1. Inner Oni (4.96 stars, 1851 notes)

Modders

Nekulebrius Okazaki
Lepidopodus
Charlotte
Niko-nyan
-Sh1n1-
Liger Zero (?)
Nwolf (from TNA)
Geromon
lolcubes
Pop Bubble by me ._. (fatal errors catched by lolcubes)
newyams99
App by Volta
my cocoro was broken by IamKwaN
Geromon Rebubble #1
Volta Rebubble #2
App by IamKwaN

Ranking Criteria de Taiko wrote:

No debe haber notas con finish al inicio o durante un patrón en 1/4. Esto es para asegurar la jugabilidad de todos los patrones, al estar las notas con finish al inicio o durante un patrón en 1/4 han sido consideradas problemáticas al jugar.

Ranking Criteria de Taiko wrote:

Las notas con finish pueden ser usadas al final de un patrón en 1/4 bajo las siguientes condiciones
La nota con finisher debe estar mapeada a un sonido razonable.
La nota anterior a la nota con finisher debe ser de color opuesto.
La nota anterior no debe cubrir a la nota con finisher más del 50%

Neku okazaki wrote:

In-Game request

This isnt important (?
Unrankeable
Important
"^"

[El coso ese]
00:22:880 (42) - 00:28:505 (94) - Parece que lo hiciste al azar, trata de hacer algo como:
00:23:231 (45,46) - Ctrl + G
00:24:168 (53,54) -
00:27:567 (82,83,84,85) - Aqui puedes cambiar todos estos a k
00:28:192 (90,91,92) -

En toda esta zona te das cuenta que hice cambios dependiendo del sonido en tal ... es una cancion app, obviamente no iba a dejar todo al azar (y tampoco todo igual)
En esta 1ra seccion son de 4 en 4 por el sonido "crazy!, crazy!, crazy!", en la siguiente se combina esa énfasis con el cambio de scratch, en la siguiente igual se combina el scratch con el 2-1-2-1-2-1 que incluso pongo completo en el final


00:33:895 (106) - Escucho claramente el mismo sonido que en 00:33:661 (105) -
00:35:770 (114) -
00:47:254 (163) - Empieza a cantar y tiene un sonido fuerte, te recomiendo que lo cambies a k
00:48:426 (168) - En esta parte puedes seguir la voz, te recomiendo quitarlo, es mucho mejor
00:51:473 (180) -
00:52:176 (182) -
00:57:801 (206) -
00:58:973 (210) -
01:12:099 (270) -

No puedo borrar notas debido que sigo los "claps" de fondo que en si no tiene break y trato de acoplarlo lo mejor posible al vocal ... asi que hice cambios que vayan mas pegados a vocal/claps de fondo


00:56:083 - Tiene un sonido muy notorio, deberías agregar un d << cambie la 01:01:145
01:05:301 (238,240) - Puedes cambiarlos a k, suena mejor <<< esta si .-.
01:23:114 (313,316) - Queda mejor con d << me la pienso demasiado en esta nota (y las similares), asi que quedará en consideracion ...
01:28:739 (332,335) - <<< nou .-.
01:27:801 (329) - Overmapped? <<< donde?


01:39:989 (383,384) - Ctrl + G, como al principio
01:41:160 (393) - Cambialo a k
01:42:099 (401) - d

Lo mismo con la explicacion del principio ...


02:00:614 (523,526) - Los d otra vez <<< misma consideracion ...
De 02:17:255 (628) - 02:20:536 (656) - Probablemente la cosa mas aburrida que e visto, trata de cambiarlo
02:24:755 (676) -

02:18:191 (636) - Claramente unrankeable
02:20:066 (652) -
02:25:691 (684) -
02:27:566 (700) -

Dake no hizo objecion de esto pero ya entre tanto tester (S a n d, niko nyan, Nyan, Alepat y Kriston) me han dicho de que si eso debo cambiarlo si o si, asi que a ver que puedo hacer en todas estas secciones, ya el resto solo es borrar...

Ranking Criteria de Taiko wrote:

No debe haber notas con finish al inicio o durante un patrón en 1/4. Esto es para asegurar la jugabilidad de todos los patrones, al estar las notas con finish al inicio o durante un patrón en 1/4 han sido consideradas problemáticas al jugar.

De 02:28:505 (706) - a 02:28:739 (709) - Muy feo y no tiene ritmo
De 02:29:442 (714) - a 02:29:676 (717) -
02:35:301 (732) - Como el principio si estas siguiendo la voz, que eso es lo que parece
02:38:348 (744) -

Bueno, al parecer el resto es casi los mismos problemas, mira el mapa basándote en lo que te dije para cambiar varias cosas, este mod se haría esterno si continuo.

Antes de que me digas que se pueden agregar notas con 1/4 en finish la regla tambien dice esto:

Ranking Criteria de Taiko wrote:

Las notas con finish pueden ser usadas al final de un patrón en 1/4 bajo las siguientes condiciones
La nota con finisher debe estar mapeada a un sonido razonable.
La nota anterior a la nota con finisher debe ser de color opuesto.
La nota anterior no debe cubrir a la nota con finisher más del 50%

Todo ese ranking criteria me la pela (ok no XD) ... pero si, voy a tener que modificar todo esto de acuerdo a no dejar finish durante streams y cosas asi...

Buena suerte ~

lepidopodus wrote:

[Dons & Katsus]

- Generally nice and well-struected :3 <<< Thanks -w-

* 00:17:255 (15) - In previous measure you start with kat. In order to make slight change in pattern, (cause decresendo is there) how about making this kat and keep 00:19:130 (24) & 00:21:005 (33) don? <<< before this mod I had the notes as you mention but apparently was not a good idea to change them ...

* 00:32:255 (99) ~ 01:02:020 (228) - Lower hitsound volume a bit? <<< I did not plan to implement hitsound volume but apparently necessary.

* 00:58:035 (211,212) - Try something like 00:50:536 (177,178,179) or 00:54:285 (194,195,196)? <<< the truth was empty that site ._.

* 01:06:005 (248) ~ 01:09:521 (263) - You used 1/2 only pattern in pervious parts a lot, so I advise you to add some notes in this part. Just one or two more will work too. Just for example, like 01:06:239 (249,250) to kkd. <<< added some notes .-.

* 01:36:005 (382) - Similar with 00:17:255 (15). <<< correct ...

* 02:17:958 (654) & 02:25:457 (700) - Just my preference but I prefer kat here since pitch goes up near here. Not so important though. <<< is better ...

* 02:44:911 (788,789) - Similar with 00:58:035 (211,212). <<< correct

* 02:49:129 (808) ~ 03:03:895 (872) - Definatley more sound compared with 02:34:130 (740) ~ 02:49:012 (807), but currently this part has less note than that. Try adding few more notes? (Though you should think about very next part too.) <<< added notes ...

* 03:36:005 (1020) - Similar with 00:17:255 (15). <<< good

* 04:00:380 (1176) ~ 04:02:020 (1188) - Hmm, this might break the flow. This part is 4-time-repeatition of the first meaure, as you know, and you made sudden change of pattern on here. <<< a bit change but no have effect .. changed .-.

* 04:13:505 (1258,1259,1260) - Actually I expected kdk cause you used kdk in other measures. <<< a notes swap and ready .-.

* 04:19:832 (1301) & 04:27:332 (1347) - Similar with 02:17:958 (654) & 02:25:457 (700). You don't have to change all of them though. <<< all correct

* 04:36:005 (1397) - Similar with 00:17:255 (15).

* 05:11:630 (1632) ~ 05:13:270 (1644) - If you want to change to different pattern, I guess it would be better to start with here, not 05:13:505 (1645).

no reply = same fix without arguments...

Actually I don't have much issues to pick out, hope my mod didn't disrupt your own sytle. Good luck.

1. d is don note
2. k is kat note
3. D is big don note
4. K is big kat note

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  Good?

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  00:47:257 - add finish.I hear big sound.
  
  02:09:169 (599,600) - This pattern is allowed? (1/4-kD) sorry.I don't know.
  
  02:14:918 - add 1/6 dddk.You can try it.
  
  02:18:547 - change to k.I hear little high.
  
  02:26:040 - ^
  
  02:43:734 - add 1/4 kdk.I think follow the vocal.
  
  02:48:895 (813,814) - move to 1/4 left. & 02:49:126 - add finish. same as 00:47:257 -
  
  02:58:733 - add 1/4 kdk.
  
  03:08:227 - add k.follow the vocal
  
  03:11:980 - add d.^
  
  04:16:787 - add 1/6 kkkk.for consistency 04:15:384 -
  
  04:20:424 - same as 02:18:547 -
  
  04:27:922 - ^

Charlotte wrote:

Hi~ from m4m

[ about]

1. d is don note
2. k is kat note
3. D is big don note
4. K is big kat note

[ General]

• 
  
  Good? -w-

[ Dons & Katsus]

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  00:47:257 - add finish.I hear big sound. <<< He had no plans to put big notes in this section but considering those sounds maybe necessary, but is K (have snare sound)
  
  02:09:169 (599,600) - This pattern is allowed? (1/4-kD) sorry.I don't know. <<< No have problems with this pattern but in consideration ...
  
  02:14:918 - add 1/6 dddk.You can try it. <<< It can be good, but I need a second opinion about it ...
  
  02:18:547 - change to k.I hear little high. <<< follow a pattern 1 - 2 - 2 - 3 and then another sequence , if I put that note would be as a sequence 1 - (2-1) - 2 - (3-2) changing note 02:20:419- to k to balance the sequence (would sound something weird ) --- Need a second opinion about this
  
  02:26:040 - ^ <<< Same
  
  02:43:734 - add 1/4 kdk.I think follow the vocal. <<< Good
  
  02:48:895 (813,814) - move to 1/4 left. & 02:49:126 - add finish. same as 00:47:257 - <<< This had thought of this to apply what lepidopodus said.
  
  02:58:733 - add 1/4 kdk. <<< Good
  
  03:08:227 - add k.follow the vocal <<< good
  
  03:11:980 - add d.^ <<< focusing in previous sequence with triples?? ... is rare but good
  
  04:16:787 - add 1/6 kkkk.for consistency 04:15:384 - <<< Same reason
  
  04:20:424 - same as 02:18:547 - <<< Same reason
  
  04:27:922 - ^ Same

Good map~.Good luck 。/

Charlotte wrote:

02:14:918 - add 1/6 dddk.You can try it. <<< It can be good, but I need a second opinion about it ...

02:18:547 - change to k.I hear little high. <<< follow a pattern 1 - 2 - 2 - 3 and then another sequence , if I put that note would be as a sequence 1 - (2-1) - 2 - (3-2) changing note 02:20:419- to k to balance the sequence (would sound something weird ) --- Need a second opinion about this

xtrem3x wrote:

Changes:

Inherited Points snapped in adequate place (in sequence with decrease)
Added Accelerators in slow parts
increace velocity in last sequence

Next mod, need opinions about this ...

Charlotte wrote:

02:14:918 - add 1/6 dddk.You can try it. <<< It can be good, but I need a second opinion about it ...

02:18:547 - change to k.I hear little high. <<< follow a pattern 1 - 2 - 2 - 3 and then another sequence , if I put that note would be as a sequence 1 - (2-1) - 2 - (3-2) changing note 02:20:419- to k to balance the sequence (would sound something weird ) --- Need a second opinion about this

Niko-nyan wrote:

k here my blah mod :>

[General]
fine i think (?)

[Dons and Blah]
00:26:630 (74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - kdkdkdkd feel random for me. I prefer to change it to kkddkkdd <<< nou ... but in consideration...

00:52:294 - add a k would be more good for the flow <<< ok .-.

01:06:239 (250,251,252) - the pattern a bit vary with the current pitch. Prefer to swap 251,252 <<< is good .-.

01:24:755 (338,340,342) - where is the finishers? Both's pitch is same with 01:17:255 (305,307,309) - <<< I had thought a lot about this but need 2nd opinion (have 2 previous finishers very notorious, but in this part is Questionable)

02:14:208 (639,640,641,642) - i didn't feel any flow here, prefer to change it to dddk << is good .-.

02:17:255 - please check my opinion first above. I prefer to make it more flow so here is the suggestion until 02:24:755 - (you just need to repeat it)
kddkddk k kkddk k dkddk k ddk k k kk kk D kdd kdk kk kk D kdd kdk <<< is correct .-. but my way XD

02:54:169 - i prefer to move (843) to here. There is a sound here (vocal but when you put the 843 at 02:54:637 - no sound in there <<< follow previous slow sequence ..

02:57:801 (858,859,860) - Current pitch at 859 is low btw. I prefer to change to kdk to following the vocal's pitch <<< ok .-.

03:26:630 (998,1000,1002) - same reason about finishers. Add finishers to both 3, to make much flow (also there is drum sound) <<< Same, in consideration .-.

03:43:505 - using the first pattern is much preferable to make more flow and more dense <<< every similar sequence have different colors (to avoid falling into monotony)

04:19:130 - also the same reason as 02:17:255 - and you just need to repeat it <<< yeah .-.

need more check about the patterning. Really annoying for me

Nwolf wrote:

weff

[General]

Note: This beatmap I did improvised and drunk XD

Change diff name to "Inner Oni" << ok .-.

Add "touhou" in tags <<< .-.

Change all soft hitsounds to Normal as normal is incredibly quiet on taiko skin (also no purpose in doing soft) <<< ... I had my doubts .-.

ALL NINJA NOTES: They overlap with other notes. They don't feel right as the sound is completely different from what you follow generally. Not really necessary to have them. <<< is experimental, then deleted inherited points.

00:15:380 - to 00:22:880 - I would recommend to reconsider the 1/4 mainly because the song would suggest a doublet (for example: 00:15:731 (8,9) - only these, remove 00:15:614 (7) - ). It will help to differ the parts as well <<< Is possible but leave this in consideration .. is for emphasis in tatsujin style and more "stable" density (and for emphasis in "kiss" ...)

00:26:630 (73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - You know people will hate you for this, right? : P <<< is possible but have a better idea?, need opinions about this.

00:32:255 - 01:17:255 - This part was mentioned in TNA and I will mention it again: You have to reduce the density a lot. It's not really entertaining to play and I'm gonna be honest, switching between 2/1 and 1/1 might even be more fun than continuous 1/2. Of course you can use 1/2 here, but I would recommend to add quite a few breaks in there. 00:32:489 (99,100,103,104) - Try deleting these for example.
When you get to the 1/4 in this part I would recommend deleting all of them as well. You can go for vocals a bit more and add 1/2 (still no 1/2 stream please) <<< follow BG sound, but if nessesary concentrate in vocal and possible breaks can try some...

01:17:255 - 01:21:005 - I really don't like how the rhythm changes from dons on white ticks to kats on white ticks, feels random and inconsistent. Choose one and keep it <<< is correct, I knew something was wrong before seeing this mod.

01:21:239 (327,329) - Change these to dons so 01:21:356 (328,330) - have more importance (gotta make the "OH" more important!). Repeat on all patterns that are like this <<< thought that sounded like the notes at par with voice, but with that change sounds better.

01:43:505 (441) - Change to don plays nicer <<< my error (<_<'')

01:54:169 (511,512) - As a solution to another TNA problem: Maybe just move 01:54:169 (511) - to 01:54:051 - OR remove it so the big note has a bigger impact. <<< Good (-w-)b

02:11:278 (622) - I know you are amazed by the new added sound but I think this overdoes it and removes the impact on the other 1/4 in this cluster <<< is possible but have BG Sound with discret drums and better change 02:11:161- to d

02:14:911 (653,654,655,656) - Listening to this in various speeds and there's no 1/6, so while I find many 1/6 in the 2nd half of this kiai questionable play-wise (like 02:09:989 (611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619) - and the other 1/6 in this stream) you should definitely remove this one. <<< is an Charlotte's suggest and is based in a discret BG Sound ... with volume 0% in sounds effects is possible hear this ... indeed, in 02:15:145- It is where it really should start other 1/6 stream.

02:20:419 (684,685,686,687,688,689,690,691) - Too many kats imo, they also don't really add much. 02:21:239 (688,690) - Change these to dons and for the sake of consistency make 02:21:942 (692) - a kat and remove the finisher on it (you don't do the D D pattern anyway)
About the kat doublets: We had that before at ~1:20 <<< 1 - less kats / 2 - D's notes are for consistence with other similar sequences but change for k's note is more notorious this sound ... is rare D:

02:29:442 (741,742,743,744) - Why is this 1/6 and not 1/4 <<< see down
02:30:145 (748,749,750) - why is this 1/4 and not 1/6 <<< same as 02:15:145- Good.

02:34:130 - 03:19:130 - Same 1/2 trouble as before <<< ok .-.

04:16:083 (1315,1316,1317,1318) - I doubt this plays well : P
04:16:786 (1322,1323,1324,1325) - Same as last kiai (mentioned in mod)
04:22:294 (1353,1354,1355,1356,1357,1358,1359,1360) - Also same as before
04:31:317 (1411,1412,1413,1414,1415,1416,1417,1418,1419,1420) - Also same as before <<<< all ok .-.

04:49:715 (1522) - Think this would play way nicer as a don, also emphasizes the sound on 04:49:598 (1521,1523) - better (repeat for whole part and reverse when it's dons) <<< is rare but ok .-.

Why are there so huge differences between those streams? Seems weird to me. I find the 2nd stream to be the most pleasant so you might wanna look at that... <<< yeah, is much difference ... but last stream is this ... final / hard / last chance, etc. XD ... but a little change

That's it!

Good luck