This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年4月1日 at 13:02:17

Artist: An
Title: Tephereth
Tags: Xephiratone AcuticNotes せんざい sennzai
BPM: 191
Filesize: 4250kb
Play Time: 02:32
Difficulties Available:

1. Futsuu (2.47 stars, 331 notes)
2. Inner Oni (5.43 stars, 815 notes)
3. Kantan (1.82 stars, 188 notes)
4. Muzukashii (3.1 stars, 538 notes)
5. Oni (3.85 stars, 668 notes)

Download: An - Tephereth
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4th Ranked mapset
mapset
Kantan by me(100%)
Futsuu by me(100%)
Muzukashii by me(100%)
Oni by me(100%)
Inner Oni by me(100%) : just a challenge diff, have fun!


BG source : http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=366788

Full ver.

CrazySalt

IRC modded
talked with mapper (lower diffs breaks)

tasuke912 wrote:

IRC modded
talked with mapper (lower diffs breaks)

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2015-11-22 13:59 SKSalt: タスケテtasuke~
2015-11-22 13:59 tasuke912: foo
2015-11-22 14:00 SKSalt: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/831002 An feat.Sennzai - Tephereth(Short Ver.)]
2015-11-22 14:00 SKSalt: mapset作ってみたけど低難易度が...
2015-11-22 14:00 SKSalt: 曲的に絶望なうｗ
2015-11-22 14:00 tasuke912: SR高くてもrankableだよ
2015-11-22 14:01 SKSalt: KantanとFutsuuをぱっとみてもらいたい
2015-11-22 14:01 SKSalt: 果たしてこんなに1/2をつかってもいいのか
2015-11-22 14:01 SKSalt: Kantanは赤線上にいっぱいおいてる
2015-11-22 14:02 tasuke912: 休憩増やせばいける
2015-11-22 14:02 tasuke912: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/831002 An feat.Sennzai - Tephereth(Short Ver.) [Kantan]]
2015-11-22 14:02 tasuke912: 00:35:497 (24) - 例えばここ消すとか
2015-11-22 14:03 SKSalt: なるほどぉ！
2015-11-22 14:03 tasuke912: 00:59:372 (57,58) - ここ消してスピナー早めに始めるとか
2015-11-22 14:04 SKSalt: ふむふゆ
2015-11-22 14:04 SKSalt: む
2015-11-22 14:04 SKSalt: いいね
2015-11-22 14:04 SKSalt: 最高だわ
2015-11-22 14:04 tasuke912: あとは大体大丈夫じゃね
2015-11-22 14:05 SKSalt: ★1.87
2015-11-22 14:05 tasuke912: 休憩さえ増やせばリズム一貫してるしこのままいけるよ
2015-11-22 14:05 SKSalt: 新たなる挑戦
2015-11-22 14:05 SKSalt: yatta
2015-11-22 14:05 SKSalt: wa-i
2015-11-22 14:05 tasuke912: Kantan近々2越えててもrankableになる
2015-11-22 14:05 SKSalt: mazi?
2015-11-22 14:06 tasuke912: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/831001 An feat.Sennzai - Tephereth(Short Ver.) [Futsuu]]
2015-11-22 14:06 tasuke912: 00:25:759 (15) - ここbreak用に消せるかも
2015-11-22 14:07 SKSalt: yes
2015-11-22 14:07 tasuke912: 00:33:298 (37) - 
2015-11-22 14:07 tasuke912: Fも休憩増やせば行けるね
2015-11-22 14:08 SKSalt: 00:35:811 (44) - ここ消した方がbetterかな
2015-11-22 14:08 tasuke912: 01:39:737 (21) - このノートちょっと謎だから1/2→移動で良いと思う
2015-11-22 14:08 SKSalt: 4小節目だし
2015-11-22 14:08 tasuke912: うん
2015-11-22 14:08 SKSalt: おｋ
2015-11-22 14:11 tasuke912: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/799402 An feat.Sennzai - Tephereth(Short Ver.) [Inner Oni]]
2015-11-22 14:12 tasuke912: 声合わせ1/2リズム線上に置いた方が良いんじゃない？
2015-11-22 14:12 SKSalt: うーん
2015-11-22 14:12 tasuke912: 01:55:876 (143,144) - こことか
2015-11-22 14:13 SKSalt: これ際どいなぁ
2015-11-22 14:13 SKSalt: どうしようか迷った挙句こうしているけど
2015-11-22 14:13 tasuke912: 溜めて歌うボーカル合わせるとリズム崩れる
2015-11-22 14:14 tasuke912: 伴奏は普通のリズムだから1/4線上にすればそれらにも合う
2015-11-22 14:15 tasuke912: 01:54:423 - あとここ抜けてる
2015-11-22 14:15 tasuke912: 意図的かわからんけど
2015-11-22 14:15 SKSalt: あーこれはplayしやすくするためにこうしてるかな
2015-11-22 14:15 SKSalt: kkk kk はやりにくｓぎる
2015-11-22 14:16 SKSalt: さっきの1/8ずらしていたところはなおした
2015-11-22 14:16 tasuke912: kkk-k--k--dの方が正直リズム撮りにくい
2015-11-22 14:18 tasuke912: streamめっちゃkdkdkd多いな
2015-11-22 14:18 tasuke912: 途中で少し切って運指変える場所作るかdkdkdでバランス取るかしてほしさある
2015-11-22 14:19 SKSalt: kdkd多いか？
2015-11-22 14:20 tasuke912: 8:2くらいkdkd
2015-11-22 14:20 tasuke912: dkdk 01:49:161 (91,92,93,94) - ここしかないし
2015-11-22 14:21 tasuke912: 01:42:722 (9,10,11,12) -, 01:44:764 (35,36,37,38) -, 01:45:235 (41,42,43,44) -,01:47:277 (67,68,69,70) -, 01:47:748 (73,74,75,76) -, 01:48:690 (85,86,87,88) -, 01:49:083 (90,91,92,93) - 
2015-11-22 14:22 tasuke912: 9:1だった
2015-11-22 14:22 SKSalt: まぁ要するにkの比率が多いということね
2015-11-22 14:22 tasuke912: k自体の数じゃなくてkdkd
2015-11-22 14:23 tasuke912: kの割合自体が高いのは透き通った曲だから良い
2015-11-22 14:24 SKSalt: 音取りした結果がこれだし考え方変えたら1から作り直しになってしまう
2015-11-22 14:25 SKSalt: あんまり手加えたくないなぁ
2015-11-22 14:26 tasuke912: streamだけだから差分残して何個かパターン考えてみたら
2015-11-22 14:26 SKSalt: うーん
2015-11-22 14:27 SKSalt: とりあえず頭の片隅に置いておく
2015-11-22 14:27 SKSalt: それと
2015-11-22 14:27 SKSalt: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/831004 An feat.Sennzai - Tephereth(Short Ver.) [Oni]]
2015-11-22 14:27 SKSalt: 01:47:434 (47,48,49,50,51,52,53) -
2015-11-22 14:27 SKSalt: この配置OniでOk?
2015-11-22 14:28 tasuke912: 全然心配いらない
2015-11-22 14:28 SKSalt: 逆手も入ってきているしちょっと不安だったけど
2015-11-22 14:28 SKSalt: いいのか
2015-11-22 14:28 tasuke912: むしろOniで許容されなかったら何だったら許容されるんだって感じ
2015-11-22 14:28 SKSalt: ｗｗｗ
2015-11-22 14:29 tasuke912: ダメなのはMuzuに1/4が全然ない時かなあ
2015-11-22 14:29 tasuke912: spread的に
2015-11-22 14:29 SKSalt: どうだろう
2015-11-22 14:30 SKSalt: Muzuだいぶ減らしてしまった感
2015-11-22 14:30 tasuke912: 俺は大丈夫だと思うよspread[
2015-11-22 14:30 SKSalt: まじか
2015-11-22 14:31 tasuke912: kds貰う
2015-11-22 14:31 SKSalt: んｗ

Thanks for modding. updated.

good song >_<

if you need 1366*768 BG ↓↓↓

Narcissu wrote:

good song >_<

if you need 1366*768 BG ↓↓↓

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Thank you very much. I'm extremely happy.

maido.. m4m from your queque
すいません遅れました...


An feat.Sennzai - Tephereth

Shiroi Hiroshi wrote:

maido.. m4m from your queque
すいません遅れました...


An feat.Sennzai - Tephereth

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tag: AcuticNotes added.







Kantan :

HP : 3-4 本来であればそうしたいのですが、新しいルールによりHPを7~8にしなければならなくなったのでこうしています。
02:12:093 - d ? 十分な休憩を設けるためにここを空けています。

Futsuu:
00:11:780 - d ?以下のドラムサウンド Muzukashiiから意図的に間引いて、Spreadの差分が出来るようにしています。
00:14:293 - ^ ^
00:16:806 - ^ ^
00:25:759 - d/k ここもKantanと同じく、十分な休憩を設けるために空けています。

Muzukashii
00:50:340 - d 3連符にする場所ではないと考えています。
00:59:215 - ここでドラムボイス/何か add d/k okay.

Oni

00:35:183 - d/k Nope.
00:59:215 - dドラム okay.

inner
01:42:093 - ~ 01:52:303 - こわい...... warota
02:32:983 (3) - finish ? Nope.

悪い場合は申し訳ありません.. がんばろう~

modありがとう

hi, for m4m

this mod may be a bit old since I started a few days ago, but the map has clearly changed a bit.

[Kantan]

00:23:246 (5) - revert to don? I think the sounds here is not enough to justify use of a kat.
00:30:785 - add a note here? The break feels too long at this point, even for kantan.
00:43:351 (33,36) - change those to don? imo these sounds are very ambient at this point. idk why kat is necessary at these positions ;w;
00:49:633 (40) - same as above.
01:20:419 (38) - delete? I think this sound is already mapped by previous note.
01:21:675 (38) - add a finisher, I think it needs it since this sound is isolated in terms of how you mapped it as well.
02:26:386 (48) - either change to don or delete, I don't think a kat is necessary.

the diff is alright, though the later part of the song becomes too complicated in a kantan perspective. better seek other modder's advice.

[Futsuu]

00:23:717 (9) - could change to don, I think it maps vocal better.
00:33:770 (37) - same as above.
00:43:665 (62,67) - similar to kantan, I don't think these should be kat.
01:05:969 (16) - I don't know if this note is necessary. At least change to don, I think this sound is too overemphasised by the diff.
01:16:021 (49) - same as above?
01:20:262 (62) - delete, again I think this is unnecessary. imo the previous 20 seconds is already densely mapped as it is, at least put a bit of break here.

from 01:42:407 (2) - to 01:51:203 (34) - I think it could be too densely mapped for Futsuu. consider revising this part?

imo it is okay, but some kiai parts need more breaks. (example, the aforementioned point)

[Muzukashii]

I think hitsounds should be slightly louder in this diff (and probably others), the song is too loud and I can't really hear the notes.

00:25:288 (17,18) - I think double kat is more suited here.
00:30:314 (37,38) - don't think don-kat is required considering lack of sound change. suggest double don?
00:37:068 (72,73) - again, double don is okay since you have kat sound at 00:37:539 (74) - .
01:00:314 (1) - end at 01:01:256 please so the length of the spinner is consistent. Or make the spinner on the easier diffs consistent with the harder ones.

from 01:01:571 (1) - to 01:20:419 (113) - ... I'm doubtful about some use of 1/4.

01:13:508 (71,72,73) - idk about using 1/4 here...
01:23:795 - add a note here? to map vocal.
02:14:685 - same here.
02:18:533 (67,68,69) - I think changing to all kat is okay. dkk feels a bit awkward after the break.

[Oni]

00:25:288 (20,21) - same as Muzukashii diff, I think double kat is more suited.
00:27:801 (33,34) - same as above.
00:43:351 (122,123,124) - I don't know about dkk pattern, this part feels a bit awkward to play in general. I don't think dkk matches the music.
00:45:550 (133,134,135) - same here.
01:24:188 (159) - I think it's better to change to don. this part should be more calm and ambient after the previous kiai.
01:54:580 (100) - change to don, this sound is quite different from the previous kkk-kk vocals.
02:29:528 (123,124,125) - change to kkd. It matches this sound effect more.

[Inner Oni]

00:11:309 (1) - I think from here to 00:18:848 (1) - you can change/add some notes since this is virtually the same as Oni diff.
00:25:288 (20,21) - same as previous diffs.
00:27:801 (33,34) - same as above.
00:43:822 (130) - change to don. I think use of kats in the stream before is intense.
00:46:335 (145) - ^
01:02:906 (14) - this would probably match the sounds/music better as kat.
01:04:712 (30,31,32,33,34) - should be same or very similar to 01:04:084 (24,25,26,27,28) - since they are identical in the music.
01:24:188 (201) - same as Oni.
01:30:784 (1) - to 01:40:209 (1) - either add or change some notes here or delete some in Oni please, this is identical to Oni diff. it feels as if you just copied+pasted.
01:56:386 (146,147) - change to all kat?

that's all. mapset is okay in general, but there are some parts I really wish you would actually be more creative with as virtually they are copy+pasted.

-[ Dumpling ]- wrote:

hi, for m4m

this mod may be a bit old since I started a few days ago, but the map has clearly changed a bit.

[Kantan]

00:23:246 (5) - revert to don? I think the sounds here is not enough to justify use of a kat. I consider a kick sound.
00:30:785 - add a note here? The break feels too long at this point, even for kantan. fm...okay. Let's have a try.
00:43:351 (33,36) - change those to don? imo these sounds are very ambient at this point. idk why kat is necessary at these positions ;w; I do it this way to keep balance.
00:49:633 (40) - same as above. In addition, I think that I am enough in k because a electric sounds.
01:20:419 (38) - delete? I think this sound is already mapped by previous note. I want to maintain 3 continuations.
01:21:675 (38) - add a finisher, I think it needs it since this sound is isolated in terms of how you mapped it as well. I'll have to take a rain check.
02:26:386 (48) - either change to don or delete, I don't think a kat is necessary. deleted.

the diff is alright, though the later part of the song becomes too complicated in a kantan perspective. better seek other modder's advice.

[Futsuu]

00:23:717 (9) - could change to don, I think it maps vocal better. fixed.
00:33:770 (37) - same as above. fixed.
00:43:665 (62,67) - similar to kantan, I don't think these should be kat. I narrow distance from Kantan. In addition, I do not have a thing to hit on other than this pattern ;w;
01:05:969 (16) - I don't know if this note is necessary. At least change to don, I think this sound is too overemphasised by the diff. I consider a kick sound. But I changed to d in 01:05:654 (15) -
01:16:021 (49) - same as above? ^
01:20:262 (62) - delete, again I think this is unnecessary. imo the previous 20 seconds is already densely mapped as it is, at least put a bit of break here. I reversed the following places here 01:10:681 (31,32,33) -

from 01:42:407 (2) - to 01:51:203 (34) - I think it could be too densely mapped for Futsuu. consider revising this part? I think that I am enough as it is.

imo it is okay, but some kiai parts need more breaks. (example, the aforementioned point)

[Muzukashii]

I think hitsounds should be slightly louder in this diff (and probably others), the song is too loud and I can't really hear the notes.

00:25:288 (17,18) - I think double kat is more suited here. It is located along a vocal sound.
00:30:314 (37,38) - don't think don-kat is required considering lack of sound change. suggest double don? fixed.
00:37:068 (72,73) - again, double don is okay since you have kat sound at 00:37:539 (74) - . No. I consider a kick sound.
01:00:314 (1) - end at 01:01:256 please so the length of the spinner is consistent. Or make the spinner on the easier diffs consistent with the harder ones. Nope.

from 01:01:571 (1) - to 01:20:419 (113) - ... I'm doubtful about some use of 1/4. I delete it from Inner Oni and make a low degree of difficulty. Therefore it is fine when I consider consistency.

01:13:508 (71,72,73) - idk about using 1/4 here...
01:23:795 - add a note here? to map vocal. I do not want to put a note on a blue line in Muzukashii.
02:14:685 - same here. ^
02:18:533 (67,68,69) - I think changing to all kat is okay. dkk feels a bit awkward after the break. changed dkd.

[Oni]

00:25:288 (20,21) - same as Muzukashii diff, I think double kat is more suited. ^
00:27:801 (33,34) - same as above. ^
00:43:351 (122,123,124) - I don't know about dkk pattern, this part feels a bit awkward to play in general. I don't think dkk matches the music. Ah, I think it's okay.
00:45:550 (133,134,135) - same here. ^
01:24:188 (159) - I think it's better to change to don. this part should be more calm and ambient after the previous kiai. I think it's fine for now ;w;
01:54:580 (100) - change to don, this sound is quite different from the previous kkk-kk vocals. fixed.
02:29:528 (123,124,125) - change to kkd. It matches this sound effect more. Same, it is fine I think.

[Inner Oni]

00:11:309 (1) - I think from here to 00:18:848 (1) - you can change/add some notes since this is virtually the same as Oni diff. I CAN'T. There is no place that can take the sound further.
00:25:288 (20,21) - same as previous diffs. ^
00:27:801 (33,34) - same as above. ^
00:43:822 (130) - change to don. I think use of kats in the stream before is intense. No, I consider a vocal sound.
00:46:335 (145) - ^ ^
01:02:906 (14) - this would probably match the sounds/music better as kat. I think it's fine for now.
01:04:712 (30,31,32,33,34) - should be same or very similar to 01:04:084 (24,25,26,27,28) - since they are identical in the music. No, I consider electric sounds.
01:24:188 (201) - same as Oni. ^
01:30:784 (1) - to 01:40:209 (1) - either add or change some notes here or delete some in Oni please, this is identical to Oni diff. it feels as if you just copied+pasted. Ah, I made as hard as possible efforts. As for me, remaped Muzu-Oni.
01:56:386 (146,147) - change to all kat? ^

that's all. mapset is okay in general, but there are some parts I really wish you would actually be more creative with as virtually they are copy+pasted.

Thanks for modding Very useful~

Hi, Mod from My Queue

Quizmaegi wrote:

Hi, Mod from My Queue

Inner Oni

00:35:811 ~ 00:36:126 - kkkd d k (1/6) no, It doesn't have such a sound.

00:46:021 - d

00:46:099 - delete

00:46:178 ~ 00:46:492 - kkkkd

01:11:702 - k ? I do it this way to plan distinction.

01:12:251 ~ 01:12:565 - k k dddd (1/6) same as first.

Oni

00:26:544 ~ 00:27:487 - dk ddkd (1/2) I consider a vocal sound.

01:51:203 ~ 01:51:675 - dkddkdk

01:57:250 - d

Muzukashi

00:22:147 - d

00:24:660 - d

00:28:586 - move to 00:28:429

00:28:586 - d

00:28:743 - d

02:03:454 - d

02:05:810 - d

02:05:967 - d

02:07:224 - k

02:08:480 - d

02:08:638 - d 02:07:381 (28) - The sound of the violin is more high-pitched than this.

No reply=Nope

Thanks for modding.

こんにちは～　queueからです。

今のメタデータで問題ないと思いますが、ボーカルがある曲で作曲家よりもボーカルの名前を入れる譜面のほうが多いので、Artistをボーカルである"せんざい"にしたほうがいいかもしれません。
ちなみにTagsに入ってる"Sennzai"のnが一個多いと思いましたが、彼女のツイッター見たらこれで合ってるみたいですね。問題ないです。

曲情報：http://acutic.net/ACAL-0005/
せんざい氏のTwitter: https://twitter.com/sennzai

Gamu wrote:

こんにちは～　queueからです。

今のメタデータで問題ないと思いますが、ボーカルがある曲で作曲家よりもボーカルの名前を入れる譜面のほうが多いので、Artistをボーカルである"せんざい"にしたほうがいいかもしれません。
ちなみにTagsに入ってる"Sennzai"のnが一個多いと思いましたが、彼女のツイッター見たらこれで合ってるみたいですね。問題ないです。

せんざいさんはあくまでもゲスト参加なのでArtistはAnのままでいいと思います。

曲情報：http://acutic.net/ACAL-0005/
せんざい氏のTwitter: https://twitter.com/sennzai

Thanks for checking!

SKSalt wrote:

Gamu wrote:

こんにちは～　queueからです。

今のメタデータで問題ないと思いますが、ボーカルがある曲で作曲家よりもボーカルの名前を入れる譜面のほうが多いので、Artistをボーカルである"せんざい"にしたほうがいいかもしれません。
ちなみにTagsに入ってる"Sennzai"のnが一個多いと思いましたが、彼女のツイッター見たらこれで合ってるみたいですね。問題ないです。

せんざいさんはあくまでもゲスト参加なのでArtistはAnのままでいいと思います。

曲情報：http://acutic.net/ACAL-0005/
せんざい氏のTwitter: https://twitter.com/sennzai

Thanks for checking!

そうですね。それにAn氏のほうがosuで有名というのもありますからね。問題ないです～：３

気まぐれリハビリmodです~ ご依頼ありがとうございます。:D

[General]
全体的にパターンマップの色が強いため、場所によっては製作者の意図と外れた変更案を提示しているかもしれません。
また、低難易度譜面においてはパターン譜面であることを考慮すると指摘できる点は非常に減ってしまいます。
Kantan と Muzukashii について特に言える点はありませんでした。
また Inner Oni の複合部分については叩けなくはないですがこういったマッピングは普段しないので私にはよくわかりません。
しかしながら、まだかなり向上できる点はあるのではないかと思いましたので、
こういった点を支持しながら効果的に判断できるModderの方にも再度判断を委ねてみるのが良いかと思います。

[Futsuu]
00:27:330 (18,19,20) - (19の位置から) k dk
・序盤に何か言い知れない違和感がある･･と思って何度か見直してみると00:22:461 (5,6,7) - この位置と音の取り方が違ったんですね‥
・これを敢えてやっているというのならFutsuuプレイヤーにはただでさえリズム難である配置に加え序盤で非常に困惑を与える要因ですので、形は統一してください。

[Oni]
00:45:864 (136,137,138,139) - k kkd or d kkd
・00:45:942 (142) - この位置のボーカルの始動位置という観点だけで見れば間違いではないのかもしれませんが、目立ってとるべき音はないように思います。

00:48:534 - 追加 k
00:48:613 - 追加 k
・このようなスクラッチ音はこれまでにとっている箇所が多いように思いますので、前小節と全く同じここでの変化づけには最適かと思います。

01:44:606 (24) - k ?
・パターン配置でなければ残響が続く部位で特に音が下がることもないのでdにはならないと思います。

01:47:512 (48,49) - dk
01:50:025 (72,73) - ^
・49の位置の音が強いのでここに合わせてアクセントをつけるとよいと思います。
・1:50:025の73について同様です。

[Inner Oni]
00:34:712 (73,74) - del 削除
・パターン配置だとは思うのですが00:34:712 (73) - ここの音がとても強く後に響く音がないように思うので、区切るとミュート感の演出になり好いと思います。

00:35:969 (83) - k
・たたきやすさ優先からくるパターン配置だとは思うのですが、この位置ではボーカルの音程を引きずっており、ドラムその他のトラックでの上昇音も非常に多いので
dと下げるのは好ましくないと思います。

00:37:068 (91) - k (variation)
・ピアノの音でかなり高い音があるので(変化付けに)拾ってもいいかな？というものです。基本構成がパターンなのでどの音を主体で拾っているのかは完全に把握できなかったのでこういった配置もありかと思います。

00:45:942 (142) - 1/4 move later (→)
・Oniでも同様の配置がありましたが、目立ってとるべき音はないように思います。

00:48:534 - 追加 k
00:48:613 - 追加 k
・Oniでも同様の配置がありましたが、前小節と全く同じここでの変化づけには最適かと思います。

00:50:262 (164) - k または 削除
・この小節中で変化が大きいのでここからパターンを崩してもよいかなと考えたためです。実音部はありませんが00:50:105 (163) - の残響にあたるため音を残す　という意味で音程の変化がない表現を行う方が良いと思います。

01:16:335 (140,141) - k d
・ボーカルの流れに即すと思います。

01:17:277 (148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - k kkkkd kdkkdkd
・154の位置のkにこれまでの流れから大きな違和感がありました。周辺の音も下がっているしこれまでの流れでとってもやはりdじゃないかな･･？どの音を重視するかで一連の配置方法は複数考えられると思いますが一例です。

01:18:691 (161,162) - kk
・01:18:534 (160) - このあたりからくる残響が大きいと思うのでkで絡めるとよいかもしれません。

01:45:392 (43,44,45,46) - kkdd
・このあたりでは高音の残響が薄れ、主旋律が下がっている様子しかないのでその方向に合わせるべきだと思います。具体的にどの程度後方まで流れをとるかは本人の裁量だと思いますが少なくともこの4つあたりは音の方向に反した配置になると思います。

01:48:533 (83,84,85,86) - kkdk
・主旋律部の音の流れと真逆になっていてたたきにくいです。

以上です。GL！:3

MidSoul wrote:

気まぐれリハビリmodです~ ご依頼ありがとうございます。:D

[General]
全体的にパターンマップの色が強いため、場所によっては製作者の意図と外れた変更案を提示しているかもしれません。
また、低難易度譜面においてはパターン譜面であることを考慮すると指摘できる点は非常に減ってしまいます。
Kantan と Muzukashii について特に言える点はありませんでした。
また Inner Oni の複合部分については叩けなくはないですがこういったマッピングは普段しないので私にはよくわかりません。
しかしながら、まだかなり向上できる点はあるのではないかと思いましたので、
こういった点を支持しながら効果的に判断できるModderの方にも再度判断を委ねてみるのが良いかと思います。okay~(>ω<)

[Futsuu]
00:27:330 (18,19,20) - (19の位置から) k dk
・序盤に何か言い知れない違和感がある･･と思って何度か見直してみると00:22:461 (5,6,7) - この位置と音の取り方が違ったんですね‥
・これを敢えてやっているというのならFutsuuプレイヤーにはただでさえリズム難である配置に加え序盤で非常に困惑を与える要因ですので、形は統一してください。 fixed. 音楽が若干違うのでこういう形にはしていましたが確かにこのリズムはFutsuuプレイヤーにとって難しいと思いました。Arigatou!

[Oni]
00:45:864 (136,137,138,139) - k kkd or d kkd
・00:45:942 (142) - この位置のボーカルの始動位置という観点だけで見れば間違いではないのかもしれませんが、目立ってとるべき音はないように思います。d kkdに変更しました！たしかに2連onlyの配置より1-3配置のほうがプレイ感がより出ていいと思いました！

00:48:534 - 追加 k
00:48:613 - 追加 k
・このようなスクラッチ音はこれまでにとっている箇所が多いように思いますので、前小節と全く同じここでの変化づけには最適かと思います。added.

01:44:606 (24) - k ?
・パターン配置でなければ残響が続く部位で特に音が下がることもないのでdにはならないと思います。ctrl+gしました。音の高低の捉え方が逆だった。。。

01:47:512 (48,49) - dk
01:50:025 (72,73) - ^
・49の位置の音が強いのでここに合わせてアクセントをつけるとよいと思います。
・1:50:025の73について同様です。Okay. これ適用したらめっちゃSR下がったｗｗｗｗｗｗ

[Inner Oni]
00:34:712 (73,74) - del 削除
・パターン配置だとは思うのですが00:34:712 (73) - ここの音がとても強く後に響く音がないように思うので、区切るとミュート感の演出になり好いと思います。これは後ろの電子音とボーカルサウンドの和音を取っており、指摘した部分についてはボーカルサウンドの引き伸ばした音をフォローしています。また、Kiai地帯でもあるので若干難しいパターンを置いたほうが面白いと思います。

00:35:969 (83) - k
・たたきやすさ優先からくるパターン配置だとは思うのですが、この位置ではボーカルの音程を引きずっており、ドラムその他のトラックでの上昇音も非常に多いので
dと下げるのは好ましくないと思います。yes.

00:37:068 (91) - k (variation)
・ピアノの音でかなり高い音があるので(変化付けに)拾ってもいいかな？というものです。基本構成がパターンなのでどの音を主体で拾っているのかは完全に把握できなかったのでこういった配置もありかと思います。good idea.

00:45:942 (142) - 1/4 move later (→)
・Oniでも同様の配置がありましたが、目立ってとるべき音はないように思います。fixed.

00:48:534 - 追加 k
00:48:613 - 追加 k
・Oniでも同様の配置がありましたが、前小節と全く同じここでの変化づけには最適かと思います。fixed.

00:50:262 (164) - k または 削除
・この小節中で変化が大きいのでここからパターンを崩してもよいかなと考えたためです。実音部はありませんが00:50:105 (163) - の残響にあたるため音を残す　という意味で音程の変化がない表現を行う方が良いと思います。自分は前のキック音との差別化を図るためにdを置いています。

01:16:335 (140,141) - k d
・ボーカルの流れに即すと思います。ここはkkkと続かないようにするために意図的にこういった配置にしております。

01:17:277 (148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - k kkkkd kdkkdkd
・154の位置のkにこれまでの流れから大きな違和感がありました。周辺の音も下がっているしこれまでの流れでとってもやはりdじゃないかな･･？どの音を重視するかで一連の配置方法は複数考えられると思いますが一例です。前者についてはボーカルの伸びをd, 始めをkとしています。後者の配置は01:17:356 (149) - 高音ボーカルの伸びと01:17:513 (151) - のハイハットと最後のボーカルの始めの部分をkとしており、それ以外をdで埋め合わせています。

01:18:691 (161,162) - kk
・01:18:534 (160) - このあたりからくる残響が大きいと思うのでkで絡めるとよいかもしれません。ここはキック音からのミュート感の演出・差別化を図るためこうした配置にしています。

01:45:392 (43,44,45,46) - kkdd
・このあたりでは高音の残響が薄れ、主旋律が下がっている様子しかないのでその方向に合わせるべきだと思います。具体的にどの程度後方まで流れをとるかは本人の裁量だと思いますが少なくともこの4つあたりは音の方向に反した配置になると思います。

01:48:533 (83,84,85,86) - kkdk
・主旋律部の音の流れと真逆になっていてたたきにくいです。
この部分はk主体で構成しています。というのもバイオリン音がこの部分では特に引き立っているからです。スネアの類ではないキック音はバイオリン音より小さく聞こえます。よってバイオリン音が優先されます。そしてバイオリン音によってdになった後のスネア以外のキック音もkにすることができます。せっかくの機会なのでもう一度主旋律に沿って見なおしてみました～

以上です。GL！:3

Thanks for modding! とてもいいmodで理付けするいい機会にもなりました～

salt

[General]

1. 01:21:361 - Is this line needed? Seems useless.

[Inner Oni]

1. HP6? 7 is pretty high, especially because of the deathstream.
2. 00:28:272 (35,36,37,38) - Maybe add a 1/4 triplet? Because you have them at 00:25:916 (23,24,25) - and 00:23:089 (10,11,12) - .
3. 00:49:948 (164,165,166) - d d k? Drums! Apply to all diffs if accepted.
4. 01:09:110 (69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98) - I don't think there is enough sound to have such big streams here lol...
5. 01:28:900 (166,167,168) - dkd? (I used my piano... it is v ^ v pitch apply to all if accepted...)
6. 01:56:857 (107,108,109,110) - No 1/6 mapping or something?
7. 02:10:208 (58,59,60,61) - No 1/6, kind of how the earlier kiai has 00:34:555 (70,71,72,73) - ?

[Oni]

1. Difference from Inner is so small. I really think you can remove a lot of 1/4 in first and last kiai, since it is better for Inner Oni to have a big gap from Oni to make K F M O spread easier.
2. 00:28:272 (35,36,37,38) - Same as Inner, 1/4 for consistency (or no 1/4, because of above reason ^ )?
   
3. 01:01:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This is 7 1/1 long...
   01:03:770 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - This is 10 1/1 long...
   01:06:911 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67) - This is 12 1/1 long!
   Maybe keep all of them 7-9 long to stay consistent? For example delete 01:06:126 (35,36) - , but put notes at 01:06:754 , then delete 01:08:639 (53,54) - but put notes at 01:10:524 etc!
4. 01:42:407 - You need to nerf this kiai lol. Some breaks, no 7 note streams. It hurts spread with Muzukashii. Once you nerf, maybe Muzu can be changed too.

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:31:099 (39) - Delete. You need a break since there are too many notes in a row here.
2. 00:31:256 - Like I mentioned in Oni, I think Oni should have less notes, so Muzu can be more 1/2,and that way it has better spread with Futsuu. Same with last kiai.
3. 00:41:466 - Maybe add some breaks and delete some notes since it is very close to Oni?
4. 01:01:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - Here, there is a lot of 1/4, but then you use a lot less later... adjust for consistency? Maybe less in the start, but a few more later?
5. 01:11:309 (54,55) - Delete these two for a break? This kiai needs one.
6. 02:30:470 (104) - Move to 02:30:627, delete 02:30:784 (105) - and make 02:30:941 (106) - k!

[Futsuu]

1. I think 1/2 can be used more. If you change spread in Oni and Muzu, maybe you don't need to.
2. In slow parts like 01:21:675 , 02:12:564 and 01:54:030 I think you should add more notes.
3. 00:50:576 (78,79,80) - Delete as long break? But maybe add notes at 00:50:105.
4. 01:33:140 (4) - This note is not in Muzu. Planned?
5. 01:48:847 (24) - Delete? It will still be harder, but it's better to keep x xx xx x xx xx x xx xx x I think.

[Kantan]

1. 00:18:848 (1) - End spinner at 00:20:105?
2. 00:59:058 (1) - ^ 01:00:942?
3. 01:14:136 (25) - d? So many k... and also because 01:04:084 (6,7,8,9,10) - is the same.
4. 01:17:906 (32) - d? For variation, since it's the same as before too...
5. 01:44:449 (6) - Maybe for this section do something more simple. This rhythm sounds bad, so maybe move to 01:42:879 and repeat x x x x for others? AAAA it also sounds bad, but I think it's less confusing for Kantan...

Lower diffs are fine, just make sure they work with spread. Anyways, I think the higher diffs are too similar, so maybe some adjustments can be made...

OzzyOzrock wrote:

salt

[General]

1. 01:21:361 - Is this line needed? Seems useless. I'm baka lol deleted.

[Inner Oni]

1. HP6? 7 is pretty high, especially because of the deathstream. okay.
2. 00:28:272 (35,36,37,38) - Maybe add a 1/4 triplet? Because you have them at 00:25:916 (23,24,25) - and 00:23:089 (10,11,12) - . added triplet.
3. 00:49:948 (164,165,166) - d d k? Drums! Apply to all diffs if accepted. mmm...? kick sound is 00:50:105 (167) - , So I put d k d.
4. 01:09:110 (69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98) - I don't think there is enough sound to have such big streams here lol... omg, I put it along the prolonged sound of the vocal.
5. 01:28:900 (166,167,168) - dkd? (I used my piano... it is v ^ v pitch apply to all if accepted...) I used vocal, sorry
6. 01:56:857 (107,108,109,110) - No 1/6 mapping or something? fluctuation is intense when I use 1/6.
7. 02:10:208 (58,59,60,61) - No 1/6, kind of how the earlier kiai has 00:34:555 (70,71,72,73) - ? Because there have no 1/6 sound.

[Oni]

1. Difference from Inner is so small. I really think you can remove a lot of 1/4 in first and last kiai, since it is better for Inner Oni to have a big gap from Oni to make K F M O spread easier. Ah, mapping is hard.
2. 00:28:272 (35,36,37,38) - Same as Inner, 1/4 for consistency (or no 1/4, because of above reason ^ )? added triplet.
   
3. 01:01:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This is 7 1/1 long...
   01:03:770 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - This is 10 1/1 long...
   01:06:911 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67) - This is 12 1/1 long!
   Maybe keep all of them 7-9 long to stay consistent? For example delete 01:06:126 (35,36) - , but put notes at 01:06:754 , then delete 01:08:639 (53,54) - but put notes at 01:10:524 etc! okay. I divided them.
4. 01:42:407 - You need to nerf this kiai lol. Some breaks, no 7 note streams. It hurts spread with Muzukashii. Once you nerf, maybe Muzu can be changed too.mmm...okay,

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:31:099 (39) - Delete. You need a break since there are too many notes in a row here. okay.
2. 00:31:256 - Like I mentioned in Oni, I think Oni should have less notes, so Muzu can be more 1/2,and that way it has better spread with Futsuu. Same with last kiai. okay.
3. 00:41:466 - Maybe add some breaks and delete some notes since it is very close to Oni? umm,,, Because it is too hard, I ask you directly.
4. 01:01:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - Here, there is a lot of 1/4, but then you use a lot less later... adjust for consistency? Maybe less in the start, but a few more later? I reduce in the start.
5. 01:11:309 (54,55) - Delete these two for a break? This kiai needs one. I deleted 01:11:309 - (2notes)
6. 02:30:470 (104) - Move to 02:30:627, delete 02:30:784 (105) - and make 02:30:941 (106) - k! All nope. Please refer to vocal sounds well.

[Futsuu]

1. I think 1/2 can be used more. If you change spread in Oni and Muzu, maybe you don't need to.
2. In slow parts like 01:21:675 , 02:12:564 and 01:54:030 I think you should add more notes. added some notes.
3. 00:50:576 (78,79,80) - Delete as long break? But maybe add notes at 00:50:105. Arranged it.
4. 01:33:140 (4) - This note is not in Muzu. Planned? oh, not planned lol Deleted.
5. 01:48:847 (24) - Delete? It will still be harder, but it's better to keep x xx xx x xx xx x xx xx x I think. Yeah.

[Kantan]

1. 00:18:848 (1) - End spinner at 00:20:105? okay.
2. 00:59:058 (1) - ^ 01:00:942? ^
3. 01:14:136 (25) - d? So many k... and also because 01:04:084 (6,7,8,9,10) - is the same. okay.
4. 01:17:906 (32) - d? For variation, since it's the same as before too... changed to d.
5. 01:44:449 (6) - Maybe for this section do something more simple. This rhythm sounds bad, so maybe move to 01:42:879 and repeat x x x x for others? AAAA it also sounds bad, but I think it's less confusing for Kantan... Mapping is hard ×2...........

Lower diffs are fine, just make sure they work with spread. Anyways, I think the higher diffs are too similar, so maybe some adjustments can be made...

I liked former Oni and Muzukashii very much. However, it was necessary for me to change it. Sad. However, I must do it.

Anyway, thanks for mod Ozzy

The changes in note density helped overall spread very well, making the gap between diffs more consistent.

Bubbled!

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