1. Easy (1.3 stars, 72 notes)
2. Hard (2.89 stars, 202 notes)
3. Hyasa's Normal (1.71 stars, 124 notes)
4. Suisei (3.41 stars, 259 notes)
5. Zzz's Hard (2.37 stars, 152 notes)

Adol Christin wrote:

1st post~ 如果是full ver就好了

salinqi wrote:

Hi~M4M

[Zzz's Hard]
Have a try on using more curved sliders it looks somewhat monotonous now,making the whole trend of the map like turning circles,especially in kiai part
00:53:324 (2,3,4) - imo ds should be kept the same here ( no. Jump :3 )
01:25:343 (2) - move it to 01:25:401 - ( Fix~ )

SLMmix wrote:

Hi~ from your m4m. ( oooooooooooooo! korean!! )

[b]Zzz's hard

- 01:25:632 (1) - 스피너 01:27:709 여기서 끝나야 할것 같아요 spinner ends here ( ok~ )

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salinqi wrote:

Hi~M4M 你好 我们又见面了……泥嚎砂砾

[Easy]
做得这么好怎么摸

[Hard]
00:19:170 (4) - ds? fixed
00:26:786 (1,3) - stack? intentional
00:30:016 (5) - Ctrl+G nope,It jumps big...
00:33:016 (4) - move it away to make a small jump here well,but it will ruin the structure of triangle,mine is fine
00:42:247 (2,4) - stack? already stacked
00:43:401 (1,3) - stack? intentional,or the spacing will become smaller
00:48:940 (1,2,3,1) - make a diamond sure
01:05:093 (3,4) - stack? intentional
01:06:016 (2,3) - Ctrl+G jumps big
01:10:632 (3,4) - Ctrl+G jumps big
01:25:632 (4) - imo it should be put somewhere like（152.68）to show its tune going high nope that jumps too big this is a hard diff
00:48:709 (6) - ds inconsistency? visual ds is equal

[Suisei]
00:03:709 (4,5) - flow not that good that's good for me
00:12:247 (2,4) - stack?
00:32:555 (1) - delete NC sure
00:41:555 (1,1) - stack?
00:43:170 (2) - ds inconsistency that depends on flow angle,plz not be so stubborn on ds owo
00:48:478 (2,3) - if you make them parallel to each other,it would be much neater I don't think so flow will be weird
01:04:170 (2,3) - ds fine for me
01:12:478 (7,1) - blanket fixed
01:24:709 (3) - move it a bit lower to avoid overlapping overlapping for enlarging space
01:24:940 (4,5,6) - make it an isosceles triangle QwQ and imo the jump can be bigger Good



Melodious song(｡･ω･)ﾉﾞBest wishes!

SLMmix wrote:

Hi~ from your m4m.
All of these are just my suggestion, so I don't mind if you ignore it.




Easy

- 00:41:555 (1) - Change like this

IMG

GREAT~THX
- 01:17:786 (1) - How about moving to 01:18:247 ? (I think a spinner right after a circle isn't good for Easy diff.)Well,you are right~I remove the circle 4 instead and make the spinner earlier.that's good~


Hard

- 00:26:324 (3) - move to x 376 y 124 jumps big
- 00:30:478 (1,2) - separate? antijump
- 00:33:247 (5,1) - stack intentional for enlarging space
- 00:59:555 (5) - move to x 151 y 166 I know your intention but I think mine is fine
- 00:59:786 (1,1) - stack^
- 01:06:478 (4,5) - Just suggestion, move to x 388 y 252 to look like this

IMG

no thanks that's quite close imo
- 01:07:401 (1,2) - could make better blanket well,I don't care this nazi blanket,kinda hard to adjust imo
- 01:09:247 (1,2) - ^ Same
- 00:48:478 - ~ 01:20:209 - I think this part should be harder than now since you're warning something like 'This is getting harder!!' 00:45:247 (1,2,1,2,1) - here Very interesting,these patterns is just to express fade in bass sound.I think current one is already hard enough or it 'll be harder than main diff




Suisei

- Isn't AR 8.5 too fast to this relaxing song? I think AR 8 should do.8.5 for some big jumps
- 00:19:170 (8) - Just suggestion, how about stacking with 00:19:401 (1) ? no thanks
- 00:29:786 (6) - stack with 00:29:093 (3) - no thanks
- 00:32:324 (1,1) - Just suggestion, how about this? Great!

IMG

- 00:34:170 (1) - Make this more curvyno thanks,it will ruin the structure here

IMG

- 00:48:709 (3) - Rotate 3 degrees (anti-clockwise)
sure,good
That's all! GL!

salinqi wrote:

[Hyasa's Normal]
也很好，就是感觉前面note密度太大了，比kiai还大，可以删掉一些红线上的note 有些是为了增加star加的;w;
00:44:786 (1,2,3) - 为什么音量不用等差数列QwQ感觉3突然声音好大啊 改成等差了
00:52:401 (2) - 歌挺软的多用用软软的弧形滑条 嘛，下次会注意的w
Melodious song(｡･ω･)ﾉﾞBest wishes!

SLMmix wrote:

Hyasa's Normal
- 00:28:632 (4,5) - Add whistle (like 00:13:863 (4,5) ) fixed
- 01:03:709 (1) - Just suggestion, Rotate 20 degrees(Anti-clockwise) and move to x 108 y 176 ? no change
That's all! GL!

Peachtrees wrote:

M4M for your Q!

Easy

00:18:478 (3,1) - should probably tidy up the DS between those a bit (1.15 intead of 1.2) maybe,but blanket here makes it hard.I think it's fine

00:22:632 (4,1) - obligatory nazi blanket OK

00:34:170 (1) - try a curve like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3063204? didnt take the time to make it 100% symmetrical, though I think this type of curve looks a tad bit smoother Good！

00:41:555 (1) - these don't really look that neat and I feel like the flow is eeeh not bad but ... I guess meh would describe it ok,Make some adjustments but I think there is a gap between these two sliders beginners should catch it in time

01:01:632 (3) - kinda touched on this curve thing earlier, but I feel as though this just looks very jagged and not smooth at all :cwhat are you taking about?I think this fits the rhythm well:c

01:22:170 (2,3) - tidy up the spacing a bit?intentional for a better flow


Hard

00:00:940 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - why not go for even spacing here? having the spacing decrease for the second pattern for no reason seems..meh >< Intentional,cuz music fade out and become quiet here

00:12:247 (2) - perhaps try de-curving this a little to match the following sliders? mine is fine

00:17:555 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - tidy up the spacing a bit? Hard doesn't need constant DS, I know, but stuff like this just feels kinda messy
Messy?I don't think so when I cancel distance snap,there maybe two reasons:First,for equal visual distance,sometimes it is hard to keep same with ds and visual ds.in hard and ins diff visual distance is which I consider it more important.Second,I change ds to express the various changes in music,here music fade in and become intense.So no change here
00:20:324 (3) - placing it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3063294 would've felt so much nicer have you consider 00:20:786 (4) - ?also,mine is fine

00:26:324 (3,4,1) - uneven spacing looks a bit messy ok 1.4

00:34:170 (1,2) - sloppy blanket >< well,I don't care this blanket,as long as flow well is enough

00:41:093 (3,4,1) - feels a bit too spaced out when previous patterns had spacing that was a lot smaller you are right,a little further indeed.But I think music becomes kinda intense and I use a small jump to express it

00:53:324 (2,1) - symmetry is off by quite a bit between these That's fine or the flow will be hard

Suisei

00:02:093 (3,1) - transition between these two feels a bit weird Plz give me your reason instead of saying weird?I can tell you that piano key fade out here so I make it closer

00:11:555 (4,5,1,2) - spacing seems uuh kinda random? This is my ds change with the different situation in music.It plays fine here...

00:13:863 (1,2,3,4) - why make these jumpy and the rest of the pattern close together? I don't feel like these are particularly strong to justify such a huge change in difficulty plz don't be one-sided...Listen to the music 00:14:555 (4) - is the highest tone vocal and then it decrease gradually and become quiet.There's no doubt that I want to add variety in music not to jump all the time...why not doubt 00:29:555 (5,6,7,8) - ？It become closer,too.

00:26:555 (6,1) - could probably use a little jump here, 1 feels very strong jump? Jump？It seems that you miss the long vowel here,doesn't it？

00:30:247 (8,1) - placing 1 like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3063326 feels a lot nicer ;w;mine is fine what are you going to do with 00:31:170 (2) - if use this?

00:38:555 (2) - de-curve this a little to match the long 1/1 slider? nothing effect but I move down a bit

00:48:363 (1,2,3,1) - should probably have consistent spacing between 1/4s well since judge of the slider tail is loose there‘s no need to be screw in ds.Visual distance is more important than ds here as well as it plays smooth is enough

01:02:786 (6,7,8,9) - ^^

01:13:863 (4,5) - try putting some more distance in between those?
OKay,stack on 01:16:170 (2) -
Thx for modding

Stealthwave wrote:

I'm looking for M4M modding so here comes my modding(even though I don't know what M4M means):

[Zzz's Hard]:
• 00:46:170 (3) and 00:54:247 (4) - You might consider move closer according to distance snap. ( Jump :3 )
• 01:25:401 (2) - Instead of having a single hit-circle you could try having a slider from here 01:24:940 to here 01:25:401. I you don't like that you could have a smaller slider from 01:24:940 to 01:25:170 and still use 01:25:401 (2).( no problom :3 )

Peachtrees wrote:

M4M for your Q!

Zzz's Hard

00:01:632 (2) - hmm just being curious about these curves, since they do not look super awesome or anything so I'm wondering why you went out of your way to use 4 points for a simple curve. just my two cents though, it certainly does make the map look special in a way

00:52:170 (7,1) - could perhaps try getting some distance in between those to be more consistent with the jump you used at 00:54:016 (3,4) - or well I guess you could also try getting rid of that since this is the only time you've used a 'jump' like this. though i feel like adding a few mild and easy to hit jumps wouldn't hurt

Not much to say about this Diff. Very clean and simple, perhaps try spicing it up a liiiitle bit?

suanriz wrote:

你好OuO/!

[Zzz's Hard]
00:06:478 (5) - No reentry.white line add Note
00:07:863 (7) - Del
00:07:170 (6) - reentry
00:26:324 (9) - Del
00:25:632 - 00:26:324 using words to make pauses in sentences will be smooth.It fits the drumbeat too

00:27:940 - 00:29:324^

00:35:866 - 00:37:401 Try?

00:39:016 -add Note
00:41:093 (5) - Del
00:40:863 - 00:41:093 add slider
00:42:940 (3) - Del
00:42:709 - 00:42:940 add slider

Chaoslitz wrote:

[Easy]

1. 00:13:401 (2) - Reverse slider here sounds not really good, I think you can start a slider in downbeat 00:13:863 to emphasis more
   I know what you mean but reverse slider is suitable for simplify the rhythm in easy diff
2. 00:42:940 00:44:786 Add note in this two time since it feels empty, also you added note in 00:35:555 (2,4) for the similar part Intentional,cuz vocal here is different from previous one,it becomes more harmonious so I add a small break to express it,I think it's fine
3. 00:58:170 (3) - You end the slider pointing to the lefty, but you place the following slider on the right hand side, this flow is not suggested in Easy diff, use a normal curved slider is fine Ok,this is easy to explain.In order to prevent the polarity problem(from white tick to red click) using this kind of flow can prevent player rush to tempo also this can warn player next note is an important downbeat,maybe kinda hard for beginner though,I think it's ok
   
   eg

   
4. 01:07:401 (1,2) - nazi, but it looks weird Well,I think this slider is suitable for the vocal,isn't it?

[Hard]

1. 00:29:324 (2,4,1) - nazi, just overlapped a bit you mean 00:29:324 (2,4) - ? that's intentional for locate position..
2. 00:52:170 (5,1) - A sharp turn here breaks the flow, may consider to fix it I think it's fine
3. 01:15:478 (1) - Ctrl+g? Because the current flow is weird and I think rhythm here can be emphasis more with jumps No thanks,I don't like move in circles,that's kinda boring...

[Suisei]

1. 00:40:401 (2,3,4) - Triplet here sounds overmapped, however using triplet in 00:41:324 (6,1) will be good as you did same thing in 00:37:632 (3,4,1) which map triplet around downbeat You are right,may consider to make some adjustments here

Good Luck~

Asfano wrote:

Ticket request

[General]

1. Really high quality mapset!
2. Zzz's Hard might be easier than Hyasa's Normal, maybe rename Zzz's Hard to Zzz's Normal and change AR/OD/HP

[Easy]

1. 00:54:478 (2,1) - blanket fix fixed

[Hard]

1. 00:21:247 (1,2) - blanket fix
2. 00:34:170 (1,2) - ^
3. 00:36:016 (1,2) - ^
4. 00:37:401 (3,1) - ^all fixed
5. 01:25:632 (4) - how about moving this up so that it forms a triangle with 01:24:709 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/hJvh6/b0050fbb1a.jpg Good~

[Suisei]

1. http://puu.sh/hJvrD/bb38c5e667.osr sightread testplay
2. I had trouble reading this part in particular 00:45:016 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe make the sliders the same shape so that they don't end up stacking on top of eachother on the slider head and slider ends will consider,but I think it's fine if you don't play with dt
3. 00:59:786 (1,2) - blanket fix fixed

clp012345 wrote:

Newbie modding QAQ
M4M
[Suisei]
00:05:093 (3) - A bit unreadable
00:14:093 (2) - ^ I think it's fine
00:18:478 (5,6,7) - I think this three notes should spread out according to rhythm but idk QAQ no problem
00:25:632 (4) - maybe you'd want to change the shape of this one by a bit. for fitting vocal
00:45:247 (2,2,2) - I think the positions of three sliders can differ by (like sereval pixels?) to
make it more playable but personal opinion You are right,these patterns should be improved for me,too
00:52:401 (6,6) - I would suggest NC here instead as the high sound initializes here fine as it is

[Hard]
00:29:324 (2) - I don't prefer overlaps with sliders in hard QAQ
00:41:093 (3,4,1) - - maybe make this three notes closer

[Normal or below]
Sorry I dunno how to mod them > <

QAQ 新手mod見笑啦 祝好運

Suisei