21:19 Kinshara: .-.
21:19 Kinshara: oh right
21:19 Kinshara: i am suppose to play the hard diff
21:19 jonathanlfj: oh yeah
21:20 jonathanlfj: i just saw you playing stuff so im like ok spec
21:20 Kinshara: lOl wtf
21:20 Kinshara: don't spec me
21:20 Kinshara: i suck ;w;
21:20 Kinshara: waste of your precious time
21:20 jonathanlfj: reminds me of the old days
21:21 Kinshara: what was that
21:21 Kinshara: omfg
21:22 jonathanlfj: geez the 1/4 retard rhythms
21:26 Kinshara: holy fckng shit
21:26 Kinshara: time for irc mod
21:26 Kinshara: omg
21:27 Kinshara: the amount of 3/4 and 1/4 rhythms makes this an insane basically orz
21:27 jonathanlfj: lolol
21:27 jonathanlfj: well if you look at Normal...
21:27 jonathanlfj: this is pretty standard for spread purposes xD
21:27 Kinshara: .-.
21:27 Kinshara: well i mean
21:27 Kinshara: fun hard
21:27 Kinshara: just some parts
21:27 Kinshara: were hard to read
21:28 Kinshara: tbh i could have gotten a better score if i didn't have a mouse that likes to spaz
21:28 jonathanlfj: add DT problem solved
21:28 Kinshara: LOL
21:28 jonathanlfj: its *hard* to read because i didnt use AR8
21:28 jonathanlfj: and there is a reason why i didnt use AR8
21:28 Kinshara: what
21:28 Kinshara: use ar 8 omg
21:28 jonathanlfj: no
21:29 jonathanlfj: this is AR7.5 btw
21:29 Kinshara: 00:30:452 (3,4) - this will trip up players
21:29 Kinshara: yea i saw
21:29 jonathanlfj: actually that part is more leniant than you think
21:29 Kinshara: i mean
21:30 jonathanlfj: the rhythm yeah
21:30 jonathanlfj: but there is not much i can do there
21:30 Kinshara: i would keep it consistent with 00:25:244 (2,3) -
21:30 jonathanlfj: maybe a 1/2 slider if i need to change it
21:30 Kinshara: same type of rhythm :c
21:30 jonathanlfj: actually
21:30 jonathanlfj: if you listen at 25%
21:30 jonathanlfj: they are different
21:30 jonathanlfj: which was the trouble i faced when mapping Extra as well
21:30 jonathanlfj: 04:19:027 (2,3) -
21:31 jonathanlfj: 04:24:001 (2,3) -
21:31 jonathanlfj: same thing happened here
21:31 Kinshara: oh
21:31 Kinshara: but overall
21:31 jonathanlfj: an extra beat got in there on the second pattern which completely changed the emphasisi
21:31 jonathanlfj: i blame composer
21:31 Kinshara: i really would like you to reduce the 1/4 rhythm cuz of the bpm
21:31 Kinshara: and lol yea
21:31 Kinshara: i see what you're saying
21:32 jonathanlfj: i will definitely ask around
21:32 jonathanlfj: if everyone says to change it i will change it
21:32 Kinshara: 00:42:809 (2,3,4,5) -
21:32 Kinshara: reasons for breaking flow here? o.o
21:32 jonathanlfj: its a gimmic pattern
21:32 jonathanlfj: 00:45:607 (3,4,5,6) -
21:32 jonathanlfj: 02:00:218 (3,4,5,6) -
21:33 jonathanlfj: 02:02:706 (3,4,5) -
21:33 Kinshara: yea i know you did a lot lol
21:33 Kinshara: just i mean
21:33 Kinshara: i wish you'd keep it straight forward :c
21:33 jonathanlfj: i think i will raise the AR to 7.8
21:34 jonathanlfj: it solves a lot of the problems you are having with reading
21:34 Kinshara: i don't know
21:34 Kinshara: maybe
21:34 jonathanlfj: but as someone comming from the older generation i feel really sad that hards these days are filled with AR8
21:34 Kinshara: 01:22:680 (3,4) - at least change this
21:34 Kinshara: D:
21:34 Kinshara: this was very confusing imo
21:34 jonathanlfj: yeah that one is probably gonna go
21:35 jonathanlfj: i realize this is an insane-level gimmic
21:35 Kinshara: the overlap is hard to read
21:35 Kinshara: yup
21:35 Kinshara: omg this hard is so beautiful though D:
21:35 jonathanlfj: distance snap
21:35 jonathanlfj: 00:30:452 (3) - i will think about if there is a better option here
21:36 Kinshara: okay cool
21:36 Kinshara: 02:18:871 (7) -
21:36 Kinshara: also this slider
21:37 Kinshara: little too convoluted for a hard diff
21:38 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/dwz6G.jpg21:39 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/dwz99.jpg21:39 Kinshara: oh that might work
21:39 jonathanlfj: think these are better
21:39 Kinshara: yea better
21:40 Kinshara: 02:34:260 (1,2) -
21:40 Kinshara: for these
21:40 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/dwzfB.jpg21:40 Kinshara:
http://puu.sh/dwzfF/d642ae2525.jpg21:40 Kinshara: much better like this im
21:41 Kinshara: *imo
21:41 Kinshara: and i like that a lot :O
21:41 Kinshara: 02:40:944 (5) - open up this slider a bit?
21:41 jonathanlfj: geez thats gonna require some repositioning
21:42 Kinshara: and yea cuz like it covers up the track too much
21:42 Kinshara: imo
21:42 Kinshara: 02:50:892 (5) - same here?
21:43 Kinshara: 02:56:799 - this part is really good xD
21:44 Kinshara: 03:43:586 (9,1) - hmmm not sure about this slider
21:44 jonathanlfj: opened them up so the start and end are not touching each other
21:44 Kinshara: breaks flow a little too much :c
21:44 Kinshara: yey
21:45 jonathanlfj: wait but thats a circular flow
21:45 jonathanlfj: i intentionally overlapped them to avoid partial overlaps
21:45 Kinshara: yea i can see the circular
21:45 Kinshara: hard to explain
21:45 jonathanlfj: i know what you mean
21:45 Kinshara: but i guess it's not too bad lol
21:45 jonathanlfj: but i think the average hard player today wont be likely to misread this
21:45 Kinshara: yea you're probably right
21:46 jonathanlfj: how do you like my w sliders
21:46 jonathanlfj: they wiggle according to the 1/4 rhythm
21:46 Kinshara: yeee
21:46 Kinshara: loved them xD
21:46 Kinshara: that's why i didn't say anything lmao
21:46 jonathanlfj: i tried using different sliders to cover that part in each kiai
21:46 Kinshara: 04:08:457 (9) -
21:46 jonathanlfj: i just left the best for last
21:47 Kinshara: this jump might be a bit too big :<
21:47 Kinshara: considering the bpm as well
21:47 jonathanlfj: lowerd to 1/9x
21:47 jonathanlfj: 1.9x*
21:47 Kinshara: 04:14:519 (3,4,5,6) - square patterns too hard, could you maybe try something else?
21:48 jonathanlfj: hmm let me think
21:48 jonathanlfj: its the last kiai so i wanted more impact
21:49 Kinshara: yea but too many circles in succession are hard
21:49 Kinshara: especially since this is a hard diff
21:49 jonathanlfj: when i played this on DT i just spammed my way through it lol
21:49 Kinshara: cuz you're a pro player
21:49 Kinshara: omg
21:49 Kinshara: you gotta think like a noob
21:49 Kinshara: xD
21:50 Kinshara: 01:04:260 (5,6,7) - not a big fan of circles that backtrack
21:50 jonathanlfj: let me see
21:50 Kinshara: sort of hard to read
21:50 Kinshara: would be okay with sliders :<
21:50 Kinshara: okay~
21:51 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/dwzSJ.jpg21:51 jonathanlfj: replaced with a mini jump instead for the last 2 circles
21:51 jonathanlfj: 01:17:939 (3,4,5) - like this
21:51 Kinshara: ahh okay
21:51 Kinshara: yea that should play better
21:52 Kinshara: 01:29:441 (1,2,3) -
21:52 Kinshara: for this
21:52 Kinshara: can you just stack the circles
21:52 Kinshara: stack everything i mean xD
21:52 jonathanlfj: i originally didnt stack them because stack leniency makes them shoft towards the left which blocks the repeat
21:52 Kinshara: oh
21:53 jonathanlfj: i think this spacing is fine because i used it 3 times in the map xD
21:53 Kinshara: lel cool
21:53 jonathanlfj: if you look at Extra this exact pattern is the first fail spike in the map
21:54 Kinshara: ah okay
21:54 jonathanlfj: i think this is also the place in Normal where i put the mist circle density
21:54 jonathanlfj: basically the hardest spot in every diff lol
21:54 Kinshara: 02:09:856 (2) - ctrl+G this?
21:54 Kinshara: lol
21:54 jonathanlfj: that flow was intentional
21:55 jonathanlfj: 00:52:757 (2,3) -
21:55 Kinshara: okie
21:55 Kinshara: got it
21:55 jonathanlfj: im gonna kill the drain to 5.5 so you are more unlikely to fail
21:56 Kinshara: lol
21:56 Kinshara: i think 6 is fine
21:56 Kinshara: plus it will fit the spread
21:56 Kinshara: 02:26:799 (1) - ctrl+G for better flow?
21:57 jonathanlfj: actually since Extra is 6.5 i will put it at 5.5 so insane can be 6
21:57 Kinshara: oh
21:57 Kinshara: okay yea
21:57 Kinshara: that's reasonable
21:57 jonathanlfj: i see you are the linear club
21:57 Kinshara: i am the flow club!! ;A; desu
21:57 jonathanlfj: im the zig-zag fanboy but i guess variety is good
21:58 jonathanlfj: see there are two types of common flows in osu
21:58 jonathanlfj: linear
21:58 jonathanlfj: and angled
21:58 Kinshara: yeah
21:58 jonathanlfj: i've had bad experience with linear flow back in 2010 2011 so i came to hating it when mapping
21:58 Kinshara: oh lol
21:59 jonathanlfj: my first draft solution was rectangles which DOES NOT WORK
21:59 jonathanlfj: all evidency have been destroyed in the remapping process of my first map
21:59 jonathanlfj: then stars took over for a while
21:59 jonathanlfj: vidro moyou *cough*
21:59 Kinshara: LOL
21:59 jonathanlfj: and then i finalized it to triangle based pattern
22:00 Kinshara: 03:42:654 (5,6,7,8,9) - btw could you maybe diversify this a bit
22:00 Kinshara: this back and forth can be a bit annoying
22:01 jonathanlfj: i see what your worry is but with AR7.8 this is much easier to read
22:01 Kinshara: and painful slightly
22:02 Kinshara: one thing
22:02 Kinshara: just go over your diff
22:02 Kinshara: and fix the blankets
22:02 Kinshara: xD
22:02 Kinshara: lots of blankets were off
22:02 jonathanlfj: example?
22:02 Kinshara: 04:10:011 (4,5) -
22:02 jonathanlfj: i usually check my blankets but my OCD is not that overkill in that regard
22:02 Kinshara: yea lol
22:03 jonathanlfj: lol thats like 1 pixel
22:03 Kinshara: i mean it'd be better than seeing "fix blanket" in multiple mods
22:03 jonathanlfj: i actually like those mods
22:03 jonathanlfj: i used to do those mods when i started modding
22:03 Kinshara: LOL
22:03 jonathanlfj: so its a give and take process
22:03 Kinshara: haha yea i see what you mean
22:03 Kinshara: 03:26:643 (1,3) -
22:03 Kinshara: okay this could be better
22:03 Kinshara: you gotta a gree
22:04 Kinshara: or maybe i am blind
22:04 Kinshara: but w/e lol
22:04 Kinshara: up to you ahhhh
22:04 Kinshara: 03:38:146 (2,3,4,5,1) - this pattern is so boss
22:05 jonathanlfj: haha thanks
22:05 Kinshara: 03:39:700 (3,4) - might consider overlapping a bit more or not overlapping at all?
22:05 jonathanlfj: and yeah that one kinda irked me a bit so i fixed it
22:05 Kinshara: just a nazi thing
22:06 jonathanlfj: yeah that one can be fixed
22:07 Kinshara: okay i think that's it
22:07 Kinshara: this diff is so good
22:07 Kinshara: omg
22:07 jonathanlfj: lol im gonna update it
22:07 Kinshara: okay cool
22:07 jonathanlfj: try it with AR7.8 and tell me what you think
22:07 Kinshara: awesome
22:07 Kinshara: sure
22:08 Kinshara: also what about adding a silent sliderslide
22:08 Kinshara: for the calm parts
22:09 jonathanlfj: its barely audible on my end
22:09 Kinshara: really?
22:09 jonathanlfj: the background noise for this song is pretty loud in itself
22:09 Kinshara: i could hear it lol
22:09 Kinshara: oh well
22:09 jonathanlfj: i can hear it but i think it blends well
22:09 jonathanlfj: will see what some others think
22:09 Kinshara: alright if it;s fine with you :p
22:10 jonathanlfj: anyways i updated it
22:14 Kinshara: O:
22:14 Kinshara: much better
22:14 Kinshara: enjoyed it
22:14 jonathanlfj: pro
22:14 jonathanlfj: im gonna try DT this xD
22:14 Kinshara: this is something i can FC
22:14 Kinshara: wow
22:14 Kinshara: don't mock me ;w;
22:14 Kinshara: i am already insecure D:
22:15 jonathanlfj: xD
22:18 Kinshara: damn next hvick ryt hur
22:18 jonathanlfj: lol last kiai so op on DT
22:18 jonathanlfj: rip A
22:18 Kinshara: lmao
22:18 jonathanlfj: funny thing is i can get like 97% on Extra and its much harder by star rating
22:19 Kinshara: oh
22:19 Kinshara: that is funny xD
22:19 Kinshara: btw want me to irc mod your easy/ normal?
22:19 Kinshara: since i am apprently not in the mood to study for finals orz
22:19 jonathanlfj: if you want
22:19 jonathanlfj: free kd
22:19 Kinshara: lmao
22:19 jonathanlfj: im gonna start tommorow xD
22:19 jonathanlfj: last one on thursday
22:19 Kinshara: i have one tomorrow
22:19 Kinshara: and 2 on wednesday
22:19 Kinshara: halp
22:20 jonathanlfj: dude go study
22:20 jonathanlfj: forget modding
22:20 Kinshara: lmao
22:20 jonathanlfj: you have time for that later
22:20 Kinshara: yea i should
22:20 Kinshara: omg
22:20 Kinshara: thanks for knocking some sense into me
22:20 jonathanlfj: yeah go study
22:20 Kinshara: i'll just have osu open for the music i guess hue hue
22:20 jonathanlfj: post the log on the thread btw
22:21 Kinshara: lmao
22:21 jonathanlfj: you can have the other diffs later
22:21 Kinshara: SP yaaa
22:21 Kinshara: okay