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 Rhythm Incarnate 1,915 posts    |
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I might be overcautious, but this definitely sets off my danger alarms. I don't see this raising the quality of feature requests that much, but at the same time I don't see it lowering it either and I understand that that's only half the point. The main thing is that it really feels like commercialism and while I'm not necessarily seeing a "slippery slope" thing here, at the same time I feel like a lot of other people will (especially new people checking out this osu! thing) and that it will turn them off of osu! I already know a few people who stopped playing osu! over the subscription thing, even though it's really mild and pretty necessary; I have a feeling this will be a lot worse... if they find out about it, that is (they might not if they don't join the community). I also feel it might really have a poisonous effect on the community in the form of envy, but I'm not sure.
I guess what I'm saying is that while I don't have a certain feeling that this is a bad idea, there are too many warning bells going off in my head for me to not say anything, if you understand what I'm trying to say. |
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Yoshi348 wrote: ...at the same time I feel like a lot of other people will (especially new people checking out this osu! thing) and that it will turn them off of osu! Most "new people" checking out osu! will not visit the Feature Requests board instantly to post new requests, in my eyes. This would also, like subscription, not be forced nor advertised. Yoshi348 wrote: I already know a few people who stopped playing osu! over the subscription thing Why would you even do this? I don't even see the logic behind it. To be honest, if someone stops playing a free game because they find out... it is actually free because some people choose to help keep it running (?) then I don't actually want them here in the first place due to their brains not seeming to be switched on. Yoshi348 wrote: I guess what I'm saying is that while I don't have a certain feeling that this is a bad idea, there are too many warning bells going off in my head for me to not say anything, if you understand what I'm trying to say. I really don't. noxie wrote: Make sure the site and game and everything won't run on the income of this... I've been on a site that failed now because they were running on donations and such and went way over budget with plans, This is what i never wanna see to happen with osu! Consider that osu! has been up to $3,000 in negative at the worst point in time which comes from my pocket, and I never even mentioned this until right now, I don't think you should have a concern for any kind of financial collapse. Leave the worrying to me unless I start telling you to worry  .noxie wrote: I highly disagree with this because teenagers could prioritize the wrong thing and use all of his/her money on osu! and spam everything. A pattern like this would be obvious to stop before it got out of hand. That said, kids with access to amounts of money that would cause such a problem should not have access in the first place. ie. their parents should probably be showing more care. Guy-kun wrote: I'm half-hearted about this, I still think that allowing people to sponsor something is commercialising the game and making the players with a great deal of money to spend 'those in control' and the rest of the community will go almost unheard. See this is not the angle I'm coming from. If you missed awp's last post: awp wrote: I don't understand what all the worry is over. People aren't going to throw money at a feature unless they genuinely think it's quality. This isn't just some selfish, freebie want (such as starring a map). It is literally an investment. People will sponsor other people's features. There may even be a condition invoked that limits how much you can sponsor your own features, or something similar. And remember this: I deny over 50% of features as being useless. If I don't see a feature benefitting the game and the community at a whole, it will not get consideration. This is merely an effort to prioritise the features which WILL be affecting and benefitting everyone that plays osu!. (No I am not trying to get you guys that are against this to change your mind, just presenting my rationale for putting forward the idea) --- Also you can say all your want about commercialism, but if osu! is going to go any further than what it is now (which is definitely something I have interest in -- it would be stupid not to with a time investment of approaching 10,000hours on my part) having more funds available is clearly a benefit. Relying on donations is something I would never dream of, but it all helps in the scheme of things. |
 Rhythm Incarnate 1,132 posts |
I don't see why this would do any harm at all. If people waste money on crap that doesn't need to be added or should have low priority, then it's their own fault, it won't harm how osu! progresses.
If this does happen I would probably sponsor some requests that I really want, or maybe even need. (If say it's an addition to the editor) And I wouldn't care much the price as I know it won't be wasted, it will be used help keep the game running and free, as it is now. Warning: I take mod requests in the #mod channels and only there. DO NOT forum PM or chat PM or you will go on my personal blacklist. This excludes people who I respect for one reason or another. I have left the MAT as I feel as though I wasn't doing anything to justify being there. |
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peppy wrote: And remember this: I deny over 50% of features as being useless. If I don't see a feature benefitting the game and the community at a whole, it will not get consideration. This is merely an effort to prioritise the features which WILL be affecting and benefitting everyone that plays osu!. I see this as an unnecessary extra step which would only serve to introduce bias. When real money is involved, people will think twice before sponsoring crap. A suspected useless feature might just turn out to be hugely popular, and it deserves the opportunity to be heard. Of course, denial would be fair if the burden of implementation is too harsh and it only receives little support. Gameplay, cosmetic, remark, badly applied mods, ranking guidelines.
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MetalMario201 wrote: When real money is involved, people will think twice before sponsoring crap. A suspected useless feature might just turn out to be hugely popular, and it deserves the opportunity to be heard. Of course, denial would be fair if the burden of implementation is too harsh and it only receives little support. Think of it more as "denial before it gets popular". No matter how much support there is, some features which I am strongly against (you probably know a few, but there aren't that many) will not be implemented. And I mean not unless someone murdered me and stole my identity and code. |
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peppy wrote: noxie wrote: Make sure the site and game and everything won't run on the income of this... I've been on a site that failed now because they were running on donations and such and went way over budget with plans, This is what i never wanna see to happen with osu! Consider that osu! has been up to $3,000 in negative at the worst point in time which comes from my pocket, and I never even mentioned this until right now, I don't think you should have a concern for any kind of financial collapse. Leave the worrying to me unless I start telling you to worry .noxie wrote: I highly disagree with this because teenagers could prioritize the wrong thing and use all of his/her money on osu! and spam everything. A pattern like this would be obvious to stop before it got out of hand. That said, kids with access to amounts of money that would cause such a problem should not have access in the first place. ie. their parents should probably be showing more care. After reading these answers i'm for 110% supporting this!  ''An economist is a man who states the obvious in terms of the incomprehensible'' Link where our music is at! |
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