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tasuke912
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2015年9月29日 at 20:19:16

Artist: xi
Title: ANiMA
Source: Deemo
BPM: 183.5
Filesize: 3445kb
Play Time: 01:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.23 stars, 228 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (6.24 stars, 809 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.32 stars, 146 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3 stars, 368 notes)
  5. Oni (40.14 stars, 554 notes)
Download: xi - ANiMA
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#15

Kantan
Futsuu
Muzukashii
Oni
Inner Oni

Nyan
This is really good map, so I want to mod this.

[General]

  • -6 to all offset
[Kantan]

  • 01:26:989 (58,59,60) - can add Finish
    01:36:798 (72) - can add spinner this part, or not
[Futsuu]

  • 01:02:466 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136) - this is really rare pattern in Futsuu. k ddddk maybe
    01:33:529 - , 01:33:856 - can add d, d
    01:36:144 - , 01:36:471 - can add d, k
    01:41:703 (9,10,11) - this is really rare pattern in Futsuu. ddd
    01:45:627 (22,23,24) - ^
    01:47:916 (30,31,32,33,34) - ddddd or,

    (this is just a suggestion)
[Oni]

01:50:198 - , 01:50:852 - can ad ddd before big notes
Topic Starter
tasuke912

Nyan wrote:

mod
This is really good map, so I want to mod this.

[General]

  • -6 to all offset
[Kantan]

  • 01:26:989 (58,59,60) - can add Finish Applied
    01:36:798 (72) - can add spinner this part, or not no, i think beginner players need break here.
[Futsuu]

  • 01:02:466 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136) - this is really rare pattern in Futsuu. k ddddk maybe changed.
    01:33:529 - , 01:33:856 - can add d, d
    01:36:144 - , 01:36:471 - can add d, k no change, for better spread.
    01:41:703 (9,10,11) - this is really rare pattern in Futsuu. ddd dkd is not preblem on Futsuu.
    01:45:627 (22,23,24) - ^
    01:47:916 (30,31,32,33,34) - ddddd or, nope.

    (this is just a suggestion)
[Oni]

01:50:198 - , 01:50:852 - can ad ddd before big notes umm, keeping now.
Thanks for mod and star! :)
Raiden
Hey there tasu! M4M as promised :3

[General]
  1. Uncheck "Widescreen Support" since you're using no storyboard
  2. I'd make another kiai from 00:34:019 - to 00:44:482 -

[ Kantan]
  1. There is a very small amount of notes, consider going for HP9 or 10, otherwise the player can sit idle for 80-90% of the song, hit the last notes and still pass.
  2. 00:02:629 (2) - I honestly think this sounds different from the other 2, but I guess you wanted to simplify the pattern.
  3. 00:08:515 (6) - Same than before, this clearly sounds with a lower pitch, a d would fit better I think.
  4. 00:23:556 - 00:32:057 - There is no 4/1 break in between this span of time, consider removing some notes
  5. 00:44:482 - 00:53:638 - Same than above
  6. 01:01:485 (33,34,35) - Even though it sounds good, I think k d k might be a bit hard for a Kantan, change to k k k?
  7. Move the slider from 01:51:349 - to 01:51:512 - ? That way it won't overlap with the note
[ Futsuu]
  1. I'd consider SV 1.2 like Kantan
  2. Same suggestion than in Kantan, very low amount of notes, consider HP7-8
  3. Up until the first inherit point at 00:11:785 - I give you the same suggestion than in Kantan, turn some notes into d since they sound different and we're not in Kantan anymore
  4. 00:15:708 (12,13,14) - I think you don't need 3 finishers, with 1 or 2 it would be enough
  5. 01:05:409 - 01:10:640 - I'd consider deleting some notes in between for a small break
  6. 01:34:183 (181,182,183,184,185,186) - They sound the same than before, why K instead of D? Being repetitive doesn't imply being bad :P
[ Muzukashii]
  1. Same suggstion than in Kantan and Futsuu, before 00:11:785 - change some to d since they don't sound the same
  2. 00:15:708 (13,14,15) - Same suggestion than in Futsuu, I think you don't need 3 finishers
  3. 00:49:060 (155) - I think this should be a d (fits the pitch)
  4. 00:49:060 (155) - Add a k here?
  5. 01:48:896 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - I'd save this stream for the Oni, simplify it a bit.
[ Oni]
  1. Same suggestion than kantan futsuu and muzu xD (the part until 00:11:785 -

    Other than that, haven't found any more faults, maybe some parts in which you should remove some notes because of no breaks (non-kiai).

    [ Inner Oni]


    • I honestly am not very comfortable at modding these high difficulties
    1. Same suggestion than in Kantan about the first 10 seconds
    2. Some streams could be a bit improved in terms of pattern composition, but I liked pretty much all of them including the 1/3 and 1/6 ones. It's really well done in my opinion
That's all for now, sorry for the bad mods at Oni and Inner, those difficulties are still unreachable for me ;c
Topic Starter
tasuke912

Raiden wrote:

MOD
Hey there tasu! M4M as promised :3

[General]
  1. Uncheck "Widescreen Support" since you're using no storyboard - fixed
  2. I'd make another kiai from 00:34:019 - to 00:44:482 - no, but i'll reconsider it if other modders suggest same thing.
[ Kantan]
  1. There is a very small amount of notes, consider going for HP9 or 10, otherwise the player can sit idle for 80-90% of the song, hit the last notes and still pass. changed to 5.0.
  2. 00:02:629 (2) - I honestly think this sounds different from the other 2, but I guess you wanted to simplify the pattern.
  3. 00:08:515 (6) - Same than before, this clearly sounds with a lower pitch, a d would fit better I think. applied.
  4. 00:23:556 - 00:32:057 - There is no 4/1 break in between this span of time, consider removing some notes already there are enough breaks, so i won't delete notes here.
  5. 00:44:482 - 00:53:638 - Same than above ^
  6. 01:01:485 (33,34,35) - Even though it sounds good, I think k d k might be a bit hard for a Kantan, change to k k k? kdk(1/1)pattern is not hard on Kantan, so no change.
  7. Move the slider from 01:51:349 - to 01:51:512 - ? That way it won't overlap with the note
[ Futsuu]
  1. I'd consider SV 1.2 like Kantan SV1.4 is better because i used Big*1/2 pattern. it doesn't look crean if changed to 1.2.
  2. Same suggestion than in Kantan, very low amount of notes, consider HP7-8 - 5.0.
  3. Up until the first inherit point at 00:11:785 - I give you the same suggestion than in Kantan, turn some notes into d since they sound different and we're not in Kantan anymore
  4. 00:15:708 (12,13,14) - I think you don't need 3 finishers, with 1 or 2 it would be enough keeping now.
  5. 01:05:409 - 01:10:640 - I'd consider deleting some notes in between for a small break this pattern is not so hard on Futsuu.
  6. 01:34:183 (181,182,183,184,185,186) - They sound the same than before, why K instead of D? Being repetitive doesn't imply being bad :P
[ Muzukashii]
  1. Same suggstion than in Kantan and Futsuu, before 00:11:785 - change some to d since they don't sound the same
  2. 00:15:708 (13,14,15) - Same suggestion than in Futsuu, I think you don't need 3 finishers
  3. 00:49:060 (155) - I think this should be a d (fits the pitch) kkd(1/4)pattern is so hard on Muzu.
  4. 00:49:060 (155) - Add a k here?
  5. 01:48:896 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - I'd save this stream for the Oni, simplify it a bit.
[ Oni]
  1. Same suggestion than kantan futsuu and muzu xD (the part until 00:11:785 -

    Other than that, haven't found any more faults, maybe some parts in which you should remove some notes because of no breaks (non-kiai).

    [ Inner Oni]


    • I honestly am not very comfortable at modding these high difficulties
    1. Same suggestion than in Kantan about the first 10 seconds
    2. Some streams could be a bit improved in terms of pattern composition, but I liked pretty much all of them including the 1/3 and 1/6 ones. It's really well done in my opinion
That's all for now, sorry for the bad mods at Oni and Inner, those difficulties are still unreachable for me ;c
Thanks for mod! :)
Dino99
Hey~ o/


<Kantan>
  1. Fine~
<Futsuu>
  1. 00:52:003 (99) - k
  2. 01:49:550 (38) - k
<Muzukashii>
  1. 00:22:248 (36) - d fits the music
  2. 01:01:812 (220) - maybe remove this d? sounds nice~
  3. 01:49:550 (56) - Change to k?? follow the piano and maybe a bit difficult as a Hard Diff??
<Oni>
  1. 00:10:477 (11) - Replace it with a slider end at 00:11:458 -
  2. 00:22:248 (54) - d
  3. 00:22:575 (55) - delete this k sounds better for me~ I think here should be a short pause.
  4. 00:23:065 (57,58,59) - how about ddk?
  5. 00:58:106 (297) - k? and here 01:00:613 (315,316) - kk? the 1/3 would be dddk --> ddkk --> dkkk I think it sounds pretty good~ gradually get the tone higher~ :D
  6. 01:19:796 (400) - d
  7. 01:20:777 (403) - ^
  8. 01:21:104 (404) - Should be K??
  9. 01:47:589 (60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - kkkdddkddk to follow the piano~~
<Inner Oni>
  1. 00:12:112 - Add a slider end at 00:12:766 - ?
  2. 00:13:420 - ^
  3. 00:23:065 (76,77,78) - ddk
  4. 00:32:875 (79,80,81,82) - this 1/6 maybe kddk? sounds not bad~
  5. 01:33:692 (101,102,103,104,105) - add note to make it be ddkkkkd?
  6. 01:37:616 (132,133,134,135,136) - Remove these k?? make a "pause" before get into the crazy kiai time!~
That's all~ Nice song & map!

Hope it helpful

Good luck!! ^^
Topic Starter
tasuke912

12BARRY21 wrote:

MOD
Hey~ o/


<Kantan>
  1. Fine~
<Futsuu>
  1. 00:52:003 (99) - k
  2. 01:49:550 (38) - k nope
<Muzukashii>
  1. 00:22:248 (36) - d fits the music i think k follow hi-hat well, so no change.
  2. 01:01:812 (220) - maybe remove this d? sounds nice~ i keep it for better consistency.
  3. 01:49:550 (56) - Change to k?? follow the piano and maybe a bit difficult as a Hard Diff?? dddkkkd is better imo.
<Oni>
  1. 00:10:477 (11) - Replace it with a slider end at 00:11:458 - I think it's not needed.
  2. 00:22:248 (54) - d
  3. 00:22:575 (55) - delete this k sounds better for me~ I think here should be a short pause. keep to follow the hi-hat.
  4. 00:23:065 (57,58,59) - how about ddk? ^
  5. 00:58:106 (297) - k? and here 01:00:613 (315,316) - kk? the 1/3 would be dddk --> ddkk --> dkkk I think it sounds pretty good~ gradually get the tone higher~ :D hmm, it's nice idea. if other modder suggest same thing, i'll aplly it.
  6. 01:19:796 (400) - d
  7. 01:20:777 (403) - ^
  8. 01:21:104 (404) - Should be K?? nope, D fits well imo.
  9. 01:47:589 (60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - kkkdddkddk to follow the piano~~ already follow the piano.
<Inner Oni>
  1. 00:12:112 - Add a slider end at 00:12:766 - ? same as oni.
  2. 00:13:420 - ^
  3. 00:23:065 (76,77,78) - ddk
  4. 00:32:875 (79,80,81,82) - this 1/6 maybe kddk? sounds not bad~ kkkd is so fit imo.
  5. 01:33:692 (101,102,103,104,105) - add note to make it be ddkkkkd? it's so busy..
  6. 01:37:616 (132,133,134,135,136) - Remove these k?? make a "pause" before get into the crazy kiai time!~ these can stay for better connection with next 1/6 pattern.
That's all~ Nice song & map!

Hope it helpful

Good luck!! ^^
Thanks for mod! :)
Nofool
Hi'
pretty good overall, im a bit afraid about the spread on higher difficulties tho.

[Kantan]
- maybe del - 00:57:234 (24) - and - 00:59:850 (30) - ? kinda long for beginners.
- move - 01:03:774 (38) - to - 01:03:120 - as k ? reversed pattern + leave some space before the slider like at - 00:32:384 -.
- 01:10:640 (49) - sounds more like D.
- 01:20:123 (55) - maybe move to - 01:20:77 - ? notes in 4/1 then 2/1 then 1/1.
- 01:36:144 (71,72,73) - sounds more like kkD.
- remove - 01:43:011 (81) - and add finisher at - 01:43:992 (83) - ? sounds better.

[Futsuu]
- 00:42:684 (76) - at least remove this one ? clearly sounds like k k while ddd fits better before. i understand why you prefer to use kkk to fit the previous ddd but think about the incoming slider too é_è.
- remove - 00:48:079 (88,90) - ? they are not needed and to emphasize the piano melody.
- 00:52:330 - 00:54:945 - this part should be much more easier imo, doesn't support the huge ddddd etc, try this :

=> K K D kkd
- 01:08:024 - 01:10:640 - try k d k d kkd kkd K instead of d k d k d kkk d K ? to reverse the previous part.
- 01:19:469 (162) - refer to the muzu.
- 01:47:262 - 01:49:887 - mm too much notes here imo, maybe try this :

a bit more simple but fits more the song imo.

[Muzukashii]
you should ask some hight placed peoples about the use of 1/3 in some parts, all your 1/3 are justified but maybe too much for a muzu, example : - 01:42:357 - and - 01:48:896 - mostly. Make that kiai pretty hard.
- 00:24:700 (44) - remove ? not needed.
- 00:27:316 (55) -, - 00:29:932 (67) -, - 00:32:548 (78) - ^.
- remove - 00:42:684 (126,128) - ? emphasize piano and give more break.
- remove - 01:45:463 (34) - ? feels more the reversed style.

[Oni]
the difficulty jump from muzu to this diff is kinda big, my last map got disqualified for this reason so i tried to point the "too hard" things i found.
- 00:33:365 (120) - change to k + maybe remove - 00:33:774 (125) - ?
- 00:43:501 - 00:44:155 - kkddk k d instead of k dkddkkd, + also remove - 00:44:319 (202) - ? to make it easier, this pattern is kinda hard and the spread Muzu/Oni can be pointed for such patterns.
- 00:50:041 - i would suggest to use the same as - 00:44:809 - again.
- 01:04:101 - this pattern is kinda big again, i would suggest to remove some notes or find something a bit different.
- remove - 01:30:341 (451) - and - 01:30:668 (455) - ? ^.
- 01:47:589 - kinda long again x_x.

[Inner Oni]
- 00:45:245 - 00:45:572 - these breaks are not needed anymore, - 00:44:700 - 00:46:117 - here is the pattern is use in my own Inner for this map (yeah i mapped it too é_è) :

try something similar if you like it ?
- 00:46:281 - mm this is not 1/3 anymore here imo :c.
- 00:51:512 - ^.
mm i don't have much things to say x_x pretty cool to play even so i mapped it differently (the spread Oni/Inner is pretty huge too lol, i hope this is not a problem again).
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Good luck'
Topic Starter
tasuke912

Nofool wrote:

MOD
Hi'
pretty good overall, im a bit afraid about the spread on higher difficulties tho.

[Kantan]
- maybe del - 00:57:234 (24) - and - 00:59:850 (30) - ? kinda long for beginners. applied.
- move - 01:03:774 (38) - to - 01:03:120 - as k ? reversed pattern + leave some space before the slider like at - 00:32:384 -. umm, keeping now. i think kdk-dkd pattern is bit hard.
- 01:10:640 (49) - sounds more like D. K is better imo.
- 01:20:123 (55) - maybe move to - 01:20:77 - ? notes in 4/1 then 2/1 then 1/1.
- 01:36:144 (71,72,73) - sounds more like kkD. i wanted to put K on (73), so keeping now.
- remove - 01:43:011 (81) - and add finisher at - 01:43:992 (83) - ? sounds better. it finishers pattern is bit noisy for me. but i'll reconsider it.

[Futsuu]
- 00:42:684 (76) - at least remove this one ? clearly sounds like k k while ddd fits better before. i understand why you prefer to use kkk to fit the previous ddd but think about the incoming slider too é_è. fixed
- remove - 00:48:079 (88,90) - ? they are not needed and to emphasize the piano melody. I keep these to in order to avoid boredom.
- 00:52:330 - 00:54:945 - this part should be much more easier imo, doesn't support the huge ddddd etc, try this :

=> K K D kkd
- 01:08:024 - 01:10:640 - try k d k d kkd kkd K instead of d k d k d kkk d K ? to reverse the previous part.
- 01:19:469 (162) - refer to the muzu.
- 01:47:262 - 01:49:887 - mm too much notes here imo, maybe try this : Here is climax of song, so little hard pattern can stay.

a bit more simple but fits more the song imo.

[Muzukashii]
you should ask some hight placed peoples about the use of 1/3 in some parts, all your 1/3 are justified but maybe too much for a muzu, example : - 01:42:357 - and - 01:48:896 - mostly. Make that kiai pretty hard.
- 00:24:700 (44) - remove ? not needed.
- 00:27:316 (55) -, - 00:29:932 (67) -, - 00:32:548 (78) - ^.
- remove - 00:42:684 (126,128) - ? emphasize piano and give more break.
- remove - 01:45:463 (34) - ? feels more the reversed style.

[Oni]
the difficulty jump from muzu to this diff is kinda big, my last map got disqualified for this reason so i tried to point the "too hard" things i found.
- 00:33:365 (120) - change to k + maybe remove - 00:33:774 (125) - ?
- 00:43:501 - 00:44:155 - kkddk k d instead of k dkddkkd, + also remove - 00:44:319 (202) - ? to make it easier, this pattern is kinda hard and the spread Muzu/Oni can be pointed for such patterns.
- 00:50:041 - i would suggest to use the same as - 00:44:809 - again.
- 01:04:101 - this pattern is kinda big again, i would suggest to remove some notes or find something a bit different.
- remove - 01:30:341 (451) - and - 01:30:668 (455) - ? ^.
- 01:47:589 - kinda long again x_x.

[Inner Oni]
- 00:45:245 - 00:45:572 - these breaks are not needed anymore, - 00:44:700 - 00:46:117 - here is the pattern is use in my own Inner for this map (yeah i mapped it too é_è) :

try something similar if you like it ?
- 00:46:281 - mm this is not 1/3 anymore here imo :c.
- 00:51:512 - ^. changed
mm i don't have much things to say x_x pretty cool to play even so i mapped it differently (the spread Oni/Inner is pretty huge too lol, i hope this is not a problem again).
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Good luck'

Thanks for mod! so helpful :)
WIP
Charlotte
Deemo×1 + xi×1 + Cool song×1 = ×3 Good luck
wasonz
[Kantan]

seem fine

[Futsuu]

00:32:711 - move to 00:32:875 - make it simple and easy to catch the rhythm

00:52:657 - delete this one can make good emphasize 00:52:984 - , 00:52:330 -

I think this note can be catch better with 1/1 00:54:945 - so you need to delete 00:54:782 -

[Muzukashii]

fine

[Oni]

seriously ? 01:49:877 - this last part is easier more than Muzukashii ? swap note in Muzukashii to this difficulty
take a look

compare with


i think this part 01:48:569 - note might actually like this (color of the note is your choice)

[Inner Oni]

01:37:289 - can you follow the piano here ? leave if blank like this i think some player will feel awkward (include me)


01:48:569 - like how i said in Oni



01:50:695 - i think kkkdkkd looks weird ?
this can be more simple by using kkkkddd
or more excite by kkddkkd

good luck ;)
Topic Starter
tasuke912
Thanks for your mod! :)

sorry, i can't reply to all because i'm busy. but i read all and tried all.
JUDYDANNY
Hi, Here’s a Taiko Mod via M4M (before started TNA queue).
既にある程度整ってるので認識改変なmodばかりになるのは避けられない
どこかしらでしっくりくるものがあるとうれしいですT_T
あと2diffしかまだ見てないのでspreadの細部云々とかは全然確認してないので今回はその辺については特に書いてないです
[Timing]
  1. これまでに言ったNCのアレ一応timingだけ
    00:23:556 - , 01:39:414 -
[Futsuu]
  1. ベースがしっかり整ってる、よい

    :!: 01:33:529 - , 01:33:856 – , 01:36:144 – ,01:36:144 – add notes same as Kantan (or same as 01:43:992 (16,17,18) - ) lol
  2. 00:20:940 – 何度か試してみたけどspinnerの方がよろし? 盛り上がりに少し欠ける感じがした 、ぶっちゃけ1/2 dddのやりやすさもあるし次の提案点と一緒に両者を取るか取らないかにもなるかも
  3. 00:24:046 (4,5) - , 00:26:662 (12,13) - 配色のバランスもあると思うけど, 1/2のdddを入れてやりやすくさせる意図でいくならば ピアノ(というよりはクワイア?)が00:19:632 (16,17) - , 00:22:902 (1,2) –に対して低いので ddに変更してより安定化を図ってもいいと思います

  4. 00:32:711 –周辺 >> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3599299 ? , というのもこれまでの提案はここに収束する形です、00:32:384 – は非常にkで取ってほしいので, 00:31:894 (28,29) – をdにするくらいなら24秒のdkをddにした方がサウンズアップも素直に取れます。
    また1/2がないので音がとても足りない感じがしました
    気持ち休憩を作ること、変化をいれることの2点,また00:32:875 –でピアノの音はそもそもここでアクセントに近い形で鳴っているので1/2の2連はアリかな?

  5. 00:42:030 – このtripletが00:42:030 –のタイミングで加速度が増してる感じがして. どうにも曲調の流れを壊しているなと強く感じました。手前までの規則的なリズムの流れを汲んで消した方がいいと思います ピアノを強調するだけならドラムもゴリゴリマンですし素直に00:42:357 –へmoveの方がいいと思います

  6. 00:48:733 – remove? 00:44:482 –から00:49:714 –までを長―い目でみたらここで切った方がクールダウンが表現できてよりメリハリによいかと また00:49:060 (67,68) –のピアノ同音も強調されますが何度か使われた1/1の形でもあるので個人的にはいいと思います
  7. 00:54:782 – remove?and 00:54:945 –k? チョイ蛇足感,00:54:782 –の音の変化だけに焦点を当てるため

    :!: 01:04:101 - 短くした方がいいかも、終点01:04:755 - 。 結局プレイヤーに1/1こえる休みなしにエンドレスに叩かせることになってるので

  8. 01:49:550 – k? この密度量ならkにした方がバックのベースのピッチが落ちてないのでその音の部類に対してメリハリがつくと思います
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:42:030 -, 00:42:684 – remove?

  2. 00:47:425 - move to00:46:771 – して 00:47:752 (1,2,3) – dkd-k を 1/2 kkdへ?

  3. 00:52:166 – , (consisナントカ 00:46:935 - ) and 00:53:801 - remove?


    :?: 00:52:330 - , 00:52:984 - , 00:53:638 –finisherのバランスに関して他の難易度,おにさんふつうさんと話し合ってもう一度それぞれ見直してほしいです
    どう変えるかはおまかせですけど、現状の前2つだけは変に感じます
  4. 00:59:033 – remove ここの1小節だけ聞けばアクセントの音にとって蛇足感ぱないし1/4異色まじり後だし休みにしてもいいと思います
  5. 01:01:648 -^
  6. 01:03:283 - ^ リズムのバランス考慮で

    :idea: 01:42:902 (22,23) - move to 01:43:011 – ? 4分単符のみでおき直し? (01:43:174 – 置かないのは安定化+のちのfinisher孤立化)
    まず前提として1/3のdddkとかkkkdって1/4のd-ddk(not ddd-k)やk-kkdと同程度、若しくはそれに近いレベルでの難易度ですし、それを踏まえた上でその後の2/3リズムは難易度のキャパ超えてるような.

    :idea: 01:48:896 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57) – same as above 01:49:332 (55,56) – remove?
Sorry, I will come again.
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Topic Starter
tasuke912

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hi, Here’s a Taiko Mod via M4M (before started TNA queue).
既にある程度整ってるので認識改変なmodばかりになるのは避けられない
どこかしらでしっくりくるものがあるとうれしいですT_T
あと2diffしかまだ見てないのでspreadの細部云々とかは全然確認してないので今回はその辺については特に書いてないです
[Timing]
  1. これまでに言ったNCのアレ一応timingだけ 今回はtiming重視で見送ります
    00:23:556 - , 01:39:414 -
[Futsuu]
  1. ベースがしっかり整ってる、よい

    :!: 01:33:529 - , 01:33:856 – , 01:36:144 – ,01:36:144 – add notes same as Kantan (or same as 01:43:992 (16,17,18) - ) lol Kantan-Muzu間のspreadを考えるとbreakが妥当だと思います。DDやKK自体がそもそも難しい(のと足してしまうと大幅にSRが上がってweb iconの見栄えがよろしくない)というのもあったり。
  2. 00:20:940 – 何度か試してみたけどspinnerの方がよろし? 盛り上がりに少し欠ける感じがした 、ぶっちゃけ1/2 dddのやりやすさもあるし次の提案点と一緒に両者を取るか取らないかにもなるかも 確かに盛り上がりが欠け気味ですね;; ただspinnerにすると若干spreadがアンバランスになるような気がしたので、normal notesの1打目を大音符に変更して盛り上がりを補いました。
  3. 00:24:046 (4,5) - , 00:26:662 (12,13) - 配色のバランスもあると思うけど, 1/2のdddを入れてやりやすくさせる意図でいくならば ピアノ(というよりはクワイア?)が00:19:632 (16,17) - , 00:22:902 (1,2) –に対して低いので ddに変更してより安定化を図ってもいいと思います

  4. 00:32:711 –周辺 >> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3599299 ? , というのもこれまでの提案はここに収束する形です、00:32:384 – は非常にkで取ってほしいので, 00:31:894 (28,29) – をdにするくらいなら24秒のdkをddにした方がサウンズアップも素直に取れます。
    また1/2がないので音がとても足りない感じがしました
    気持ち休憩を作ること、変化をいれることの2点,また00:32:875 –でピアノの音はそもそもここでアクセントに近い形で鳴っているので1/2の2連はアリかな?
    確かに物足りなさあったのでこの部分は2小節前の配置とパターン化させて、2連に関しては3連で統一感アップを図りました。3/2の配色は単色だとFutsuuの中でも簡単すぎる印象を受けたのでこのままでいきます。
  5. 00:42:030 – このtripletが00:42:030 –のタイミングで加速度が増してる感じがして. どうにも曲調の流れを壊しているなと強く感じました。手前までの規則的なリズムの流れを汲んで消した方がいいと思います ピアノを強調するだけならドラムもゴリゴリマンですし素直に00:42:357 –へmoveの方がいいと思います 確かにそうですね。後者を使わせていただきました。
  6. 00:48:733 – remove? 00:44:482 –から00:49:714 –までを長―い目でみたらここで切った方がクールダウンが表現できてよりメリハリによいかと また00:49:060 (67,68) –のピアノ同音も強調されますが何度か使われた1/1の形でもあるので個人的にはいいと思います 個人的に単体のkkdからのkkdは避けたい、とういのとキックのフォロー、前後の1/1パターンとの難易度差が開き過ぎないように、ということでここはno changeで行きます。
  7. 00:54:782 – remove?and 00:54:945 –k? チョイ蛇足感,00:54:782 –の音の変化だけに焦点を当てるため removed. kに関しては小節線上はdを置きたい(01:00:177 (102,103) -をより強調するため)のでdのままにします。

    :!: 01:04:101 - 短くした方がいいかも、終点01:04:755 - 。 結局プレイヤーに1/1こえる休みなしにエンドレスに叩かせることになってるので 長さは短くするとキックの拾い方が不完全で違和感を感じたのでこのままで。ぶっちゃけ疲れてるプレイヤーは連打をスルーすると思うので休憩に関しては大丈夫ではないかなと。あとは後ろの小節は4分音符のみなので復帰に必要な時間も確保されてるはず
  8. 01:49:550 – k? この密度量ならkにした方がバックのベースのピッチが落ちてないのでその音の部類に対してメリハリがつくと思います no changeで;;
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:42:030 -, 00:42:684 – remove? sure
  2. 00:47:425 - move to00:46:771 – して 00:47:752 (1,2,3) – dkd-k を 1/2 kkdへ? そこのピアノの場所確かに置きたいですけど自分の実力不足でそこに置いた場合の自然なパターン形成が出来なかったので置かないパターンのままにします。若干break,統一感を改善。
  3. 00:52:166 – , (consisナントカ 00:46:935 - ) and 00:53:801 - remove? ちょうど上の提案で見直してるときに削除してました。的を射すぎてて怖E

    :?: 00:52:330 - , 00:52:984 - , 00:53:638 –finisherのバランスに関して他の難易度,おにさんふつうさんと話し合ってもう一度それぞれ見直してほしいです
    どう変えるかはおまかせですけど、現状の前2つだけは変に感じます 3つ目のタイムスタンプのところにadded
  4. 00:59:033 – remove ここの1小節だけ聞けばアクセントの音にとって蛇足感ぱないし1/4異色まじり後だし休みにしてもいいと思います
  5. 01:01:648 -^
  6. 01:03:283 - ^ リズムのバランス考慮で 前の2か所は削除、3か所目は見送りで。

    :idea: 01:42:902 (22,23) - move to 01:43:011 – ? 4分単符のみでおき直し? (01:43:174 – 置かないのは安定化+のちのfinisher孤立化)
    まず前提として1/3のdddkとかkkkdって1/4のd-ddk(not ddd-k)やk-kkdと同程度、若しくはそれに近いレベルでの難易度ですし、それを踏まえた上でその後の2/3リズムは難易度のキャパ超えてるような. 確かにかなり厳しいところありますね。。1/3をピアノを拾ってるのでどうしても2/3も同じように拾いたいと感じて手を動かをうと思ってもなかなか動いてくれないです。とりあえずギリギリまで粘ります、もしダメそうだったら1/3の方を削除する予定で。

    :idea: 01:48:896 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57) – same as above 01:49:332 (55,56) – remove? ^ ギリギリまで粘ります
Sorry, I will come again.
TNAのキューに加えて連勤が土曜から始まるんでのこりと続きはたぶん来週火曜以降になります;;
Rankedにぜひ欲しい曲なので頑張ってください><
とても参考になりました。的確な指摘ばかりでまさに神moddaa。
kds5個もありがとうございます!
DakeDekaane
Hi tasuke!

[ Kantan]
  1. SV 1.4?
  2. 01:03:774 (36) - You probably should remove this to be consistent with the previous patterns and also the empty beat in 01:03:120 - .
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:24:864 (6) - I'm not the one who complains about long patterns without breaks, but this one seems to be a bit heavy. Probably remove this to make this part a bit less dense? 00:27:480 (14) - 00:30:095 (22) - and 00:32:711 (30) -
  2. 00:44:482 (57) - No big note?
  3. 00:49:387 (70) - Removing this note would help to make the big note feel stronger, which would be a nice touch.
  4. 00:52:657 (79) - Remove? It would help to have consistency with 00:44:809 - .
  5. 01:05:736 (116,118,126,128) - Something similar as in the first suggestion.
  6. 01:39:414 - I'm a bit worried the end is a closer to Muzukashii. I'd suggest to remove 01:41:703 (9,10) - 01:47:589 (29) - and 01:49:060 (36) - to make this a bit easier.
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:43:011 (120) - Probably remove this, so you begin the long pattern when the bassy sound becomes crazy.
[ Oni]
  1. 01:43:665 (23,24) - Inversing this notes would fit the piano better, imo.
[ Inner Oni]
  • =w=b
Good luck!
Topic Starter
tasuke912

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi tasuke! Hi, Dake. :)
[ Kantan]
  1. SV 1.4? i think BPM184 is bit fast for beginner players, but i'll reconsider it.
  2. 01:03:774 (36) - You probably should remove this to be consistent with the previous patterns and also the empty beat in 01:03:120 - . Removed.
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:24:864 (6) - I'm not the one who complains about long patterns without breaks, but this one seems to be a bit heavy. Probably remove this to make this part a bit less dense? 00:27:480 (14) - 00:30:095 (22) - and 00:32:711 (30) - that's Great idea... applied.
  2. 00:44:482 (57) - No big note? not finish here in all diffs.
  3. 00:49:387 (70) - Removing this note would help to make the big note feel stronger, which would be a nice touch. umm, i want to follow the piano here bcz (66) is as big sound as (65).
  4. 00:52:657 (79) - Remove? It would help to have consistency with 00:44:809 - . i'd like to keep K-d-K pattern here to emphasis.
  5. 01:05:736 (116,118,126,128) - Something similar as in the first suggestion. removed slider for making 2/1 break.
  6. 01:39:414 - I'm a bit worried the end is a closer to Muzukashii. I'd suggest to remove 01:41:703 (9,10) - 01:47:589 (29) - and 01:49:060 (36) - to make this a bit easier. i don't think closer to Muzu. ;w;
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:43:011 (120) - Probably remove this, so you begin the long pattern when the bassy sound becomes crazy. removed.
[ Oni]
  1. 01:43:665 (23,24) - Inversing this notes would fit the piano better, imo. wrong timestamp? lol
[ Inner Oni]
  • =w=b - >w<
Good luck!
Big thanks! really useful mod. (´ω`*)
DakeDekaane
Oops, in Oni, I meant these notes: 01:49:114 (69,70) -
I'm baka ;A;
Renka
こんにちは、PMから!明日から投稿可能ということなので、遅れてごめんなさい!
あまりいいことは言えないと思う・・

[Kantan]

good

[Futsuu]

00:21:757 - delete? -
00:54:619 - k? - kkd k ddkとしてみては?提案です
01:41:866 move to 01:42:193? - こちらの方が強く音がなっているので
01:49:877 - k? - Muzukashiiではkを置いていたので、こちらも変えてみてはどうでしょう。配置が同じになってしまいますが・・・

[Muzukashii]

01:30:749 - delete? - 少し長いかなと思ったので、ここで区切ってもいいかと思います

[Oni]

01:28:624(414,415,416,417) - Ctrl+G? - 前との反転で置いてみてはどうでしょう
01:46:526 move to 01:46:853? - こちらの方が自分はいいかな?と思ったので、提案させていただきます

全体的にピアノの音が良く取られていてあまり言うことはなかったです!次は受かりましょ!good luck!  星よー
Topic Starter
tasuke912

chaica wrote:

SPOILER
こんにちは、PMから!明日から投稿可能ということなので、遅れてごめんなさい!
あまりいいことは言えないと思う・・

[Kantan]

good

[Futsuu]

00:21:757 - delete? -
00:54:619 - k? - kkd k ddkとしてみては?提案です (81)と(83)は同じ音階なので同じ色でそろえたいです
01:41:866 move to 01:42:193? - こちらの方が強く音がなっているので Futsuuでは若干難しめの部類に入る配置なので1小節前と同じリズムにしてなるべく初心者でもプレイをしやすいようにしたいです
01:49:877 - k? - Muzukashiiではkを置いていたので、こちらも変えてみてはどうでしょう。配置が同じになってしまいますが・・・逆にMuzuをDに変えました

[Muzukashii]

01:30:749 - delete? - 少し長いかなと思ったので、ここで区切ってもいいかと思いますこの辺りは1/4が一切無いのでセーフ(?)だと信じてとりあえずキープします

[Oni]

01:28:624(414,415,416,417) - Ctrl+G? - 前との反転で置いてみてはどうでしょう ちょっと弄ってみました
01:46:526 move to 01:46:853? - こちらの方が自分はいいかな?と思ったので、提案させていただきます とりあえずキープ、後でひっそりと変えるかもしれないです
全体的にピアノの音が良く取られていてあまり言うことはなかったです!次は受かりましょ!good luck!  星よー
Thanks for mod and Hoshi. :D
お互い頑張りましょう
qoot8123
hi o/
from TNA queue


[ Futsuu]
  1. Spread
    1. 01:05:409 - ~ 01:10:640 - just a suggestion, but you can refer the change of density on inner oni and kantan, the note's density is increased gradually
  2. Hitsounds
    1. consider this part is much denser on muzu, add notes on 00:18:978 - and 00:19:305 - would be better
    2. 00:38:270 (39) - how about move this note to 00:37:616 - and add k on 00:38:924 - ? It would be more smooth to play.
[ Muzukashii]
  1. Spread
    1. 01:05:409 - ~ 01:10:640 - same as futsuu you can refer the change of density on inner oni and kantan, the note's density is increased gradually
  2. Hitsounds
    1. 00:54:782 (170) - I feel this note is not really necessary ,could be removed.
[ Oni]
  1. Spread
    1. 01:05:409 - ~ 01:10:640 - same as futsuu you can refer the change of density on inner oni and kantan, the note's density is increased gradually
[ Inner Oni]

  1. Hitsounds
    1. 00:21:594 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - this pattern's flow is not as smooth as you mapped before, try to start the stream on 00:21:594 - instead of 00:21:757 -
    2. 01:32:548 (90) - how about use k ? i feel it is a bit different with 01:31:240 (79) -
    3. 01:37:125 (131,132,133,134,135,136,137) - you can follow the piano like this
    4. 01:39:251 - add a k here? piano sound still exist here.
    5. 01:43:229 (36) - remove this and add finish on 01:43:338 (37) - ? there is no significant sound here.
that's all from me.
good luck! :D
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