UndeadCapulet wrote:

Naitoshi wrote:

xD yeep Ohhh boy.... This'll be a difficult journey

Or you could just ask really crazy people like me to mod and everything will go fine!

Complex

I replaced your bg with some random image while modding. If you see the Windows logo in the screenshots, that's why. I will change, lol (back to bou nin again...)

00:29:676 (1) - Remove this NC. The SV change is already easily readable because of the rhythm structure/note layout. At best, all this does is clutter things up; at worst, it will confuse people into thinking the rhythm will change here. Same for 00:40:970 (4) - or any other place where NC'ing for an SV change will clash with NC'ing for the complex rhythm. I feel like the rhythm is so implanted at this point that the player can already tell what they are going to be. The NC's are for that added effect, the slider v change, and the background electronic volume increment

01:18:559 (6,1) - Bring these closer together. The rhythm structure here is different from what we're used to because of 01:17:235 (5,1) - , we need to make the 1/4 gap here more obvious. Everything else is fine after this, because the rhythm stays consistent so everything can be expected, but this first one needs to be as readable as possible. Same for 03:11:764 (6,1) - . Okie for the first one I believe the second one is alright

01:25:176 (3,4) - Right now 3 feels really far away from 4 because you have to speed up to hit 4 after finishing 3's sliderbody. Since they're all on the same line of travel, this feels weird to play. If you ctrl+g 3, the motion will be the same as 01:26:235 (7,8) - , which plays a lot nicer because of the direction change. Or you could just do something like this if you aren't attached to the current slider structure. I believe that the first one feels good because there ISN'T a direction change

01:39:823 (2,1) - This angle seems really arbitrary/random. This is the first time these kiai synths have shown up in the song, and especially after you used the same slider twice (01:38:764 (1,2) - ), the 1/4 distance can be unexpected. There are basically two arrangements that keep the distance you want that still make the 1/4 snap easy to read. You could form a right angle like so. People like snapping at right angles, so they're more inclined to hold on the sliderbody as long as they can. The other option is to place the second slider close to the first slider's head, like so. 2's sliderhead is a natural returning point for the hand, and with the two approach circles so close together, it's very easy to read. You actually do this kind of thing the second time these synths appear, but it's more important to do it here. (These arrangements will still work even if you change the slider designs, btw) This one's a bit tricky. I could rearrange this pattern, but I'll have no idea what that would do to the "hidden" flow. Now, I did rotate the second slider and bring it closer to the next one, hopefully it'll be enough. As it is a good point, I'll have this in my blue suggestions >~> But for now, this isn't something that I would drastically change at the moment.

01:50:059 (1,1) - This is pretty cool, but you really need the circle to line up with the curve of the sliderbody. Right now it feels more like a sharp turn off of the slidertail instead of a complete direction change. And this also causes the 1/4 distance to be harder to read than it should be. If the layout was more like this, it would be a lot better. Also applies to 02:12:647 (1,1) - . You see, originally I had it like this, but then I mapped onward. I wanted the flow from the circle to the next slider to be way more ambiguous than it was so I copied an LC pattern >~> The horizontal jump feels soooo much better than it would have felt if I kept it that way, especially since that next slider has a clockwise direction

01:59:588 (2,3,1) - lol could you fix the stacking please OMG ROUNDING ERRORS. SLIDER ENDS WILL NOT STACK EF THIS

03:20:059 (3) - NC here, it's very hard to tell the 1/6 from the 1/4, NC'ing will help at least a little. Also NC at 01:27:117 (3) - for consistency. ye, gotcha

03:28:441 (4,1) - I know Charles said the spaced stream was out of place, but a streamjump is much more out of place. It's 3 and a half minutes in to the map, and we've never done a streamjump before, throwing one in now feels random. (Oh and make the NC jobs at 01:35:588 (5,6,7,1) - and 03:28:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - consistent in one way or another) Yeah, I got this too. I don't think the NCs have to be consistent at these points. I mapped them differently and the second section of kiais are different too

03:31:353 (1,1,1) - It is reallly hard to tell this is 1/3. Though tbh I've done a lot of fiddling around and I really don't know what would make this any easier. The closest I've come up with is something like this, where you form a line with the sliderheads to smoothly curve into the next sliderbody, but I still don't think it works out that well. Removing the NC's on the 1/6 sliders kinda helps, but not really. Try to fiddle around with it some more if you can, but I'm at a bit of a loss here. (Honestly I tried just making them into just a 1/3 repeat slider and I think it works fine, the emphasis isn't really lost in this instance, it ends up similar to 04:38:764 (1) - . Consider it as an option, at least) Don't worry, I was on the fence about this too xd, but this will definitely be change to something better. I really like your suggestion. I just will blue suggestion suggestions to this so that I can find the optimal answer from them or from myself. I will consider 1/3 repeat too.

03:42:294 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These NC's need to be structured like so. This makes it more obvious these are 1/6 sliders and not 1/4, because the NC's are on white ticks like normal. But also, there's a clear increase in volume at 03:42:647 (2) - that doesn't happen at the places you've NC'd. It makes more sense to NC here. Same for 04:04:882 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - . yeahmmmmm

04:05:941 (2) - Shouldn't there be a 1/4 snap here as well, the way it is at 03:43:000 (1,1) - ? no, 3 clicks in a row is gross... also they're different. Extending sliders just adds that extra soft sound (which sounds so cool before a finish-clap). I will allow myself to only do it once in a subsection

04:53:235 (6) - Well, stacking here covers up the repeat, so this can be pretty annoying on first play. Just let the arrow peak out slightly and it should be fine. Same applies to the other 1/16 sliders. I'm actually going to rework this section soon. Not too much, just forgot signature pattern ._. The stacks will be removed and this whole section will play a lot smoother (promise)

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I think that's everything from me, hope I was helpful. Change the bg please :v
This map is really wonderful, good luck with ranking!

appleeaterx wrote:

Hi!
You sent me quite a few requests already yeah ily >.>, seems like you're having trouble finding mods (?) heh juuuust for this
Anyways, from PM request.

:idea: General

* Unused hitsounds:
soft-hitclap2.wav
, soft-slidertick2.wav
, soft-slidertick3.wav ty ty
* You can't silence both slider slide & slider tick sounds. This counts for S:C1, C2 & C3 oops, will fix

:arrow: Testplay

* Insane - Score ~ Replay

Insane

* HP3 is way too low & really lame... I understand why you may put it that low, since it's a rather gimmicky map, but this is just too easy. I highly recommend using at least HP5. forgot to change
* 02:45:823 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Strange that this has a larger spacing and is consistent all the way through compared to 00:52:882 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - . In terms of volume/intensity, they seem really similar. Try to make (a bit more) this consistent with each other? I think they have the same kind of difficulty. One's curved and easy, the other is crooked, but it's lower spacing makes up for the difficulty it could've had
* 03:53:588 (4) - Add NC? For slowdowns with this instruments you usually have one. Would also help with readability, as the player cannot rely on slider ticks here due to the short length. okie
* 04:53:235 (8) - 04:56:059 (8) - 04:58:882 (10) - While I like the idea of this, if it's going for rank I would not let this pass. Due to the low SV and surrounding objects & hitbursts, the reverse arrow isn't visible at all. Yeah I know, Undeadcapulet caught this. I'll probably scale the flower objects to make the reverse arrow visible. mb
* 04:53:588 (1,2,3,4,5) - Nice pattern, but the fact that the spacing changed from 4.0x-ish to 10.0x-ish without any change in the song itself was really awkward. I see that the ending also has some large spacing, would appreciate it if the distance would just increase gradually rather than massive & random increases in spacing. good point, I'll just change the order so the spacing isn't as jarring

Okay map. I like the concept of the overall concept, just wish you were more consistent with stuff. I guess that's not what you were really aiming for.

Didn't go into full details, you mainly follow the same instrument with slider spam so doubt that will help lol.

Hope it helped, good luck \o/

TequilaWolf wrote:

mod

Complex-

The effort you put into making this is very admirable.

00:08:411 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - unbelievably hard to read, could only get 3x100 at best. I really suggest altering spacing to reflect the time between taps, even though you've already done that with NC. Like this 00:08:411 (1,2) - has a separate spacing with 00:09:117 (1,2,3,4,5) - and these 00:11:059 (3,1) - (maybe you can say..stack these) 00:13:882 (3,1,2,1) - hooboy nah mayne >.> spacing is so overrated
00:51:294 - add note maybe while there is a mappable sound there, I'd rather give the player more power. The sound isn't all that audible either and not what I'm following
02:06:823 - maybe add note, 1/3 slider seems nice (I guess you're probably leaving these gaps on purpose..I don't understand anything anymore) ^See the first line in creator's words. ok there's no beat to map here lel
03:31:353 (1,1,1,1) - a little hard to transition to these so suddenly, hard to read Yeah I understand >_> I think I'm going to just overlap them so it'll be easier to hit all three
04:52:882 (4,5,6,7,8) - incredibly hard to read for me starting from this part right till the end, no suggestions though Still continuing to improve the ending. It's a lot better than what it was

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P.S. I'm afraid to say this map is waaay too /complex/ and out of my league, I looked at it for a long time but I don't see anything/don't have the ability to suggest anything that isn't actually just preference but an actual issue. well still a lot more to learn! btw http://i.imgur.com/jcu3NAC.jpg http://puu.sh/mnAmD/9d7644fe4c.osr screenshot and replay in case you want it omg thank you, I really appreciate it. and thank you for your time, and I'm sorry if this map is a bit too "out there" >.>