Credits to Yuzu- for Attack of the Genres name
11 Stars - captin1
10 Stars - jonathanlfj
8 Stars - Trust
5 Stars - apaffy, Kihhou, LunarSakuya & Raose
2 Stars - gokugohan12468, Moo-Chan, Natsu, Okoratu
GENRE WAR
~ May 20 - May 27
~ May 27 - August 8
|| ~ August 8 - August 9
|| ~ August 9
~ August 10 Final

2014-05-20 19:42 captin1: http://puu.sh/8UA4i.wav
2014-05-20 19:42 captin1: you should use this at the start
2014-05-20 19:42 captin1:
2014-05-20 19:43 captin1: should be tuned to the right note, unless i'm tone deaf now
2014-05-20 20:08 Giralda: this is great <3
2014-05-20 20:16 captin1: w
2014-05-20 20:16 captin1: i think i wanted to pick at a couple things to at some point
2014-05-20 20:16 Giralda: It only really fits on one part though
2014-05-20 20:16 captin1: hm?
2014-05-20 20:17 Giralda: the hitsound you gave me
2014-05-20 20:17 Giralda: I think it's a little off xD
2014-05-20 20:17 captin1: hmmmm
2014-05-20 20:17 captin1: it's on c# at the moment
2014-05-20 20:17 captin1: sounded pretty on to me but i'll listen again
2014-05-20 20:18 Giralda: ok
2014-05-20 20:18 captin1: yeahhh i'm pretty sure it's c#
2014-05-20 20:19 captin1: it was meant to be all four of the finishes you have in the intro
2014-05-20 20:19 captin1:
2014-05-20 20:19 captin1: that's the note it's tuned to
2014-05-20 20:20 Giralda: oh hmm
2014-05-20 20:21 captin1: also 02:00:961 (1) -
2014-05-20 20:21 captin1: :<
2014-05-20 20:21 captin1: vocal is on the skipped white tick
2014-05-20 20:21 Giralda: ah!
2014-05-20 20:23 captin1: 01:28:795 (8) - skipping 1/4 stream?
2014-05-20 20:23 Giralda: fixed
2014-05-20 20:24 captin1: 01:43:961 (2) - missed whistle on head
2014-05-20 20:24 Giralda: oh I think I missed that since I felt the violin was stronger than the drums
2014-05-20 20:24 Giralda: added whistle
2014-05-20 20:25 captin1: 02:24:295 (4) - clap on endd
2014-05-20 20:25 captin1: 02:29:128 (7) - don't think this clap fits
2014-05-20 20:26 Giralda: done both
2014-05-20 20:26 captin1: 02:52:295 (2) - you don't have whistles on any of these in this section, when you did before
2014-05-20 20:27 captin1: 02:53:795 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - no hitsounds on the stream either
2014-05-20 20:27 Giralda: oh I know I missed a lot on those
2014-05-20 20:27 Giralda: It was more like I didn't know how to hitsound them
2014-05-20 20:27 captin1: if anything what you did was fine, just keep consistency
2014-05-20 20:27 Giralda: mmks~
2014-05-20 20:28 captin1: 03:14:795 (6) - vocal is on the skipped red tick
2014-05-20 20:29 captin1: 03:31:795 - this should have 1/3 snapping
2014-05-20 20:30 Giralda: that entire section right?
2014-05-20 20:30 captin1: yeah
2014-05-20 20:30 Giralda: done
2014-05-20 20:30 captin1: 03:35:795 - your ncs got off here, because there's a measure lead in
2014-05-20 20:31 captin1: 03:35:795 (3) - nc on this and then adjust accordingly
2014-05-20 20:31 captin1: also would be nice to hear a few soft whistles
2014-05-20 20:33 captin1: 03:43:461 (1) - ending slider on downbeat ;w;
2014-05-20 20:35 captin1: 03:52:461 (5) - would be cool if this was stacked under 03:50:794 (4) -
2014-05-20 20:36 captin1: 03:57:460 (4) - suddenly normal sampleset (is this a mistake)
2014-05-20 20:36 Giralda: yeah that was a mistake
2014-05-20 20:37 captin1: 04:28:627 (5) - so i get that you were using 1/1 sliders over the violin before, and it worked alright, but since you did 04:27:460 (1,2) - right before now this one sounds weird
2014-05-20 20:38 Giralda: yeah gonna fix that right now
2014-05-20 20:38 captin1: oh forgot 02:06:461 (1) - end on 02:09:128 - with a finish, fits more imo
2014-05-20 20:39 Giralda: done
2014-05-20 20:39 captin1: what does nyquill say
2014-05-20 20:39 Giralda: about what?
2014-05-20 20:39 captin1: modding kanbyou!

2014-05-27 00:00 Kihhou: 03:43:795 (1) -
2014-05-27 00:01 Kihhou: theres something really weird here o_o
2014-05-27 00:01 Kihhou: like a "pfffmt" sound
2014-05-27 00:01 Giralda: the drum sampleset
2014-05-27 00:01 Kihhou: that i didnt hear anywhere else in the map
2014-05-27 00:01 Kihhou: cept here
2014-05-27 00:01 Kihhou: 03:45:795 (4) -
2014-05-27 00:02 Giralda: 03:43:795 (1) - look at slider head and the look at the sampleset on the left hand side
2014-05-27 00:02 Kihhou: ohhhhh
2014-05-27 00:02 Kihhou: i was just thinking "oh wtf where that sound come from"
2014-05-27 00:03 Giralda: take it off and listen to the music
2014-05-27 00:03 Giralda: it sounds like it xD
2014-05-27 00:03 Kihhou: not sure if i hear it or not O_O
2014-05-27 00:03 Kihhou: am i crazy? lol
2014-05-27 00:04 Kihhou: 03:47:795 (3) -
2014-05-27 00:04 Kihhou: should this have it then?
2014-05-27 00:04 Giralda: There is a very heavy sounding bass drum I think
2014-05-27 00:04 Giralda: Don't you feel it too>
2014-05-27 00:04 Kihhou: yeah
2014-05-27 00:04 Giralda: yeah it should
2014-05-27 00:05 Kihhou: i happens a lot actually o-o
2014-05-27 00:05 Giralda: I'm confused
2014-05-27 00:05 Giralda: LOL
2014-05-27 00:05 Kihhou: wait to make sure im hearing the correct thing
2014-05-27 00:05 Kihhou: it happens on 03:50:794 (1) -
2014-05-27 00:05 Kihhou: head
2014-05-27 00:05 Kihhou: too right?
2014-05-27 00:06 Giralda: not there
2014-05-27 00:06 Giralda: It's not as strong as the other ones
2014-05-27 00:06 Giralda: like here 03:48:795 (1) -
2014-05-27 00:06 Kihhou: okay then im deaf. i have no idea what youre talking about lol dont mind meeeeee!
2014-05-27 00:06 Giralda: LOL
2014-05-27 00:06 Kihhou: hmm
2014-05-27 00:06 Giralda: oh wait it is there
2014-05-27 00:07 Kihhou: 03:49:794 (4) -
2014-05-27 00:07 Kihhou: head?
2014-05-27 00:07 Giralda: but it's so faint
2014-05-27 00:07 Kihhou: oh yeah
2014-05-27 00:07 Kihhou: so it is.. what i think it is looool
2014-05-27 00:08 Giralda: yeah I'll add it
2014-05-27 00:08 Kihhou: errr it may happen on every large white tick
2014-05-27 00:08 Kihhou: starting at 03:35:795 -
2014-05-27 00:09 Giralda: I think it starts on every white tick starting at 03:35:795 (1) -
2014-05-27 00:09 Kihhou: okay im done im done lol

2014-07-16 16:10 apaffy: hi! are you busy?
2014-07-16 16:12 Giralda: Hi! Not right now haha
2014-07-16 16:12 apaffy: rip
2014-07-16 16:14 Giralda: Wait I mean that by I'm not busy right now LOL
2014-07-16 16:14 apaffy: oh wow
2014-07-16 16:14 apaffy: my english skills are so bad
2014-07-16 16:14 apaffy: can't even read welp
2014-07-16 16:14 apaffy: ok so
2014-07-16 16:15 apaffy: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/434870 Yousei Teikoku - Wahrheit [Revelation]]
2014-07-16 16:15 apaffy: first off, this was really fun to play
2014-07-16 16:15 apaffy: i'm looking forward to fc'ing this when its ranked
2014-07-16 16:16 Giralda: oops this kind of happened http://puu.sh/aeo0F/b2534fde77.png
2014-07-16 16:16 apaffy: it's okay!
2014-07-16 16:17 Giralda: But yeah continue~ I only got the part where you said that it was fun to play
2014-07-16 16:17 Giralda: LOL
2014-07-16 16:17 apaffy: all i said was http://puu.sh/aeo66.jpg ww
2014-07-16 16:17 Giralda: oh www
2014-07-16 16:18 apaffy: 00:42:796 (3) - this would look ~prettier~ if you curved it around the head of 4 i guess https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825352
2014-07-16 16:18 apaffy: would probably have to edit 00:42:368 (2) - as well though for consistency
2014-07-16 16:18 Giralda: sure
2014-07-16 16:18 Giralda: Yeah I'll do that
2014-07-16 16:20 apaffy: personally, i'm not a fan of 01:03:461 (4) - or 01:06:128 (5) -
2014-07-16 16:20 apaffy: this section in general feels nice because of constant movement
2014-07-16 16:21 apaffy: and this sort of breaks up the feel of it with long repeats idk
2014-07-16 16:21 apaffy: plus it's not really consistent with00:58:128 (5,6,7) -
2014-07-16 16:21 Giralda: Hmm good point
2014-07-16 16:21 Giralda: I think
2014-07-16 16:22 Giralda: I had the 1/1 at 01:03:461 (4) because I didn't want a repeat to end on a large white tick
2014-07-16 16:22 Giralda: so out of laziness
2014-07-16 16:22 Giralda: I kind of, yeah
2014-07-16 16:23 apaffy: 01:10:795 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
2014-07-16 16:23 apaffy: stop me if i'm going too fast btw
2014-07-16 16:23 apaffy: you've got a lot of space to work with here
2014-07-16 16:24 apaffy: if you want to do these sort of overlap stuff that's fine!
2014-07-16 16:24 apaffy: but i think i would space it out a little bit more
2014-07-16 16:24 Giralda: 01:10:795 (2,4,5,7,8,9,10) - Double triangle LOL
2014-07-16 16:24 apaffy: ye
2014-07-16 16:24 Giralda: But I could probably space it out a little more you're right
2014-07-16 16:25 apaffy: 01:19:461 (4,5) - this i don't like at all
2014-07-16 16:25 apaffy: it looks bad and plays kinda bad
2014-07-16 16:25 apaffy: the blanket feels kinda forced
2014-07-16 16:26 apaffy: and the overlap on top of it feels weird to read
2014-07-16 16:26 apaffy: well rather
2014-07-16 16:26 apaffy: yeah, i think i stated that how i wanted to
2014-07-16 16:27 apaffy: talk to me long enough and you'll find that my grasp of the enlgish language is not great
2014-07-16 16:27 apaffy: enlgish
2014-07-16 16:27 Giralda: english
2014-07-16 16:27 Giralda: engrish
2014-07-16 16:27 Giralda: It's okay LOL
2014-07-16 16:27 apaffy: if you must keep the blanket, i'd at least do something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825381
2014-07-16 16:28 apaffy: but idk
2014-07-16 16:28 apaffy: up to you of course ww
2014-07-16 16:28 Giralda: hmm
2014-07-16 16:28 Giralda: what about a repeat on 3?
2014-07-16 16:28 Giralda: and then ctrl g 5
2014-07-16 16:28 apaffy: hmm, i think that would work!
2014-07-16 16:29 apaffy: i would move five down some too though
2014-07-16 16:29 Giralda: Awesome~
2014-07-16 16:29 Giralda: sure
2014-07-16 16:29 apaffy: still keep the blanket, but that way you don't lose some of the jump in there
2014-07-16 16:29 Giralda: yeah I agree
2014-07-16 16:30 apaffy: 01:24:795 (4,5) - i have a similar problem with this one too
2014-07-16 16:30 apaffy: it's just that it's an overlap + anti-jump to 5
2014-07-16 16:30 apaffy: i don't think it flows well, the cursor movement there feels awkward
2014-07-16 16:32 apaffy: you could maybe stack 4 on top of 5 and have a nice little pause in the cursor movement there for a second, though it would be a bit larger jump
2014-07-16 16:33 Giralda: I used a similar solution as before and then rearranged the sliders a bit
2014-07-16 16:33 apaffy: oky
2014-07-16 16:34 Giralda: http://puu.sh/aepzI/4b2998a0f6.jpg
2014-07-16 16:34 apaffy: ooooo, nice
2014-07-16 16:34 Giralda: and then something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825397 after
2014-07-16 16:34 apaffy: ooo
2014-07-16 16:35 Giralda: which would still flow into 01:26:961 (2,3) - perfectly finee
2014-07-16 16:35 apaffy: 01:29:795 (3,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825398
2014-07-16 16:35 apaffy: ;;
2014-07-16 16:36 Giralda: The overlap right LOL
2014-07-16 16:36 apaffy: "y-you know i d-don't like it when you touch me like that 5... aaaaahhahaahhaa!"
2014-07-16 16:37 Giralda: HAHAHA
2014-07-16 16:37 apaffy: this could be kinda neat stacking idk, you could stack 01:30:128 (5) - on the top of 01:31:128 (4) - and then rotate it 45 degrees
2014-07-16 16:38 apaffy: and you'd still have a blanket
2014-07-16 16:38 apaffy: but it wouldn't touch anymore
2014-07-16 16:38 Giralda: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825409 ~
2014-07-16 16:38 apaffy: or that too works!
2014-07-16 16:39 Giralda: 5 is giving 3 her personal space~
2014-07-16 16:39 apaffy: are you really using grid level 1 lol
2014-07-16 16:39 Giralda: yeah
2014-07-16 16:39 apaffy: interesting
2014-07-16 16:40 apaffy: im not sure i've ever seen anyone use it w
2014-07-16 16:40 apaffy: 01:37:795 (3) - like
2014-07-16 16:40 apaffy: what is this suppose to be doing
2014-07-16 16:40 apaffy: blanketing 01:37:461 (2) - and 01:38:295 (4) - ????
2014-07-16 16:41 Giralda: err I think so
2014-07-16 16:41 Giralda: LOL
2014-07-16 16:41 apaffy: oh
2014-07-16 16:41 apaffy: well in that case it kinda fails sorry
2014-07-16 16:42 apaffy: i had another thing i forgot to mention earliar
2014-07-16 16:42 apaffy: err, question
2014-07-16 16:43 apaffy: 01:09:128 (7) -
2014-07-16 16:43 apaffy: 01:10:461 (1) -
2014-07-16 16:43 apaffy: what are these claps
2014-07-16 16:43 apaffy: clapped to?
2014-07-16 16:44 Giralda: Uh
2014-07-16 16:45 Giralda: Oh idk why I just thought I needed them there since I thought I heard something that needed a clap but I guess not LOL
2014-07-16 16:45 apaffy: 01:11:795 (8) - i was kinda expecting one here, because i thought it was going to be at the start of every measure sort of thing
2014-07-16 16:45 apaffy: o
2014-07-16 16:45 Giralda: Like if you hear the start of every measure the vocal seems to be stronger
2014-07-16 16:45 Giralda: for that part
2014-07-16 16:46 apaffy: yeah, i see
2014-07-16 16:46 Giralda: yeah
2014-07-16 16:46 apaffy: okay, fair enough
2014-07-16 16:46 Giralda: but I guess having one at 01:11:795 (8) - would be fine too
2014-07-16 16:47 apaffy: 01:45:628 (2) - 01:46:461 (5) - stack? idk??
2014-07-16 16:47 apaffy: 01:45:628 (2) - 01:46:461 (5) - stack? idk??
2014-07-16 16:47 apaffy: oops
2014-07-16 16:48 apaffy: i mean feel free btw to reject anything i say
2014-07-16 16:48 apaffy: if you don't like it
2014-07-16 16:48 Giralda: Uh I knew this was gonna come up at some point but it kind of screws up the symmetry at 01:45:795 (3,4) - by -trying- to be at the center of 01:46:461 (5) -
2014-07-16 16:48 Giralda: Oh I know
2014-07-16 16:48 apaffy: that's fair enough
2014-07-16 16:49 Giralda: I'm kind of a open minded mapper so I occasionally take more than I reject
2014-07-16 16:49 apaffy: but it looks like 4 and 3 are exactly centered
2014-07-16 16:49 apaffy: and 5 is not
2014-07-16 16:50 Giralda: Yeah I kind of don't know where the center is
2014-07-16 16:50 Giralda: x-x
2014-07-16 16:50 apaffy: so i think 5 still needs to be adjusted in that case if that's what you're trying to do
2014-07-16 16:50 apaffy: try x:255 y:150
2014-07-16 16:51 Giralda: okay~
2014-07-16 16:52 apaffy: 02:31:128 (3,5) - w
2014-07-16 16:52 Giralda: asdf ok
2014-07-16 16:52 apaffy: just stack 3 on the end of 5
2014-07-16 16:52 apaffy: simple fix!
2014-07-16 16:53 apaffy: there's not like anything wrong with the rhythm or jumps etc, i feel dumb for doing a nazi mod orz
2014-07-16 16:54 apaffy: 02:49:795 (3) - i would just make this a curved slider like 4
2014-07-16 16:54 apaffy: because it looks odd
2014-07-16 16:54 Giralda: It's okay I feel the same sometimes but I don't hate nazi mods xD
2014-07-16 16:55 apaffy: 03:00:628 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825456 ?
2014-07-16 16:56 Giralda: uh I tried https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825459
2014-07-16 16:56 apaffy: 03:15:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i feel like these would be better emphasized by 1/2 sliders
2014-07-16 16:56 apaffy: like 03:17:128 (7,8,9,10) -
2014-07-16 16:57 apaffy: oh wait
2014-07-16 16:57 apaffy: no never
2014-07-16 16:57 apaffy: mind
2014-07-16 16:57 apaffy: i see
2014-07-16 16:57 Giralda: xD
2014-07-16 16:57 apaffy: that drum is kinda subtle though
2014-07-16 16:57 apaffy: but fair enough
2014-07-16 16:57 Giralda: mhm~
2014-07-16 16:58 apaffy: 03:33:795 (1) - i don't think this needs to be NC'd
2014-07-16 16:58 Giralda: haha okay
2014-07-16 16:58 apaffy: 03:46:795 (2) - this slider doesn't make sense
2014-07-16 16:59 apaffy: up until this point you were mapping the xylophone/bells thing in the background
2014-07-16 16:59 apaffy: 03:42:295 (2,3,4) - like here
2014-07-16 16:59 apaffy: plus the vocals there
2014-07-16 16:59 apaffy: that just doesn't make sense rhythmically
2014-07-16 16:59 apaffy: 03:47:128 - 03:47:295 - there should be stuff on these
2014-07-16 17:00 Giralda: I think the vocals distracted me so I just naturally mapped to it
2014-07-16 17:00 apaffy: 03:50:794 (1) - similarly, this would be better as a 1/1 repeat
2014-07-16 17:01 apaffy: 03:51:128 - because there's a note here
2014-07-16 17:01 apaffy: it's a bit subtle but it's definitely there
2014-07-16 17:02 Giralda: I thought the slider tick would be enough to match it
2014-07-16 17:02 Giralda: but I guess not o-o
2014-07-16 17:02 Giralda: I'm not really sure on how to effectively use sliderticks
2014-07-16 17:02 apaffy: i think it would be much better as a repeat
2014-07-16 17:02 apaffy: + whistles
2014-07-16 17:02 Giralda: yeah suree
2014-07-16 17:04 apaffy: 04:11:793 (2,3) - ew
2014-07-16 17:04 Giralda: ew
2014-07-16 17:04 Giralda: wait what
2014-07-16 17:04 apaffy: it looks ehhhh
2014-07-16 17:05 apaffy: bear in mind i map with like, zero overlaps like this so i guess i might be projecting a bit too much
2014-07-16 17:05 apaffy: eh, up to you ww
2014-07-16 17:05 Giralda: ww
2014-07-16 17:05 apaffy: i don't think i have anything else in this diff
2014-07-16 17:05 apaffy: it's pretty amazing overall
2014-07-16 17:06 apaffy: i like it more than the wahrheit ranked now
2014-07-16 17:06 apaffy: a lot more even
2014-07-16 17:06 apaffy: okay onto other diffs
2014-07-16 17:06 Giralda: okay~
2014-07-16 17:06 Giralda: Normal is still WIP so ignore that
2014-07-16 17:06 apaffy: i know you told me to NOT look at the normal, and for the most part i didn't
2014-07-16 17:06 apaffy: but i just wanted to mention one thing
2014-07-16 17:08 apaffy: ok nvm i'll just wait until you're finished with it and then short recheck i guess
2014-07-16 17:08 Giralda: haha alright
2014-07-16 17:09 apaffy: ok this hard mod is probably going to be quite short because, i honestly have no clue what to say about it
2014-07-16 17:09 apaffy: it's good
2014-07-16 17:09 Giralda: It's uh
2014-07-16 17:09 Giralda: the first Hard I made
2014-07-16 17:09 apaffy: wtf
2014-07-16 17:09 Giralda: yeah
2014-07-16 17:10 apaffy: 00:45:796 (3) - maybe stack this on 1 or something, it's pretty clean but i was under the impression most hard modders/BATs hate overlaps idk
2014-07-16 17:10 apaffy: hey i noticed something you did here that you didn't do in the insane
2014-07-16 17:10 apaffy: 00:51:475 (1) -
2014-07-16 17:10 apaffy: your spinner
2014-07-16 17:10 apaffy: starts on the blue tick here, in the insane it starts on the red tick
2014-07-16 17:10 apaffy: please be consistent
2014-07-16 17:10 apaffy: on that
2014-07-16 17:10 Giralda: UHHH
2014-07-16 17:11 Giralda: I didn't even notice LOL
2014-07-16 17:11 Giralda: thank youu
2014-07-16 17:11 apaffy: either way works fine, it's just someone will mention it later
2014-07-16 17:11 Giralda: mhm
2014-07-16 17:12 apaffy: one thing i noticed
2014-07-16 17:12 apaffy: almost complete use of distance snap
2014-07-16 17:12 apaffy: which is fine of course
2014-07-16 17:12 apaffy: but don't be afraid to use jumps sparringly too
2014-07-16 17:13 Giralda: Most of the jumps are present during the chorus
2014-07-16 17:13 Giralda: But since
2014-07-16 17:13 Giralda: the Insane is kind of jump heavy
2014-07-16 17:13 Giralda: I wanted to make the Hard easier
2014-07-16 17:13 apaffy: that's totally fair
2014-07-16 17:13 apaffy: i didn't mean to imply that it was bad, if it sounded like that
2014-07-16 17:14 Giralda: Oh no I wanted to let you know my thoughts on it haha
2014-07-16 17:14 apaffy: oh i see what you mean now
2014-07-16 17:14 apaffy: 01:51:795 (1,2) -
2014-07-16 17:14 apaffy: like there we go
2014-07-16 17:14 Giralda: yep
2014-07-16 17:15 apaffy: you're not going to use any kiai time?
2014-07-16 17:15 apaffy: it's not required that you do, but it would fit with the choruses
2014-07-16 17:15 Giralda: Still debating
2014-07-16 17:15 Giralda: I have a love-hate relationship with kiai time
2014-07-16 17:15 apaffy: i have like all the visual effects off almost, so i don't even notice it usually ww
2014-07-16 17:16 apaffy: i guess that's why i'm kinda kiai-heavy in my maps, i just throw it because it doesn't affect me ww
2014-07-16 17:16 Giralda: ww
2014-07-16 17:16 apaffy: maybe i should stop that
2014-07-16 17:16 Giralda: LOOL
2014-07-16 17:16 Giralda: When I started playing
2014-07-16 17:16 Giralda: I found kiai time extremely annoying
2014-07-16 17:16 Giralda: when I started mapping
2014-07-16 17:16 Giralda: I loved kiai time to death so like
2014-07-16 17:17 Giralda: I know that the majority of players who play crazy maps
2014-07-16 17:17 Giralda: dont really care
2014-07-16 17:17 apaffy: i always used a custom skin, and had a really bad computer; so it was just meh
2014-07-16 17:17 Giralda: but some people actually just flat out hate it so I'm kind of in between
2014-07-16 17:17 Giralda: ahh
2014-07-16 17:17 apaffy: 01:55:461 (4) - i think you could have some occasional five stacks
2014-07-16 17:18 apaffy: as it is now, your diff spread is a bit uneven
2014-07-16 17:18 apaffy: this hard could be more difficult
2014-07-16 17:18 apaffy: it's a bit on the too easy side
2014-07-16 17:18 Giralda: Even if it was gonna be an NHI spread?
2014-07-16 17:18 apaffy: 3 to 5 stars is a pretty big jump in difficulty
2014-07-16 17:18 apaffy: yeah
2014-07-16 17:18 Giralda: hmm okay
2014-07-16 17:18 apaffy: i think this would be a better spread fit if it was closer to 3.2-3.3 stars
2014-07-16 17:19 apaffy: and probably a few more triplets or stacks like that would push it up to that
2014-07-16 17:20 Giralda: okay sure!
2014-07-16 17:20 apaffy: do hards usually use hp 6?
2014-07-16 17:20 apaffy: idk what settings are good rip
2014-07-16 17:20 Giralda: yeah
2014-07-16 17:21 apaffy: do you really like yousei teikoku
2014-07-16 17:21 apaffy: i mean
2014-07-16 17:22 apaffy: just curious!
2014-07-16 17:22 Giralda: Well not really like, just kind of a fan
2014-07-16 17:22 Giralda: xD
2014-07-16 17:22 apaffy: ah
2014-07-16 17:22 apaffy: 03:22:961 (2,3) - i really didn't like this pause
2014-07-16 17:22 apaffy: +ｓｔａｃｋ
2014-07-16 17:22 apaffy: ugh chinese ime please
2014-07-16 17:22 apaffy: stop shifting my fonts like that
2014-07-16 17:22 Giralda: xD
2014-07-16 17:23 apaffy: but the way you did that, it's unlike any other 1/1 gap in the map
2014-07-16 17:23 apaffy: so it just feels awkward
2014-07-16 17:24 apaffy: 03:22:961 (2) - really i think this should be a repeat slider like 03:22:461 (1) - anyways
2014-07-16 17:24 apaffy: it would match the rhythm better
2014-07-16 17:24 apaffy: because the violin there is still 1/2
2014-07-16 17:25 Giralda: okayy
2014-07-16 17:25 apaffy: 03:42:461 (5,6,1) - this was also kinda weird, because it skips the vocal cue at 03:42:295 -
2014-07-16 17:26 apaffy: 03:49:461 (3,4,1,2,3) - this is sort of the same rhythm here, yet you mapped it there and not the one spot before
2014-07-16 17:27 Giralda: hmm okay gonna change it ~
2014-07-16 17:27 apaffy: oky
2014-07-16 17:28 apaffy: 04:06:460 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - this gets a bit cluttered visually
2014-07-16 17:28 apaffy: this is more of an ar8 pattern
2014-07-16 17:29 apaffy: i guess it's not so bad though
2014-07-16 17:29 apaffy: other than that
2014-07-16 17:29 apaffy: i think that's it
2014-07-16 17:29 apaffy: gj
2014-07-16 17:30 Giralda: okayy thank you apaffy <3
2014-07-16 17:30 apaffy: np~
2014-07-16 17:30 apaffy: glad i could help!
2014-07-16 17:30 apaffy: if i did anyways www

17:40 Okoratu: Giralda
17:41 Okoratu: do i really write a modpost now
17:41 Giralda: idk
17:41 Giralda: LOL
17:41 Okoratu: or do you irc
17:41 Giralda: lets do IRC now since like I'm not half asleep now
17:41 Giralda: unlike last night
17:42 Giralda: where I might misinterpret what you're saying
17:42 *Okoratu is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/434870 Yousei Teikoku - Wahrheit [Revelation]]
17:42 Okoratu: k
17:42 Okoratu: goddammit
17:42 Okoratu: my mom entered the game and is shouting
17:42 Okoratu: kk brb
17:42 Giralda: ok
17:52 Okoratu: re
17:52 Giralda: o/
17:54 Okoratu: can we start
17:54 Okoratu: ? D:
17:55 Giralda: yeah LOL
17:55 Okoratu: 00:29:510 (4) - i'm a bit annoyed by this one since it's the only long slider in this section which actually skips beats
17:56 Okoratu: the other similar thing to it is 00:36:368 (4,5,6,7) -
17:56 Okoratu: at least going by the background things
17:56 Giralda: 00:29:510 (4) - is supposed to match00:25:225 (3) -
17:57 Okoratu: but the first one doesn't have 1/2 background things
17:57 Okoratu: and the second one has
17:57 Okoratu: like no other longer slider here has but only this one
17:57 Giralda: that sound in 00:29:725 - during mid slider right?
17:58 Okoratu: ye
17:58 Okoratu: that's what i'm referring to all the time
17:58 Okoratu: i think the other 1/1 sliders around here don't have such sounds and only this one has
17:58 Okoratu: which is why i linked 00:36:368 (4,5,6,7) - to point out that these background sounds are the same
18:00 Okoratu: think about that if you want these to match or you could follow the 1/2 in there
18:00 Okoratu: is this still making sense
18:01 Okoratu: also does buffing stack leniency to 8 destroy anything fundamental
18:01 Giralda: it might
18:02 Okoratu: because stuff like 00:41:939 (1,2) - are the only things that are not stacking ingame since you use custom stacks for the other 1/1 in this part
18:03 Okoratu: which isn't really an issue just a thing i noticed
18:04 Giralda: hold on a sec let me like
18:04 Giralda: remap the beginning a little bit
18:05 Okoratu: k
18:05 Giralda: I'm starting to look at it and dislike it
18:05 Okoratu: i would have continued pointing out how i'd love to see OD 9 or 8.5 on this
18:06 Giralda: Do you think 9.2 may be too much?
18:06 Okoratu: AR
18:07 Okoratu: I'm talking about OD
18:07 Giralda: oh wait
18:07 Giralda: LOL
18:07 Giralda: OD 8.5 would be acceptable
18:07 Okoratu: just tested half of it at OD 9 and had 98%
18:07 Okoratu: so idk
18:07 Giralda: But putting it at 8.5 wouldn't be what this map was aiming for
18:07 Okoratu: what exactly was it aiming for
18:08 Giralda: Trying to be a more average player friendly type map
18:08 Giralda: I'm more or less appealing to the 8k+ range
18:09 Okoratu: so if that's what you wanted to do
18:13 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/afrFo/14b0514a2d.jpg
18:14 Okoratu: that's what you will get from the average #1100 player then
18:14 Giralda: That's intended
18:14 Okoratu: then that's k
18:14 Okoratu: i guess
18:14 Okoratu: it's just that I personally would find it more interesting at higher od
18:15 Okoratu: and that's the end of this
18:15 Giralda: mhm
18:16 Okoratu: do these draw a smiley lol 01:23:128 (7,8,1) -
18:16 Giralda: LOL I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out
18:16 Giralda: but no it doesn't lol
18:17 Okoratu: that's what i thought when i played it
18:17 Okoratu: "did he draw a kirby"
18:17 Giralda: HAHAHAHA
18:17 Giralda: I think that was me playing around with symmetry
18:18 Okoratu: 01:27:628 (5) - could rotate this one slightly so that 01:27:461 (4,5,6) - is a bit more smooth
18:19 Okoratu: ye -10deg should do
18:20 Giralda: donee
18:20 Okoratu: is the unsymmetrical streamshape 01:44:378 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - intentional
18:21 Giralda: yes
18:21 Okoratu: with all the symmetry you use i don't quite get it but ok
18:21 Giralda: That's gonna get changed into 02:56:378 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - so it doesn't matter right now
18:21 Giralda: I was more or less experimenting with stream designs
18:23 Giralda: But if idk if I could fix the one I have now at 01:44:378 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I probably would keep it
18:24 Okoratu: k
18:26 Okoratu: 01:59:295 (4,5,6) - something about how the line you draw doesn't really flow as nice as 02:00:295 (7,8) - probably because 01:59:295 (4) - is pointing downwards instead of upwards or something like that
18:27 Okoratu: or the distance between 01:59:628 (5,6) -
18:28 Okoratu: or 01:59:795 (6) - 's general angle
18:28 Okoratu: moving it further away from the circle seems to work
18:28 Giralda: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1827784 would this be a bit better lol
18:28 Okoratu: while rotating a bit would also be a nice idea
18:30 Giralda: erm https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1827789
18:30 Okoratu: not directly
18:30 Giralda: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1827792 idk I moved it down a bit more so the linear flow is evident
18:31 Okoratu: oh goddammit you have so many ideas i would never get
18:31 Giralda: Hahaha
18:32 Okoratu: 01:58:795 (3) - suggests a downwards movement thought <.<
18:32 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/afsN0/a72121aae1.jpg
18:32 Okoratu: help
18:32 Okoratu: this is so complicated
18:32 Okoratu: also imma switch to a skin with numbers or you die
18:33 Giralda: LOOOL
18:34 Okoratu: (i usually play without colors as well)
18:34 Giralda: hey going downwards would screw up the flow
18:34 Giralda: nonono
18:34 Okoratu: your way seems to work nicely
18:34 Okoratu: so that's kinda ok
18:35 Giralda: ~
18:35 Okoratu: how about adding a circle and starting the spinner shortly after 02:06:461
18:35 Okoratu: 02:06:461 -
18:35 Okoratu: dammit
18:36 Okoratu: nice soft-hitclap2.waf
18:36 Okoratu: wav*
18:36 Okoratu: asdf
18:36 Giralda: might as well
18:36 Giralda: and thanks~
18:36 Okoratu: since it's so nice you would skip one of these claps in 02:21:795 -
18:37 Okoratu: by adding that pause
18:37 Giralda: uhhhhhhhhhhhh
18:37 Giralda: ehehehe'
18:37 Okoratu: whatever the other sliders are going over that as well
18:38 Okoratu: like 02:26:961 (2) - and 02:28:295 (4) -
18:38 Giralda: yeah
18:38 Okoratu: makes this hitsounding a bit inconsistent but i guess it follows the vocal nicely
18:39 Giralda: Still thinking about what to do at that part
18:39 Giralda: I might end up using the sliderticks instead
18:39 Okoratu: that's cool too but if you do that you should add some kind of thing to 02:21:795 -
18:39 Okoratu: i guess
18:39 Giralda: and do some passive hitsounding
18:39 Giralda: yeah
18:40 Okoratu: 02:29:628 (1) - idk
18:40 Giralda: owo
18:40 Okoratu: but sounds like this could end on a white tick and have a bit more suspension before the next part
18:41 Okoratu: like she starts inhaling in 02:30:128 -
18:42 Giralda: maybe shorten to 02:30:128 - and then use a 1/4 at 02:30:295 -
18:43 Okoratu: dunno the SV change could destroy this idea so i'd guess you should experiment on your own
18:43 Giralda: yeah i'll see what I could maybe do
18:43 Okoratu: rather than going through all possibilities now
18:44 Okoratu: 02:33:795 (3) - something about how this one is a bit random considering your other slidershapes
18:45 Giralda: Well I used that shape because I've been using straight sliders for that one section
18:45 Giralda: It would look really bad if I did a curved shaped one without a red anchor
18:46 Okoratu: k maybe it's the position of the red anchor that annoys me a bit
18:47 Okoratu: dunno
18:47 Giralda: haha
18:48 Okoratu: 02:51:795 (1) - i'm not really a fan of the simplifications here
18:50 Okoratu: 03:14:128 (4) - idk i just don't really like this akldf jaslkdfj
18:52 Okoratu: oh yes i just noticed something which you could very well use
18:52 Okoratu: 01:55:461 - could toggle kiai off here and on 01:55:795 -
18:53 Okoratu: 03:07:461 - and 03:07:795 -
18:53 Okoratu: 04:03:127 - and 04:03:460 -
18:54 Giralda: yes
18:54 Giralda: I agree
18:55 Okoratu: also something about how AR 9.2 might not fit your audience of 8k ~ ish players
18:55 Okoratu: since the slow parts are kinda harder to get with this
18:56 Giralda: oh yeah good point
18:56 Okoratu: 04:29:293 (7) - i personally disagree with this one slider
18:56 Okoratu: because there's a pause before
18:56 Okoratu: and both sounds are empathized
18:56 Okoratu: so i think 2 circles might be more fitting for this
18:58 Okoratu: 02:51:795 (1) - also my problem with this part was that your sliders are mapping to vocals for most of the time but not in this section
18:59 Giralda: The sliders are shaped in an attempt to match vocal pitch
19:00 Okoratu: still anticlimactic .-.
19:00 Okoratu: but whatever
19:01 Okoratu: ok so this would be all for now will randomly point out other things related to flow in the next time the more i play it
19:01 Okoratu: since i have to do some shopping for tomorrow
19:01 Okoratu: so... afk
19:01 Giralda: okayy have fun!
21:02 Okoratu: so ok re
21:03 Okoratu: 03:23:795 (1,2,3,4,5) - these kind of break your whistle pattern i guess
21:03 Okoratu: ??
21:04 Giralda: I didn't really follow a whistle pattern I just used them for minor emphasis
21:05 Okoratu: 03:26:461 (1) - this thing follows
21:05 Okoratu: though
21:05 Okoratu: i guess
21:06 Okoratu: oh yes
21:06 Okoratu: 04:07:293 (4) -
21:06 Okoratu: wat
21:06 Okoratu: 4.4x ok
21:06 Giralda: yeah
21:07 Giralda: LOL
21:07 Okoratu: moving it to at least (78|333) wouldn't even hurt lel
21:13 Okoratu: i still think 03:14:128 (4) - doesn't need the red anchor but
21:13 Okoratu: yo that's about it
21:14 Giralda: alrightt
21:14 Okoratu: AR 7 on the hard u sure
21:19 Giralda: yeah
21:19 Giralda: I'm sure
21:20 Okoratu: ok i need to map some hards and have newbs play them
21:20 Okoratu: i can't really judge those diffs the heck
21:20 Giralda: LOL
21:21 Okoratu: like my first thought was that the AR7 looks cool in the beginning
21:21 Okoratu: and then too slow after
21:21 Giralda: oh
21:24 Okoratu: AR 7.5 could be cooler idk
21:25 Okoratu: also i have the feeling that things like 00:55:462 (1) - should be custom stacked
21:25 Okoratu: because things like 01:10:461 (1,3) - do in fact stack ingame
21:26 Okoratu: while 01:18:128 (4) - and similar places don't
21:26 Giralda: What do you mean by custom stacked lol
21:27 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/afFH8/477eac580c.jpg
21:28 Okoratu: placed on the grid in a way that emulates the stacking behaviour of the game with stack leniency
21:28 Giralda: http://puu.sh/afFL0/6440de2990.jpg am I doing it right
21:29 Okoratu: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/jenny
21:29 Okoratu: spoilerbox: a little word on stacking
21:29 Giralda: oh yeah that
21:30 Okoratu: 01:53:795 (3) - press test around here and just look what could be broken
21:31 Okoratu: 01:55:461 (4,5,6,7,1) - becomes http://puu.sh/afFXF/4537708aaf.jpg
21:31 Okoratu: and well you could factor that in when stacking those things in the editor
21:32 Okoratu: the slider stays at its initial position while the stack itself is deformed
21:34 Okoratu: 03:07:461 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^ that's kinda the same
21:35 Okoratu: 03:42:295 (5,6,1) - if you look at 03:50:294 (2,3,1) - this first one could probably be moved down by a bit
21:41 Giralda: Is that all owo
21:43 Okoratu: i think so
21:43 Giralda: post \o/
21:43 Okoratu: I'm also not really motivated and might throw around other stuff whenever