Grant Bowtie - Cloud Nine · forum

dylansantosh

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

dylansantosh 2015-04-25T16:45:00+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 11:46:07 AM

Artist: Grant Bowtie
Title: Cloud Nine
BPM: 160
Filesize: 4971kb
Play Time: 03:29
Difficulties Available:

Dejirum's Insane (4.54 stars, 672 notes)
Extra (3.83 stars, 81 notes)
Hard (3.03 stars, 341 notes)
Light Insane (3.91 stars, 500 notes)

Download: Grant Bowtie - Cloud Nine
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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First beatmap!, Re Download after 7/13/15

5/8/16 = Ungraveyard <3

Editors note's

5/8/16
Global: Ungraveyard!!!
Insane: Remap till 59.5%
Hard: Remap till 5.5%
5/9/16
Insane: Remap till 87.8%
5/10/16
Insane: Renamed to Light Insane, also completely remapped
Hard: Remap till 8.8%
5/11/16
Hard: Remap till 23.3%
5/12/16
Hard: Remap till 59.6%
Extra: Added, mapped till 8.7%
14/5/16
Hard: Remap till 65.1%
Extra: mapped till uh, somewhere, idk

Mods applied:

Arphimigon
Thunderstyle
imthenewfish (IRC)
MokouSmoke
Exa
No-Ah
NolanM

Last edited by dylansantosh 2016-05-14T10:54:09+00:00, edited 86 times in total.

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2015-04-26T12:22:44+00:00

Imma just drop by here
Offset -20

start of mod in log form

13:09 Arphimigon: 00:08:980 (4) - like this should be 1/4 back
13:09 Arphimigon: 00:11:230 (4,5) - gl playing these if 4 is gonna be so long
13:10 Arphimigon: 00:14:605 (2,3,4) - Weird distancing here
13:10 Arphimigon: 00:14:980 (4,5) - Fix slider lenghts dont end on weird ticks, try the white ones
13:10 Arphimigon: 00:17:417 (3,4,5) - Start too close to last slider, could be read as starting 1/4 away
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:18:542 (2,3,4,1) - Why so close? spread em out
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:23:136 (6) - Weird rhythm her
13:11 Arphimigon: start it 1/4 later
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:23:605 (8,1) - Bad overlap kek
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:25:292 - Missing a sound here
13:12 Arphimigon: 00:26:605 (2,3,4) - Too sudden doesnt fit with the calmness of the map, reduce DS or make the flow less snappy
13:12 Arphimigon: 00:27:917 (6,7) - Lol this DS dont stack these
13:12 Arphimigon: 00:29:417 (3) - Plays better being lower

00:42:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Could benefit from symettry like ctrl-h/j and should be remapped in the same style but neater (try and find out)
Plus jumps are weird kek try and be less darty
00:54:000 (2) - Can't you make this look nicer? Try a fish https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3057612 (really quickly made)
00:54:000 (2,3,4,5) - NC these pls
01:03:562 (5) - Dont stack start and end, looks and plays bad
01:18:937 (4,5,6) - Fix spacing and spread out from last note
01:20:812 - Add note
01:23:250 (3,4) - Make slider start 1/4 later and add a note instead!
01:28:125 (6) - So many missed beats
01:34:031 (4) - Start 1/4 later and add a note in the place

Just a quick overview, gl!

dylansantosh

313 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

dylansantosh 2015-04-29T15:22:42+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
Imma just drop by here
Offset -20

start of mod in log form
13:09 Arphimigon: 00:08:980 (4) - like this should be 1/4 back
13:09 Arphimigon: 00:11:230 (4,5) - gl playing these if 4 is gonna be so long
13:10 Arphimigon: 00:14:605 (2,3,4) - Weird distancing here
13:10 Arphimigon: 00:14:980 (4,5) - Fix slider lenghts dont end on weird ticks, try the white ones
13:10 Arphimigon: 00:17:417 (3,4,5) - Start too close to last slider, could be read as starting 1/4 away
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:18:542 (2,3,4,1) - Why so close? spread em out
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:23:136 (6) - Weird rhythm her
13:11 Arphimigon: start it 1/4 later
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:23:605 (8,1) - Bad overlap kek
13:11 Arphimigon: 00:25:292 - Missing a sound here
13:12 Arphimigon: 00:26:605 (2,3,4) - Too sudden doesnt fit with the calmness of the map, reduce DS or make the flow less snappy
13:12 Arphimigon: 00:27:917 (6,7) - Lol this DS dont stack these
13:12 Arphimigon: 00:29:417 (3) - Plays better being lower

00:42:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Could benefit from symettry like ctrl-h/j and should be remapped in the same style but neater (try and find out)
Plus jumps are weird kek try and be less darty
00:54:000 (2) - Can't you make this look nicer? Try a fish https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3057612 (really quickly made)
00:54:000 (2,3,4,5) - NC these pls
01:03:562 (5) - Dont stack start and end, looks and plays bad
01:18:937 (4,5,6) - Fix spacing and spread out from last note
01:20:812 - Add note
01:23:250 (3,4) - Make slider start 1/4 later and add a note instead!
01:28:125 (6) - So many missed beats
01:34:031 (4) - Start 1/4 later and add a note in the place

Just a quick overview, gl!

I think alot of these do not apply anymore, but even still it helped me alot

I also fully mapped it now

Estonian Bear

12 posts

Joined October 2014

Estonian Bear 2015-05-08T20:01:48+00:00

Insane

00:55:000-01:05:000 - should have more of 6 hit streams. It's a great part of the song, but it's just empty.... The 1 6 hit stream, while being great along with its followup, does come along feeling awkward and out of place as things currently are. The song already has more than enough empty space pausing, so this area should be filled since it has potential to be one of the most fun.

01:47:400 (1) - The repeater is too long imho. It would feel much more fun and pleasant if it were split into either 2 repeaters or a repeater + singletap(s).

03:06:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The timing of the beatmap feels completely off, needs rehaul.

03:10:000 - should NOT be empty, it's very confusing and rhythmbreaking as it currently is. Please put at least 1 or 2 single taps in there or a small slider.

This beatmap has so much potential, I'm sure it will get ranked eventually. I can't wait to play it in completed format

Cheers,
Feliks~~

-Kanzaki

889 posts

Joined June 2012

-Kanzaki 2015-05-31T19:32:13+00:00

Hello there! From my queue.

General :

Distance snap enables one to ensure beats that are close together on the timeline are close together on the beatmap, and vice versa. This helps with intuitive play and good beat spacing. If you stick to using Distance Snap for the whole song, correct beat spacing is guaranteed!

Example on insane diff
00:08:210 (1,2) - ok here you used long distance right because you wait some here and then tap the circle 2 and then 00:08:772 (3) - you tap this but it is close to circle 2 because there is only 200 miliseconod around them i mean they are close so basicly the thing i am trying to say 00:08:210 (1,2,3,4) - this distances are correct but 00:14:210 (1,2) - 00:08:210 (1,2) - these are same right? but 00:14:210 (1,2) this is wrong it is close.
I hope i you understand what i mean.

And telling to normal difficulty owner, 2.0 DS is not really neccesary i recommend 1.2 - 1.4 DS.

Insane :

00:00:053 (1) - ok end this spin at 00:04:085 and better not use that hitsound or lower the volume.
00:04:460 (1) - 00:05:022 (5) - 00:05:210 (6) - add circle
00:04:647 (2,3,4) - make triple
00:06:522 (2,3) - ok so this distance is ok but then there is this 00:06:897 (4,5) - so they both acctualy same thing but why different distance
00:14:210 (1,2) - you used this distance on this but 00:14:585 (2,3) - this has more distance so im am done with distances i will show something then you can fix all distances i hope.

Call me for recheck after fixing this distance issue, your object's positions are going to change so for now modding this won't really helpful.

dylansantosh

313 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

dylansantosh 2015-05-31T20:31:03+00:00

-Kanzaki wrote:
Hello there! From my queue.

General :
Distance snap enables one to ensure beats that are close together on the timeline are close together on the beatmap, and vice versa. This helps with intuitive play and good beat spacing. If you stick to using Distance Snap for the whole song, correct beat spacing is guaranteed!

Example on insane diff
00:08:210 (1,2) - ok here you used long distance right because you wait some here and then tap the circle 2 and then 00:08:772 (3) - you tap this but it is close to circle 2 because there is only 200 miliseconod around them i mean they are close so basicly the thing i am trying to say 00:08:210 (1,2,3,4) - this distances are correct but 00:14:210 (1,2) - 00:08:210 (1,2) - these are same right? but 00:14:210 (1,2) this is wrong it is close.
I hope i you understand what i mean.

And telling to normal difficulty owner, 2.0 DS is not really neccesary i recommend 1.2 - 1.4 DS.

Insane :
00:00:053 (1) - ok end this spin at 00:04:085 and better not use that hitsound or lower the volume.
00:04:460 (1) - 00:05:022 (5) - 00:05:210 (6) - add circle
00:04:647 (2,3,4) - make triple
00:06:522 (2,3) - ok so this distance is ok but then there is this 00:06:897 (4,5) - so they both acctualy same thing but why different distance
00:14:210 (1,2) - you used this distance on this but 00:14:585 (2,3) - this has more distance so im am done with distances i will show something then you can fix all distances i hope.

Call me for recheck after fixing this distance issue, your object's positions are going to change so for now modding this won't really helpful.

I re-snapped most of insane, although i though when you are mapping insane DS is not important to the point that you need to DS everything?
Oh well did it anyway, been waiting for modding long enough now xD

MokouSmoke

495 posts

Joined May 2013

MokouSmoke 2015-07-05T20:44:54+00:00

Black = Suggestions
Blue = Recommended fixes

[Insane]
General
- why CS3.9? Using CS4.0 is standard and doesn't change anything imho
- I'd consider bumping up SV to 1.5 or 1.6. Your sliders are slooow compared to everything else (ex. 01:35:210 (1,2,3,4,5) - )

Map
00:07:272 (6) - style preference, but curve slider up for better aesthetics/flow (applies to a lot of other straight sliders as well, but I won't mention them all)

SPOILER

http://puu.sh/iO9cE/efffffd13b.jpg

00:08:960 (4,5,1) - ^

SPOILER

00:41:960 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm isn't intuitive coming from break, but not sure how to fix. Maybe start with sliders?
00:52:460 (1) - this rhythm switch x.x I suggest moving some notes so it's more apparent that the rhythm changes here. For example, triangle patterns

SPOILER

00:55:085 (5,6,7,8,9) - use soft hitsounds here?
00:58:085 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:01:085 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:21:897 (4,5) - move right for better flow
01:23:210 (3) - break up into two sliders
01:21:522 (3,4) - could change this into a slider
01:27:897 (7) - DS
01:28:085 (1) - curve slider for flow
01:31:085 (5) - ^
01:33:897 (4,5,6) - move (4,5) to the right and curve (6) so it blankets (7)

SPOILER

01:35:960 - strong beat here and needs something clickable
01:41:210 (1) - break into 2 sliders
01:54:147 - this is quite a long break. There are some nice rhythms starting at 02:05:960 - that you can map
02:20:960 (5) - unnecessary overlap
02:26:397 (5,6,7,8,9) - DS
02:27:710 (3) - weird slider. I'd stretch this more vertically
02:30:522 (3,4,5) - DS
02:32:772 (5,6,7) - ^
02:44:022 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - DS and move (4) to the right. Maybe curve the stream more for better flow
02:45:897 (4,5,6,7,8) - flow needs some improvement here. See below for ex.

SPOILER

02:47:866 (8) - Don't start slider on a blue tick! Move slider start to 02:47:866 (8) - and add a note at 02:47:866 -
02:52:647 (7,1,2) - use same DS as 02:51:897 (4,5,6) -
02:53:303 (1) - remove NC and add NC at 02:53:960 (3) -
02:53:397 (2) - remove whistle and add finish to be consistent with 02:52:647 (7) -
02:59:210 (1) - break into two sliders
03:00:897 (5,6) - move down for better flow
03:05:960 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - err... what instrument are you mapping here? 03:06:241 (2) - on a blue tick mark is not intuitive to play
03:06:241 (2) - no reason for these pauses. they disrupt flow and rhythm. just map it out
03:11:210 - ^ (comment applies all the way until end of song) You can use 1/1 sliders here to fill space
03:18:053 (1) - x.x
03:29:960 (1) - >.<

Overall, still needs some work but fun map so far

[Hard]
General
- the first 30 secs requires a lot of fixing. DS is all over the place
The rest of the map also has spacing issues. It looks like from the other comments, you're already working on it, but this needs more work compared to your insane.
Please use a slower SV than your Insane

Map
00:52:085 (7,8,9,10) - unnecessary overlaps
01:03:522 (2) - ^
01:21:522 (3,4,1) - spacing issues
01:24:897 (3,4,5,6) - ^
01:38:960 - need something hitable for downbeat
01:43:272 (1) - repeat slider doesn't fit imho. break into two sliders
01:54:335 - same concerns about break time as insane
02:17:960 (1) - too many repeat sliders in this section. it's more fun if you remove repeats and add more sliders
03:17:960 (1,1) - spinner end point and circle are not at the same times as your insane

[Juhrard's Normal]
General
DS2.0 on a normal diff x.x Please bump up SV (currently your SV spread is 0.7 -> 1.4 -> 1.4 :/) and lower DS
A lot of overlaps that can be avoided. Changing SV/DS will fix that.
Too many repeat sliders for a normal diff imho
The rhythms are too hard for beginners to follow. Needs simpler rhythms with patterns that START ON DOWNBEATS.

Map
00:14:960 (6) - NC
00:18:335 (10) - ^
00:20:960 (14) - ^
00:46:835 (4) - break into two sliders
00:52:085 (2) - remove repeats and add more sliders
00:56:960 (1) - extend to 00:57:522 -
01:08:960 (5) - NC
01:09:522 (6,7) - these sliders could look better imho
01:17:960 (10) - NC
01:22:085 (3,4,5) - DS
01:26:960 (1,2,3,4) - difficult rhythm to play. you need to emphasize the downbeats more in this section
01:32:960 - needs note on downbeat
02:05:960 (1,2,3) - uhh... please don't start sliders on blue tick marks.
02:08:960 (6,7,8) - rhythm doesn't follow anything in the song. please use 1/1 or 1/2 patterns
02:11:960 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:15:147 (6,7,8,9) - ^
02:17:960 (1,2,3,4,5) - so much overlap x.x
02:20:960 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
02:26:960 - ^
02:14:960 - 02:28:460 - , etc... downbeats in this section needs something clickable

Main point is please focus on mapping more intuitive rhythms

Hope that helps and good luck!
PM in-game if you have any questions about my mod.

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Exa 2015-07-05T20:59:57+00:00

Modding done:

[Juhrard's Normal]

- DS is inconsistent.
00:05:210 - End slider.
00:07:085 - You don't skip such beats thought the whole of the song but you do here.
00:07:272 (3,1) - Avoid such overlaps. It's fairly easy to keep Easy/Normal difficulties clean.
00:11:960 (1,2) - Don't use so advanced flow patterns on normal difficulties. Keep the flow relevantly steady.
00:17:210 (9) - Not sure about this. Ask a BN to make sure it will pass the qualification stage.
00:20:585 - Don't skip that.
00:24:335 (2) - The slider ends on the opposite direction of where the flow suggest's the player to go.
00:25:272 (3) - A slider here would fit better since the audio sample is of duration.
00:25:647 - If you follow last suggestion, end the slider here.
00:25:835 - And then use a note here.
00:26:585 - Don't skip.
00:36:335 - Consider silencing the spinner's end.
00:42:335 (2,3) - Not symmetrical.
00:46:085 (3,4) - Imperfect blanket.
00:55:085 (3,4,5,6,7) - Too many notes in a row. Ask a BN about it because it is too hard for Normal level.
00:59:960 (1) - The broken curve here looks bad.
01:02:960 (1,2) - Avoid overlaps when it's easy to. Don't use broken curve as well.
01:03:522 (2,2) - Bad overlap.
01:11:960 (7,9) - Looks too bad.
01:20:960 (1,2) - Too advanced flow.
01:21:335 (2,3) - Inconsistent flow. Things like this are too hard.
01:23:210 (5) - Looks bad.
01:25:085 - Don't skip.
01:25:647 (3,4) - Bad overlap.
01:26:960 (1,2) - They are not symmetrical.
01:28:085 (2,3) - Bad overlap. You can avoid this!
01:29:397 (3) - Looks bad.
01:31:647 - The beat is here. Not on the blue tick.
01:37:647 - There is a beat here. Don't skip.
01:39:522 - The beat is here. Why do you end the slider on the wrong tick?
01:40:647 - The beat is here. Not on the blue tick.
01:43:647 - The beat is here. Grrrrr...
01:43:085 (2,1) - Why make an overlap?!
01:45:710 - You skip major beats.

[Hard]

00:07:085 - Don't skip.
00:08:960 (3,4) - They touch. They should not.
00:08:960 (3,5) - Bad overlap.
00:11:397 (2,1) - Are you trying to blanket?
00:12:522 (2,5) - Bad overlap.
00:14:960 (3,4) - The transition looks bad. The slider tail of (3) has no relation to the head of (4) in terms of flow.
00:16:835 - The beat is here!! Why do you miss beats like that?!
00:17:960 (2,3) - Imperfect blanket.
00:18:897 (4,1) - Imperfect blanket.
00:21:522 - Don't skip that.
00:24:335 - Don't skip that.
01:02:960 (1,2) - Why do you have to make them touch...
01:05:960 - Map that.
01:17:960 (1,2) - Asymmetrical.
01:23:772 - End it here. Make sure you re-position it accordingly.
01:25:647 - Don't skip.
01:24:897 (3,5) - Bad overlap.
01:26:960 (1,4) - bad overlap.
01:29:397 - Don't skip.
01:32:585 (7,2) - Bad overlap.
01:34:647 - Even though you tried to emphasize that beat, you ruined it when you actually emphasized the blue tick before it.
01:35:210 (6,1) - They touch, they could not.
01:37:085 (4,5) - They touch, they should not.
01:37:647 (5,6,1) - Bad overlaps.
01:38:772 (1,4) - Bad overlap.
01:43:085 (5,1) - Bad overlap.
01:45:522 - Don't skip.
01:46:647 - You failed to emphasize this because the sliderbal doesn't turn on this tick. Use a hitobject to emphasize beats. It works best.
01:48:522 - Don't skip.
01:50:960 - Don't skip!!
02:17:210 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Boring to play. The player just keeps his cursor steady most of the time and maybe jumps a bit. Remap this part and use flow.
02:44:772 - Noticeable audio sample here. Don't skip.
02:44:960 (1,2,4) - Bad overlaps.
02:46:647 - Don't skip.
02:50:960 (1,3) - Your mapping style contains a lot of overlaps in general. At least make them symmetrical.
02:52:647 (4,1) - Asymmetrical.
02:54:522 - Don't skip.
03:00:710 (3,5) - Bad overlap.
03:07:085 - Why did you stop the slider before that? There is a clear beat here and you can easily hear it!
03:09:522 (3) - Use a slider here. This audio sample is of duration.

[General]

- Always map with Grid level 4.
- No kiai time.
- All difficulties must end at the same time or else the mapset is unrankable.
- Juhrard's Normal uses patterns and flow techniques that are mostly used in insane difficulties. Make sure to ask a BN about the general structure of the map. Most rhythms are poorly made and the majority of said rhythms is wrong. I seriously suggest remapping.
- I got frustrated in the middle of modding the Normal difficulty so I stopped.
- I didn't mod the insane mostly because it has the same issues with Hard and Normal. Make sure you don't skip beats and don't do overlaps. Also, too curved sliders are bad looking, so avoid them.

Pine

4 posts

Joined April 2014

Pine 2015-07-06T15:09:03+00:00

Juhrard's Normal
00:24:990 - 00:26:278 I think slider 4 should be a little shorter.
01:03:417 - Some sliders have lots of ticks that don't go to a beat.
01:32:282 - 01:33:259 - A little bit awkward with the single note
02:10:553 - Number 8 slider a little weird
02:14:358 - 6 seems a little late
Hard
00:09:522 - 4 to 5 seems a bit awkward
00:12:991 - i think 5 might be a little early
02:17:477 - i think a shorter reverse slider and two notes to the beat would be cool here
03:17:678 - instead of 3 being a single note a short slider would be cool

dylansantosh

313 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

dylansantosh 2015-07-10T14:55:25+00:00

MokouSmoke wrote:
Black = Suggestions
Blue = Recommended fixes

[Insane]
General
- why CS3.9? Using CS4.0 is standard and doesn't change anything imho ✓
- I'd consider bumping up SV to 1.5 or 1.6. Your sliders are slooow compared to everything else (ex. 01:35:210 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) ✓

Map
00:07:272 (6) - style preference, but curve slider up for better aesthetics/flow (applies to a lot of other straight sliders as well, but I won't mention them all)✓
SPOILER
http://puu.sh/iO9cE/efffffd13b.jpg
00:08:960 (4,5,1) - ^
SPOILER
✓
00:41:960 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm isn't intuitive coming from break, but not sure how to fix. Maybe start with sliders?✓
00:52:460 (1) - this rhythm switch x.x I suggest moving some notes so it's more apparent that the rhythm changes here. For example, triangle patterns
SPOILER
✓
00:55:085 (5,6,7,8,9) - use soft hitsounds here?
00:58:085 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:01:085 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:21:897 (4,5) - move right for better flow✓
01:23:210 (3) - break up into two sliders✓
01:21:522 (3,4) - could change this into a slider✓
01:27:897 (7) - DS✓
01:28:085 (1) - curve slider for flow✓
01:31:085 (5) - ^✓
01:33:897 (4,5,6) - move (4,5) to the right and curve (6) so it blankets (7)
SPOILER
01:35:960 - strong beat here and needs something clickable✓
01:41:210 (1) - break into 2 sliders✓
01:54:147 - this is quite a long break. There are some nice rhythms starting at 02:05:960 - that you can map Might do this later.
02:20:960 (5) - unnecessary overlap✓
02:26:397 (5,6,7,8,9) - DS✓
02:27:710 (3) - weird slider. I'd stretch this more vertically ✓
02:30:522 (3,4,5) - DS✓
02:32:772 (5,6,7) - ^✓
02:44:022 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - DS and move (4) to the right. Maybe curve the stream more for better flow✓
02:45:897 (4,5,6,7,8) - flow needs some improvement here. See below for ex. I had to re-snap it anyway.
SPOILER
02:47:866 (8) - Don't start slider on a blue tick! Move slider start to 02:47:866 (8) - and add a note at 02:47:866 - ✓
02:52:647 (7,1,2) - use same DS as 02:51:897 (4,5,6) - ✓
02:53:303 (1) - remove NC and add NC at 02:53:960 (3) -
02:53:397 (2) - remove whistle and add finish to be consistent with 02:52:647 (7) - Will be re-doing hitsounding.
02:59:210 (1) - break into two sliders✓
03:00:897 (5,6) - move down for better flow✓
03:05:960 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - err... what instrument are you mapping here? 03:06:241 (2) - on a blue tick mark is not intuitive to play Changed to slider
03:06:241 (2) - no reason for these pauses. they disrupt flow and rhythm. just map it out✓
03:11:210 - ^ (comment applies all the way until end of song) You can use 1/1 sliders here to fill space✓
03:18:053 (1) - x.x I knew it
03:29:960 (1) - >.< I knew it, But im leaving it :v)

Overall, still needs some work but fun map so far

[Hard]
General
- the first 30 secs requires a lot of fixing. DS is all over the place
The rest of the map also has spacing issues. It looks like from the other comments, you're already working on it, but this needs more work compared to your insane.
Please use a slower SV than your Insane

Map
00:52:085 (7,8,9,10) - unnecessary overlaps?
01:03:522 (2) - ^?
01:21:522 (3,4,1) - spacing issues✓
01:24:897 (3,4,5,6) - ^✓
01:38:96 0 - need something hitable for downbeat✓
01:43:272 (1) - repeat slider doesn't fit imho. break into two sliders✓
01:54:335 - same concerns about break time as insane✓
02:17:960 (1) - too many repeat sliders in this section. it's more fun if you remove repeats and add more sliders
03:17:960 (1,1) - spinner end point and circle are not at the same times as your insane
Re-mapped all of hard's start, started wworking on the rest

Last edited by dylansantosh 2015-07-15T21:39:40+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

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sorrensen_DELETED 2015-07-15T21:17:37+00:00

Hello! Just a quick update on my map. I fixed:
[*Minor spacing and flow issues]

txt file

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Artist:Grant Bowtie
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Creator:DylanSan
Version:Dejirum's Insane
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Thank you and good luck ranking this

Nuolong

1,032 posts

Joined August 2014

Nuolong 2015-07-22T20:09:04+00:00

I FORGOT TO MOD THIS FROM LIKE 3 MONTHS AGO
I'm going to start when I get home in like 10 minutes.
Is it okay if I only mod Insane but a really detailed and critical one? Because if I mod more than one difficulty, I start running out of critical juice and my mod suggestions turn into blobs of senselessness.

Insane (Not GD)
00:05:960 (1,2) - (1) points to a strange direction when (2) is placed where it is. Perhaps you can consider making the slider (1) point to the circle (2) so it plays less awkwardly.
00:07:272 (6) - Adjust this slider so it creates a neat linear path from 00:07:085 (5) - . At its current state, player is required to move their cursor up a bit. This is a picky suggestion that is only to improve the quality!
00:07:835 (7) - What makes you place this circle on the outside of the slider that is curled in on the opposite direction? Perhaps you could move this circle to a logical area. This is my preference.
00:08:960 (4) - You can see this slider overlap 00:09:710 (1) - . You can move these to different positions that keep the same flow.
00:10:272 (2) - Overlaps 00:09:710 (1) - . (^)
00:10:835 (3) - As for visuals, this slider isn't fitting. 1.The curl makes a little attempt to fit in by creating a blanket to an invisible circle below the tail of 00:10:272 (2) - . 2. Straighten it out. To me and many others, sliders curled to such a position looks unappealing. 3. The end of this slider points to the head of 00:10:272 (2) - (not really). It gives the player little to no comfort in moving to the next slider(s) ~ 00:11:210 (4) - .
00:11:585 (6) - ^ (this slider applies to some extent of the aspects of the slider I just previously mentioned)
00:13:085 (5) - When making a jump that partially traces back steps, try not to place it to the position of 00:12:710 (3) - . At least try to put some effort into making the editor look neater, because even though the gameplay might be fine now, it'll be much better if the editor looked neater.
00:12:710 (3) - This slider is a bit more fine, but TRY not to make it so curly, and put some emphasis into making the slider lead to the circle 00:13:835 (7) -
.
00:14:585 (2) - Although gameplay may not seem to change that much, fixing this will definitely make the editor much neater : You can more efficiently make a blanket with 00:14:960 (4) - around it.
00:14:772 (3) - Come on, this could have clearly been made neater. (By perhaps stacking on 00:13:835 (7) - and fixing what comes before and after the new placement)
00:16:272 (1) - Attempt to make blankets more often - you can make it around 00:16:085 (7) - .
00:18:522 (2,3,4,5) - This parallelogram could be made much easier in terms of opposite congruent sides
00:18:522 (2) - Make an attempt to make everything neater by stacking this on 00:17:772 (6) - and 00:18:710 (3) - on the head of 00:17:960 (1) - . Of course, fix corresponding note placement.
00:19:272 (1) - You can move this somewhere so that it's direction points to the past circle 00:19:085 (5) - .
00:22:272 (5) - Applies to what I said earlier about curvy sliders.
00:23:585 (9) - Unpleasant placement - I'm curious to why you would follow DS at this point, even after it makes such an ugly overlap between (9) and 00:23:397 (8) - .
00:25:647 (7) - AH STACK THIS ON 00:24:897 (4) - YOU WERE SO CLOSE
00:26:585 (2,3,4) - This placement with the curvy slider is PERFECT!
00:27:522 (5) - Blanket from 00:26:960 (4) - .
00:25:835 (8,1) - Try to put some purpose into placing new notes like these, they seem okay to play but in terms of how they look, it's very strange.
00:28:272 (8) - Earlier about curvy sliders.

I'm not going to mod anymore of this. It'll take too long

Too bad I write too much for every suggestion ;w;
Hopefully you can apply this to the rest of your difficulty, as the problems seem to appear often.
Your rhythm is great, placement is okay, but the execution of the placement wasn't as okay.

Sorry if I sounded harsh, it's just that I don't like writing ":3" at the end of the sentence anymore ;w;
Pretty nice song and mapset, keep it up and good luck~!

Dejirum wrote:
Hello! Just a quick update on my map. I fixed:
[*Minor spacing and flow issues]

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extracted to be under max character count
Thank you and good luck ranking this

By the way, you should put all of that in a code box. Because

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brackets make formatting instead of displaying the code.

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dylansantosh

313 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

dylansantosh 2015-07-24T14:23:27+00:00

Insane (Not GD)
00:05:960 (1,2) - (1) points to a strange direction when (2) is placed where it is. Perhaps you can consider making the slider (1) point to the circle (2) so it plays less awkwardly.
00:07:272 (6) - Adjust this slider so it creates a neat linear path from 00:07:085 (5) - . At its current state, player is required to move their cursor up a bit. This is a picky suggestion that is only to improve the quality!
00:07:835 (7) - What makes you place this circle on the outside of the slider that is curled in on the opposite direction? Perhaps you could move this circle to a logical area. This is my preference.
00:08:960 (4) - You can see this slider overlap 00:09:710 (1) - . You can move these to different positions that keep the same flow.
00:10:272 (2) - Overlaps 00:09:710 (1) - . (^)
00:10:835 (3) - As for visuals, this slider isn't fitting. 1.The curl makes a little attempt to fit in by creating a blanket to an invisible circle below the tail of 00:10:272 (2) - . 2. Straighten it out. To me and many others, sliders curled to such a position looks unappealing. 3. The end of this slider points to the head of 00:10:272 (2) - (not really). It gives the player little to no comfort in moving to the next slider(s) ~ 00:11:210 (4) - .
00:11:585 (6) - ^ (this slider applies to some extent of the aspects of the slider I just previously mentioned)
00:13:085 (5) - When making a jump that partially traces back steps, try not to place it to the position of 00:12:710 (3) - . At least try to put some effort into making the editor look neater, because even though the gameplay might be fine now, it'll be much better if the editor looked neater.
00:12:710 (3) - This slider is a bit more fine, but TRY not to make it so curly, and put some emphasis into making the slider lead to the circle 00:13:835 (7) -
.
00:14:585 (2) - Although gameplay may not seem to change that much, fixing this will definitely make the editor much neater : You can more efficiently make a blanket with 00:14:960 (4) - around it.
00:14:772 (3) - Come on, this could have clearly been made neater. (By perhaps stacking on 00:13:835 (7) - and fixing what comes before and after the new placement)
00:16:272 (1) - Attempt to make blankets more often - you can make it around 00:16:085 (7) - .
00:18:522 (2,3,4,5) - This parallelogram could be made much easier in terms of opposite congruent sides
00:18:522 (2) - Make an attempt to make everything neater by stacking this on 00:17:772 (6) - and 00:18:710 (3) - on the head of 00:17:960 (1) - . Of course, fix corresponding note placement.
00:19:272 (1) - You can move this somewhere so that it's direction points to the past circle 00:19:085 (5) - .
00:22:272 (5) - Applies to what I said earlier about curvy sliders.
00:23:585 (9) - Unpleasant placement - I'm curious to why you would follow DS at this point, even after it makes such an ugly overlap between (9) and 00:23:397 (8) - .
00:25:647 (7) - AH STACK THIS ON 00:24:897 (4) - YOU WERE SO CLOSE
00:26:585 (2,3,4) - This placement with the curvy slider is PERFECT!
00:27:522 (5) - Blanket from 00:26:960 (4) - .
00:25:835 (8,1) - Try to put some purpose into placing new notes like these, they seem okay to play but in terms of how they look, it's very strange.
00:28:272 (8) - Earlier about curvy sliders.

I'm not going to mod anymore of this. It'll take too long

Too bad I write too much for every suggestion ;w;
Hopefully you can apply this to the rest of your difficulty, as the problems seem to appear often.
Your rhythm is great, placement is okay, but the execution of the placement wasn't as okay.

Sorry if I sounded harsh, it's just that I don't like writing ":3" at the end of the sentence anymore ;w;
Pretty nice song and mapset, keep it up and good luck~!

Dejirum wrote:
Hello! Just a quick update on my map. I fixed:
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extracted to be under max character count
Thank you and good luck ranking this

By the way, you should put all of that in a code box. Because

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brackets make formatting instead of displaying the code.

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Thanks alot, this gave me a whole new look at mapping, I'll try to apply it to the whole map.

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dylansantosh

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dylansantosh 2015-07-25T11:06:06+00:00

Oops see next post

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dylansantosh

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dylansantosh 2015-07-25T11:08:26+00:00

DylanSan wrote:
Exa wrote:
Modding done:

I'm Re-mapping Normal as a new difficulty Jurhards normal might be removed.

[Hard]

00:07:085 - Don't skip.
00:08:960 (3,4) - They touch. They should not.
00:08:960 (3,5) - Bad overlap.
00:11:397 (2,1) - Are you trying to blanket?
00:12:522 (2,5) - Bad overlap.
00:14:960 (3,4) - The transition looks bad. The slider tail of (3) has no relation to the head of (4) in terms of flow.
00:16:835 - The beat is here!! Why do you miss beats like that?!
00:17:960 (2,3) - Imperfect blanket.
00:18:897 (4,1) - Imperfect blanket.
00:21:522 - Don't skip that.
00:24:335 - Don't skip that.
01:02:960 (1,2) - Why do you have to make them touch...
01:05:960 - Map that.
01:17:960 (1,2) - Asymmetrical.
01:23:772 - End it here. Make sure you re-position it accordingly.
01:25:647 - Don't skip.
01:24:897 (3,5) - Bad overlap.
01:26:960 (1,4) - bad overlap.
01:29:397 - Don't skip.
01:32:585 (7,2) - Bad overlap.
01:34:647 - Even though you tried to emphasize that beat, you ruined it when you actually emphasized the blue tick before it.
01:35:210 (6,1) - They touch, they could not.
01:37:085 (4,5) - They touch, they should not.
01:37:647 (5,6,1) - Bad overlaps.
01:38:772 (1,4) - Bad overlap.
01:43:085 (5,1) - Bad overlap.
01:45:522 - Don't skip.
01:46:647 - You failed to emphasize this because the sliderbal doesn't turn on this tick. Use a hitobject to emphasize beats. It works best.
01:48:522 - Don't skip.
01:50:960 - Don't skip!!
02:17:210 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Boring to play. The player just keeps his cursor steady most of the time and maybe jumps a bit. Remap this part and use flow.
02:44:772 - Noticeable audio sample here. Don't skip.
02:44:960 (1,2,4) - Bad overlaps.
02:46:647 - Don't skip.
02:50:960 (1,3) - Your mapping style contains a lot of overlaps in general. At least make them symmetrical.
02:52:647 (4,1) - Asymmetrical.
02:54:522 - Don't skip.
03:00:710 (3,5) - Bad overlap.
03:07:085 - Why did you stop the slider before that? There is a clear beat here and you can easily hear it!
03:09:522 (3) - Use a slider here. This audio sample is of duration.

I re-mapped all of hard so i tried applying as much as i could but forgot to keep traqck of what i did add and what not.

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