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Primastella - Koigokoro [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 9:17:15 AM

Artist: Primastella
Title: Koigokoro
Source: ルーセントハート
Tags: lucent heart exit trance speed anime j-trance
BPM: 140
Filesize: 4465kb
Play Time: 02:36
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1.77 stars, 303 notes)
  2. Kantan (0.99 stars, 163 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2.57 stars, 453 notes)
  4. Oni (3.28 stars, 719 notes)
Download: Primastella - Koigokoro
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Experimenting with Taiko. Just foolin' around. Not foolin' around no more.
mp3 from Luerxa's map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/127712

Thank you!
Thank you to Groumiezi, JUDYDANNY, bbj0920, lZenxl, [I]MMoRTal[S], Konpaku Sariel, tetsutaro, Charlotte, -Sh1n1-, Senritsu, game rock, rew0825, and qoot8123 for the mods.
Thank you to Mystyk and Charlotte for donating stars ^_^
Thank you to Stefan for doing BAT checks and 1st bubble
Thank you to qoot8123 for the ranked status!

08/06/2014 Background is now at rankable size. Whoops.
11/30/2014 Gahhh I'm back. Finally had the heart to look at this again.
12/24/2014 Update before Stefan looks at this
03/16/2015 Hey-o I'm back. Busy with IRL matters.
04/16/2015 It's ranked now folks! :D
(UPDATE July 13 2016) Source for the background has been deleted, sorry folks :(
Charlotte
Why do not you rank map? It is a great map XD
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime

desire scarlet wrote:

Why do not you rank map? It is a great map XD
I'm working on it ;)
Thanks for your comment!
Groumiezi
Hi.

Black: Mean Suggestion
Green: Very questionable
Red: Unrankable stuff

[General]
  1. Offset: 258? it's so perfect for me.
  2. At the kantan, you can't use 1.30 SV. it's unrankable. From here, ranking criteria say kantan/futsuu are 1.20 or 1.00 generally used. And maybe kantan 1.00 futsu 1.20?
  3. BG Size is unrankable.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:05:380 (1) - Kat? vocal goes higher
    00:06:666 (2) - ^
    00:09:452 (1,2) - damnit 1/2 here for kantan D:
    00:15:666 (1) - finisher duuudeee
    00:37:952 (1) - kat?
    00:43:523 (1,1) - swap, before is higher than after
    00:49:523 (3) - kat?
    00:44:809 (1) - finisher for the kiai starter, almost cymbal here
    00:58:523 (1) - ^
    01:08:809 (2) - kat? this is higher
    01:20:809 (7) - ^
    01:25:095 (15) - del kat?
    01:25:523 (16) - add kat?
    01:27:666 (1) - finishyer
    01:41:380 (1) - ^
    01:48:238 (2,3,4,5) - rofl what pitchmapping do you use? not fit D;
    02:22:523 (1) - finisher here
    02:36:238 (2) - finisher
[Futsuu]
  1. Note that i used 238 Offset, you should change offset first.
  2. 00:04:524 (1,2,1) - kkd fits imo
    00:12:666 (2) - kat
    00:15:666 (1) - finisher
    00:18:238 (1) - kat
    00:25:952 (1) - unnecessary finisher!!!!!1111 change to kat
    00:23:809 (3,4,5,6,7) - please change to kdkkd
    00:31:095 (1) - finisher
    00:37:523 (3) - kat, almost the clap here
    00:44:809 (1) - finisher
    00:47:380 (1) - kat
    00:50:595 - add a don here?
    00:57:238 (1,1) - add kat?
    00:58:523 (1) - finisher
    01:07:094 (1,2) - be a kat
    01:07:523 (3) - be a don
    01:10:952 (1,1) - kat
    01:21:237 (3) - kat
    01:29:380 (3,4) - be a kat
    01:29:809 (5) - be a don
sorry don't give me kudosu, my mod is incomplete, will finish it later because need to bath LOL
/me go to bathroom
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime
Hi Groumiezi, I'll wait for your mods for the other diffs, but for now I've reviewed what you modded so far. Let me know when you're done so I'll award you the kudosu. Thanks!

-NP

Groumiezi wrote:

Hi.

Black: Mean Suggestion
Green: Very questionable
Red: Unrankable stuff

[General]
  1. Offset: 258? it's so perfect for me. Not on my end, it seems; on 258 the notes are a bit late. I borrowed the offset from the ranked Koigokoro map and I believe it works fine.
  2. At the kantan, you can't use 1.30 SV. it's unrankable. From here, ranking criteria say kantan/futsuu are 1.20 or 1.00 generally used. And maybe kantan 1.00 futsu 1.20? fixed speeds
  3. BG Size is unrankable.will find another one soon
[Kantan]
  1. 00:05:380 (1) - Kat? vocal goes higher done
    00:06:666 (2) - ^ not changing, unless someone else also objects; I feel don is okay because there is a slight inflection in the vocals here
    00:09:452 (1,2) - damnit 1/2 here for kantan D: Yeah, after re-reading the wiki and looking at other beatmaps, I guess this is a bit difficult. Still new to this!
    00:15:666 (1) - finisher duuudeee done, also made the first note of every kiai section a finisher
    00:37:952 (1) - kat? done
    00:43:523 (1,1) - swap, before is higher than after done
    00:49:523 (3) - kat? eh, I like don better, otherwise the beat goes on too long without a don - throughout the song there's a constant don every now and then to match the steady beat of the song, which is what makes it catchy
    00:44:809 (1) - finisher for the kiai starter, almost cymbal here done, put big Don instead of Kat for consistency
    00:58:523 (1) - ^ ditto
    01:08:809 (2) - kat? this is higher done
    01:20:809 (7) - ^ done
    01:25:095 (15) - del kat?
    01:25:523 (16) - add kat? I didn't change these two; this section sounds so much like the other one before it that I left the notes identical - is that frowned upon? I didn't really see a good reason to leave this any different from the other section by only a few notes.
    01:27:666 (1) - finishyer done
    01:41:380 (1) - ^ ditto
    01:48:238 (2,3,4,5) - rofl what pitchmapping do you use? not fit D; whoops. fixed.
    02:22:523 (1) - finisher here done
    02:36:238 (2) - finisherdone
[Futsuu]
  1. Note that i used 238 Offset, you should change offset first.
  2. 00:04:524 (1,2,1) - kkd fits imo you're right
    00:12:666 (2) - kat done
    00:15:666 (1) - finisher done
    00:18:238 (1) - kat didn't change; I prefer this beat
    00:25:952 (1) - unnecessary finisher!!!!!1111 change to kat done, but now I wonder if that invalidates the other finishers in similar parts of the song
    00:23:809 (3,4,5,6,7) - please change to kdkkd I like this better! done
    00:31:095 (1) - finisher finisher here but not at 01:13:949 (1) ? Either way I don't feel like a finisher is appropriate here
    00:37:523 (3) - kat, almost the clap here hmmm, the vocal's tone definitely becomes deeper here, so I left it as don
    00:44:809 (1) - finisher done
    00:47:380 (1) - kat didn't change, I prefer this beat
    00:50:595 - add a don here? sure
    00:57:238 (1,1) - add kat? I didn't change this... but I'm not sure how to put this in words. It "feels" like the multiple Dons here are right for the "empahsis". I dunno.
    00:58:523 (1) - finisher done
    01:07:094 (1,2) - be a kat done
    01:07:523 (3) - be a don done
    01:10:952 (1,1) - kat didn't change, see above
    01:21:237 (3) - kat done, also changed corresponding note in previous section, 00:37:949 (1) to kat as well
    01:29:380 (3,4) - be a kat
    01:29:809 (5) - be a don didn't change these - why would these be different from the other notes in similar sections?
sorry don't give me kudosu, my mod is incomplete, will finish it later because need to bath LOL
/me go to bathroom
Mystyk
take some stars from me C: I like the map (and the song as well) hope you'll get this ranked!
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime

Mystyk wrote:

take some stars from me C: I like the map (and the song as well) hope you'll get this ranked!
Thank you very much Mystyk! :D
JUDYDANNY
Hello~:3
Here's a Taiko Mod via My Takio Moding Queue as M4M
And sorry, I’m very late. ;w;

My mod is for suggetions. if you dont like, ignore please.
~Taiko~
d is Red Note.
k is Blue Note.
and, D , K is Big Notes .. d,k.
“+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?
[General]
  1. Change volume. very noisy.
    00:00:235 - ~ 00:15:663 - , 02:08:806 - ~ 02:22:520 -. => 60%
    Kiai => 85%
    Without all of them => 70%

  2. All of diffs Density are always very flat.
    And, Difficulty looks
    Kanan=> Futsuu
    Futsuu=> Muzukashii or Hard
    Muzukashii =>Oni.

    I suggest you to Make a decreasing notes.


[Kantan]
  1. not break over 2/1. I suggest you to make a some note deleted for intonation as music ( emphasize to Kiai).
    Example. 00:01:949 -~ 00:15:663 -
  2. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1523144
    00:01:949 - ~~ 00:07:949 - We can hear backsound quiet ,and this part is Intro.
    00:08:806 -~ hear little up to volume. Make little increasing density. But still early to full map as Kantan.
    00:15:663 (17) - ~~~ full mapping on Kiai .
  3. too many Finishers. (saying all of diffs) Very noisy.
    Ex.
  4. 00:24:235 (37,38) – change normal , emphasize to 00:27:663 (42,43,44) -.
  5. 00:34:520 (52) – same normal on 00:31:092 (46) -.
  6. So, I don’t mod for this time. Receiving your reply, I will mod .
[Futsuu]
  1. really densitiy isn’t fit as Futsuu.
  2. You should remap once. Noone cant mod this.
    Example. 00:01:949 -~ 00:28:949 -
    00:02:806 (3,4) – delete,
    00:03:877 (5) – d
    00:04:735 (8) – delete and 00:04:949 (9) – k
    00:07:949 (15) – change normal.

    00:09:020 (17,19) – delete
    00:10:306 (20) – move to 00:09:663 (18) –
    00:10:735 (21) – move 00:10:520 (21) –
    00:12:020 (26) – delete.
    00:13:092 (28,29,30) – k*kk=> kkk*

    00:15:877 (35) – delete,
    00:17:592 (40,44) – delete
    00:20:592 (48,50) – delete
    00:19:520 – delete? for make a break.

    00:22:735 (54) – delete,
    00:24:020 (58,59,60,) – delete, d,d
    00:25:306 (62) – delete
    00:26:377 (64,66) – delete? for make a break emphasize to 00:28:092 (70,71,72) -.
  3. Receiving your reply, I will mod again.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:03:877 (8) – move 00:03:663 (8) - . can hear backsound . emphashize to 00:05:377 (14) -
  2. 00:08:162 (25,26,27,28) - ddk****d =>**kkk*d or 25,26 delete. make a intonation as 00:07:949 (24) - sound long tone . and can hear synthesizer more simple 00:08:485 - than 00:08:163 -.
  3. 00:21:878 (85,86,87) – same as above.
  4. 00:12:020 (45) – delete, as long tone intonation.
  5. 00:16:735 (61) – delete, make a break.
  6. 00:17:163 (62,64) – same as above.
  7. Either
    00:23:592 (93) – delete same previous suggestion.
    or
    00:23:163 (91,92) – how about (d, delete) & 00:24:020 (94) – d ? make a variation. fit as backbase follow.
  8. 00:31:735 (121) – delete?
  9. 00:32:270 (123,127) - ^
  10. 00:36:449 (140) - ^
  11. 00:41:163 (162) - ^
  12. 00:42:235 (164,166) – sounds noisy, unnecessary finisher.
  13. 00:44:806 (176) - ~ 01:13:949 (301) –
    make a same density, refer to 00:15:663 - ~~ 00:31:092 -.
  14. 01:13:949 (301) -~ 01:27:663 (364) -
    make a same density, refer to 00:31:092 - ~~ 00:44:806 –
  15. 01:27:663 (364) - ~ 01:55:092 (489) - ^. (1/4 kdk seems to not good at Muzukashii. )
  16. 01:57:235 (495) – k emphashize to 01:57:556 (496) - ~~ dk
  17. 01:58:949 (501,502,503,504,505) – d**dk*k*d => 1/4 delete. and k***d*d*k
  18. 02:04:092 (520) -~~ kdkkd => kdddk
  19. 02:06:342 (529,530) – unnecessary .delete
  20. 02:15:127 (554) – delete. unnecessary on this density.
  21. 02:17:163 (562,570) – delete.
  22. 02:22:520 (571) - ~ 02:36:235 (636) - refer to kiai suggestions.
[Oni]
  1. 00:03:877 (8) – move to 00:03:663 (8) -.
  2. 00:15:020 (67,68) – k , d (change normal)
  3. 00:17:270 (79) – delete.
  4. 00:19:842 (96) – delete. unnecessary.
  5. 00:19:949 (96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107) – kdkkk d k ddk seems to be better, I guess.
  6. 00:25:735 (135) - d, or delete.
  7. 00:28:520 (149) – delete, or change normal.
  8. 00:31:735 (169) – delete. kiai is end. Unnecessary to this note. not climax part.
  9. 00:34:413 (183) –^
  10. 00:38:592 (205) - ^
  11. 00:46:413 (247) – delete.
  12. 00:54:877 (300) - d, or delete.
  13. 00:57:663 (312) – delete or change normal.
  14. 01:00:127 (325) – delete
  15. 01:01:735 (336) – d
  16. 01:03:235 (342) – kdk or kkd
  17. 01:03:663 (345,346,347,348,349) – kkddk or kdddk or kkkdk
  18. 01:05:163 (356) – d, backbase is low.
  19. 01:05:806 (359) – k
  20. 01:08:270 (375) – add d make a intonation as vocal slar.
  21. 01:11:377 (388) - change normal, or delete.
  22. 01:13:949 (404) - ~~ refer to 00:31:092 (165) -~~
  23. 01:27:663 (479) - ~~ refer to 00:44:806 (237) -~~about basis suggestions.
  24. 01:30:663 (500,501) - k~~
  25. 01:30:020 (496,497) – swap.
  26. 01:32:485 (510,511) - (delete, k)
  27. 01:37:413 (541) – add k? vocal slar.
  28. 01:38:913 (547) – delete?
  29. 01:47:056 (596) – delete
  30. 01:51:127 (623) – add d
  31. 02:13:306 (712) - , 02:13:735 (714) – add note… ?
  32. 02:16:842 (729) – delete ,,, feels good, I guess.
  33. 02:18:127 (736) – move 02:18:342 (737) – (k)
  34. 02:18:663 (739,740) – (k, delete)
  35. 02:19:520 (742,744,746,747) - really noisy. Unnecessary finisher ;w;
  36. 02:21:663 (755) – change normal.
  37. 02:22:520 (758) - ~~~ refer to kiai.
  38. umn….
That's all.
if you dont read thishttps://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/152263, I recommend to this guide.
If you change a lot, I will come again.
Good luck!
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime
Hi JuDa!

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello~:3
Here's a Taiko Mod via My Takio Moding Queue as M4M
And sorry, I’m very late. ;w;
No worries; better late than never!
My mod is for suggetions. if you dont like, ignore please.
~Taiko~
d is Red Note.
k is Blue Note.
and, D , K is Big Notes .. d,k.
“+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?
[General]
  1. Change volume. very noisy.
    00:00:235 - ~ 00:15:663 - , 02:08:806 - ~ 02:22:520 -. => 60%
    Kiai => 85%
    Without all of them => 70%
    Changed! I haven't really considered changing volume until now, thanks for pointing this out.
  2. All of diffs Density are always very flat.
    And, Difficulty looks
    Kanan=> Futsuu
    Futsuu=> Muzukashii or Hard
    Muzukashii =>Oni.

    I suggest you to Make a decreasing notes.
    I will try; thanks for the forum link.

[Kantan]
  1. not break over 2/1. I suggest you to make a some note deleted for intonation as music ( emphasize to Kiai).
    Example. 00:01:949 -~ 00:15:663 -
  2. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1523144
    00:01:949 - ~~ 00:07:949 - We can hear backsound quiet ,and this part is Intro.
    00:08:806 -~ hear little up to volume. Make little increasing density. But still early to full map as Kantan.
    00:15:663 (17) - ~~~ full mapping on Kiai . I have changed the beginning part now.
  3. too many Finishers. (saying all of diffs) Very noisy.
    Ex.
  4. 00:24:235 (37,38) – change normal , emphasize to 00:27:663 (42,43,44) -. I have removed some finishers in the map, but I wanted to leave the three finishers in a row at 00:27:663 (42,43,44) - . I deleted the k at 00:27:235 instead; that should make it easier.
  5. 00:34:520 (52) – same normal on 00:31:092 (46) -. Done. I have deleted some notes and removed some finishers throughout the map; please have another look!
  6. So, I don’t mod for this time. Receiving your reply, I will mod .
[Futsuu]
  1. really densitiy isn’t fit as Futsuu.
  2. You should remap once. Noone cant mod this.
    Example. 00:01:949 -~ 00:28:949 -
    00:02:806 (3,4) – delete,
    00:03:877 (5) – d
    00:04:735 (8) – delete and 00:04:949 (9) – k
    00:07:949 (15) – change normal. I've accepted most of these edits and made a couple of revisions of my own to fit the music better; please take a look

    00:09:020 (17,19) – delete
    00:10:306 (20) – move to 00:09:663 (18) –
    00:10:735 (21) – move 00:10:520 (21) –
    00:12:020 (26) – delete.
    00:13:092 (28,29,30) – k*kk=> kkk* I like the timing you suggest with the edits from 00:09:020 to 00:13:092. I accepted these edits.

    00:15:877 (35) – delete, done
    00:17:592 (40,44) – delete I left 00:17:592 (37) in there - I hope it's not too hard, and this is the beat I was going for anyway`
    00:20:592 (48,50) – delete Umm... couldn't find the notes you mentioned. Didn't change.
    00:19:520 – delete? for make a break. Didn't change; it's the main part of the song, so it feels awkward having such a long pause :\ (In contrast, the pause at 00:22:092 - is fine)

    00:22:735 (54) – delete,
    00:24:020 (58,59,60,) – delete, d,d
    00:25:306 (62) – delete
    00:26:377 (64,66) – delete? for make a break emphasize to 00:28:092 (70,71,72) -. As with Kantan, I have made major changes throughout the map.
  3. Receiving your reply, I will mod again.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:03:877 (8) – move 00:03:663 (8) - . can hear backsound . emphashize to 00:05:377 (14) - Mmm... didn't change. I like the "skipping" beat I was going for (skipping, as in the running-like motion)
  2. 00:08:162 (25,26,27,28) - ddk****d =>**kkk*d or 25,26 delete. make a intonation as 00:07:949 (24) - sound long tone . and can hear synthesizer more simple 00:08:485 - than 00:08:163 -. I decided to delete 00:08:162 (25,26,27) - actually.
  3. 00:21:878 (85,86,87) – same as above. Same as above as well, but for this one I didn't delete 00:22:092 (85) - . In the above section the music is quieter, but in the kiai it makes more sense to have more notes.
  4. 00:12:020 (45) – delete, as long tone intonation. done
  5. 00:16:735 (61) – delete, make a break. didn't change; gap feels awkward (though I hope this isn't too hard for Muzukashii)
  6. 00:17:163 (62,64) – same as above. I changed this one, and also deleted 00:18:877
  7. Either
    00:23:592 (93) – delete same previous suggestion.
    or
    00:23:163 (91,92) – how about (d, delete) & 00:24:020 (94) – d ? make a variation. fit as backbase follow. Ooh, I like this second suggestion better! Especially the variation.
  8. 00:31:735 (121) – delete?
  9. 00:32:270 (123,127) - ^
  10. 00:36:449 (140) - ^
  11. 00:41:163 (162) - ^
  12. 00:42:235 (164,166) – sounds noisy, unnecessary finisher. this and the above four - done
  13. 00:44:806 (176) - ~ 01:13:949 (301) –
    make a same density, refer to 00:15:663 - ~~ 00:31:092 -. done
  14. 01:13:949 (301) -~ 01:27:663 (364) -
    make a same density, refer to 00:31:092 - ~~ 00:44:806 – done
  15. 01:27:663 (364) - ~ 01:55:092 (489) - ^. (1/4 kdk seems to not good at Muzukashii. ) The guide says kdk is okay in Muzu, but I changed them to ddk to fit the music anyway. To make it easier I removed some of the surrounding notes.
  16. 01:57:235 (495) – k emphashize to 01:57:556 (496) - ~~ dk
  17. 01:58:949 (501,502,503,504,505) – d**dk*k*d => 1/4 delete. and k***d*d*k
  18. 02:04:092 (520) -~~ kdkkd => kdddk I took a look at these mods, but then I changed a bunch more stuff in this area as well.
  19. 02:06:342 (529,530) – unnecessary .delete done
  20. 02:15:127 (554) – delete. unnecessary on this density. Done; I agree, since the music is quieter here anyway.
  21. 02:17:163 (562,570) – delete. done
  22. 02:22:520 (571) - ~ 02:36:235 (636) - refer to kiai suggestions.

    I have also made minor edits in other places.

[Oni]
  1. 00:03:877 (8) – move to 00:03:663 (8) -. Didn't change, see Muzu
  2. 00:15:020 (67,68) – k , d (change normal) Done
  3. 00:17:270 (79) – delete. Done
  4. 00:19:842 (96) – delete. unnecessary. Done
  5. 00:19:949 (96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107) – kdkkk d k ddk seems to be better, I guess. This one was tricky... I have decided to leave the first five as kdddk, but I took your suggestion for ddk and made a few other changes in this area.
  6. 00:25:735 (135) - d, or delete. deleted
  7. 00:28:520 (149) – delete, or change normal. Didn't change, though I really considered this one; in the end I felt that it made sense to emphasize this part of the song with several finishers in a row. I will change if others don't like it.
  8. 00:31:735 (169) – delete. kiai is end. Unnecessary to this note. not climax part.
  9. 00:34:413 (183) –^
  10. 00:38:592 (205) - ^ this and the above two - done
  11. 00:46:413 (247) – delete. done
  12. 00:54:877 (300) - d, or delete. deleted
  13. 00:57:663 (312) – delete or change normal. not changed, see above
  14. 01:00:127 (325) – delete deleted
  15. 01:01:735 (336) – d I have actually gone and deleted this one as well
  16. 01:03:235 (342) – kdk or kkd I decided to use kdd, actually
  17. 01:03:663 (345,346,347,348,349) – kkddk or kdddk or kkkdk changed to kkkdk
  18. 01:05:163 (356) – d, backbase is low. done
  19. 01:05:806 (359) – k done
  20. 01:08:270 (375) – add d make a intonation as vocal slar. good idea! done
  21. 01:11:377 (388) - change normal, or delete. not changed, see above
  22. 01:13:949 (404) - ~~ refer to 00:31:092 (165) -~~ done
  23. 01:27:663 (479) - ~~ refer to 00:44:806 (237) -~~about basis suggestions. done
  24. 01:30:663 (500,501) - k~~ done
  25. 01:30:020 (496,497) – swap. didn't change; for this part (and the beginning of the chorus sections elsewhere), I wanted to be consistent. Swapping only here would throw off that consistency, and I like the beat as it is anyway.
  26. 01:32:485 (510,511) - (delete, k) didn't change; the vocals don't go silent on 01:32:485 so it's fine
  27. 01:37:413 (541) – add k? vocal slar. I actually changed this part to ddddk instead.
  28. 01:38:913 (547) – delete? done
  29. 01:47:056 (596) – delete done
  30. 01:51:127 (623) – add d done
  31. 02:13:306 (712) - , 02:13:735 (714) – add note… ? nah; I wanted to emphasize the vocals here - this section is quieter, and not hitting notes really makes the vocals stand out
  32. 02:16:842 (729) – delete ,,, feels good, I guess. moved it to 02:17:270 (725) - and changed a few other notes in the area. There are now triplets starting at 02:15:877 (717) - , 02:16:735 (722) - , and 02:18:449 (731) - .
  33. 02:18:127 (736) – move 02:18:342 (737) – (k) see above
  34. 02:18:663 (739,740) – (k, delete) done
  35. 02:19:520 (742,744,746,747) - really noisy. Unnecessary finisher ;w; meh... okay, fine, I changed it :P . I guess I like finishers a lot.
  36. 02:21:663 (755) – change normal. okay
  37. 02:22:520 (758) - ~~~ refer to kiai. okay
  38. umn….
That's all.
if you dont read thishttps://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/152263, I recommend to this guide.
If you change a lot, I will come again.
Good luck!
Thank you very much for your mod! It was very thorough. I have accepted most of your edits. If you have time, please take another look.

Regards,
NP
Akiyama Mizuki
Wow, I love this song.

Kantan
SPOILER
00:25:092 (31) - k
01:55:092 (164) - D
02:01:949 (175) - d

Futsuu
SPOILER
00:19:520 (39) - k
01:55:092 (297) - D

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:30:449 (89) - k
01:13:306 (246) - ^

Oni
SPOILER
00:05:377 (12) - d
00:15:020 (65) - k
00:30:342 (158,160) - d
01:13:199 (400,402) - ^
01:45:235 (583) - k

Sorry for being late!
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime

bbj0920 wrote:

Wow, I love this song. ^_^

Kantan
SPOILER
00:25:092 (31) - k okay. I guess it was d because I didn't want three k's in a row, then I noticed 2nd was finisher orz (editor pls)
01:55:092 (164) - D okay
02:01:949 (175) - d okay

Futsuu
SPOILER
00:19:520 (39) - k Vocals definitely drop in tone here, so this can't be k. (I changed 00:20:378 (41,42) - to d k instead)
01:55:092 (297) - D okay

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:30:449 (89) - k
01:13:306 (246) - ^ both ok.

Oni
SPOILER
00:05:377 (12) - d okay
00:15:020 (65) - k okay
00:30:342 (158,160) - d
01:13:199 (400,402) - ^ both okay. (ignore this, this is a rant --> at this point I was debating whether 01:13:520 - and 00:30:663 - should be d in all diffs, as I had just noticed that weird drop sound... but I guess k is okay; it just "feels" good for the map to not drop to d, I dunno)
01:45:235 (583) - changed 01:45:127 (582,583) - to d d instead

Sorry for being late! Well, better late than never!
Thanks very much for your mod, bbj!

-NP
Evening
Mod from qhueehue

[Oni]

00:19:413 (91,92) - Swap | I don't think a kat on 92 will sound good since most of your kats are on 1/2s
00:25:306 (130) - d > k | I suggest to vary the kat pattern a bit here, the kay rhythm here repeated 4 times on 00:22:949 (115,116,120,121,126,127,132,133) -
00:42:235 (222,224) - KK > kk | I don't think finishes are needed here, this part is rather soft compared to the other parts of the music
01:04:306 (349) - d > k | The 3 notes here 01:04:092 (348,349,350) - seems to be at the same pitch I would suggest a triple kat here
00:31:092 - AND 01:13:949 - looks exactly the same..? I would suggest to vary the kat rhythms
01:32:592 (511) - d > k | For vocals
01:57:877 (648,649) - Swap | I would suggest to end the kat rhythm on a white line instead, it sound better
02:04:734 (680,681) - Swap | ^
02:19:949 (739,741) - KK > kk | Don't think finishes are needed here

00:22:413 (111,112) - dd > - D | I would suggest to emphasize this note, your current pattern pretty much just overlaps this, I suggest to follow the music more here
02:01:842 (669,670) - Same thing here | I would suggest to have a k on 670 or just use a D

The kat rhythm on the kiai time is rather monotonous imo due it being on a 1/2 most of the time, also due to the kiai repeating 6 times | I would suggest to use some 1/4 kat rhythms.

[Muzu]

This difficulty jump from muzu to oni is rather extreme, I would suggest to add some harder patterns here or decrease the streams on oni
00:22:520 (59) - d > D | Since you used a finish on 00:19:092 (47) - you might want to use a 8/1 finish pattern on the kiai time
00:30:235 (86,87) - kk > dd OR 00:30:663 (88) - k > d | This is to differentiate it from Note 88
01:13:092 (245,246,247) - ^
00:37:306 (113,114,115) - kkd > ddk OR kdk | I would suggest to end the kat rhythm on a white line
01:20:163 (272,273,274) - ^

*Suggesting some addition of notes to make the spread from muzu to oni better
00:04:949 - You might want to add a k here for vocals
00:36:020 - Might want to add a k or d for vocals
00:46:306 - Add a k here?
00:52:735 - Add a don here for vocals
01:00:020 - Add a k for vocals
01:06:449 - Add a d for vocals
01:18:877 - k
*Applies to all kiai times if the pattern repeats

[Futsuu]

00:30:235 (65,66,67) - Same as Muzu, make it ddk or kkd
01:13:092 (181,182,183) - ^
00:36:877 - Add a k here for vocals, it fits rather nicely | It's a simple pattern, I don't think it's going to cause much problem for futsuu players
01:19:735 - ^
01:05:806 (162) - d > k | Pitch map
01:09:235 - Add k | I don't think a break is suitable here
02:19:092 (351) - I think you should half this slider and change that portion to a spinner, it creates some variation, it's easier for futsuu also imo

[Kantan]
00:29:377 (37) - Don't think you should be using any sliders in Kantan, they are rather fast, replace them with notes or spinners
01:12:235 (101) - ^
01:13:949 (102) - maybe a finisher here?
02:27:663 (213,214) - These finishers are not needed imo


The OD and HP is constant for all diff.s? You might want to have a spread for that

Good luck owo/
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime
<response to mod under construction, please hold>
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime

lZenxl wrote:

Mod from qhueehue

[Oni]

00:19:413 (91,92) - Swap | I don't think a kat on 92 will sound good since most of your kats are on 1/2s :arrow: done
00:25:306 (130) - d > k | I suggest to vary the kat pattern a bit here, the kay rhythm here repeated 4 times on 00:22:949 (115,116,120,121,126,127,132,133) - :arrow: changed 00:24:449 - to k instead; still varying kat pattern
00:42:235 (222,224) - KK > kk | I don't think finishes are needed here, this part is rather soft compared to the other parts of the music :arrow: done
01:04:306 (349) - d > k | The 3 notes here 01:04:092 (348,349,350) - seems to be at the same pitch I would suggest a triple kat here :arrow: There is an inflection on this note, so they're not the same pitch.
00:31:092 - AND 01:13:949 - looks exactly the same..? I would suggest to vary the kat rhythms :arrow: Yes, they're the same on purpose; I was wondering when someone would bring this up because this has been bothering me and I need advice :P . I really wanted SOME variance between these two non-kiai sections, but they have pretty much the same pitch changes and emphases throughout; making a small change between them would throw off consistency since the two sections sound so similar.
01:32:592 (511) - d > k | For vocals :arrow: done, also changed some surrounding notes to fit the pitch better
01:57:877 (648,649) - Swap | I would suggest to end the kat rhythm on a white line instead, it sound better
02:04:734 (680,681) - Swap | ^ :arrow: Didn't change these two because this beat was intentional and it sorta echoes the music in the background. HOWEVER due to your mod I have now been paying more attention to kat rhythms, so I did change other notes
02:19:949 (739,741) - KK > kk | Don't think finishes are needed here :arrow: done

00:22:413 (111,112) - dd > - D | I would suggest to emphasize this note, your current pattern pretty much just overlaps this, I suggest to follow the music more here :arrow: good point, though I made it d instead of D (as mentioned in the note in the Muzu diff)
02:01:842 (669,670) - Same thing here | I would suggest to have a k on 670 or just use a D :arrow: okay

The kat rhythm on the kiai time is rather monotonous imo due it being on a 1/2 most of the time, also due to the kiai repeating 6 times | I would suggest to use some 1/4 kat rhythms. :arrow: in general I feel it's fine the way it is, but we'll see how others feel about the beat

[Muzu]

This difficulty jump from muzu to oni is rather extreme, I would suggest to add some harder patterns here or decrease the streams on oni
00:22:520 (59) - d > D | Since you used a finish on 00:19:092 (47) - you might want to use a 8/1 finish pattern on the kiai time :arrow: Nah; normally I would like to keep consistent patterns like that, but here it's fine since the vocals aren't very emphasized
00:30:235 (86,87) - kk > dd OR 00:30:663 (88) - k > d | This is to differentiate it from Note 88
01:13:092 (245,246,247) - ^ :arrow: both done
00:37:306 (113,114,115) - kkd > ddk OR kdk | I would suggest to end the kat rhythm on a white line
01:20:163 (272,273,274) - ^ :arrow: both done

*Suggesting some addition of notes to make the spread from muzu to oni better
00:04:949 - You might want to add a k here for vocals :arrow: Didn't change; I prefer to keep the consistent beat that I have
00:36:020 - Might want to add a k or d for vocals :arrow: done
00:46:306 - Add a k here? :arrow: Didn't change, also for keeping the beat
00:52:735 - Add a don here for vocals :arrow: I did some significant remapping in these areas
01:00:020 - Add a k for vocals :arrow: Didn't change (see above)
01:06:449 - Add a d for vocals :arrow: More significant remapping (also I think the vocals from 01:06:235 - to 01:06:449 - are at a constant high pitch so kkk should be used here instead of d's)
01:18:877 - k :arrow: Also didn't change due to pitch and personal preference
*Applies to all kiai times if the pattern repeats

[Futsuu]

00:30:235 (65,66,67) - Same as Muzu, make it ddk or kkd :arrow: kkd it is!
01:13:092 (181,182,183) - ^ :arrow: ^
00:36:877 - Add a k here for vocals, it fits rather nicely | It's a simple pattern, I don't think it's going to cause much problem for futsuu players :arrow: You read my mind; I was wondering whether this pattern is okay for futsuu. I guess it fits nicely though!
01:19:735 - ^ :arrow: ^
01:05:806 (162) - d > k | Pitch map :arrow: Ehhh, this was a hard decision. Initially I wasn't gonna change this; I thought the pitch didn't go high enough to warrant a k. But after a while I decided to go with it, especially since 00:53:377 (131,132) - means one pair of dons too many if I don't change (the fact that you didn't point out 00:52:092 (127) - made me think this wasn't a clear-cut decision).
01:09:235 - Add k | I don't think a break is suitable here :arrow: okay; I also added notes in similar parts in the other kiais; hopefully this few breaks in the futsuu is fine
02:19:092 (351) - I think you should half this slider and change that portion to a spinner, it creates some variation, it's easier for futsuu also imo :arrow: Interesting idea! Changed.

[Kantan]
00:29:377 (37) - Don't think you should be using any sliders in Kantan, they are rather fast, replace them with notes or spinners :arrow: Sure, I'll use note :P (in the beginning I thought there'd be too much idle time but I guess it's okay for Kantan
01:12:235 (101) - ^ :arrow: ^
01:13:949 (102) - maybe a finisher here? :arrow: Nah, else I'd need a finisher at 00:31:092 (38) - as well; music gets quieter in these parts and I didn't want too many finishers
02:27:663 (213,214) - These finishers are not needed imo :arrow: Changed so that beat matches other kiais


The OD and HP is constant for all diff.s? You might want to have a spread for that :arrow: done

Good luck owo/
Thank you for your well-explained mod, lZenxl! I hope others give more mods like yours :D (Sorry for the late follow-up, lots of irl stuff happened.)
wasonz
From my queue

My suggestion ~
remove that flash kiai

Muzukashii
00:12:235 (23) - remove finish
00:15:020 (35) - k
00:26:377 (77) - k
00:44:163 (147) - add k
00:53:163 (180) - k
00:54:235 (186) - k
00:55:520 (189) - k
01:08:806 (239) - K
01:16:949 (268) - d
01:17:377 (269,270) - Ctrl+G
01:27:020 (310) - add k

Oni
00:00:235 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - my suggestion ~

00:30:663 (160) - d
00:49:949 (266,267,268,269,270) - kkddk
00:55:949 (299,300,301,302,303) - dkkdk
00:58:306 (312) - add k
01:12:020 (391) - add d
01:13:520 (404) - d
01:25:949 (469,470,471,472,473,474,475) -
01:31:949 (506,507,508,509,510,511,512) -
01:41:163 (559) - add k
01:54:877 (640) - add k
01:58:092 (655) -
01:59:913 (666) - 02:00:020 (667) - add d
02:03:127 (684) - 02:03:342 (686) - 02:03:449 (687) - add d
02:05:913 (698) - k
02:08:163 (708) - 02:08:377 (709) - 02:08:592 (710) - add k
02:15:235 (732) - add k
02:36:020 (856) - add k

You will gain 1 kudosu for this post if it is deemed as helpful by the map's creator.

orz Why other has gain 2

Good Luck ~ :)
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime
From my queue

My suggestion ~
remove that flash kiai :arrow: Eh, sure. I originally added kiai breaks to make the map more "dynamic" and counter the repetitiveness in the music, but I suppose it doesn't really add much value anymore (and then I read about how people don't like overtoggling anyway).

Muzukashii
00:12:235 (23) - remove finish :arrow: okay
00:15:020 (35) - k :arrow: okay
00:26:377 (77) - k :arrow: good catch; okay
00:44:163 (147) - add k :arrow: okay
00:53:163 (180) - k :arrow: Nah, sorry. It's a close one, though, but I like the beat I have here. (otherwise too many k's in a row)
00:54:235 (186) - k :arrow: okay
00:55:520 (189) - k :arrow: okay
01:08:806 (239) - K :arrow: changed 01:09:234 (240) - to k instead
01:16:949 (268) - d :arrow: didn't change; pitch doesn't really go that deep (though I did change some notes in this section to be different from that between 00:31:092 - and 00:44:806 - )
01:17:377 (269,270) - Ctrl+G :arrow: okay
01:27:020 (310) - add k :arrow: already done

Oni
00:00:235 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - my suggestion ~
:arrow: No, note density is too high; I was aiming for a calm intro, sorry.
00:30:663 (160) - d :arrow: okay (this is a mod over previous mod, but after playing music at 75% d should make more sense)
00:49:949 (266,267,268,269,270) - kkddk :arrow: okay
00:55:949 (299,300,301,302,303) - dkkdk :arrow: didn't change; first note feels like it should be k anyway
00:58:306 (312) - add k :arrow: Nah, I like the pause
01:12:020 (391) - add d :arrow: no change, same as above
01:13:520 (404) - d :arrow: okay
01:25:949 (469,470,471,472,473,474,475) - :arrow: Eh, I feel no need to change this, plus keeping this consistent with the other non-kiai is okay
01:31:949 (506,507,508,509,510,511,512) - :arrow: Nope, again the first note feels like it should be k due to pitch
01:41:163 (559) - add k :arrow: no change for pauses
01:54:877 (640) - add k :arrow: ^
01:58:092 (655) - :arrow: That... is an interesting idea, actually. Unfortunately I'm not changing this part, BUT I will consider this later on if I decide to remap this section, which has been one of the trickiest ones so far (since it doesn't strictly follow the music).
01:59:913 (666) - 02:00:020 (667) - add d :arrow: No, I omit notes in this section on a regular basis as part of the beat that I'm trying to establish. Thus, no notes here.
02:03:127 (684) - 02:03:342 (686) - 02:03:449 (687) - add d :arrow: As above, I will consider this later on
02:05:913 (698) - k :arrow: no change, establishing my beat
02:08:163 (708) - 02:08:377 (709) - 02:08:592 (710) - add k :arrow: still no change, same reason
02:15:235 (732) - add k :arrow: still no change, ^
02:36:020 (856) - add k :arrow: ^, ^

You will gain 1 kudosu for this post if it is deemed as helpful by the map's creator.

orz Why other has gain 2 :arrow: No idea, all I can do is click on the "Give Kudos" link, and I can't specify how many :\ . I would give two if I could!

Good Luck ~ :)
Thank you for your mod, [I]MMoRTal[S]! Though I didn't make some of the changes you suggested, you did prompt me to look over all my diffs and make some tweaks, so your mod has been quite helpful. :)
Konpaku Sariel
Oni
00:02:592 (3) - add k
00:03:449 (7) - add d
00:07:735 (23,24) - dk

00:08:806 (30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - dkd_k_d_ddk_k_d

00:10:520 (40,41,42,43) - ddd_k or ddddk

00:11:163 (44,50) - d

00:12:877 (54) - add d

00:19:735 (96,97) - kd

00:26:592 (139) - add d

00:28:949 (151) - k

02:04:735 (684) - add d
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime

Konpaku Sariel wrote:

Oni
00:02:592 (3) - add k :arrow: okay
00:03:449 (7) - add d :arrow: okay
00:07:735 (23,24) - dk :arrow: okay

00:08:806 (30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - dkd_k_d_ddk_k_d :arrow: I prefer the 1-3-1-1-3 beat I was going with, though I did change it to d_ddk_k_d_kkd_k to match the vocals.

00:10:520 (40,41,42,43) - ddd_k or ddddk :arrow: ddd_k okay

00:11:163 (44,50) - d :arrow: okay

00:12:877 (54) - add d :arrow: okay

00:19:735 (96,97) - kd :arrow: okay

00:26:592 (139) - add d :arrow: deleted 00:26:270 (137) - instead

00:28:949 (151) - k :arrow: okay, and I also edited similar parts in the other kiais

02:04:735 (684) - add d :arrow: No, going for a consistent beat here
Thank you for the mod Konpaku!
tetsutaro
Taiko Tension Queue
continues to be lazy and not putting banners

[Infrastructure]
:idea: Background: move up to show girl's face. Manually change the last number in this line, in case you don't know:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
:!: Source: Lucent Heart
:!: Tags: also refer to original, sans the guest mappers

[Difficulty]
:idea: Perceived ratings:
<Kantan> 2* (try reffing Bad Apple feat. nomico)
<Futsuu> 6* (ref: more than Polyrhythm) = 4* Muzukashii
<Muzu> 6* <-- best map of the bunch IMO
<Oni> 8*
:!: Lacks deserved consistency in <Kantan> and <Futsuu>
:!: <Oni> Hard to justify some longer 16th patterns like 02:24:234 (765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776), which is without percussion or lyrical basis

Today's tip jar: 184231. KILLERBLOOD - Just A Trip
Topic Starter
Narwhal Prime

tetsutaro wrote:

Taiko Tension Queue
continues to be lazy and not putting banners :arrow: aren't we all :P

[Infrastructure]
:idea: Background: move up to show girl's face. Manually change the last number in this line, in case you don't know: :arrow: Nope, didn't know that. Shifted image down, thanks a bunch!
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
:!: Source: Lucent Heart :arrow: okay (TIL this song is some other game music o_O . I just like this song so I picked it for mapping)
:!: Tags: also refer to original, sans the guest mappers :arrow: Added Luerxa to tags (mp3 is directly copied from that player's map)

[Difficulty]
:idea: Perceived ratings:
<Kantan> 2* (try reffing Bad Apple feat. nomico)
<Futsuu> 6* (ref: more than Polyrhythm) = 4* Muzukashii
<Muzu> 6* <-- best map of the bunch IMO
<Oni> 8*
:!: Lacks deserved consistency in <Kantan> and <Futsuu>
:!: <Oni> Hard to justify some longer 16th patterns like 02:24:234 (765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776), which is without percussion or lyrical basis

:arrow: me: "why are easy difficulties so hard to map ;_;"
:arrow: But yeah, I looked at the videos you referenced, and I noted that I tend to avoid the repetitiveness displayed in the beginning of both maps. But I suppose that's necessary to "set the beat" (perhaps?) and goes well with a calm intro. I'm gonna make a few tweaks to try and account for that. I do know of some awkward parts in Futsuu and Oni at least that I can improve upon.
:arrow: Although I'm curious as to why you perceived Futsuu's difficulty to be so high (I didn't even put any 1/8 triplets but it could be me naively thinking that absence of that automatically means Futsuu)

Today's tip jar: 184231. KILLERBLOOD - Just A Trip :arrow: Though I have a modding queue of my own, I will check out your map sometime. :)
Thanks very much for you mod tetsutaro!
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