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Nightwish - Elan

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EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
EncoreW
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2015年8月31日 at 21:47:23

Artist: Nightwish
Title: Elan
Tags: Floor Jansen NW metal liangv587 Kagamine Ren Karen tm1209
BPM: 128.01
Filesize: 10119kb
Play Time: 04:13
Difficulties Available:
  1. Come (3.96 stars, 682 notes)
  2. Hard (3.31 stars, 612 notes)
  3. Karen's Normal (1.63 stars, 282 notes)
  4. liangv587's Hard (2.88 stars, 521 notes)
Download: Nightwish - Elan
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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信仰之跃
Karen's Normal-----Karen
liangv587's Hard-----liangv587
Hard-----Me
Come-----Me

osu! needs more Nightwish

Now I can die in peace.


2015-06-03 开坑
2015-06-09 找好音效 中车爆炸
2015-07-08 做完最高难度 这段时间5178→3467
2015-07-14 下完音效 国家队进场回到4000
2015-07-18 下完全难度音效 当天周末没开盘
2015-07-19 补难度 仍然是周末
2015-07-25 第一个泡 随后一天跌了八个半点
2015-07-26 找了巴西小哥 然后慢慢等qua
2015-08-10 巴西小哥美丽 当天涨了五个点
2015-08-21 找到了Sieg 又是一波爆炸
2015-08-24 第二个泡 这时候3000点都难了
2015-08-29 被戳泡 刚刚赚了两个涨停
2015-08-31 第三个泡
2015-09-02 起飞 上证低开140点午盘翻红
所以这是不是很神奇


Last edited by EncoreW , edited 42 times in total.
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
From request
[General]
  1. Insane的SampleSet改成Soft，在.osu裡面第八行

[Karen's Normal]
  1. 00:18:062 (5,1) - 注意DS，這裡變成0.86x了

    00:30:483 - 這裡拉個轉盤到00:35:873 - 不錯

    03:28:356 (1,2) - 這裡DS變成0.95x了

    03:29:763 (2) - 改成1/2滑條也不錯

    03:43:355 (1,2) - 這兩個應該節奏互換，先滑條再圓圈，因為03:43:355 - 到03:43:824 - 是vocal的延音，而03:44:293 - 是另一句vocal的開始

[liangv587's Hard]
  1. 奇葩的CS4.3

  2. 我建議1個大白線1NC，不然有些combo去到10多個好像不太好

  3. 00:30:483 - 這裡拉個轉盤到00:35:873 - 或者00:37:279 - 也不錯

    00:47:122 (3) - 換成1/2折返？因為有vocal

    01:27:782 - 這個位置其實有個vocal，不過不太明顯，可以加個note不過不加也行

    01:57:897 (6) - 滑條SV加長點？用作突顯音樂

    03:31:052 - 這裡也是有vocal，不過加圓圈太坑了

    03:42:652 - 看起來是故意的，但真的不加物件？

[Insane]
  1. 01:43:718 (6) - 這個應該從01:43:601 - 開始

    01:27:782 - 和hard難度說的一樣，這個位置其實有個vocal，不過不太明顯，建議加個note

    03:56:479 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 這玩意略坑爹。

    04:06:088 (2,6) - 沒疊好
美麗，祝順利起飛
TtmnZk
Elite Mapper
597 posts
Joined March 2013
TtmnZk
yo!

[Karen's Normal]
00:18:062 (5,1) - ds

应该没啥了

[liangv587's Hard]
00:47:122 (3) - 中间有人声而且还挺清晰的，要不00:47:122 (3,4) -改成2个1/2滑条怎样
01:22:743 (3,5) - 没包好
01:47:351 (6,7,8) - 这ds，hard还是弄一样吧

厚

[Insane]
最高难度不起个帅气一点的名字吗

01:43:366 (5,4) - 这里不叠了吗。
02:10:318 (6,1) - 感觉这地方可以下三连，02:10:318 (6) - 这个6跟其他note在你这图里居然配不成几何梗，我表示很难受
02:18:051 (1) - 这地方跳不错，感觉可以抄一波图
02:33:752 (4,5) - 这地方玩的时候有点小卡手，不用改
02:35:627 (3,1,2) - 这里ds感觉，你看3和1是1/2单点。1和2是1/1单点，所以估计即使有nc也初见容易坑，不过你这也不好改，就当吐槽好了
02:41:719 (2,3) - 建议2和3 ctrl+g，因为02:41:251 (2,1,2) - 这里钝角不等距跳不是很舒服，
03:06:093 (2,3,4) - 为啥不来个正三角啊
03:50:855 (1) - ctrl+g，要不距离不够吗，感觉不爽

关于音效，soft-finish那个文件的音量太小了，加大一点要不没啥效果

还有，真tm整齐。
以上
Krfawy
1,374 posts
Joined March 2012
Krfawy
Hello, so T-Mac asked me if I could test the Insane diff and the only thing I can suggest on his diffs is to make another difficulty between Hard and Insane because of quite large jumps on Insane and no real jumps on Hard diff. While there's nothing I noticed so far on his diffs, I have some suggestions to you Karen to make the mapset more polished and balanced. ;3

Karen's Normal
  1. Since it's the easiest difficulty I would recommend to use a bit less dense rhythms in some moments to provide a better playground for the destined difficulty. There are some of them I'd like to see reduced, that would be really appreciated.
  2. 00:19:702 (2) - I see you're following the beat but it's very dense now. I advise to delete the note because of a really complicated rhythm now.
  3. 00:26:264 (6,2) - Deleting one of those notes would be appreciated as well since it's really too hardcore to click it as it is now. :<
  4. 01:52:506 (2,4) - Sadly, as above.
  5. 02:00:006 (2,4) - As above.
  6. 04:13:353 (1) - Personally I think that would be easier to click this note as a single circle since the sliderend doesn't give that obvious feedback. Clicking just a circle would be more clear in terms of clicking.
That's a very solid mapset if you ask me. It is a really promising mapset so I'm starring it now.
jogfi2002
189 posts
Joined July 2009
jogfi2002
[General]
完成度很高，在下水平有限，没看出多少地方能改……
所以你可以不MOD我的图，或者只MOD一个难度就行（最好是HARD）


[Hard]
Nice! 耐玩度我觉得比Insane更高。

[Insane]

这个难度几乎挑不出毛病，除了节奏模式太单一这点之外。当然，歌曲本身的节奏就很简明

，这可能是原因。
04:09:369 (7,1) - 改成2NOTE+1SLIDER，前面好像有好几处这样的，可以考虑都换了。


非常不错的图，Star！
z1085684963
327 posts
Joined August 2012
z1085684963
水水水水水
[Insane]
01:17:118 (1) - 改3/4爽
01:23:680 (1) - 01:24:384 (3) - finish，后面也是
01:43:366 (5,6) - 1/3爽，后面也是
02:03:052 (1,2,3,4,5) - 我觉得要么在第二段多用用这个梗，要么不要下这个梗
03:13:358这边开始note都放到滑条下面比较好看
Last edited by z1085684963 , edited 1 time in total.
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
EncoreW

Kencho wrote:

From request
[General]
  1. Insane的SampleSet改成Soft，在.osu裡面第八行√

[Insane]
  1. 01:43:718 (6) - 這個應該從01:43:601 - 開始 这里没问题的，跟我要眼泪回来那两个2连一样的道理

    01:27:782 - 和hard難度說的一樣，這個位置其實有個vocal，不過不太明顯，建議加個note 个人认为01:27:899 (2) - 这里的clap以及vocal已经足够明显，如果在你说的这个地方加个note相当于一个三连，这样就没办法更好的突出01:27:899 (2) - 这个地方的强度了，所以我还是觉得单点更加适合这个地方

    03:56:479 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 這玩意略坑爹。这个啊，我是故意这么放的，而且这么放似乎也没什么不好的地方

    04:06:088 (2,6) - 沒疊好√
美麗，祝順利起飛
thx a lot!!
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
EncoreW

TT Mouse wrote:

yo!

[quote

[Insane]
最高难度不起个帅气一点的名字吗 懒得取了，而且我真不知道歌词里有什么单词能哪来当难度名的

01:43:366 (5,4) - 这里不叠了吗。 01:42:429 (1,5) - 这两个是叠了，但是01:42:663 (2,6) - 后面这个真的没办法因为地方实在太小了，就这样把，这个这不能怪我，摆着摆着到这个地方去来了我实在没办法
02:10:318 (6,1) - 感觉这地方可以下三连，02:10:318 (6) - 这个6跟其他note在你这图里居然配不成几何梗，我表示很难受 也没必要什么敌方都是几何梗把
02:18:051 (1) - 这地方跳不错，感觉可以抄一波图复制，放大一点，转30度就是了
02:33:752 (4,5) - 这地方玩的时候有点小卡手，不用改 厚
02:35:627 (3,1,2) - 这里ds感觉，你看3和1是1/2单点。1和2是1/1单点，所以估计即使有nc也初见容易坑，不过你这也不好改，就当吐槽好了 原来的计划是02:35:158 (1,1) - 这两个叠一起，但是我发现vocal结束了，于是就把他放到右半区了，最重要的是根本不吭
02:41:719 (2,3) - 建议2和3 ctrl+g，因为02:41:251 (2,1,2) - 这里钝角不等距跳不是很舒服 √
03:06:093 (2,3,4) - 为啥不来个正三角啊 03:05:389 (5,3) - 这两个是blanket，这三个叠在一起，2.5的DS一次来三个可能是有点太大了，而且等边三角形也不是那种特别容易接上不会掉的梗
03:50:855 (1) - ctrl+g，要不距离不够吗，感觉不爽 √

关于音效，soft-finish那个文件的音量太小了，加大一点要不没啥效果 √

还有，真tm整齐。
以上[/quote]
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
EncoreW

jogfi2002 wrote:

[General]
完成度很高，在下水平有限，没看出多少地方能改……
所以你可以不MOD我的图，或者只MOD一个难度就行（最好是HARD）


[Hard]
Nice! 耐玩度我觉得比Insane更高。

[Insane]

这个难度几乎挑不出毛病，除了节奏模式太单一这点之外。当然，歌曲本身的节奏就很简明

，这可能是原因。
04:09:369 (7,1) - 改成2NOTE+1SLIDER，前面好像有好几处这样的，可以考虑都换了。 我早就试过这样的组合但是效果似乎并不是那么理想


非常不错的图，Star！
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
EncoreW

z1085684963 wrote:

水水水水水
[Insane]
01:17:118 (1) - 改3/4爽 3/4感觉根本不符合这里的节奏
01:24:266 - 01:24:384 finish，后面也是 没看懂。。俄日全额第一个时间点也是错的因为根本没有note
01:43:366 (5,6) - 1/3爽，后面也是 整首歌都没1/3啊
02:03:052 (1,2,3,4,5) - 我觉得要么在第二段多用用这个梗，要么不要下这个梗 和IRC里面讲的一样，而且我听了一下觉得整首歌只有这么一个地方比较适合用这个的
03:13:358这边开始note都放到滑条下面比较好看 我倒是觉得开火车一样的更好看也
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
Kencho
00:30:483 - 這裡拉個轉盤到00:35:873 - 不錯 不了，跟hard保持一下一致
03:29:763 (2) - 改成1/2滑條也不錯 虽然有点道理但是还是不太想改，不喜欢这种1/2

TT Mouse
改了

Krfawy
Fixed all and reduced some 1/2 rhythm.

update
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 77588
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:elan
TitleUnicode:élan
Artist:Nightwish
ArtistUnicode:Nightwish
Creator:T-Mac
Version:Karen's Normal
Source:
Tags:Floor Jansen NW metal liangv587  Kagamine Ren Karen tm1209
BeatmapID:725447
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EncoreW
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EncoreW
updated
Sieg
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Sieg
hello m8, upscale "E" and "É" in title please

call me to mod when it's time
Krfawy
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Krfawy
#BUBBLED
Karen
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Karen
feel free to fix anything in my diff
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Kuron-kun
Kuron-kun
Alright then, IRC Modded!

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09:29 Kuron-kun: alright :D
09:30 Kuron-kun: btw on karen's Normal 00:18:062 (5) -
09:30 Kuron-kun: this blanket is really annoying me asdlajsflkja
09:30 Kuron-kun: can you please fix it?
09:30 T-Mac: ok
09:32 T-Mac: fixed~
09:33 Kuron-kun: :3
09:33 Kuron-kun: let me search for more
09:40 Kuron-kun: oh btw
09:40 Kuron-kun: the last timing point
09:41 Kuron-kun: it's unnecessary
09:41 T-Mac: ah
09:41 T-Mac: delete that now
09:42 Kuron-kun: delete on all the diffs, don't forget
09:42 T-Mac: yes i will
09:43 T-Mac: ok i finished
09:43 Kuron-kun: on your Hard:
09:44 T-Mac: to be honest i don't know why this red line appear in this place
09:44 T-Mac: what about my Hard ?
09:44 Kuron-kun: 01:02:941 (4) - I've seen the QAT disqualifying maps due to overmaped triplets on Hards, you better delete it
09:44 T-Mac: ok
09:45 Kuron-kun: 01:17:118 (1,2) - not sure if this speed is good since the previous jumps were not that high
09:45 Kuron-kun: why don't you try something like 1,40x
09:46 Kuron-kun: 02:57:421 (1,2) - same applies here
09:47 Kuron-kun: 03:03:866 (8) - again an overmapped triplet
09:47 T-Mac: you mean these two are too fast ?
09:47 Kuron-kun: yeah
09:47 Kuron-kun: the previous sliders were really soft and slow then you suddenly increase the speed
09:47 Kuron-kun: that's not good for a hard
09:49 T-Mac: i see
09:49 T-Mac: i'm fixing that
09:49 Kuron-kun: alright :3
09:52 T-Mac: 01:32:117 (1,2) - and these two also 1.40x ?
09:52 Kuron-kun: yeah
09:52 Kuron-kun: oh, another overmapped triplet 01:38:562 (8) -
09:53 T-Mac: 04:03:861 (8) - and this ?
09:53 Kuron-kun: yes
09:54 T-Mac: but i think it's available in Insane diff
09:54 T-Mac: ok fixed all
09:54 Kuron-kun: yeah, you can keep them on insane
09:54 Kuron-kun: everything seems fine now
09:54 T-Mac: ;3
09:55 T-Mac: should i update it again?
09:55 Kuron-kun: wait for insane
10:00 Kuron-kun: okay, nothing to change on Insane
10:00 Kuron-kun: you can update now
10:01 T-Mac: ;3
10:03 T-Mac: hmm..do you have any suggestions for the hitsounds?
10:03 Kuron-kun: no, no
10:03 Kuron-kun: they're pretty good
10:03 T-Mac: xD thx a lot
10:04 T-Mac: i still think i'm a noob in hirsounds
10:04 Kuron-kun: no you aren't
10:04 Kuron-kun: they're really good
10:04 T-Mac: XDDD
10:05 Kuron-kun: oh, there are still some overmaped triplets on hard
10:05 Kuron-kun: 02:10:435 (5) -
10:05 Kuron-kun: 02:12:309 (6) -
10:05 T-Mac: where?
10:05 Kuron-kun: and these two 02:21:683 (2,5) -
10:06 T-Mac: no triplets now in Hard xDDD
10:06 Kuron-kun: :3
10:06 Kuron-kun: update now
10:07 T-Mac: i'm fix that
10:07 T-Mac: i must consider about 02:10:083 (4,1,2,3) - these
10:08 Kuron-kun: okay, you may keep those if you want
10:08 Kuron-kun: but you should delete 02:21:683 (2,5) -
10:08 Kuron-kun: there's really no sound there
10:08 Kuron-kun: even with triplets :c
10:08 T-Mac: yes i delete all triplets
10:09 T-Mac: so i must change something in 02:10:552 (1,2,3) - these
10:10 Kuron-kun: you can keep these, so the spread wouldn't be so bad
10:10 Kuron-kun: without any triplets on hard and with a lot of triplets on insane
10:10 T-Mac: xDDD

What we fixed:

  1. A Blanket on Karen's Normal
  2. Unnecessary Timing Point at the end
  3. Deleted some overmapped triplets on Hard
  4. Changed SV on hard before kiai; 1,50x > 1,40x
[GB]Rush_FTK
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EncoreW
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EncoreW
Kuron-kun banned omfg
Sieg
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Sieg

T-Mac wrote:

Kuron-kun banned omfg
Sieg
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Sieg
hello there, rapid mod

general:
• Unused hitsounds:
soft-hitclap.wav

Karen's Normal:
• Usless green line(s) over red (no SV changes):
{139457} ms
{155861} ms

00:18:999 (1) - add finish or whistle to head to stress strong beat
00:25:561 (5) - make repeat from this one to stress 00:25:796 () - beat
00:28:373 (4,6) - don't use such kind of overlaps for normal http://puu.sh/jJhvq/8f7b3c75b1.jpg
00:30:248 (1) - raise volume to 60-80% for this, because of emphasized finish
01:10:557 (1) - ^ 02:35:861 (1) -
01:24:618 (5) - split this into slider + circle to allow player "play" strong 01:25:555 (5) - add finish there also
01:39:617 (5) - ^
03:41:012 (3) - clap on head
02:18:051 (1) - finish on head
03:43:824 (2) - raise volume on head a bit
03:57:417 (6) - finish on tail instead is whistle, sounds nice imo
04:08:666 (5) - repeat sounds empty
04:13:353 (1) - 20% whistle here

soft-hitclap2.wav is way too loud, you should reduce volume of sample a bit
also, consider to use this as softhitfinish2 http://puu.sh/jJi6n/db2d00262e.wav

liangv587's Hard:
01:17:118 (5,6) - increase DS here to stress strong beat
read hs suggestions from Karen's Normal

Hard:
drum-hitnormal.wav is awful, don't use it
also if you decided to use "hard" hitsound as hitnormal make sure to switch it to "soft" on non-drum beats in non-intense parts
examples: 00:38:451 (2) - 00:39:388 (4) - 00:38:685 (3) - (repeat) 00:40:326 (2) - //usually red one ticks
I can suggest you to use http://puu.sh/jJj1T/8d8cbeb808.wav as drumhitnormal
and switch all "soft" beats to soft set http://puu.sh/jJj4W/f2e679a831.jpg <- this will improve your hitsounding a LOT
also give a try to finish hs that I've suggested for normal

• Usless green line(s) over red (no SV changes):
{54153} ms
{70557} ms
{139457} ms
{155861} ms

01:00:246 (2,3,4) - unnatural placement\movement
01:29:305 (1) - finish
02:19:458 (1) - why you switched hs set here, should be same as for 02:03:052 (1) - part
03:28:356 (1) - 1.0 DS is way too low to this part, transition should be more like in 01:18:525 (2) - part

Come:
same for hitsounding as for hard

• Usless green line(s) over red (no SV changes):
{54153} ms
{70557} ms
{139457} ms
{155861} ms

sweet mapset
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