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TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'park - LANA - Kiroku no Kakera -

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Lach
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Lach
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:52:00 PM

Artist: TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'park
Title: LANA - Kiroku no Kakera -
Source: jubeat saucer
Tags: 村上来渚 Murakami Rana Macuilxochitl fanzhen0019
BPM: 84
Filesize: 15107kb
Play Time: 01:10
Difficulties Available:
  1. fanzhen's Hard (2.62 stars, 168 notes)
  2. fanzhen's Never Ending Story (3.92 stars, 243 notes)
  3. Insane (3.69 stars, 195 notes)
  4. Normal (1.88 stars, 108 notes)
Download: TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'park - LANA - Kiroku no Kakera -
Download: TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'park - LANA - Kiroku no Kakera - (no video)
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Last edited by Lach , edited 37 times in total.
Lust
osu! Alumni
2,667 posts
Joined January 2013
Lust
some IRC modding on the insane

log
18:06 Lach: won play an mape
18:06 Lust: tablet is in another room, so only taiko pls
18:06 Lach: it's ez
18:06 Lach: you can use mouse
18:06 Lust: i suck with mouse like u dont understand
18:07 Lach: :(
18:07 Lach: maybe you could give me some big real tips or something
18:07 *Lach is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/696785 TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'Park - LANA - Kiroku no Kakera - [Insane]]
18:07 Lust: tomorrow when i plug in my tablet for once x)
18:08 Lach: i meant with the map
18:08 Lach: not with playing
18:09 Lust: 00:35:758 (6,7,1) - i see u
18:10 Lach: is only 84 bpms
18:11 Lust: 00:49:960 (2,3) - ctrl+g these two
18:11 Lust: and then ctrl + g 00:49:960 (2) -  and then ctrl + g 00:50:317 (3) - 
18:11 Lust: circular flow creates better momentum into the following patterns
18:12 Lust: 01:00:495 (6) - to 171:360 for better flow and a cleaner looking pattern
18:13 Lust: 00:59:424 (1) - comes up and down and around into 00:59:960 (2,3,4,5) - so there is a more natural movement to be had if you moved 01:00:495 (6) - 
18:13 Lach: i'm dubious of the angle of 1 to 2 now
18:13 Lach: http://puu.sh/hMhdY/41fef2b484.jpg
18:14 Lust: is fine, the short distance between the two allows for some wiggle room especially coming off of the momentum from the jump from 00:49:067 (4) - here to 00:49:424 (1) - 
18:15 Lach: are you sure that's the right coord for 01:00:495 (6) -
18:15 Lach: because that puts it right next to 7
18:15 Lust: http://puu.sh/hMhn7/fea453cd30.jpg
18:15 Lust: should look like this
18:17 Lust: 00:53:353 (9,1,2,3,4) - this was really nice, i like dis
18:17 Lach: i suppose that works
18:17 Lust: 00:58:353 (2,3,4,5,1) - and dis
18:17 Lust: nice movements and flow here in accordance with the music
18:18 Lust: other than that, thats all i have to say

good luck fam
fanzhen0019
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,723 posts
Joined July 2010
fanzhen0019
yes and go ahead

i'd appreciate it if i can make the rest songs (PV length and I have those videos too) of LANA series for you, if needed
Lach
1,118 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Lach
Probably just doing this one for now, although the other songs are good. Maybe at some point. Thanks.
Kaguya Hourain
514 posts
Joined October 2012
Kaguya Hourain
Ηι
15:59 Kaguya Hourain: blblblblblbl Normal doesn't need testplay do I'm going with it right away
16:00 Kaguya Hourain: 00:30:409 (1) - Would rotate this a bit clockwise
16:01 Kaguya Hourain: 00:36:480 (1) - I don't get what this is tbh
16:01 Lach: not snapped correctly
16:01 Lach: that's what that is
16:01 Lach: lmao
16:02 Kaguya Hourain: Hahaha
16:02 Kaguya Hourain: Okay
16:02 Lach: move it onto the timing section
16:02 Lach: i knew there would be at least one
16:03 Kaguya Hourain: Hmm I'd make kiai SV 0,50 cuz you know unadvisable in Normal to change SV and stuff
16:03 Kaguya Hourain: Up to you idc
16:04 Lach: i'll probably keep it as it since the bpm doubles there and it would have to be likes
16:04 Lach: spaced really far to not have things overlap
16:04 Lach: too mucyhh*
16:04 Lach: fugc
16:04 Kaguya Hourain: 00:51:571 - Beat would be nice here
16:04 Kaguya Hourain: 00:57:285 - Same
16:05 Kaguya Hourain: All other after that
16:05 Kaguya Hourain: Personal preference just sayin
16:05 Kaguya Hourain: Rhythm is interesting as you made it
16:05 Lach: it goes over 2.0 star rating with circles there LOL
16:05 Kaguya Hourain: LOL FOR REAL?
16:05 Lach: yeah
16:05 Lach: 2.04
16:06 Kaguya Hourain: Wow
16:06 Lach: .02*
16:06 Kaguya Hourain: Fuck you star rating go fix yourself
16:06 Lach: i might be able to use sliders or something
16:06 Kaguya Hourain: 00:03:802 (3,4) - How about using reverse for these two?
16:07 Kaguya Hourain: Since it kinda feels like 1/3 in the music
16:07 Kaguya Hourain: 00:09:516 (3,4) - Same here
16:07 Kaguya Hourain: The latter being stronger
16:07 Lach: do you mean like
16:07 Lach: for the first one
16:07 Lach: ctrl+g it and repeats to both?
16:08 Kaguya Hourain: Ye
16:08 Kaguya Hourain: http://puu.sh/hVffr.jpg
16:08 Kaguya Hourain: 00:09:516 (3,4) - Also I feel those should be higher on the grid since the pitch is really high
16:09 Lach: i guess i could rotate the pattern before it clockwise or something
16:09 Lach: so it still leads onto it
16:10 Lach: actually i'll just move it all up idk
16:10 Kaguya Hourain: Like [http://puu.sh/hVfl2.jpg this]?
16:10 Kaguya Hourain: 00:08:444 (2) - I think this slider should have its head a bit higher than it should have its tail on the grid cuz you know music and stuff
16:10 Lach: nah i can't stand the way it looks rotated
16:11 Kaguya Hourain: Alright, Insane time
16:12 Kaguya Hourain: 00:03:802 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is nice
16:12 Kaguya Hourain: Conveys music nicely
16:12 Kaguya Hourain: 00:09:516 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This doesn't
16:13 Lach: just like
16:13 Kaguya Hourain: Grid placement
16:13 Lach: ctrl+c and ctrl+h the first one?|
16:13 Lach: lol
16:13 Kaguya Hourain: No it's different
16:14 Lach: i feel like pitch relevancy is largely irrelevant in stuff like that
16:14 Kaguya Hourain: It's always relevant
16:15 Kaguya Hourain: This is a set of doubles in music
16:15 Lach: ok ignoring that, i just copied the other one for now
16:15 Kaguya Hourain: You can do lots with that
16:16 Kaguya Hourain: 00:46:746 (1,1,2) - This WILL confuse people
16:17 Lach: delete 00:46:746 (1,2) -
16:17 Lach: ?
16:17 Kaguya Hourain: Could work
16:17 Kaguya Hourain: You could also space the three beats out
16:17 Kaguya Hourain: To make it clear
16:18 Lach: eh i feel like it's much clearer with just the one circle
16:18 Kaguya Hourain: Sure
16:18 Lach: i don't think they're snapped correctly with the vocals
16:18 Lach: shhh
16:18 Kaguya Hourain: Hahaha
16:18 Kaguya Hourain: 00:47:639 (2) - Beat extends both backwards and forwards
16:18 Kaguya Hourain: You could make this longer
16:19 Lach: yeah it does, but i really hate the 1/8 gap on the slider
16:19 Lach: i'm gonna do this and leave it as a 1/8 single repeat http://puu.sh/hVfLq/ec44701e2f.jpg
16:19 Kaguya Hourain: 00:52:464 (2,3,4) - Considering you use 1/4 here on the doubled bpm part, y'know
16:19 Lach: so it doesn't feel sluggish and sort of stacked-but-not-stacked
16:19 Kaguya Hourain: Ah alright
16:19 Kaguya Hourain: Up to you
16:20 Kaguya Hourain: 00:49:964 (2,3,4) - Flow
16:20 Kaguya Hourain: From 1
16:20 Lach: that was lusts suggestion
16:20 Lach: and tbh it grew on me
16:20 Lach: they were different previously
16:20 Lach: sec
16:20 Kaguya Hourain: That transition is really bad ;-;
16:20 Kaguya Hourain: Why did he tell you to do that?
16:20 Lach: p/4153064
16:21 Kaguya Hourain: 18:11 Lust: circular flow creates better momentum into the following patterns
16:21 Kaguya Hourain: I'm like wtf is he talking about
16:22 Lach: idk
16:22 Kaguya Hourain: You had them like [http://puu.sh/hVfUO.jpg this] right?
16:22 Lach: http://puu.sh/hVfUI/d25d6d2985.jpg or http://puu.sh/hVfVk/d21ba8c4f2.jpg
16:22 Lach: one of the two
16:22 Kaguya Hourain: Considering 1 moves to the right
16:22 Kaguya Hourain: I'd say make 2 start on the left
16:23 Kaguya Hourain: 00:50:678 (4) - And then we have this
16:23 Kaguya Hourain: I mean 2 on the right
16:23 Kaguya Hourain: Like I gave my screenshot
16:23 Kaguya Hourain: FUCK
16:26 Lach: i like 3 on the right
16:26 Kaguya Hourain: Considering the whole structure's flow though, depends on what you like
16:27 Kaguya Hourain: if you want circular you should do it to the left
16:27 Kaguya Hourain: But then 4 breaks all circular flow you had prior so aaaaaaaaaaa
16:27 Lach: the movement onto 4- yeah
16:27 Lach: http://puu.sh/hVgab/cc0ae82e84.jpg this feels food
16:27 Lach: good
16:27 Lach: wtf food
16:28 Kaguya Hourain: Food is good too
16:28 Lach: yes
16:29 Kaguya Hourain: Tbh I'd move 4 on top of 00:50:857 (1) - altogether but eeeeeh
16:29 Kaguya Hourain: Not sure why you put 4 there
16:29 Kaguya Hourain: Care to explain?
16:29 Lach: because of how the pattern was previously
16:30 Kaguya Hourain: OIC
16:30 Lach: hm
16:30 Lach: how about stack it with the head of 2
16:30 Lach: which is on the left
16:30 Kaguya Hourain: Changing the flow of the circle in the next pattern huh
16:30 Kaguya Hourain: It'd be nice yeah
16:31 Kaguya Hourain: 00:58:714 (3) - This needs NC
16:32 Lach: doesn't that break consistency with all of the nc until the end?
16:32 Kaguya Hourain: 01:01:392 (2,3,4) - Not even blanket Lach pls
16:32 Kaguya Hourain: It's a way different part in the music so that would be allowed
16:32 Kaguya Hourain: tbh
16:32 Lach: ok
16:32 Kaguya Hourain: I'd change the whole NCing of the map but disregard that
16:32 Lach: about that blanket
16:32 Lach: the circle also isn't stacked which pisses me off to no end
16:33 Lach: 01:00:499 (6) -
16:33 Kaguya Hourain: Well
16:33 Kaguya Hourain: I'd actually suggest this:
16:33 Kaguya Hourain: http://puu.sh/hVgqC.jpg
16:34 Kaguya Hourain: Because flow to 5
16:35 Lach: mmm
16:36 Lach: it plays as a stack and runs sorta parallel with 6
16:36 Kaguya Hourain: Yeah I know
16:36 Kaguya Hourain: But think of how it plays th
16:36 Kaguya Hourain: o
16:37 Kaguya Hourain: 01:03:714 (1,2,3) - Also think about this
16:38 Lach: make it also parallel
16:39 Kaguya Hourain: It's not about being parallel
16:39 Kaguya Hourain: It's about the transition
16:39 Kaguya Hourain: >_>
16:39 Kaguya Hourain: Look at the previous pattern and the one after it
16:40 Lach: i maded a triangle!1 http://puu.sh/hVgJo/f30b45bb53.jpg
16:40 Kaguya Hourain: haha
16:41 Kaguya Hourain: 01:04:249 (2) - If you moved this to ~233|133 all your problems woulda been solved
16:45 Kaguya Hourain: And at the pattern you were asking about in modhelp
16:45 Kaguya Hourain: I think something like this would be better:
16:45 Kaguya Hourain: http://puu.sh/hVh0p.jpg
16:47 Lach: that works better actually
16:47 Lach: originally 01:09:428 (1) - was 1/1 slider
16:47 Lach: like the others with a jump down to the next combo slider
16:48 Kaguya Hourain: Ye, using the momentum from the sliders to make a big jump like that works really well
16:48 Lach: but i didn't like that
16:48 Kaguya Hourain: Yeah it's better you did it that way
16:49 Lach: pls post the log
16:50 Kaguya Hourain: Sure
Nyxa
848 posts
Joined October 2013
Nyxa
Hey Lach

General
Note: If I tell you to place a note at x123 y123, it doesn't mean you have to place it EXACTLY there, just in that general direction (unless otherwise specified)

Unsnapped greenlines
  1. Insane: 00:05:039 -
  2. Insane: 00:07:896 -

Normal
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:26:302 (3) - This is a super nitpick but if you moved this to the left by like two osupixels the pattern would become more even as a whole
  2. 00:34:873 (4) - This looks kinda sloppy aesthetically speaking, you could try doing a 120° spin with the ensuing slider to smoothen things up a bit
  3. 00:43:532 (4) - I suggest ending this on 00:43:889 - instead, right now it feels really off-rhythm
  4. 00:54:428 (2,3) - I can't seem to come up with a way to fix this without messing with your mapping but I really suggest you redo this, this looks kind of sloppy to me. Maybe something similar to 00:48:714 (2,3,4) - , I think that'd look a lot cleaner.
  5. 00:58:714 (1) - Why not make this into a circle? It feels overmapped, and detracts from 01:00:142 (1,2) - 's purpose of accentuating the vocals
  6. 01:05:857 (2,3) - Why start the slider on a red tick here? It's inconsistent with what you've done before and doesn't seem to accentuate the music very well

Insane
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:03:802 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This works and you could leave it but it feels a little bland as it is, imo. I think you could be more creative with this. Here's a random suggestion but feel free to come up with something of your own http://puu.sh/hWWUa/c975542448.png
  2. 00:09:516 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^Same here of course
  3. 00:32:731 (6) - Why isn't this slider more similar to 00:32:195 (5) - ? Try copying 00:32:195 (5) - and rotating it by 120° so you can get something kinda like this
  4. 00:35:766 (6,7) - This feels rather weak for the sound you're trying to accentuate considering that despite being a legato there's a sudden sharp pitch shift, but due to the angle and momentum from the previous circles this won't play much different from before. Try doing something with just a tad more spacing or a slightly sharper angle.
  5. 00:52:821 (5,6,7) - Try Ctrl + G'ing this and seeing how it looks/plays, I think it'd better fit the flow you're going for here
Nice job on the kiai, it's neat

Short song, short mod. Good luck!
Lach
1,118 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Lach
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Tess wrote:

Hey Lach

General
Note: If I tell you to place a note at x123 y123, it doesn't mean you have to place it EXACTLY there, just in that general direction (unless otherwise specified)

Unsnapped greenlines
  1. Insane: 00:05:039 -
  2. Insane: 00:07:896 -
fixed both

Normal
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:26:302 (3) - This is a super nitpick but if you moved this to the left by like two osupixels the pattern would become more even as a whole sure
  2. 00:34:873 (4) - This looks kinda sloppy aesthetically speaking, you could try doing a 120° spin with the ensuing slider to smoothen things up a bit Angled it downwards and curved it around 3. Helps a lot to illustrate the time gap.
  3. 00:43:532 (4) - I suggest ending this on 00:43:889 - instead, right now it feels really off-rhythm extended it even further than that and changed the spinner
  4. 00:54:428 (2,3) - I can't seem to come up with a way to fix this without messing with your mapping but I really suggest you redo this, this looks kind of sloppy to me. Maybe something similar to 00:48:714 (2,3,4) - , I think that'd look a lot cleaner. Made it lead on to 00:55:142 (4) - in a way that 3 isn't partially covered by the head of 1.
  5. 00:58:714 (1) - Why not make this into a circle? It feels overmapped, and detracts from 01:00:142 (1,2) - 's purpose of accentuating the vocals The slider ends on the beat and feels empty with that omission.
  6. 01:05:857 (2,3) - Why start the slider on a red tick here? It's inconsistent with what you've done before and doesn't seem to accentuate the music very well Moved the pattern forward and changed the slider after.

Insane
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:03:802 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This works and you could leave it but it feels a little bland as it is, imo. I think you could be more creative with this. Here's a random suggestion but feel free to come up with something of your own http://puu.sh/hWWUa/c975542448.png
  2. 00:09:516 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^Same here of course I didn't change these for now but I did something to the second one (basically rotated it, idk) I'll probably do something different for both of them at some point.
  3. 00:32:731 (6) - Why isn't this slider more similar to 00:32:195 (5) - ? Try copying 00:32:195 (5) - and rotating it by 120° so you can get something kinda like this okay
  4. 00:35:766 (6,7) - This feels rather weak for the sound you're trying to accentuate considering that despite being a legato there's a sudden sharp pitch shift, but due to the angle and momentum from the previous circles this won't play much different from before. Try doing something with just a tad more spacing or a slightly sharper angle. Did an incremental spacing increase.
  5. 00:52:821 (5,6,7) - Try Ctrl + G'ing this and seeing how it looks/plays, I think it'd better fit the flow you're going for here. Okay. I had to fix the stacking a little. I hope it's straight.
Nice job on the kiai, it's neat

Short song, short mod. Good luck!

Cheers.
Zexous
713 posts
Joined July 2012
Zexous
SPOILER
2015-08-03 03:20 Zexous: i dont want to mod this normal
2015-08-03 03:20 Zexous: its normal
2015-08-03 03:20 Zexous: sure
2015-08-03 03:20 Zexous: yeah. cool. fine
2015-08-03 03:21 Lach: hmm
2015-08-03 03:21 Zexous: a lot of like
2015-08-03 03:21 Zexous: sliders
2015-08-03 03:21 Zexous: with 1/2 gaps
2015-08-03 03:21 Zexous: room for concern but then again
2015-08-03 03:21 Zexous: what the fuck do i know
2015-08-03 03:21 Lach: it's <2 stars so it's fine
2015-08-03 03:21 Lach: doesn't matter how hard it actually is
2015-08-03 03:22 Zexous: 00:17:552 (3,4,5) - you see the spacing from 3 slider to the two stacked circles
2015-08-03 03:22 Zexous: it's a 1/2 gap
2015-08-03 03:22 Zexous: and yet
2015-08-03 03:22 Zexous: 00:19:873 (2,3,4) - basically same spacing here, but it's a 1/1 gap
2015-08-03 03:22 Zexous: problem
2015-08-03 03:23 Lach: it's all distance snapped
2015-08-03 03:23 Zexous: right but you have to look beyond that
2015-08-03 03:23 Zexous: look at general distances between objects
2015-08-03 03:23 Lach: also the first thing did you link the right stuff?
2015-08-03 03:23 Lach: i don't see any stacked circles
2015-08-03 03:23 Zexous: yes i did
2015-08-03 03:24 Zexous: 4 and 5 are stacked
2015-08-03 03:24 Lach: oh in insane
2015-08-03 03:24 Lach: lmfao
2015-08-03 03:24 Zexous: BRUH
2015-08-03 03:24 Zexous: lmaooooooop
2015-08-03 03:24 Zexous: mb
2015-08-03 03:24 Zexous: i should've said that explictly
2015-08-03 03:24 Zexous: W/E IT'S 3 AM
2015-08-03 03:25 Zexous: anyway yeah
2015-08-03 03:25 Lach: i'll move the first two circles closer
2015-08-03 03:25 Zexous: you do that, trooper
2015-08-03 03:25 Zexous: since that first example is the outlier
2015-08-03 03:26 Lach: also this was never meant to be in stack 0,2
2015-08-03 03:27 Zexous: wow
2015-08-03 03:27 Zexous: whore
2015-08-03 03:27 Lach: it's just that fanzhens diff is in stack 0,2 and i was like ok might as well, it looks cooler
2015-08-03 03:27 Zexous: but this is a pleasant map overall
2015-08-03 03:27 Zexous: you've moved out of your really squarish style that i talked about so so long ago
2015-08-03 03:27 Zexous: i still see some of it though
2015-08-03 03:27 Zexous: like if i were mapping this
2015-08-03 03:28 Zexous: my first instinct would've been to blanket 00:50:857 (1,2) - these perfectlyu
2015-08-03 03:28 Zexous: (you should do that
2015-08-03 03:28 Zexous: both the 2 on the 1 and the 1 on the 3
2015-08-03 03:28 Zexous: 00:56:214 (5) - my flow sense is begging this to be curved towards the left
2015-08-03 03:29 Zexous: i'm just real quick gonna look over at where you could blanket better
2015-08-03 03:29 Lach: http://puu.sh/jnAr8/a0cb70ef49.jpg better?
2015-08-03 03:29 Zexous: the 2 is better
2015-08-03 03:29 Zexous: look at the 3 tho
2015-08-03 03:30 Lach: it honestly looks fine to me
2015-08-03 03:30 Lach: scratching head right now
2015-08-03 03:30 Zexous: i mean it's a mod
2015-08-03 03:30 Zexous: you don't have to care
2015-08-03 03:30 Zexous: if you wanna know, look at how the 3 is closer to the end of the slider
2015-08-03 03:30 Zexous: or at least thats how it looks to me
2015-08-03 03:31 Zexous: here
2015-08-03 03:31 Zexous: http://puu.sh/jnAwd/f784dffb1b.jpg
2015-08-03 03:31 Lach: http://puu.sh/jnAwB/741f393f2c.jpg
2015-08-03 03:31 Zexous: there's still some off
2015-08-03 03:31 Zexous: but this is ocd modding and you don't have to care
2015-08-03 03:32 Zexous: i like ocd modding because i think you can never be too thorough, esp since modding is optional
2015-08-03 03:32 Zexous: but yea
2015-08-03 03:32 Zexous: 00:59:428 (1,2,3,4) - could blanket better
2015-08-03 03:32 Lach: 00:56:214 (5) - what kind of curve do you suggest for this btw
2015-08-03 03:32 Zexous: 01:00:857 (1) - bro this blanket is pretty spot on
2015-08-03 03:32 Lach: a full curve or a slightly offset curve
2015-08-03 03:33 Zexous: i'm trying it out
2015-08-03 03:33 Lach: http://puu.sh/jnACA/59954f233d.jpg
2015-08-03 03:34 Zexous: i was thinking something not ENTIRELY curved but more than that you know
2015-08-03 03:34 Zexous: but i think
2015-08-03 03:34 Zexous: you would have to move the 4 to the right
2015-08-03 03:34 Zexous: to make that not look as shitty
2015-08-03 03:34 Zexous: up to you
2015-08-03 03:34 Zexous: [http://puu.sh/jnAG1/cafc8c3eed.jpg VERY ROUGH sketch of what i had in mind]
2015-08-03 03:35 Zexous: nice hitsounding btw
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: 01:07:642 (7,1) - could blanket better
2015-08-03 03:36 Lach: i'd much prefer to have it more straight than that
2015-08-03 03:36 Lach: and ty
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: yea i figured
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: that's your thing
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: your creed, your motif
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: i guess you could say you're pretty...
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: ...straight edge
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: BAHHAAAAAA
2015-08-03 03:36 Zexous: sorry i dont need to reiterate what time it is that's my excuse
2015-08-03 03:37 Lach: nice
2015-08-03 03:37 Lach: it would be easier to move 01:08:535 (2,1) - right a bit to make the blanket of 1 work
2015-08-03 03:37 Lach: and then adjust the curvature of 01:07:642 (7) -
2015-08-03 03:38 Zexous: yea it would
2015-08-03 03:38 Lach: fuck i need to disable this video while editing
2015-08-03 03:38 Lach: it rapes the game client
2015-08-03 03:38 Zexous: i literally see no video
2015-08-03 03:38 Lach: but it's perfectly fine in play mode like ???
2015-08-03 03:38 Lach: o?
2015-08-03 03:38 Zexous: wait does having video disabled in settings disable it for editor too
2015-08-03 03:38 Lach: i think so
2015-08-03 03:39 Zexous: i'm not sure how i feel about that
2015-08-03 03:39 Zexous: like before all i did was map and do everythign and THEN add video
2015-08-03 03:39 Lach: oh yes, it does
2015-08-03 03:39 Zexous: so i wouldn't be fucking blinded while mapping
2015-08-03 03:39 Zexous: but can i like...not add videos to my maps now and see if anything is up?
2015-08-03 03:39 Zexous: like if i inserted a video would i be completely blind to it and never know if i accidentally uploaded some hardcore anal fisting to the sound of tv size animu
2015-08-03 03:40 Lach: holy
2015-08-03 03:40 Lach: shit
2015-08-03 03:40 Lach: i mean sure you could
2015-08-03 03:40 Lach: but you would have to fuck up pretty bad to drag that into the editor
2015-08-03 03:40 Zexous: you seem surprised
2015-08-03 03:40 Zexous: LOL
2015-08-03 03:41 Zexous: oh btw
2015-08-03 03:41 Zexous: 00:22:195 (1,2) - this
2015-08-03 03:41 Zexous: 00:32:730 (6) - what if you made this straight. think about it
2015-08-03 03:41 Zexous: i think that sounds p hot
2015-08-03 03:42 Lach: it has the same curve as 5
2015-08-03 03:42 Zexous: yea
2015-08-03 03:42 Zexous: but think about it
2015-08-03 03:42 Zexous: it looks p hot
2015-08-03 03:42 Zexous: its not a requirement that it be the same as the other one
2015-08-03 03:42 Lach: like
2015-08-03 03:43 Lach: straight as in directly straight or angled slightly upwards?
2015-08-03 03:43 Zexous: i was actually thinking angled slightly downwards
2015-08-03 03:43 Zexous: but you could actually do still curved angled upwards
2015-08-03 03:44 Lach: currently it's pretty much pointing at 7
2015-08-03 03:44 Lach: which is why it has that curve
2015-08-03 03:44 Zexous: no yeh i know
2015-08-03 03:44 Zexous: wait
2015-08-03 03:44 Lach: also i noticed you played these wrong 00:37:282 (2,3) -
2015-08-03 03:44 Zexous: pointing at 8?
2015-08-03 03:44 Lach: both times
2015-08-03 03:44 Zexous: yea i did play those wrong
2015-08-03 03:44 Lach: 00:32:730 (6,7) -
2015-08-03 03:44 Zexous: dude i didn't even notice the timing on those notes
2015-08-03 03:44 Zexous: that's some funky shit
2015-08-03 03:45 Zexous: stacking is not advisable
2015-08-03 03:45 Zexous: like its better than having them seperate but i'd recommend a slider
2015-08-03 03:45 Zexous: oh shit man
2015-08-03 03:45 Zexous: i had circle selected so it was fucking up my numbers lol
2015-08-03 03:46 Zexous: dude on the 6 slider
2015-08-03 03:46 Zexous: you could do straight and still have it pointing straight at 7
2015-08-03 03:46 Zexous: feels bette rimo
2015-08-03 03:46 Lach: ok
2015-08-03 03:46 Zexous: oh shit
2015-08-03 03:47 Zexous: i just realized
2015-08-03 03:47 Zexous: all of these notes are fucked
2015-08-03 03:47 Zexous: 00:36:568 - aroudn this part
2015-08-03 03:47 Zexous: shit yo
2015-08-03 03:47 Lach: you mean the timing?
2015-08-03 03:47 Zexous: yea
2015-08-03 03:47 Lach: there's nothing i can do about that
2015-08-03 03:48 Zexous: i know
2015-08-03 03:48 Lach: shh
2015-08-03 03:48 Zexous: i mean like my go-to for weird rhythm is sliders
2015-08-03 03:48 Zexous: but since it only happens twice and you have some nice consistency
2015-08-03 03:48 Zexous: i'd feel bad having the consistency fucked in the ass
2015-08-03 03:48 Zexous: so . . . idk man up to you
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Jazz for your soul

Insane;
00:47:639 (2) - Technically the violin run starts earlier than this. It's just really quiet.

Normal:
00:41:389 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - I know you're trying to follow the words here but this note density might be a little much for the lowerst diff of the map.
01:01:749 (4,5) - "hurr durr stacks are too hard for normal players im a qat i swear"

That's literally it thanks for not making shit maps.
Lach
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Topic Starter
Lach

Reditum wrote:

Jazz for your soul

Insane;
00:47:639 (2) - Technically the violin run starts earlier than this. It's just really quiet. If it does, I feel like it's too inaudible to bother mapping to it.

Normal:
00:41:389 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - I know you're trying to follow the words here but this note density might be a little much for the lowerst diff of the map. Removed the second circle in the second combo
01:01:749 (4,5) - "hurr durr stacks are too hard for normal players im a qat i swear" Changed to a 1/2 repeat

That's literally it thanks for not making shit maps.
Yuii-
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Yuii-
We literally changed everything.

damn logs
2015-08-05 22:52 Lach: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/702981 TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'Park - LANA - Kiroku no Kakera - [Insane]]
2015-08-05 22:52 Yuii-: I already have the map wtf
2015-08-05 22:53 Lach: probably the old version
2015-08-05 22:53 Lach: if fanzhen is the uploader
2015-08-05 22:53 Yuii-: So I have to re download?
2015-08-05 22:53 Lach: if it doesn't have me as the creator, yes
2015-08-05 22:54 Lach: if it does, you probably don't have to, lol
2015-08-05 22:54 Yuii-: no, no
2015-08-05 22:54 Yuii-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3493103
2015-08-05 22:54 Yuii-: you haven't even changed the bg haha
2015-08-05 22:56 Yuii-: would you mind IRC'ing?
2015-08-05 22:56 Lach: it doesn't bother me too much either way
2015-08-05 22:56 Lach: if you want to, sure
2015-08-05 22:57 Yuii-: okay, Normal!
2015-08-05 22:57 Yuii-: Widescreen support aehuauh
2015-08-05 22:58 Lach: ok changes
2015-08-05 22:58 Lach: changed
2015-08-05 22:59 Yuii-: 00:28:444 (2) - this is very questionable for a Normal diff, mapping on blue ticks is quite difficult to judge on difficulties of this level + you are ignoring an important beat in 00:28:980 -
2015-08-05 22:59 Yuii-: it sounds good, just add a circle in 28:980 and that should fix it
2015-08-05 23:00 Yuii-: x348 y280 for perfectd s
2015-08-05 23:01 Yuii-: 00:36:123 (1) - this should be 1/6 00:36:361 -
2015-08-05 23:01 Lach: i had to move the entire 00:27:730 (5,1,2) - slightly over to the right and adjust the curvature
2015-08-05 23:02 Yuii-: 00:33:623 (1) - what do you think about adding a reverse to this slider? to cover both vocals and sound
2015-08-05 23:02 Yuii-: I will see it once you update it, but seems good!
2015-08-05 23:03 Lach: wouldn't that be a bit dangerous given the distance of 00:34:159 (2) -
2015-08-05 23:03 Lach: it would have to be practically stacked
2015-08-05 23:05 Yuii-: yup, but that's all I can think about it
2015-08-05 23:05 Yuii-: give me a minute because the offset is slightly off
2015-08-05 23:06 Yuii-: let me re-dl
2015-08-05 23:06 Yuii-: oh, wait, are you using a video?
2015-08-05 23:06 Lach: yes
2015-08-05 23:07 Yuii-: Enable Widescreen then, I didn't know sorry
2015-08-05 23:07 Lach: there's no breaks so it doesn't really matter
2015-08-05 23:07 Lach: in any of the difficulties
2015-08-05 23:10 Yuii-: and then Insane, right?
2015-08-05 23:11 Lach: yeah
2015-08-05 23:11 Yuii-: imo Fanzhen should 01:10:857 (5) - NC that
2015-08-05 23:11 Yuii-: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/697678 TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'Park - LANA - Kiroku no Kakera - [fanzhen's Hard]]
2015-08-05 23:11 Yuii-: okay, Insane
2015-08-05 23:11 Lach: i'll do it
2015-08-05 23:12 Lach: it's something minor and i don't have contact with him right now anyway
2015-08-05 23:12 Yuii-: oh, sure!
2015-08-05 23:12 Yuii-: about Normal that I forgot 00:12:552 - 00:12:641 - 00:13:177 - unused green lines
2015-08-05 23:13 Lach: oh, sure
2015-08-05 23:13 Lach: it's just copied from the hard so i completely forgot about fixing those
2015-08-05 23:13 Yuii-: oh dw
2015-08-05 23:14 Yuii-: Both Normal and Insane
2015-08-05 23:14 Yuii-: NC after 00:02:730 (2) -
2015-08-05 23:14 Lach: nc on 00:03:802 (3) - ?
2015-08-05 23:15 Yuii-: yup!
2015-08-05 23:15 Yuii-: also slightly adjust 00:10:766 (1) - (fanzhen's Hard) so it matches with your Insane
2015-08-05 23:15 Yuii-: do the same in fanzhen's Insane
2015-08-05 23:17 Lach: okay
2015-08-05 23:17 Yuii-: 00:15:052 - (On your Hard) what about adding a circle?
2015-08-05 23:18 Lach: i suppose i use that kind of rhythm throughout so sure
2015-08-05 23:19 Yuii-: 00:37:520 (3) - (On your Hard again) shouldn't this circle be placed in 00:37:460 - ? I know you are following the vocals, but... this is questionable in terms of positioning in the timeline
2015-08-05 23:19 Lach: aheheh
2015-08-05 23:20 Lach: there's another repetition of that, i considered using a slider for that pattern and using the 1/3
2015-08-05 23:20 Lach: but i think i should just put it back to the 1/4
2015-08-05 23:20 Lach: i just felt like doing it to be cruel since it's technically not incorrect
2015-08-05 23:20 Yuii-: that's for sure, the problem is that it's quite annoying to play
2015-08-05 23:20 Yuii-: since it's only that circle placed randomly
2015-08-05 23:21 Lach: 00:40:318 (3) -
2015-08-05 23:21 00:40:377 (3) - *
2015-08-05 23:21 Lach: but it's like
2015-08-05 23:21 Lach: harder on the second one because there's something other than vocals happening
2015-08-05 23:21 Lach: piano on the 1/4
2015-08-05 23:21 Lach: i'll move them back to 1/4 lol, save confusion
2015-08-05 23:23 Yuii-: yup, preferably
2015-08-05 23:23 Yuii-: by the way, nice stack leniency
2015-08-05 23:24 Lach: i'm
2015-08-05 23:24 Lach: channeling my inner chinese mapper!
2015-08-05 23:24 Yuii-: according to this AiMod is unrankable
2015-08-05 23:24 Lach: jk i just did it because fanzhen did it and would like to keep it consistent
2015-08-05 23:24 Lach: supposedly it's not unrankable
2015-08-05 23:25 Lach: manually setting stack 0.0 in the .osu file is
2015-08-05 23:25 Lach: since it only affects 1/2 stacking with 0.2
2015-08-05 23:25 Yuii-: oh, he actually did it on the Insane
2015-08-05 23:25 Yuii-: well, leave it if you want
2015-08-05 23:26 Yuii-: if you disable the Widescreen in Normal, make sure to do it in the other diffs!
2015-08-05 23:26 Lach: lots of maps get ranked with 0.2 so i'm fairly sure it isn't something that people do sneakily
2015-08-05 23:26 Lach: already did it
2015-08-05 23:27 Yuii-: oki
2015-08-05 23:27 Yuii-: 00:11:614 - (On Normal) this green line is unsnapped
2015-08-05 23:28 Lach: it's snapped to 1/16 isn't it?
2015-08-05 23:28 Lach: same as every other difficulty
2015-08-05 23:28 Yuii-: yup, but it should be in the blue tick
2015-08-05 23:29 Yuii-: let me check fanzhen's Insane
2015-08-05 23:30 Yuii-: 00:20:944 - why would he ignore this beat ;w;
2015-08-05 23:32 Lach: i think he's following the bassline primarily
2015-08-05 23:33 Lach: maybe not, idk
2015-08-05 23:33 Yuii-: we will never know
2015-08-05 23:33 Lach: i don't really want to change something like that, it's not like it plays awfully at least since the stuff before it relatively inaudible
2015-08-05 23:33 Yuii-: anyway! 00:13:623 - (On fanzhen's Hard) this green line has the same values that the previous one, so it's unnecessary
2015-08-05 23:34 Yuii-: same goes to the other diffs
2015-08-05 23:34 Yuii-: actually not in your insane
2015-08-05 23:34 Lach: fixed it in both fanzhen's difficulties
2015-08-05 23:34 Yuii-: update and let's do a recheck
2015-08-05 23:35 Lach: and already changed it in the normal from before
2015-08-05 23:35 Lach: done
2015-08-05 23:38 Yuii-: you should have done an easy :(
2015-08-05 23:39 Lach: the original set had one, but i don't really know kodora and didn't really want to ask him if i could adopt his difficulty
2015-08-05 23:40 Yuii-: and he got banned ahuea
2015-08-05 23:40 Yuii-: okay, let's move forward
2015-08-05 23:40 Yuii-: bubble #1 buddy
2015-08-05 23:40 Yuii-: oh waitiw tiaitwaitwai
2015-08-05 23:40 Yuii-: let me re-check that offset
2015-08-05 23:41 Lach: if there was a place that the offset is slightly off, i would say it's from the start to 00:13:266 -
2015-08-05 23:42 Lach: it's ever so slightly late for that section
2015-08-05 23:42 Yuii-: the second offset
2015-08-05 23:42 Yuii-: 36.580
2015-08-05 23:42 Yuii-: sounds way better
2015-08-05 23:43 Yuii-: the first offset seems to be 2.198
2015-08-05 23:46 Lach: 3ms seems like a small amount to move
2015-08-05 23:46 Yuii-: yup, almost nothing and unnoticeable
2015-08-05 23:46 Yuii-: though Loctav says it's very important !
2015-08-05 23:46 Lach: do it anyway?
2015-08-05 23:46 Lach: ok
2015-08-05 23:47 Lach: fortunately it's very easy to move
2015-08-05 23:47 Yuii-: and we even have a button to snap everything
2015-08-05 23:47 Yuii-: update and go go
2015-08-05 23:48 Lach: i don't use that because it might confuse the 1/8 later on, so i just shift the all the timing sections up to the second red line and then highlight the objects
2015-08-05 23:48 Lach: shift all the timing sections&*
2015-08-05 23:48 Yuii-: oh, right, you are using some 1/6 and 1/8 illegal things (?
2015-08-05 23:49 Lach: nah 00:47:651 -
2015-08-05 23:49 Lach: stuff like that might get broken if the divisor isn't set to 1/8 or something
2015-08-05 23:49 Lach: so i just avoid it entirely by manually shifting the affected objects
2015-08-05 23:49 Yuii-: yeah, you are right!
2015-08-05 23:50 Lach: hokay
2015-08-05 23:50 Lach: just going to play through everything real quick to see if i messed anything up
2015-08-05 23:51 Yuii-: oki
2015-08-05 23:53 Lach: fanzhen'
2015-08-05 23:53 Lach: s hard
2015-08-05 23:53 Lach: 00:04:876 - lol
2015-08-05 23:53 Lach: 5% volume
2015-08-05 23:54 Lach: moved it forward onto the spinner so the circle retains the original volume
2015-08-05 23:54 Yuii-: update again
2015-08-05 23:56 Lach: alright, everything looks right
2015-08-05 23:56 Yuii-: waiting on update!
2015-08-05 23:57 Lach: stuck on distributing to global network zz
2015-08-05 23:57 Lach: ok done
2015-08-06 00:01 Yuii-: okay ez pz
2015-08-06 00:01 Yuii-: bubble #1
2015-08-06 00:01 Lach: #1?
2015-08-06 00:01 Lach: is this approval now
2015-08-06 00:01 Yuii-: nah
2015-08-06 00:01 Yuii-: but
2015-08-06 00:01 Yuii-: YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT

BUBBLED!
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Krfawy
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Krfawy
Hi, a mod from me as requested in #modhelp \o/

I'm popping the bubble because:
  1. The mp3 file you're using is 464kb/s now when 192kb/s is the maximum.
  2. OD5 in the lowest difficulty is too high and for sure it would be the reason to disqualify the mapset. Change it to 4, please.
Normal
  1. 00:16:126 (5,1,2) - That is very complex if you ask me. Just making a small gap would help people to recover from clicking and holding buttons since it should be as easy as possible and when it's not that easy. Remember that noobs have right to play accurate diffs as well! :( So I suggest making something like *THIS* in terms of rhythm.
  2. 00:27:733 (5,1,2,3,4) - Very comples rhythm again so I highly suggest some *LOOSE* rhythms again.
  3. 00:36:126 (1) - I know there is a certain point that might allow you to use custom spacing here, but since you're using not that simple rhythms and rather dense ones and because it's already hard to play now I'd rather want to see a normal spacing here. *SIMPLE EXAMPLE*
  4. 00:41:937 (6,7) - Quite hard to follow and we all know that sliders are easier to follow. You know what I mean Lach, a slider instead of two circles, please. :3
  5. 00:58:714 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I don't get why you're using different spacing here, really. The singer is singing a bit higher here but it's not a good point to use a higher spacing in the lowest diff, definitely a huge no from me. Just use a normal spacing like you've been doing so far, please.
  6. 01:10:857 (1) - And this is spaced so far away when it should be closer to another note if you look at the spacing that you've been using previously. : P
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Lach
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Topic Starter
Lach

Krfawy wrote:

Hi, a mod from me as requested in #modhelp \o/

I'm popping the bubble because:
  1. The mp3 file you're using is 464kb/s now when 192kb/s is the maximum. Already cleared this up in pm.
  2. OD5 in the lowest difficulty is too high and for sure it would be the reason to disqualify the mapset. Change it to 4, please. Lowered OD and HP by 1 as it's my general rule of thumb for difficulty settings.
Normal
  1. 00:16:126 (5,1,2) - That is very complex if you ask me. Just making a small gap would help people to recover from clicking and holding buttons since it should be as easy as possible and when it's not that easy. Remember that noobs have right to play accurate diffs as well! :( So I suggest making something like *THIS* in terms of rhythm. Changed 00:16:126 (5) - into a circle with a bit of a gap, hopefully that will suffice for not making the pattern feel too long. It's not an overly complex pattern for 168 bpm, though.
  2. 00:27:733 (5,1,2,3,4) - Very comples rhythm again so I highly suggest some *LOOSE* rhythms again.Okay.
  3. 00:36:126 (1) - I know there is a certain point that might allow you to use custom spacing here, but since you're using not that simple rhythms and rather dense ones and because it's already hard to play now I'd rather want to see a normal spacing here. *SIMPLE EXAMPLE* Changed similar to example.
  4. 00:41:937 (6,7) - Quite hard to follow and we all know that sliders are easier to follow. You know what I mean Lach, a slider instead of two circles, please. :3 Changed to a slider and shifted 00:42:294 (1,2,3) - down to accommodate.
  5. 00:58:714 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I don't get why you're using different spacing here, really. The singer is singing a bit higher here but it's not a good point to use a higher spacing in the lowest diff, definitely a huge no from me. Just use a normal spacing like you've been doing so far, please. I changed it, but I'm not really happy about doing so because no matter what i tried it just looks kinda weird to me.
  6. 01:10:857 (1) - And this is spaced so far away when it should be closer to another note if you look at the spacing that you've been using previously. : P Changed the locations pretty much, it makes more sense now.
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For anyone wondering, for that second bubble I realized that the p in Jazzin'park was capitalized for some reason.
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oh it worked
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Nice BG. Congrats, Lach.
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