1. Inner Oni (5,48 stars, 1898 notes)

OzzyOzrock wrote:

you can't live if your ON FIRE

1. 00:09:545 (2,3,4,5) - k
2. 00:23:787 - kkd?
3. 00:24:242 - kdd?
4. 00:30:757 (131,132) - ctrl g?
5. 00:37:727 (177,185) - dem modding without reason whehe, 00:37:727 (177,185) - is don for this pitch, so 00:38:181 - this kat
6. 00:52:424 (264,265) - try kat, and 00:52:878 - this too?
7. fek yeh scrolling2x2xx2x
8. 03:35:151 - ngenyeaaahhh
9. 04:04:242 - kat pitch, and Don pitch *kkkkkkD*
10. lel forget this ^, maybe 04:04:318 - put note, 04:04:242 - or make kkk form here.
11. 04:05:681 - don
12. 04:06:211 (19,20,21) - kat?
13. 04:17:424 - okay............... :^) dem this. huft 04:20:075 - have rest like song OzziOzrok - blabla
14. okay this, just dem hue mod. dem, waiting player hit 04:17:424 - this... in qualifih. bye.

Surono wrote:

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>Besi

1. 00:09:545 (2,3,4,5) - k eh no...they're drum hits
2. 00:23:787 - kkd? honestly I think I'm not gonna accept any suggestions related to these pattersn along all the song unless they sound reaaaally good xD
3. 00:24:242 - kdd? kkd sounds better lol
4. 00:30:757 (131,132) - ctrl g? would cause inconsistency, as I'm normally following k k d d k -> k k d k k -> k k k d k
5. 00:37:727 (177,185) - dem modding without reason whehe, 00:37:727 (177,185) - is don for this pitch, so 00:38:181 - this kat no, in some parts I used k's as support beats, while here I used all d's
6. 00:52:424 (264,265) - try kat, and 00:52:878 - this too? they flow better as d's imo
7. fek yeh scrolling2x2xx2x wat
8. 03:35:151 - ngenyeaaahhh wat^2
9. 04:04:242 - kat pitch, and Don pitch *kkkkkkD* what????
10. lel forget this ^, maybe 04:04:318 - put note, 04:04:242 - or make kkk form here. there is no sound...
11. 04:05:681 - don there is no sound
12. 04:06:211 (19,20,21) - kat? why? XD
13. 04:17:424 - okay............... :^) dem this. huft 04:20:075 - have rest like song OzziOzrok - blabla bleble
14. okay this, just dem hue mod. dem, waiting player hit 04:17:424 - this... in qualifih. bye lel dem sir

nika mika wrote:

Hi Raiden!
M4M wanted so i post a mod here

IGNITE THE HEART AND MAKE IT APPROVED

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:20:151 (65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72) - d kkk d kkk d? flows better as it is now I think
2. 00:23:787 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95) - same here, but if u need some variation i suggest 95 as d same ^
3. 00:34:696 (156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163) - a bit curious why you changed the rhythm here not a rhythm change, just a denser pattern. The rhythm stays the same lol
4. 00:43:939 - add d
5. 00:51:211 - ^ both the same answer. If you can see I consistently alternate between having note and not having note in these parts
6. 01:14:696 (394,395,396,398,399,400) - ddk then kkd I think it's fine how it is now
7. 01:27:575 - add a note here?
8. 01:34:848 - ^ No to both. The vocals part will not have 5-plets
9. 02:16:515 (776) - should be a d to follow your previous pattern The k is intended to be a support beat for the patterns that are coming
10. 02:25:605 - i suggest the spinner ends here when the bass is weak enough for players to ignore it..and some break as well The spinner is fine as it is now, since players will have more than enough time to hit it entirely. This is not osu!standard
11. 02:27:272 - add d there is no drum hit until 02:27:424 -
12. 02:27:424 (1) - k drum hit, would sound really weird as a k
13. 02:41:969 (84) - 02:42:424 (88) - k dkk dkk gives a nicer feeling towards the end of the pattern
14. 02:42:575 (90) - d
15. 02:49:393 (128) - k
16. 02:54:848 - k
17. 03:02:121 - d
18. 03:03:787 (212,213,214,215) - all d No to all 5. Sorry I think they work just fine xD
19. 03:37:878 (418) - delete or move to 03:37:272 -
20. 03:41:515 (430) - move to 03:40:908 -
21. 03:41:060 (430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479,480,481,482,483,484,485,486) - i suggest you remap this part using previous patterns like 03:33:787 (407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418) - lol no, it's fine as it is
    also add some note each sentence as a fade-in effect /me runs
22. 04:02:727 - while the most of players dont tap last note of the spinner exactly here, if u want to keep this rhythm i suggest u made the spinner shorter and add a d here there is no hit here, would be a bit, uh nonsense to put a note xD
23. 04:20:075 - 04:22:499 - 04:23:408 - 04:24:621 - fill in the blanks no lol, the stream is strictly made to guitar, and there are rest moments/held notes here
24. 04:36:666 - add any note nooo
25. 04:43:939 - ^ ^
    well i noticed that u try to make dk kd dk and rhythm like x xxx x xxx..... in order to keep a variance between normal patterns such as x xx xxxxx xx xx xxxxxxxx, i still recommend you add make the doublets part the same like 04:36:666 - add any note and 04:43:939 - ^ I don't think I would agree with those arrangements lol
26. 05:21:666 (227,229) - d
27. 05:22:045 - k
28. 05:22:272 (235,236) - d I think they all flow better like this right now ^ (to all 3)
29. 05:30:151 - add a D here and move the spinner right after it? I think the sound isn't emphasizable enough to deserve a Finisher. Also, the long note held by the vocalist calls for a shaker, so I put a shaker.

Nice song nice map! I havent listen to rock songs for ages and this song is rather good thanks! But this is symphonic metal lol
maybe i should re-download some bought rock albums again.....

FastBoy wrote:

[Inner Oni]
the notes placed in the period from 00:39:242 to 00:53:787 is just similar to those in the period from 00:53:787 to 01:22:878
but actually there are lyrics in the latter period
so we can think that two periods are different
my suggestion is to place notes base on the lyrics and the singer's sound in the latter period it's similar but not 100%. It's intentional

01:24:545 (452,453,454,455) - dk kd no... the snare+drum works kd dk
01:25:908 (459,460) - swap why?
01:28:333 (471,472) - swap ^
01:28:636 (474) - d I use the same notes to support the patterns, sorry
01:28:863 (476,477) - swap they are fine now
01:29:242 (479,482) - d but why??

really nice map Ow< thanks!
good luck~

Baraatje123 wrote:

YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THE FIRE
NOR WHITHOUT THE APPROVAL FLAME

Nwolf wrote:

As requested (I doubt there's any harm in doing this) the TNA concerns with this:

Generally a nice 1/3+1/6 map

Final SV doesn't play well
Kiai needs minor fixes cause kat rhythm gets a bit weird
"Patterns are very flat, too few ups and downs." / Some need minor fixes (maybe self-mod it and watch for some slightly inconsistent/weird spots cause the structures are actually fine, it's the hitsounds/colors mostly)

1. Within Temptation - Iron
   
   1. Pattern arrangement needs improvement.
   2. Final SV is too extreme.

Final SV doesn't play well
Kiai needs minor fixes cause kat rhythm gets a bit weird
"Patterns are very flat, too few ups and downs." / Some need minor fixes (maybe self-mod it and watch for some slightly inconsistent/weird spots cause the structures are actually fine, it's the hitsounds/colors mostly)

Aldwych wrote:

Special Mod for TNA.

I'll try to respond as much as possible about the problems mentioned.

1. Within Temptation - Iron
   
   1. Pattern arrangement needs improvement.
   2. Final SV is too extreme.

Final SV doesn't play well
Kiai needs minor fixes cause kat rhythm gets a bit weird
"Patterns are very flat, too few ups and downs." / Some need minor fixes (maybe self-mod it and watch for some slightly inconsistent/weird spots cause the structures are actually fine, it's the hitsounds/colors mostly)

[Pattern issues]

00:23:636 (87 & 91) : Your current pattern has too much k. You really should go on d with these 2. Now the k are more consistent with the music and hearable. I don't see the problem on having more k to differentiate from previous pattern really

00:28:030 : This one should go d too. If you analyse slowly the previous note. It's quite different. This current note is more like the next one. the k is necessary. Has different feeling than 00:24:393 (94) - . Also it sounds better as k

00:41:818 : Imo that should be d k k k d d d k. Vocals in the begining and then battery. starting the pattern with a k sounds better I think

[Structure issues]

00:43:484++ : Well faq your doublets. In that case try to add a k in order to do dkkkd. That's quite nice and less boring. Actually you're doublets make me sleeping. what...? No dude that'd cause biggggg inconsistencies in the following patterns (also I cannot care less that you fall asleep lol)

[Personnal opinion]

00:09:696 : That's more up to you, but because of the guitar you can go k aswell strictly followed drum hits here

00:45:605 : Triple k coz vocal changements? changed in a different way

Saving the mod

00:58:939 : The fact that you've nothing here makes the pattern not symetrical. :/ Maybe noone cares but lel. nah, it's symmetrical, like 01:06:363 (345,346,347,348) -

01:07:727 : Maybe go as ddk instead since the next k part are the same than the end of the triplet. Also maybe easier to play and lecture. I feel ending the pattern with a k gives easier time hitting the next d

01:08:636++ : Man no. 5 doublets is just so weird. I know we can do better here m9. Did you tried at 01:09:090 kdddkdkd ? weird? what? no dude it's bootyful

01:15:908++ : Same here. That's not an accurate place to do doublets. It doesn't fit well. You can go on the same way as above. it's accurate... the thing you suggested sounds really weird considering the structure I use

01:28:181++ : This set is not really consistent with what you did before. Actually, you're using ABBA pattern structure. And here you go for AABB (just look on the streams pattern). 01:22:878 - is the start of a new measure: hence the patterns will be slightly different. It is even bookmarked >->

01:30:908 : I don't feel good with this kkddk. Imo kddk is better because you rarelly staring with kkd pattern. changed differently: good catch

01:59:696 : Not enough d here. :< Maybe go for k here. Accurate way with vocals (yea blabla not follow vocals on taiko blabla). exactly :>

02:15:454 : You should follow somether else like guitar here. Go for k x2 ? nu, check other parts like this

02:21:211 : I think you should stop your spinner at 02:26:969, if someone fails (yea it's an inner Oni Noone decent taiko player failed on spiner lololol you scumbag), he has to react for 1/3. plsssssssss spacing between note+spinner should be 1/2 (1/3 in this case) u silly goose

02:28:636 : Thoose doublets asga. >o< got problem with them? fite me irl bro

02:41:969 : This is the only quint of the pattern, maybe a bit strange. aka every second measure I make denser pattern to differentiate from the first. I think it's quite obvious :^^^)

-- Start of third part (yea triple post baby!) --

03:04:242 I don't find the reason why you only got 1 d on this stream. I mean why no full k? Maybe you should go for d here as well it seems that previously you used d onlt for main battery. This seems to be an accurate place. I tried several patterns, and the best one I found was this one (in fact it was all k's before)

03:10:151 Your finishers are not really regular. I mean around this section you have none because of the long pattern and i'ts make like xx.x. Maybe you can have an arrengment? They are regular lol... it's just a different pattern

03:13:787 All your finisher around here are D so why here it's K? Also the K are not as intense as the D one. I don't think that's a good idea to go for K. Oh well you go for K after on the same section. But so the one at 03:06:515 should be K too. Kept to differentiate from first kiai. Also it's a good deep hit that would fit both as K and D

03:24:696 So here you got your finishers but not on the other one. Maybe it's intended but not sexy. So i think you should go on the same way for the previous patterns. dude look at the patterns, it has a clear arrangement

03:36:211 Delete? Nicer for me. But no real reason else xD this part was way less denser before. I think the part has nicer density right now, not really making higher nor lower

03:41:060 YOu should go D. Kinda new section here. I don't consider it emphasizable enough for a finisher

03:48:333 Finisher too. same

03:55:605 ^ ^

04:19:318 Swap this and the next 3. You put the d on higher sounds of the guitar. woops fixed

-- end of the third part --

DarkVortex wrote:

Random mod because epic song and you modded my map as well. (Also for TNA )

[General]
How about cutting the sound at the very beginning away? Sounds like the end of "Fire and Ice" but honestly this sounds weird as it's not part of the song.
HP=6 or even 7? The map is ridiculously easy to pass for 5.55* due to only one stream part and mostly easier patterns throughout the map.

I prefer easy passes on my approval maps.

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[Inner Oni]
00:09:545 (2,3,4,5) - These sound like snares. Maybe turn them into k? yeah they are snare hits, but they also sound like deep hits and the beginning has the lower tone feeling
00:16:818 (46,47,48,49) - Descending drums here. Currently it's fine with k though k k d d would emphasize the descension a bit more. I maintained a high number of k's to differ from previous measure
00:21:060 (73) - This finisher feels out of place imo as you mapped to the strongest crashes before like 00:10:151 (6,28,50) - Here isn't such a crash though and 00:22:878 (83) - would be rather worth putting a finish on. that'd break consistency. I use it at the end of every measure
00:27:575 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - How about dkd k d k D ? Fits the bassdrum on 00:27:727 (114,116) - well, doesn't feel tensed to play and is consistent with the D from 00:24:696 (96) - has clear different feeling (and higher tone) from last part, thus the different pattern + additional k's
00:30:757 (131,132,133) - For me this one sounds more like d k d as the snare is on 00:30:908 (132) - then I'd have to change everything on the patterns like these: look closely to the patterns behind it.
00:31:060 (133,139) - Add finishers here? added notes instead for consistency with other parts
00:31:969 (141) - D for consistency with 00:24:696 (96) - / K if you put the 2 finishers from above no: the measures starting from that part have considerably higher tone, hence the K's

Other idea: 00:31:060 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - K d K d K d K to follow the crashes. Also provides some variance to parts like 00:23:787 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - I prefer how it is now... besides I'd have to change again every pattern like this

00:38:181 (181) - k for snare support beats for the patterns are the same through all the song (either all d's or all k's)
00:39:848 - Why is this left out? It makes me sad actually as this goes on at 00:40:757 - 00:41:666 - 00:43:484 - 00:44:393 - 00:47:121 - 00:48:030 - 00:48:939 - 00:50:757 - 00:51:666 - to name a few. You should overthink your patterning here imo no... it is fine as it is now. It has a note every 2nd measure and it sounds fine

00:52:424 (265) - This should have a k as well as 00:52:878 (269) - why?
00:52:878 (269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278) - Descending motion while your patterns are ascending. Put kdddd or something similar instead it's rather a "static" motion

Missing beats on 00:54:393 - 00:55:302 - 00:56:211 - and so on again. Maybe it's intended but I'm too stupid to get why xD intended... it flows better like that

01:08:333 (362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380) - Feels so copy & pasted. Starting on 01:08:333 - another instrument joins in so one possible way would be to add slightly more density to this part. ehh no... it would cause inconsistency

01:22:575 (446) - k a d is easier to hit since the previous pattern ends in a k. Also sounds equally good
Starting on 01:35:605 - How about this instead? http://puu.sh/jY59B/2ee801481f.png The 7-plet should be starting here 01:36:060 - changed differently

02:28:939 - etc. Missing beats (still didn't get why) same answer
02:34:545 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - the same pattern twice? how about making the second one kkk intended, the motion is rather static
02:49:242 (127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134) - kkddk kkd fits better imo changed differently
03:03:787 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222) - uhh why a long stream here? variation from previous kiai start
03:07:878 (242,243) - swap these two to k d for the sake of the vocal and snare it sounds good as it is now, there is no snare hit here
03:57:121 - add d that part is dense enough xd

part starting on 04:02:878 - adding more density would lead into the stream better. example: from 04:04:242 (6) - http://puu.sh/jY6aI/c67154ffd4.jpg no sorry, that'd mean mapping to silence (not my style)
04:20:151 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127) - dkkdkdkdkkddk why?? the stream is fitting the guitar notes
04:27:424 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - K d K d K d K would fit nicely here same answer as a bit before
05:14:318 (176) - this k doesn't seem to fit imo it does... can use to accompany vocals
05:28:939 (276,277) - swap to kd? sounds good as dk as well lol
05:30:151 - finisher required to finish this map off I'll think about it

That's it I think. Good luck to get this ranked! thanks!!