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I feel slightly uneasy about this plan (as it invloves lynching me, who I personally know to be a cop) but we shouldn't really enact it yet, and play this like any other mafia game.
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It's just you voting SFG...
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adam2046 wrote:
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Guess who's also cop.
Guess who also scanned Echo.
Guess who found him innocent.

(It's me if you couldn't guess)

Ding: Points for Echo


Uhh... if you're not voting try not to bold (unless it's very obvious -_-)
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If I was voting Echo, I would have said it somewhere.
It was quite obvious I was reffering to this:
Echo wrote:
Oho, let me guess

Adam's going to claim cop and say he investigated me and found me innocent.
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Oh that.

...This isn't a fucking gameshow -_-

Anyway, vote maintained.
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OK, here's the twist for this game. I'll clearly explain my trap, how it failed, how I changed tactics, and what information it gave me.

The moment I received strager's pm and read that I'm cop, I suspected there was something fishy about my role and, knowing the existence of sane/insane/naive/paranoid cops, I decided the smartest thing to do Night 0 would be to scan myself, just in case I happened to be insane.

That's right, I, as a cop, scanned myself and turned up innocent.

After SFG made the first post in the game, I knew my suspicions were correct, just like 0_o did. However, because I knew this, unlike 0_o who came blurting out with the idea of cops with different sanities, I gambled on the person posting after me being scum, and therefore claimed Miller in order to make them think this was a standard game. Unfortunately, 0_o posted at pretty much the same time which, although ruining the trap, proved to me that he himself is not scum.

I attempted to salvage the trap, but realising it was too late, I encouraged everyone to claim cop instead. This way, with a full array of investigations, we can easily detect who the mafia is.

I'm pretty much 100% confident of the innocence of both SFG and 0_o because they both claimed cop at a time when the mafia would not have realised what was going on in this game.

Therefore, the guilt lies with either Pasonia or adam. This is further reinforced by the fact that my scan on myself turned up innocent. Since we all scanned me, there should be two guilty verdicts (insane/paranoid) and two innocent verdicts (sane/naive). We now know that SFG/0_o are insane/paranoid cops, and that myself and one of Pasonia/adam are sane/naive cops. The other one of the two is obviously mafia, who checked the thread late and picked up on what was happening.

At this stage in the game, there is no reason to believe either one of them is more scummy than the other. Since I didn't claim, it was too obvious a thing for the mafia to say he scanned me and found me innocent, since there were already two guilty verdicts.

Still - either Pasonia or adam is mafia. Since we have two lynches total in this game, we've basically won. Any objections to just lynching them one after the other?

(ps. @pasonia: miller is an innocent who turns up guilty to a sane cop)
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Weird. So, wait, if I'm sane and I'm a cop, you're innocent for sure, since you're not even a miller.
THEN THAT DOES IT. You're clear. And I'm a sane cop. I didn't have anything attached to me role, not even a prefix or suffix to the role of Cop.

And since I know you're innocent based on the results from Mr. Host, my vote now changes to adam2046.

Echo I think everyone's just afraid of you. For fuck's sake, EVERYONE SCANNED YOU.
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Actually Pas, either you or Echo is likely naive (Innocent results every time). Cops are never told their sanities in their role PM, they always have to find out themselves.

nonetheless

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im inclined to believe 0_o is innocent

im not so inclined to believe that ECHO is innocent, based on what i said earlier - the easiest way for the mafia to win is to lead the town off of a cliff while happily giving us every logical reason to walk of said cliff. In case you guys didnt notice, THAT JUST HAPPENED.

on the other hand his point about adam/pasonia is kinda true and since i already suspected Pasonia due to his not only (possibly) BEING insane but due to his insane logic in his posts, im making a tentative vote on Pasonia. This will be revoked if Pasonia can actually defend his post to me in a reasonable manner instead of just blowing it off.

also you guys have attacked me every game for what you call "wishy-washy voting" - notice that i do that every game, whether i am town or not. thats just how i play. ok?
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Saturos-fangirl wrote:
im inclined to believe 0_o is innocent

im not so inclined to believe that ECHO is innocent, based on what i said earlier - the easiest way for the mafia to win is to lead the town off of a cliff while happily giving us every logical reason to walk of said cliff. In case you guys didnt notice, THAT JUST HAPPENED.

on the other hand his point about adam/pasonia is kinda true and since i already suspected Pasonia due to his not only (possibly) BEING insane but due to his insane logic in his posts, im making a tentative vote on Pasonia. This will be revoked if Pasonia can actually defend his post to me in a reasonable manner instead of just blowing it off.

also you guys have attacked me every game for what you call "wishy-washy voting" - notice that i do that every game, whether i am town or not. thats just how i play. ok?


When Echo said your guilty vote was tied to your role and prefixed sanity, it sounded plausible. After all, you did speak with certainty that you're a Cop, though your verdict on him was nigh completely mistaken.

Conversely adam was very far on the backfoot and only dared to reply at the end, while I was sure I spoke with (mistaken) conviction. LOL.
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Pasonia wrote:
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
im inclined to believe 0_o is innocent

im not so inclined to believe that ECHO is innocent, based on what i said earlier - the easiest way for the mafia to win is to lead the town off of a cliff while happily giving us every logical reason to walk of said cliff. In case you guys didnt notice, THAT JUST HAPPENED.

on the other hand his point about adam/pasonia is kinda true and since i already suspected Pasonia due to his not only (possibly) BEING insane but due to his insane logic in his posts, im making a tentative vote on Pasonia. This will be revoked if Pasonia can actually defend his post to me in a reasonable manner instead of just blowing it off.

also you guys have attacked me every game for what you call "wishy-washy voting" - notice that i do that every game, whether i am town or not. thats just how i play. ok?


When Echo said your guilty vote was tied to your role and prefixed sanity, it sounded plausible. After all, you did speak with certainty that you're a Cop, though your verdict on him was nigh completely mistaken.

Conversely adam was very far on the backfoot and only dared to reply at the end, while I was sure I spoke with (mistaken) conviction. LOL.



the post that i made, and the post that YOU made, both occured before Echo said anything about my sanity. kthnxbai.
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OK, here's what I think we should do

First we lynch Pas or adam tonight, it doesn't really matter
Then, SFG and I scan ourselves tonight. I just say us because we are the only ones who I believe we can all trust.
I believe it is safe to say that Echo is not the miller, since he has no reason to claim cop now if he was. Now I am under the assumption that there are 4 cops of 4 sanities: Sane (all correct results), Naive (all Not Guilty results), Paranoid (all Guilty results), and Insane (all opposite results). Since SFG and I both got a guilty reading of Echo, this means that one of us is paranoid, and the other is either Insane or Sane.
-If Echo is innocent, then SFG and I are paranoid and Insane, and we will both turn guilty results on ourselves
-If Echo is mafia, then we are paranoid and sane, and one of us will turn an innocent result on themselves.

If Echo is innocent, then we lynch whoever is left over from adam and Pas
If Echo is mafia, then, well, we lynch Echo :P

This is all under the assumption that there are 4 different sanities of cops playing of course. Thoughts?
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i had already been planning on scanning myself this coming night. while i believe that it is risky to gamble on the setup of the game when we have very little way of showing what roles were ACTUALLY used in the making of this game. However i do agree it is easiest to figure out the true roles of the people who turned up guilty results since only one person should turn up guilty.

i guess it goes without saying that the cops who find innocent should scan someone they think is guilty tonight lol. We've already covered Echo very VERY thoroughly and i think that we're lucky that we DID all scan the same person ;o even ECHO scanned Echo lol. *is still laughing her head off about how everyone scanned Echo*

on a side note if strager is doing it for the lulz like he appears to be, im probably insane ;o since everyone knows how crazy i am~ well ill find out tonight if i dont get lynched or NK'd.
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thought: i think we still get the same number of lynches before LyLo and such if we dont lynch today
D1: no lynch, 5 alive, 1 mafia
N1: 4 alive, 1 mafia
D2: one lynch, 3 alive, 1 mafia
N2: 2 alive, 1 mafia
D3: two lynches, 1 alive, 1 mafia (aka LyLo)

as opposed to
D1: one lynch, 4 alive, 1 mafia
N1: 3 alive, 1 mafia
D2: two lynches, 3 alive, 1 mafia
N2: 2 alive, 1 mafia
D3: three lynches, 1 alive, 1 mafia (aka LyLo)

ok my thought was wrong but it brings up something interesting. if myself and 0_o are innocent, cant we just lynch the other three? it doesnt work if me and 0_o are the two NK's but...

thoughts?
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