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Evanescence - Together Again

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meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
meii18
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 7:46:42 AM

Artist: Evanescence
Title: Together Again
Tags: choir violin piano single chronicles of narnia collab collaboration ByBy_ChAn ZLOdeuka-
BPM: 52.02
Filesize: 6282kb
Play Time: 03:15
Difficulties Available:
  1. Normal (1.64 stars, 249 notes)
  2. Together (2.41 stars, 336 notes)
Download: Evanescence - Together Again
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My seventh ranked map! (づ￣ ³￣)づ


old stuff =w=
Thanks for amazing BG Bakari!
  1. Normal by me Done!
  2. Together by me and ZLOdeuka- Done!

Ready for Mods!


Thanks for modding!
  1. MkGuh
  2. monstrata
  3. Kloyd
  4. Ipas
  5. gameuse
  6. Blizs
  7. Cherry Blossom
  8. Sieg
  9. Reditum
  10. -Hakurei-
  11. Desperate-kun
  12. Gray Veyron
  13. Okoratu
  14. Desperate-kun
  15. Okoratu
  16. Bakari
  17. Desperate-kun
  18. Okoratu
Last edited by meii18 , edited 29 times in total.
ZLOdeuka-
1,442 posts
Joined June 2009
ZLOdeuka-
oh, beautiful song !


#1 btw o3o
meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
meii18

ZLOdeuka- wrote:

oh, beautiful song !


#1 btw o3o
Thanks! o3o

EDIT: Ready for mods! ヾ(*´∀｀*)ﾉ
Mekki
1,793 posts
Joined November 2014
Mekki
Hi~

General

  1. I think that BPM should be 104.040, but i'm not 100% sure, so i recommend to ask for other people about this.

Normal

  1. Inherit (green) timing line is unsnapped at 01:59:853. (Same on Hard)
  2. 00:28:466 (3) - NC here for the start of the vocals.
  3. 02:34:187 (5) - Remove NC here.
  4. 03:13:403 (1) - Finish this spinner 3:15:205 maybe?

    Wow! This difficulty is really well done, good work!

Together

  1. 00:13:472 (1) - Improve the blanket with (3) by moving the second gray point of (1) for x:96 y:224.
  2. 00:25:583 (3) - ^
  3. 01:30:462 (3) - Try making this slider better with the song, something like that.
  4. 02:46:875 (1) - Add a NC here and remove here 02:48:028 (3).

    Well... Nothing too much for say about both diffs, they're really well done, congrats and good luck :3
meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
meii18

MkGuh wrote:

Hi~

General

  1. I think that BPM should be 104.040, but i'm not 100% sure, so i recommend to ask for other people about this. I taked the timing from a ranked one.The current BPM is correct don't worry

Normal

  1. Inherit (green) timing line is unsnapped at 01:59:853. (Same on Hard) fixed
  2. 00:28:466 (3) - NC here for the start of the vocals. no keep it for consistency in comboing
  3. 02:34:187 (5) - Remove NC here. I putted NC for consistency in comboing.keep it
  4. 03:13:403 (1) - Finish this spinner 3:15:205 maybe? after the vocals stops,the sounds still continue to hear so no sorry :c

    Wow! This difficulty is really well done, good work! Thanks! o3o

Together

  1. 00:13:472 (1) - Improve the blanket with (3) by moving the second gray point of (1) for x:96 y:224. fixed
  2. 00:25:583 (3) - ^
  3. 01:30:462 (3) - Try making this slider better with the song, something like that. I want this slider soft and pleasant to play.keep it for now
  4. 02:46:875 (1) - Add a NC here and remove here 02:48:028 (3). no because I will make the combos inconsistent.

    Well... Nothing too much for say about both diffs, they're really well done, congrats and good luck :3 Thanks! =w=)b
Thanks for mod MkGuh! Updated!
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
try offset 8850, current offset is just a bit too late imo.

[Normal]

  1. 00:14:626 (3,4) - This blanket is pretty off... look at the slider-head vs slider-tail.
  2. 00:14:337 (2,1) - Is it possible not to overlap them?
  3. 00:34:233 (1) - Try a wave-slider instead? I think it will fit the piano better than a straight slider.
    ~
  4. 00:55:571 (1) - This could be a 1/2 slider to map the piano on 00:55:860 - .
  5. 01:01:627 - Maybe a 1/2 slider here too? The rhythm here felt kind of empty compared to what you have later.
  6. 01:34:210 (1,2) - Fix this blanket too
  7. 02:42:261 (3,4,1) - This flow was a bit sharp imo... Try moving 02:43:414 (1) - to 452||224
[Together]

  1. 00:13:184 (4,1) - If you're going to make jumps like this (1.94x DS), you should put more, because right now this stands out, but jumps like 00:19:239 (4,1) - and 00:24:141 (4,1) - Are too small that they don't really feel like jumps.
  2. 01:03:068 - Is a nice place to end the spinner because of the drum.
  3. 01:05:087 (2,3) - There are a lot of places here where you can put jumps. You keep using the same DS but ZLOdeuka puts jumps in their sections a lot, which i think follow the emphasis in the music really well. You can maybe put a slightly bigger jump on these places: 01:07:394 (2,3) - 01:14:314 (3,4) - .
  4. 01:14:314 (3,4) - Uses jumps up to 1.80x in DS. So using a similar jump DS will make this diff feel even more connected xD.
  5. 01:32:769 (2,3) - Bigger jump here would be nice too
  6. 01:34:787 (3,4) - Here too!
  7. 01:53:530 (2,3,4) - These notes don't seem very signifncant. I would stick to 1.30 spacing here instead of 1.60. Keep the jump from 01:54:683 (4,1) - though because that plays nicely.
  8. 02:19:193 (3,4) - This jump was really sudden... It didn't fit the music well for me because it's just a piano sound. it doesn't need to be given such a large jump (compared to your other jumps). You're using 2.60x spacing here which is double the normal DS.
  9. 02:33:322 (4,1) - Better to stack them since you stacked 02:30:727 (3,5) - .
  10. 03:00:427 (2,3) - This spacing is too low, just use 1,30 here like normal xD
ZLOdeuka-
1,442 posts
Joined June 2009
ZLOdeuka-

monstrata wrote:

[Together] ZLOparts

01:03:068 - Is a nice place to end the spinner because of the drum. fixed
01:53:530 (2,3,4) - These notes don't seem very signifncant. I would stick to 1.30 spacing here instead of 1.60. Keep the jump from 01:54:683 (4,1) - though because that plays nicely. fixed
02:19:193 (3,4) - This jump was really sudden... It didn't fit the music well for me because it's just a piano sound. it doesn't need to be given such a large jump (compared to your other jumps). You're using 2.60x spacing here which is double the normal DS. fixed
02:33:322 (4,1) - Better to stack them since you stacked 02:30:727 (3,5) - . fixed
Thank you! :>

SPOILER
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
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Title:Together Again
TitleUnicode:Together Again
Artist:Evanescence
ArtistUnicode:Evanescence
Creator:ByBy13
Version:Together
Source:
Tags:
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BeatmapSetID:350495

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meii18
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meii18

monstrata wrote:

try offset 8850, current offset is just a bit too late imo. of course fixed

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  1. 00:14:626 (3,4) - This blanket is pretty off... look at the slider-head vs slider-tail. fixed
  2. 00:14:337 (2,1) - Is it possible not to overlap them? fixed
  3. 00:34:233 (1) - Try a wave-slider instead? I think it will fit the piano better than a straight slider. okay
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  4. 00:55:571 (1) - This could be a 1/2 slider to map the piano on 00:55:860 - . sure
  5. 01:01:627 - Maybe a 1/2 slider here too? The rhythm here felt kind of empty compared to what you have later. fixed
  6. 01:34:210 (1,2) - Fix this blanket too seems fine to me
  7. 02:42:261 (3,4,1) - This flow was a bit sharp imo... Try moving 02:43:414 (1) - to 452||224 fixed \w/
[Together]

  1. 00:13:184 (4,1) - If you're going to make jumps like this (1.94x DS), you should put more, because right now this stands out, but jumps like 00:19:239 (4,1) - and 00:24:141 (4,1) - Are too small that they don't really feel like jumps. fixed
  2. 01:05:087 (2,3) - There are a lot of places here where you can put jumps. You keep using the same DS but ZLOdeuka puts jumps in their sections a lot, which i think follow the emphasis in the music really well. You can maybe put a slightly bigger jump on these places: 01:07:394 (2,3) - 01:14:314 (3,4) - . I use 1.5x DS here because it seems enough to me to emphasize the stronger vocals and the stronger piano.keep for now
  3. 01:14:314 (3,4) - Uses jumps up to 1.80x in DS. So using a similar jump DS will make this diff feel even more connected xD. As you can see on 01:14:593(4)- ,the vocals became more stronger and I deicded to emphasize them increasing the spacing with 1.5x DS
  4. 01:32:769 (2,3) - Bigger jump here would be nice too the vocals are not to strong here so keep for now
  5. 01:34:787 (3,4) - Here too! I used 1.5x DS here.There are really stronger vocals.Fixed
  6. 03:00:427 (2,3) - This spacing is too low, just use 1,30 here like normal xD oops there was a spacing error.Fixed
Thanks for mod monstrata. Updated!
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  • together
  1. 00:37:685 (5) - slidernazi http://puu.sh/k0AxI/decce3293b.jpg / adjust the circles which comes after this slider
  2. 01:46:600 (4) - i think keeping spacing consistent might be good
  3. 02:12:264 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/k0AEp/883a8f706e.jpg
  4. 02:16:877 (3) - for better flow http://puu.sh/k0AFq/6a8688bb8e.jpg (rotate 5')

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meii18
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meii18
Everything was fixed on my part thanks! Waiting for ZLOdeuka-
ZLOdeuka-
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ZLOdeuka-

Kloyd wrote:

  • together
  1. 00:37:685 (5) - slidernazi http://puu.sh/k0AxI/decce3293b.jpg / adjust the circles which comes after this slider not fixed, I deliberately made him such a form. and I like it more than your. sorry
  2. 01:46:600 (4) - i think keeping spacing consistent might be good not fixed

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meii18
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Topic Starter
meii18
Okay.Let's go for mods again!
Ipas
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Ipas
Hello, as your request!
I guess they're all will be unimportant suggestions, but I will do the best, sorry If it wasn't helpful at all

[Normal]
  1. 00:31:918 (1,2) - How about make a blanket? It looks beautiful with blanket here . Move the red anchor point (third node) to 132|68 to make it . Moreover, this shape will support pronounced vocals over it, so everything will be balanced
    SPOILER
  2. 01:06:520 (1) - Bend to the opposite side? Besides of more intuitive to follow, this curve will more indicate previous object afterwards
  3. 02:08:803 (1) - To make it consistent over the sequence, consider to add an anchor point to give a bit emphasis over the piano sound at 02:09:092 - like the others work next section, 02:11:110 (1,1,1) -
[Together]
  1. 00:29:611 (1) - I would like to put a jump too here, because the vocals goes louder and there's a drum which supported it so it's capable to make it
  2. 00:38:550 (6,1) - Maybe don't stack them, because 00:38:838 (1) - needs a bit emphasis by just keep a movement to it because sound here is rather loud and almost same important with 00:38:550 (6) - , which are strong because of vocals and piano
  3. 00:52:967 (2,3) - Their spacing enlarged, but why don't do it to 00:54:121 (5,7,1) - too? (5) and (7) sounds similar to (2) and (3) in terms of vocal, and (1) is used to start new stanza, so why not
  4. 00:57:292 (1) - Feels to sudden to put jump here, because there's not enough things to make it really capable being spaced like this, I mean, there's more beat which are capable to make it but you didn't put a jump to it
  5. 00:59:599 - Missed out this beat really unfortunate, consider to move the spinner afterwards to provide space for being filled by an object to emphasis the current beat
  6. 01:16:900 (4) - Needs some movement, because the song goes stronger at this beat . Regarding to this, a movement really nice to build up rhythm here for 01:18:054 (1) -
  7. 01:45:447 (1) - As a jump shown at 01:46:600 (4,1) - which have similar rhythm with this slider 01:45:447 (1) - , stack doesn't really works well . I guess you need some movement to this to pronounce the jump right after
  8. 02:30:718 (3,4,5,6) - They're noticed in gameplay and looks crowded . Maybe, moving out (4) to somewhere around 464|208 should help to fix this point
[]
Good Luck!
ZLOdeuka-
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Joined June 2009
ZLOdeuka-

Ipas wrote:

Hello, as your request!
I guess they're all will be unimportant suggestions, but I will do the best, sorry If it wasn't helpful at all

[Together]
  1. 00:29:611 (1) - I would like to put a jump too here, because the vocals goes louder and there's a drum which supported it so it's capable to make it not fixed
  2. 00:38:550 (6,1) - Maybe don't stack them, because 00:38:838 (1) - needs a bit emphasis by just keep a movement to it because sound here is rather loud and almost same important with 00:38:550 (6) - , which are strong because of vocals and piano not fixed
  3. 00:52:967 (2,3) - Their spacing enlarged, but why don't do it to 00:54:121 (5,7,1) - too? (5) and (7) sounds similar to (2) and (3) in terms of vocal, and (1) is used to start new stanza, so why not fixed
  4. 00:57:292 (1) - Feels to sudden to put jump here, because there's not enough things to make it really capable being spaced like this, I mean, there's more beat which are capable to make it but you didn't put a jump to it not fixed
  5. 00:59:599 - Missed out this beat really unfortunate, consider to move the spinner afterwards to provide space for being filled by an object to emphasis the current beat fixed
  6. 01:45:447 (1) - As a jump shown at 01:46:600 (4,1) - which have similar rhythm with this slider 01:45:447 (1) - , stack doesn't really works well . I guess you need some movement to this to pronounce the jump right after not fixed
  7. 02:30:718 (3,4,5,6) - They're noticed in gameplay and looks crowded . Maybe, moving out (4) to somewhere around 464|208 should help to fix this point fixed
[]
Good Luck!
Thank You! :>

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meii18
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meii18

Ipas wrote:

Hello, as your request!
I guess they're all will be unimportant suggestions, but I will do the best, sorry If it wasn't helpful at all

[Normal]
  1. 00:31:918 (1,2) - How about make a blanket? It looks beautiful with blanket here . Move the red anchor point (third node) to 132|68 to make it . Moreover, this shape will support pronounced vocals over it, so everything will be balanced
    SPOILER
    I prefer to keep as it is
  2. 01:06:520 (1) - Bend to the opposite side? Besides of more intuitive to follow, this curve will more indicate previous object afterwards of course fixed :)
  3. 02:08:803 (1) - To make it consistent over the sequence, consider to add an anchor point to give a bit emphasis over the piano sound at 02:09:092 - like the others work next section, 02:11:110 (1,1,1) - I prefer to keep it as a curved slider
[Together]
  1. 01:16:900 (4) - Needs some movement, because the song goes stronger at this beat . Regarding to this, a movement really nice to build up rhythm here for 01:18:054 (1) - fixed
[]
Good Luck! Thanks :3
Thanks for mod Ipas! Updated!
Sieg
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Sieg
oHi ByBy :3
meii18
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meii18

Sieg wrote:

oHi ByBy :3
hi Sieg \w/
gameuse_old
39 posts
Joined November 2013
gameuse_old
Hi
Your song is very beautiful and the song is also very well mapped (both diffs). Im amazed! :D
Idk if you agree with me or not (probably ask others for advice as well)
I believe that if you want to make this song a little more spooky or actually have a mysterious tone to it you should consider adding more uninherited points and make the volume a bit more quieter at these points

*01:02:483
*01:04:790
*01:07:096
*01:08:826
*01:13:152
*01:15:458
*01:17:765
*01:25:551
*01:33:913
*01:37:085
*01:37:085

Anyways, great song, looking forward for it to being ranked soon
meii18
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meii18
@gameuse maybe you forgot to re-update the map. There's no any unsnapped green line.Anyway thanks and I'm glad that you like my mapset! (:

Ugh I wasn't careful.Forgive me.I don't need more green lines for now sorry :c They're fine the current one.Also thanks again for checking my map!
Blizs
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Joined November 2013
Blizs
We'll be Together Again

Nyahahaha~~~~~

General

  1. Maybe you will need some things on the tags (see Sieg's mapset for reference). And don't forget to add your old nick and ZLOdeuka- this time ;)
  2. Overall custom hitsound 1 and custom hitsound 2 have a same hitsound. The different between them was just the soft-hitfinish. rather than make the 2nd customm hitsound that makes the file size wasted, how about use the 2nd hitfinish as different sampleset ? like normal-hitfinish and use additions hitsounding for it.

Together

  1. 00:43:452 (5) - Since the nest not was above this slider, how about use a simple curve to the top ? or if you want to keep the wave slider, just ctrl+j on it and move it up a bit to keep the flow from the previous note.
  2. 00:51:237 (2,1) - The way they are. I know they are still not touched, but they Almost touched and make things looks weird if I play it. I suggest to move it a bit. maybe something like this.
  3. 00:59:023 (4,5,1) - I'm not really sure if 3 times stack in 1/4 is a good idea here. Just this one have 3 times stack in 1/4 in the whole mapset and looks kinda broke the pattern. how about try this pattern for 00:58:446 (3,4,5,1) - ? I think it will give a better flow for this.
  4. 02:57:246 (1) - how about make the 1st curve curved in other way ? to give a better transition from the previous note.

Normal

  1. 01:10:845 (1,2,3) - I prefer this pattern => 01:20:072 (1,2) - because it follow the vocal like you did on the other part. (same too 01:29:299 (1,2) - )
    Just that :33

The mapset looks very well mapped and I can't point out anything more >w<
Good Luck!!!

got 100 on the last note lol
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