhere.
3. 02:14:918 (12) - ^ Same here
4. A 4/1 is surely needed at the last kiai. One is fine because of the difficulty raising is a theme, but since you get into 5 note long stuff, maybe 2 would be nice.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

tna man here

[General]

1. Very first red line seems a little late. 1265 sounds right to me, but I am a lunatic so... hmm deif agreed with current offset. i'll keep it for now
   
   this is great
   reminds me of lepi trying to not make songs like these boring thanks! i'm still a non-existence when he active mapping tho ww
   
   i wanted some D K D K for the ding dongs though.....

[Oni]

1. 03:18:400 (11) - k? Normally it's ddd k, so it being different here caught my ear.sounds good!
2. 03:51:725 (4) - d? Technically fits better and prevents it from being a choke spot for newer players lolol. lolol yeah but k sounds better and more fits to the drum, so prepare to be chocked in the last!

[Muzukashii]

1. HP5.5? The length of the song will probably make the upwards HP much smaller.ok
   
2. 00:52:690 - maybe add a d to get it close to Oni? A bit simple in comparison. 00:54:689 too. fixed
3. 01:13:435 (39) - You've had breaks constantly, but around here you start to have less. Move this to 01:13:685 to create one without sounding empty? I think d k d ddd would sound nice in that case. deleted 01:11:435 (34) - instead
4. 01:22:182 - maybe a d here to touch the difficulty of Oni a little and make it closer to the first kiai. fixed
5. 02:04:421 (43) - Same as the note at 01:13:435. A break leading into kiai is always nice when kiai has little to no breaks. ^
6. 02:25:414 (16) - Deleting this for a break would make sense since normally vocals start here and make a break. actually there is no vocal there. but a break after the kiai sounds good. fixed.
   
7. A break during kiais wouldn't hurt, but it kinda makes the diff head close to Futsuu... yeah and i want to make the kiai the most intense part

[Futsuu]

1. HP 6? ok
   
2. 03:36:645 (16) - Secretly I want this to be kat in all diffs but then it won't accentuate the snare... rip RIP

[Kantan]

1. 01:13:435 (14) - Probably not a necessary note sure
2. 01:23:932 (12) - I don't know, you could add a break BEFORE kiai, or put one here in the middle by deleting this. Either way it'd be nice to have a 4/1 somewhere. fixed
3. 02:14:918 (12) - ^ Same here ^
4. A 4/1 is surely needed at the last kiai. One is fine because of the difficulty raising is a theme, but since you get into 5 note long stuff, maybe 2 would be nice. added 4/1 break at 03:07:903 - and 03:22:899 -

thanks for mod :3

+added 'Joushima' to the Tags, as another method of romanising '城島'.

/summon someone

Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested in TNA queue.

• [General]

1. 00:23:947 - you may set volume to 80% like the other kiais.
2. 03:52:891 (1) - ending the spinner at 03:59:889 - sounds better as music stops around there.

• [Kantan]

1. 00:24:947 (2) - it would be better to delete this note and move 00:26:447 (4) - to 00:27:447 - to make the same break like the second and third kiai.
2. 00:33:945 (12) - consider changing this note to d for lower-pitched vocal compared to 00:34:445 (13,14) - ?
3. 00:46:941 (4) - maybe remove finish ? The sound is less stressed than 00:42:942 (1) -
4. 01:02:937 (4) - same as ^
5. 01:27:931 (15) - d as you did at 00:36:944 (16) - for consistency ?
6. 01:37:927 (5) - same as 00:46:941 (4) -
7. 01:53:923 (5) - same as ^
8. 02:04:920 (16,17) - maybe k as you did in Futsuu ?
9. 02:15:918 (11) - it would be better if you make this note the same as 01:24:932 (11) - .
10. 02:32:912 (11) - same as 00:46:941 (4) -
11. 03:03:904 (7) - d would sound nicer as it has the same pitch as 03:02:905 (6) -
12. 03:09:403 (13) - maybe k here to make it consistent with 00:34:445 (13) - ?
13. 03:23:899 (9) - same as 00:33:945 (12) -
14. 03:26:898 (13) - same as 01:27:931 (15) -
15. 03:35:896 (7) - changing this note to d would help reflect the pitch increase across 03:35:896 (7,8) -
16. 03:52:391 (25) - maybe D in contrast to the previous K K at 03:50:892 (23,24) - ? This would fit the pitch drop nicely imo.

• [Futsuu]

1. 00:16:616 (14) - delete this note ? Currently this part is exactly the same as Muzukashii.
2. 00:27:946 (16,17,18,19,20) - maybe try d k d k k ? This would match the pitch changes in a way better.
3. 00:31:446 (23) - consider changing this note to k to follow the snare like you did at 01:22:432 (16) - ?
4. 00:46:941 (7) - same as Kantan
5. 01:02:937 (8) - ^
6. 01:37:927 (8) and 01:53:923 (9) - ^
7. 01:56:673 (14) - you can change this note to d for a bit more variation.
8. 02:15:918 (21,22) - similar to Kantan, it would be better to swap these notes to d k for the increase in vocal pitch.
9. 02:32:413 (21) - you may delete this note for a 2/1 break right after the complex pattern at 02:30:913 (17,18,19,20) -
10. 02:32:912 (22) - same as Kantan
11. 03:11:902 - consider adding k here for the noticeable beat ?
12. 03:34:396 (10,12) - swapping these notes to k d would accompany the pitch drop well.
13. 03:40:145 (23) - d here would help emphasize the high-pitched trumpet at 03:40:395 (24) -
14. 03:52:391 (43) - same as Kantan

• [Muzukashii]

1. 00:23:947 (1) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
2. 00:46:941 (10) - same as Kantan
3. From 00:50:940 to 00:56:939 - consider reforming the pattern like this to fit the vocal ? (cursor at 00:53:940 - )
4. 01:02:937 (12) - same as 00:46:941 (10) -
5. 01:37:927 (11) - ^
6. 01:46:925 (32,33,34,35) - maybe make it the same as 00:55:939 (30,31,32) - for consistency ?
7. 01:53:923 (13) - same as 00:46:941 (10) -
8. 02:04:671 (43) - move to 02:04:421 - and change to k, then change 02:04:920 (44) - to d ? This would be easier to follow imo.
9. 02:21:415 (2,4) - I think you need to delete these notes as the jump from Futsuu here is rather big currently.
10. 02:32:912 (40) - same as Kantan
11. 03:13:902 (1) - same as 00:23:947 (1) -
12. 03:21:899 (31) - ^
13. 03:39:645 (35) - changing this note to k would fit the pitch increase well.
14. 03:52:391 (74) - same as Kantan

• [Oni]

1. 00:19:950 - you may remove this timing point as it is not in use.
2. 00:36:694 (51,52,53) - kdk would follow the vocal in a way better as the pitch at 00:30:821 (29) - is lower.
3. 00:46:941 (91) and 01:02:937 (153) - same as Kantan
4. 01:27:681 (257,258,259) - same as 00:36:694 (51,52,53) -
5. 01:53:923 (361) - same as Kantan
6. 02:18:667 (93,94,95) - same as 00:36:694 (51,52,53) -
7. 02:24:914 (9) - althrough this pattern is rankable, I would recommend changing this note to k for a better playability. In fact it appears a way too sudden and you used a small note at 02:28:913 (26) - as well.
8. 03:09:903 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe try kdkkk here ? The last three beats are really high-pitched.
9. 03:11:652 (8,9,10) - same as 00:36:694 (51,52,53) -
10. 03:26:648 (52,53,54) - ^
11. 03:42:519 (131) and 03:44:768 (145) - these notes could be deleted. They sound a bit unnecessary and bring too much pace to this part.
12. 03:44:144 (140) - if you apply ^ , it would sound better to change this note to k for variation and the high-pitched music.
13. 03:44:893 (144) - you may add finish here if you agree with the deletion.
14. 03:52:391 (7) - same as Kantan

You may call me back after that~

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested in TNA queue.

• [General]

1. 00:23:947 - you may set volume to 80% like the other kiais.
2. 03:52:891 (1) - ending the spinner at 03:59:889 - sounds better as music stops around there.
   fixed both

• [Kantan]

1. 00:24:947 (2) - it would be better to delete this note and move 00:26:447 (4) - to 00:27:447 - to make the same break like the second and third kiai. oh rite
2. 00:33:945 (12) - consider changing this note to d for lower-pitched vocal compared to 00:34:445 (13,14) - ? ok,
3. 00:46:941 (4) - maybe remove finish ? The sound is less stressed than 00:42:942 (1) - no, i want to emphasis the similarities in the vocal phrase/tone
4. 01:02:937 (4) - same as ^ same as ^
5. 01:27:931 (15) - d as you did at 00:36:944 (16) - for consistency ? alright
6. 01:37:927 (5) - same as 00:46:941 (4) - same
7. 01:53:923 (5) - same as ^ ^
8. 02:04:920 (16,17) - maybe k as you did in Futsuu ? fixed
9. 02:15:918 (11) - it would be better if you make this note the same as 01:24:932 (11) - . fixed
10. 02:32:912 (11) - same as 00:46:941 (4) - :'(
11. 03:03:904 (7) - d would sound nicer as it has the same pitch as 03:02:905 (6) - yep
12. 03:09:403 (13) - maybe k here to make it consistent with 00:34:445 (13) - ? ok
13. 03:23:899 (9) - same as 00:33:945 (12) - ^
14. 03:26:898 (13) - same as 01:27:931 (15) - ^
15. 03:35:896 (7) - changing this note to d would help reflect the pitch increase across 03:35:896 (7,8) - fixed
16. 03:52:391 (25) - maybe D in contrast to the previous K K at 03:50:892 (23,24) - ? This would fit the pitch drop nicely imo. i think the pitch is not dropping, and K is more natural because of the low drum sound at 03:51:891 -

• [Futsuu]

1. 00:16:616 (14) - delete this note ? Currently this part is exactly the same as Muzukashii. you're right. ok then.
2. 00:27:946 (16,17,18,19,20) - maybe try d k d k k ? This would match the pitch changes in a way better. it's nice
3. 00:31:446 (23) - consider changing this note to k to follow the snare like you did at 01:22:432 (16) - ? i prefer simple ddd in first kiai
4. 00:46:941 (7) - same as Kantan same as kantan
5. 01:02:937 (8) - ^ ^
6. 01:37:927 (8) and 01:53:923 (9) - ^ ^
7. 01:56:673 (14) - you can change this note to d for a bit more variation.nice! fixed
8. 02:15:918 (21,22) - similar to Kantan, it would be better to swap these notes to d k for the increase in vocal pitch.fixed
9. 02:32:413 (21) - you may delete this note for a 2/1 break right after the complex pattern at 02:30:913 (17,18,19,20) - fixed
10. 02:32:912 (22) - same as Kantan still the same
11. 03:11:902 - consider adding k here for the noticeable beat ? ok
12. 03:34:396 (10,12) - swapping these notes to k d would accompany the pitch drop well. fixed
13. 03:40:145 (23) - d here would help emphasize the high-pitched trumpet at 03:40:395 (24) - ^
14. 03:52:391 (43) - same as Kantan same

• [Muzukashii]

1. 00:23:947 (1) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? woops
2. 00:46:941 (10) - same as Kantan same as kantan
3. From 00:50:940 to 00:56:939 - consider reforming the pattern like this to fit the vocal ? (cursor at 00:53:940 - ) yes this is nice
4. 01:02:937 (12) - same as 00:46:941 (10) -
5. 01:37:927 (11) - ^
6. 01:46:925 (32,33,34,35) - maybe make it the same as 00:55:939 (30,31,32) - for consistency ? ok
7. 01:53:923 (13) - same as 00:46:941 (10) -
8. 02:04:671 (43) - move to 02:04:421 - and change to k, then change 02:04:920 (44) - to d ? This would be easier to follow imo. fixed
9. 02:21:415 (2,4) - I think you need to delete these notes as the jump from Futsuu here is rather big currently. fixed
10. 02:32:912 (40) - same as Kantan
11. 03:13:902 (1) - same as 00:23:947 (1) - fixed
12. 03:21:899 (31) - ^ ^
13. 03:39:645 (35) - changing this note to k would fit the pitch increase well. ^
14. 03:52:391 (74) - same as Kantan

• [Oni]

1. 00:19:950 - you may remove this timing point as it is not in use. ah yes what does the timing point doing there -__-''
2. 00:36:694 (51,52,53) - kdk would follow the vocal in a way better as the pitch at 00:30:821 (29) - is lower. i think it's wrong time stamp lol (maybe you mean 00:30:696 (28,29,30) or 00:36:819 (52) - ? ) - i keep it to make it coherent with increasing pitch in instrument at 00:30:946 (30,31,32,33) -
3. 00:46:941 (91) and 01:02:937 (153) - same as Kantan
4. 01:27:681 (257,258,259) - same as 00:36:694 (51,52,53) - keep to make it cohere with 01:27:931 (259,260) -
5. 01:53:923 (361) - same as Kantan
6. 02:18:667 (93,94,95) - same as 00:36:694 (51,52,53) -
7. 02:24:914 (9) - althrough this pattern is rankable, I would recommend changing this note to k for a better playability. In fact it appears a way too sudden and you used a small note at 02:28:913 (26) - as well. fixed
8. 03:09:903 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe try kdkkk here ? The last three beats are really high-pitched.fixed
9. 03:11:652 (8,9,10) - same as 00:36:694 (51,52,53) - same
10. 03:26:648 (52,53,54) - ^ ^
11. 03:42:519 (131) and 03:44:768 (145) - these notes could be deleted. They sound a bit unnecessary and bring too much pace to this part.
12. 03:44:144 (140) - if you apply ^ , it would sound better to change this note to k for variation and the high-pitched music.
13. 03:44:893 (144) - you may add finish here if you agree with the deletion.
    i followed the drum and i think it nice to give some pace to reach climax ending
14. 03:52:391 (7) - same as Kantan

You may call me back after that~

thank you nardo

wah lagu saru iki KWkwKkwkw

semacam sen tumpeh atau itu ganther kwkwkw t/10799

mayanlah, nemu map memes. artis toiko, judulnya dari penyanyi gunter

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

• [Oni]

1. 00:19:950 - the timing point here is still not removed.

i'm sure i removed it before....fixed.

The spread looks better now. Patterns are generally consistent and there are sufficient breaks in the lower difficulties.

Bubbled~

i love you~

DIN DON DIN DON DON DON KAT

Qualified!

dingdong

gratz!

Gratz !! :>

Congratz!!