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Never Shout Never - Can't Stand It

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Topic Starter
Shiro
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mardi 20 mai 2014 at 10:12:05

Artist: Never Shout Never
Title: Can't Stand It
Tags: Odaril what is love Xgor indie
BPM: 126
Filesize: 7107kb
Play Time: 02:48
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,44 stars, 242 notes)
  2. Insane (4,93 stars, 411 notes)
  3. Xgor's Normal (3,02 stars, 202 notes)
Download: Never Shout Never - Can't Stand It
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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24th map. I tried a slightly different approach to mapping for this one, which lead to this being slightly overmapped. >.<

Song was shown to me by Mystyk, who kindly provided a mp3 for this. Thanks also to ziptofaf for the background. Huge thanks to Xgor for his awesome Normal.

Hitsounds were entirely made by me so you need to ask for permission if you want to use them.

1/3 mapping, woah. This was so hard to map <_<. The map has so much symmetry wtf T.T
Pushed AR to 9 because it plays better, but I kept OD at 7. As much as I hate that kind of setting, it's necessary for this map because it's 1/3 rhythm, which is already awkward, and the timing gets really weird at times, so OD8 would make this too uncomfortable to play. Thanks a lot to Frostmourne, dkun and (especially) Darksonic for help with that.

15 favourites while pending. (o_O?)
Topic Starter
Shiro
Changelog.

  1. 08/17:
    Uploaded.
  2. 11/08
    Added Xgor's Normal.
  3. 12/15:
    Finished Hard.
    Moved to Pending.
  4. 01/10:
    Fixes according to Thor's and Klaun's mods.
  5. 01/28:
    Fixes according to Hula's mod.
  6. 02/11:
    Fixes according to Sonnyc's mod.
    Fixes according to smallboat's mod.
  7. 02/12:
    Fixes according to Irreversible's mod.
  8. 03/21:
    Fixes according to BeatOfIke's mod.
    Timing revamp. Pushed AR to 9 (see description).
  9. 04/09:
    Bubbled by BeatOfIke.
  10. 04/17:
    Fixes according to YGOkid8's mod.
  11. 04/29:
    More timing updates. Thanks YGOkid8, ktgster and Lust.
    Re-bubbled by YGOkid8.
  12. 05/09:
    Yet another timing change. Thanks Charles445.
  13. 05/11:
    Rebubbled by Irreversible.
  14. 05/16:
    Fixes according to DakeDekaane's mod.
  15. 05/19:
    Rebubbled by DakeDekaane.
  16. 05/20:
    Fixes according to Atrue's mod.
    Qualified by Atrue.
  17. 05/27:
    Ranked!
grumd
dat jumpy parts are epic. never missed on them on the first try, and they fit so much. gj!
Lolicakey
Finally someone decided to map this ♥ I'd like to make a gd ;w;
don't forget add into tags "What is love?" it's the album of the song owo good luck
Topic Starter
Shiro

Lolicakes wrote:

Finally someone decided to map this ♥ I'd like to make a gd ;w;
don't forget add into tags "What is love?" it's the album of the song owo good luck
Thanks for the tags. You can make a guest of whatever level if you want, but I'm very very very very picky, so there's a chance I don't include it in the mapset. >.<
Jaxalotl
Xgor's Normal
This slider at 00:53:837 goes off my screen - try to sort it out move it around or adjust the beat snap
Another slider going off my screen at this point 01:14:789
02:27:660 - Yet another slider going off my screen
02:31:470 - Slider off the screen

Insane
When your timing changes at this point in the song which is 01:49:075 is this meant to happen, or is it some bug???
Klaun_old
[General]
- Please, remove some of your combo colors, having so many of them isn't neccesary.

[Xgor's Normal]
- All good here.

[Hard]
- Put AR7, might feel better to play
- 00:19:582(4) - Two grids to the left pl0x d:
- 00:38:599(5) - Put that note on x:284 y:60
- 00:43:837(3) - This note doesn't belong here jeeez... Put it on x:256 y:48 ~~
- 01:07:170(1,2) - Why not copy this two notes and make them simmetrical on the otherside? Like this it looks weird.
- 02:30:518(4) - This note doesn't belong here hm.


[Insane]
- 00:10:376(4) - Try to put this note one grid up? Might fit better there.
- 00:13:709 - Why you lowered distance spacing here?
- 01:10:027(3) - I feel like this slider don't belong here. Try to rotate him or just put notes here? Just my opinion
- 01:11:932(5) - Why don't you put that in the position to fit with this: 01:10:821(6) - Would be better
- 02:04:340(1) - Same as above but with: 02:03:226(2)
- 02:08:620(5) - Put this note on x:360 y:156 - Fits better, or not?
Topic Starter
Shiro
Hi hi sorry for the late reply I've been kind of out of osu! for a while >.>
I'm waiting on Xgor's answer on what to do with his diff (whether he wants to apply changes himself or not) so I'll just reply to mine /o/

Thor wrote:

Insane
When your timing changes at this point in the song which is 01:49:075 is this meant to happen, or is it some bug??? That wasn't supposed to be like this at all - thanks for pointing that out !

Klaun wrote:

[General]
- Please, remove some of your combo colors, having so many of them isn't neccesary. They're meant to copy the rainbow in the background, so I see no harm in keeping them.

[Hard]
- Put AR7, might feel better to play Done !
- 00:19:582(4) - Two grids to the left pl0x d: Doing so would break the spacing. I reworked the pattern a bit to make it possible to have symmetry as you suggest.
- 00:38:599(5) - Put that note on x:284 y:60 Wow, no, that completely ruins the spacing D:
- 00:43:837(3) - This note doesn't belong here jeeez... Put it on x:256 y:48 ~~ Changed it to put it on the y axis, but not that high - it would ruin the spacing.
- 01:07:170(1,2) - Why not copy this two notes and make them simmetrical on the otherside? Like this it looks weird. I'm not sure what you mean. Flipping them vertically would ruin the spacing and make the whole pattern weird to play ?
- 02:30:518(4) - This note doesn't belong here hm. It does - it forms a triangle with the end of these two sliders 02:29:565 (2,3) -


[Insane]
- 00:10:376(4) - Try to put this note one grid up? Might fit better there. feels good to me
- 00:13:709 - Why you lowered distance spacing here? ... good question o.O *fixes*
- 01:10:027(3) - I feel like this slider don't belong here. Try to rotate him or just put notes here? Just my opinion It follows the global pattern for the chorus (check the other choruses to see it)
- 01:11:932(5) - Why don't you put that in the position to fit with this: 01:10:821(6) - Would be better It's 01:11:456 (4) - with a centre symmetry, and (6) goes from the centre of the map to drive away from it
- 02:04:340(1) - Same as above but with: 02:03:226(2) same ! Except the note after isn't in the centre of the map :P
- 02:08:620(5) - Put this note on x:360 y:156 - Fits better, or not? no - the pattern wasn't meant to be a flower
Thanks for your mods !
BigWilly
[Normal]

00:11:487 (2) - Try Placing Nearer the Middle of the two sliders
02:01:476 (3) - ^
02:38:613 (3,4,5,6,7) - Make these Hit Circles go round in a rotation

[Hard]

00:09:106 (5) - Move this to the right a little
00:20:535 (7) - Make this more a curve ?
00:38:599 (5) - Place this in the very middle of where the other Hit Circles go in a rotation
01:53:366 (2) - Move this up a bit
01:54:794 (1) - Place this just above and in the middle of the two sliders before

One of the First Hard Maps I have modded. Hope it helps :/

Good Luck!
Hula
'sup.

[General]
SICK SONG MADAFAKKA. LOVING IT. I can't comment on the timing cos i'm useless at that. Not to mention I love the hitsounding ;-;. AND I love your flow Shiro.

Add the tag: Indie rock, since it isn't a genre iirc?

[Xgor's Normal]
00:19:424 (4) - Correct me if I'm wrong, but this lyric sounds like it starts on a red tick, if it does, change the start to that :)

00:33:837 (2) - This isn't actually symmetrical on the y-axis, the slider end is up 3 coord! (kd pls) - grid snap the slider end to x:336 y:152, providing this was the intention.

01:14:789 (1) - haha, this is cool!

01:59:567 (6) - another bit of nazi - you could stack this on the previous (3) ?

02:38:613 (3,4,5,6,7) - I understand why you used lower spacing here, but it's kiai time and the guitar's rocking here, so imo it should stay 1.00x ds to keep up with the rest of the map.

[Hard]
00:20:535 (7) - Not a perfect triangle thing - x:218, y:149 is a better triagnle thing

00:35:265 (2,3) - Rejig these two sliders so they flow into each other better? Looks a bit choppy to me, correct me if this is the intention. Something maybe a bit more perfect than it currently it, like this? http://puu.sh/6tt3Z.jpg

01:55:271 (2) - this is 1.07 DS from last one, don't want to seem nazi, but you've been keeping everything 1.00 in situations like this >_>

02:33:375 (3) - blanket with blue (4) is off!!!

02:39:089 (3) - I think this repeating slider could have a way cooler shape, as it currently doesn't appease my guitar slider needs; i shifted the red point slightly to the left and up iirc and got this - http://puu.sh/6ttoG.jpg

[Insane]

00:21:963 (2,3,4) - Curve these downwards? as the next string of 1/3 single tap is also curved, and imo it'll look flowier. (Will require reshifting of other objects too D:) - I personally rotated the previous slider a bit , then also rotated the slider at the other side. http://puu.sh/6ts1C.jpg - just a very rough example

00:25:297 (1) - This slider start isn't a perfect triangle with the other slider starts. - http://puu.sh/6ts4N.jpg

00:32:885 (1) - Not properly stacked, 1 coord out qq

01:39:868 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You could make this maybe make this play more curvy? Since the it's currently at a bitter sweet part of the song, but yet the current memory he's singing of is actually happy. so, maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/6tsyj.jpg

01:39:868 (2) - also this note doesn't sit on a drum like the rest, not sure if intentional :p
Topic Starter
Shiro

Feverie wrote:

[Normal]

00:11:487 (2) - Try Placing Nearer the Middle of the two sliders I'd like to but it won't be posible because spacing needs to be respected >.<
02:01:476 (3) - ^ same
02:38:613 (3,4,5,6,7) - Make these Hit Circles go round in a rotation Won't be possible either because spacing, also that would kill the symmetry between 02:38:613 (3,4,5) - and 02:39:565 (6,7,8) -

[Hard]

00:09:106 (5) - Move this to the right a little I'm not sure why you want this moved to the right, if it's for the overlap I changed 00:08:630 (4) - a bit instead
00:20:535 (7) - Make this more a curve ? huh I'm not sure that would change anything. I like to vary slidershapes otherwise the map gets visually boring
00:38:599 (5) - Place this in the very middle of where the other Hit Circles go in a rotation not possible because spacing wouldn't be respected D:
01:53:366 (2) - Move this up a bit huh I don't understand why o.O actually okay, it gets clearer with the following line
01:54:794 (1) - Place this just above and in the middle of the two sliders before okay!

One of the First Hard Maps I have modded. Hope it helps :/

Good Luck!
Thanks for your mod.

Hula wrote:

'sup. OMG A HUMAN RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

[General]
SICK SONG MADAFAKKA. LOVING IT. I can't comment on the timing cos i'm useless at that. Not to mention I love the hitsounding ;-;. AND I love your flow Shiro. glad someone notices them... sigh

Add the tag: Indie rock, since it isn't a genre iirc? I could add "indie" but rock is already in Genre =P

[Xgor's Normal]
00:19:424 (4) - Correct me if I'm wrong, but this lyric sounds like it starts on a red tick, if it does, change the start to that :) OH YES I'LL CORRECT YOU BABY no actually the vocal starts somewhere between the 1/3 tick and the red tick (because singer is off), and the red tick is the most intuitive rhythm in this case

00:33:837 (2) - This isn't actually symmetrical on the y-axis, the slider end is up 3 coord! (kd pls) - grid snap the slider end to x:336 y:152, providing this was the intention. that's because Xgor maps with grid, I fixed it

01:14:789 (1) - haha, this is cool! sweg

01:59:567 (6) - another bit of nazi - you could stack this on the previous (3) ? hm kay but I changed 01:58:612 (5) - a bit as a result

02:38:613 (3,4,5,6,7) - I understand why you used lower spacing here, but it's kiai time and the guitar's rocking here, so imo it should stay 1.00x ds to keep up with the rest of the map. huh no change here, I'm not exactly sure what Xgor when for so I'll respect his choices

[Hard]
00:20:535 (7) - Not a perfect triangle thing - x:218, y:149 is a better triagnle thing what o_o it wasn't meant to be a triangle hold on I don't get it

00:35:265 (2,3) - Rejig these two sliders so they flow into each other better? Looks a bit choppy to me, correct me if this is the intention. Something maybe a bit more perfect than it currently it, like this? http://puu.sh/6tt3Z.jpg I didn't want to curve the first one too much but I can fix it I guess

01:55:271 (2) - this is 1.07 DS from last one, don't want to seem nazi, but you've been keeping everything 1.00 in situations like this >_> been fixed on previous mod

02:33:375 (3) - blanket with blue (4) is off!!! oh huh I didn't notice there was a blanket here o.O

02:39:089 (3) - I think this repeating slider could have a way cooler shape, as it currently doesn't appease my guitar slider needs; i shifted the red point slightly to the left and up iirc and got this - http://puu.sh/6ttoG.jpg that's ugly. I want to keep the slider smooth without it being completely circular

[Insane]

00:21:963 (2,3,4) - Curve these downwards? as the next string of 1/3 single tap is also curved, and imo it'll look flowier. (Will require reshifting of other objects too D:) - I personally rotated the previous slider a bit , then also rotated the slider at the other side. http://puu.sh/6ts1C.jpg - just a very rough example why does everyone ask me to make them curved they're meant to be linear

00:25:297 (1) - This slider start isn't a perfect triangle with the other slider starts. - http://puu.sh/6ts4N.jpg 00:24:344 (4) - changed this one to fix cause the one you pointed out is stacked with 00:23:392 (1) -

00:32:885 (1) - Not properly stacked, 1 coord out qq dude, like, really now

01:39:868 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You could make this maybe make this play more curvy? Since the it's currently at a bitter sweet part of the song, but yet the current memory he's singing of is actually happy. so, maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/6tsyj.jpg that looks terrible and doesn't flow, I like my linear symmetry a lot more =(

01:39:868 (2) - also this note doesn't sit on a drum like the rest, not sure if intentional :p Actually, 01:40:821 (7) - isn't supposed to have a drum sample
thanks for the mod
Hula
it obviously wasn't the best mod in the world but thanks for giving those 2 kudosu to me instead >:)
Sonnyc
Hi Shiro, saw this from #modreqs. Since this is a simple opinion on one difficulty, no need for a kudosu :3

Insane:

00:16:566 (3,4) - When playing, I felt making this as a one slider would be more comfortable.
00:31:011 (1,2) - Surely a jump fits for your pattern, but I think this was too much.
01:03:180 (5) - Imo stacking at (4) would be more readable.
01:17:646 (4) - The flow to (5) wasn't perfect, and mind fixing like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1290622
01:50:533 (5) - Isn't this kind of a hold slider unrankable?? Not sure about this, but would rather prefer a speed down.

Shooting a star for a cool 1/3 map.
smallboat
Hi,Shiro,#modreq.

  1. Red words: Should be fix it.
  2. Blue words : I recommended suggestion.
  3. Black words : In my personal opinion.

[General]

1.Cancel the widescreen support in Normal and Hard diff,because there is no storyboard at this here.
2.Perhaps you can add sliderslide mute the slide hitsound?

[Xgor's Normal] Check AiMod (Have 1 error):
00:02:440 (1) - Use Ctrl+H,you will found this pattern is crooked off (symmetry).
00:08:154 (3) - ^
00:08:630 (4) - ^
00:19:424 (4) - Cancel the whistle in slider head, and add whistle in slider end,I think can express good effect (rhythm).
00:30:059 (5) - DS?
01:03:361 (1) - Why not add finish in slider head? This is strong beat,if add it,it will be have a good effect.
01:57:180 (2) - Add whistle and clap? Look at the 01:58:135 (4) this note , perhap you can follow 24clap, wiil be have a good effect.
02:09:543 (3,4) - Perhaps you can stack 02:07:522 (5,6) ?

[Hard] Check AiMod (Have 2 error): 01:36:218 (2) - This is not a good pattern. Perhaps you can copy the 01:35:265 (2) (or 01:37:170 (4)) slider, I think this 01:35:265 (2) slider is good pattern.
01:50:533 (3) - Move (168|192),be a arc? (If you move it, notice DS (01:51:009 (1)) )

[Insane] Check AiMod (Have 4 error):
00:04:820 (3) - Stack crooked off,move a bit?
00:10:217 (3) - Try add whistle? I think have a good effect.
00:32:708 (6) - I feel no rhythm at this here,maybe you can delete it, and 00:32:390 (5) change slider, the slider end at 00:32:708. I feel it can be good better.
02:48:116 (1) - Add whistle? Because that 02:46:232 (1) have add finish at this here,I feel if add this , will have sense of rhythm.

[Other]
1.If you have any mod above problems, you can PM or in-game to me.
2.Hope to you ranked.
3.Hope my mod is useful to you.
Topic Starter
Shiro

Sonnyc wrote:

Hi Shiro, saw this from #modreqs. Since this is a simple opinion on one difficulty, no need for a kudosu :3 o: thanks

Insane:

00:16:566 (3,4) - When playing, I felt making this as a one slider would be more comfortable. Ah I can see why (because of the instrument at that point) but I want the note on 00:17:043 (4) - to be emphasized by being clicked, if I extend that slider it won't be clicked and it will feel weird because it's really prominent in the song...
00:31:011 (1,2) - Surely a jump fits for your pattern, but I think this was too much. I don't honestly get that feeling, but I reduced it and made the slider a bit more curvy to make it easier/
01:03:180 (5) - Imo stacking at (4) would be more readable. Charles pointed out the same thing - fixing.
01:17:646 (4) - The flow to (5) wasn't perfect, and mind fixing like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1290622 how did this happeeeeeeeeeen
01:50:533 (5) - Isn't this kind of a hold slider unrankable?? Not sure about this, but would rather prefer a speed down. Once again, Charles pointed it out. I thought it would be rankable, but I wasn't sure either. I'll go for a slow down

Shooting a star for a cool 1/3 map.
Thank you for the mod ! Kudosu'ing anyways because it was helpful.

smallboat wrote:

Hi,Shiro,#modreq. hi hi

  1. Red words: Should be fix it.
  2. Blue words : I recommended suggestion.
  3. Black words : In my personal opinion.

[General]

1.Cancel the widescreen support in Normal and Hard diff,because there is no storyboard at this here. ah yea
2.Perhaps you can add sliderslide mute the slide hitsound? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope muted sliderslides are the devil

[Xgor's Normal] Check AiMod (Have 1 error): fixed

00:02:440 (1) - Use Ctrl+H,you will found this pattern is crooked off (symmetry). silly Xgor
00:08:154 (3) - ^ silly silly Xgor
00:08:630 (4) - ^ XGOR LRN2SYMMETRY
00:19:424 (4) - Cancel the whistle in slider head, and add whistle in slider end,I think can express good effect (rhythm). At this point, the vocals are the ones emphasized, it's not the usual normal-clap/whistle kind of hitsounding. If I/Xgor did that there would be a hole at 00:19:106 -
00:30:059 (5) - DS? fixed
01:03:361 (1) - Why not add finish in slider head? This is strong beat,if add it,it will be have a good effect. added for consistency with the other diffs
01:57:180 (2) - Add whistle and clap? Look at the 01:58:135 (4) this note , perhap you can follow 24clap, wiil be have a good effect. added
02:09:543 (3,4) - Perhaps you can stack 02:07:522 (5,6) ? I'm not sure what Xgor went for here, but it would make the spacing weird at this point. Visually, this makes sense to me, so I'll keep it as is.

[Hard] Check AiMod (Have 2 error): fixed
01:36:218 (2) - This is not a good pattern. Perhaps you can copy the 01:35:265 (2) (or 01:37:170 (4)) slider, I think this 01:35:265 (2) slider is good pattern. I wanted to give this slider its own feeling but okay
01:50:533 (3) - Move (168|192),be a arc? (If you move it, notice DS (01:51:009 (1)) ) What I wanted to do here is give this note a specific feeling because of the sharp movement from the end of the slider to represent the harsh drums compared to the smoother sound with 01:49:105 (1,2) -

[Insane] Check AiMod (Have 4 error): fixed >.< I'm going to have to be careful with these

00:04:820 (3) - Stack crooked off,move a bit? ah indeed, fixed
00:10:217 (3) - Try add whistle? I think have a good effect. No, at this point the hitsounding is entirely focused on the rhythms, not on vocals.
00:32:708 (6) - I feel no rhythm at this here,maybe you can delete it, and 00:32:390 (5) change slider, the slider end at 00:32:708. I feel it can be good better.
02:48:116 (1) - Add whistle? Because that 02:46:232 (1) have add finish at this here,I feel if add this , will have sense of rhythm. I tried with all hitsounds I could think of, and the only one I think fits here is... no hitsound at all. >.<

[Other]
1.If you have any mod above problems, you can PM or in-game to me.
2.Hope to you ranked.
3.Hope my mod is useful to you.
Thanks for the mod !
Irreversible
IRC mod
21:31 Irreversible: are you available for IRC?
21:31 Shiro: I hate irc mods
21:31 Irreversible: :c
21:32 Shiro: but okay
21:32 Irreversible: \:D/
21:32 Shiro: let me just try
21:32 Shiro: to log in
21:32 Shiro: -_-
21:32 Irreversible: okay
21:39 Irreversible: ok, so i testplayed Insaneee
21:39 Shiro: Insaneee
21:39 Shiro: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
21:39 Shiro: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~
21:39 Shiro: *schoolgirl squeak*
21:39 Irreversible: 4 parts that bugged me, 1 pattern (sliderpattern) that i found really adorable, and i really enjoyed the jumps, and i was buffled that i passed a jumpy pattern
21:40 Irreversible: leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet's goo!
21:40 Irreversible: 00:17:043 (4) - Ok so let's start with this one, I don't find this one quite fitting, the sound there is kind of delayed and i've listened to it before, yet i was rather confused about it
21:40 *Shiro is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62602 Eminem - When I'm Gone]
21:41 Shiro: let me finish listening to this
21:41 Shiro: lol
21:41 Irreversible: sure, let me just write the suggestion LOL
21:41 Irreversible: What if you removed the circle there (4) and extend slider 3 to 00:17:043 - ? ( 1/6) it fits the bing really good imo.
21:42 Irreversible: wait no.
21:42 Irreversible: It's not 1/6, but i find the extension less confusing than the circle
21:42 Shiro: I can't just
21:42 Shiro: toy around with timing like that
21:42 Irreversible: as said
21:42 Irreversible: it's still 1/3 snap
21:42 Shiro: the whole song has ATROCIOUS timing (as you can tell) so I had to go for what's intuitive
21:42 Shiro: not what's accurate
21:42 Irreversible: just that you end the slider there instead of
21:43 Shiro: the 1/6 would be too weird
21:43 Irreversible: nono it's not 1/6 i just saw
21:43 Shiro: I don't think there's any 1/6 at all in the song
21:43 Irreversible: > it's not 1/6
21:43 Irreversible: XD
21:43 Irreversible: try letting the slider end 00:17:043 - instead of the circle.
21:43 Irreversible: (which is 1/3) xD
21:43 Shiro: no
21:43 Shiro: the circle needs to be clicked
21:43 Shiro: because it's the main rhythm
21:44 Shiro: and I went them all emphasized by being clicked
21:44 Irreversible: but that one is delaye.d.
21:45 Shiro: I had to use a slider for 3 to keep it consistent
21:45 Shiro: but end it early because I need 4 to be clicked
21:45 Irreversible: Next thing that confused me: 01:02:238 (1,2,3,4,5) -
21:45 Irreversible: Should be quite obvious why, I guess?
21:45 Shiro: ... no
21:45 Shiro: it's a very simple pattern
21:46 Shiro: O_o
21:46 Irreversible: 01:00:340 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - here you have ongoing 1/3,
21:46 Irreversible: 01:02:238 (1,2,3,4) - i assumed this is 1/3 too
21:46 Shiro: huuuh I'm not sure what to say at this point honestly
21:46 Shiro: it's a good point but
21:46 Shiro: idk
21:48 Shiro: what if I take 01:01:609 (3,4) -
21:48 Shiro: and control+H+J them
21:48 Irreversible: o_O
21:49 Irreversible: wtf
21:49 Shiro: ?
21:49 Irreversible: you mean the red circles i hope?
21:49 Irreversible: you've linked the orange ones
21:49 Shiro: red ? orange ?
21:49 Shiro: 01:01:609 (3,4) - these
21:49 Shiro: from the secoind 1/3 5-notes rhythm
21:50 Irreversible: why the heck would you ctrl + h j those
21:50 Shiro: nono
21:50 Shiro: copy them
21:50 Irreversible: 01:02:704 (3,4) - if, i would h +j those but not the other ones?
21:50 Shiro: control h j
21:50 Irreversible: ah
21:50 Shiro: for 01:02:238 (1,2) -
21:50 Shiro: >.<
21:51 Irreversible: good
21:52 Irreversible: this is more a question than a suggestion yet, but don't you count on three on this? :
21:52 Irreversible: 02:23:395 (1) - like, on this part:
21:52 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/6TF6L/0c6edf7359.jpg
21:52 Irreversible: i would find a pattern of 4x3 kinda more appropriate instead of 3x4 if you get what i mean .. like not sure if i'm right, btu that's how i feel about it
21:53 Shiro: ... why did I
21:53 Shiro: group them like that
21:53 Shiro: huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
21:53 Shiro: I'll just remove the new combos hue
21:53 Irreversible: haha yup it looks quite good if you nc like 4x3
21:54 Irreversible: 02:24:488 (2) - but move this one to like 160 64 instead so you kinda keep consistency between them
21:54 Irreversible: or a bit more to the left
21:54 Shiro: spacing isn't changing though !
21:54 Irreversible: nono look
21:54 Shiro: because symmetry
21:54 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/6TFiq/2e53f335a2.jpg
21:55 Irreversible: blue = 1 pattern, green = 1 pattern, yellow = 1 pattern (it hasn't the same spacing YET, that's what i suggest) and orange is 1 pattern
21:56 Shiro: loses symmetry
21:56 Irreversible: where? o.o
21:56 Shiro: 02:24:020 (5,8) -
21:57 Irreversible: o-o'
21:57 Irreversible: let's just go on lol
21:57 Shiro: what sliderpattern was adorable ?
21:57 Irreversible: 01:09:075 (1,2,3) -
21:58 Irreversible: XD i found them cute
21:58 Shiro: they are
21:58 Shiro: lol
21:58 Irreversible: i guess only 1 thing is left, but quite important to me
21:58 Irreversible: 02:29:089 (1,2) - i've really enjoyed this flow, like realllyyyy
21:58 Irreversible: 02:30:041 (3,4) - but this one seemed rather bad for me, i would have liked to go like even more flow
21:58 Shiro: it's hyper basic tough
21:58 Shiro: used it in she is my sin
21:59 Irreversible: but this one feels rather bad because it's rather straight (not that straight flow is bad but)
21:59 Irreversible: idk if it's against your idkwhat but : http://puu.sh/6TFEQ/72c1d059be.jpg ?
22:00 Irreversible: omg this really flows well
22:00 Shiro: noooooo that's way too confusing
22:00 Irreversible: [redcolor]http://puu.sh/6TFEQ/72c1d059be.jpg[/redcolor]
22:00 Irreversible: omg pls it's not
22:00 Irreversible: please Shiro Q___Q so good Q__Q xD
22:01 Shiro: http://puu.sh/6TFNq.jpg
22:02 Irreversible: oh
22:02 Irreversible: also good
22:02 Irreversible: :3
22:06 *Irreversible is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/299909 Never Shout Never - Can't Stand It]
22:06 Irreversible: [Hard]
22:06 Irreversible: xD
22:07 Irreversible: 02:07:681 (4,5) - well i know it follows the song, but i find it terribly confusing, i gave it the hidden test
22:07 Irreversible: i was like following the 1/1, and then i got a 50. f-
22:08 Shiro: 02:06:727 (2,3) - this uis here to warn though
22:08 Shiro: it's just basically the same
22:08 Irreversible: i guess if it was a slider it would be easier? XD
22:08 Shiro: can't
22:08 Irreversible: even without hidden
22:08 Shiro: because red line
22:08 Irreversible: it feels derp
22:09 Irreversible: would be nice if you could find another soltuoni there
22:09 Irreversible: solution*
22:09 Shiro: it's the same rhythm as right before...
22:10 Shiro: http://puu.sh/6TGtM.jpg
22:11 Irreversible: I guess that will save a lot people from getting an unwanted 50, thanks
22:11 Shiro: you guys suck at this game
22:11 Shiro: :(
22:12 Irreversible: and something aeshthetic
22:12 Irreversible: 02:32:740 (4,1,2,3) - this looked pretty well
22:12 Shiro: thanks
22:12 Irreversible: 02:34:645 (4,1) - and those two looked like
22:12 Irreversible: poo imo
22:12 Irreversible: xD
22:12 Shiro: they're
22:12 Irreversible: do they really have to be that close togheter?
22:12 Irreversible: xD
22:12 Shiro: control+h+j
22:12 Irreversible: yes i know but pls?
22:12 Irreversible: xD
22:12 Shiro: or not
22:12 Shiro: xD
22:12 Irreversible: XD
22:12 Irreversible: gotcha
22:13 Irreversible: XD
22:13 Shiro: fixed a bit
22:13 Irreversible: thanks
22:13 Irreversible: with moving?
22:13 Shiro: 02:32:740 (4,1,2,3) - a bit to the bottom right so that there's a triangle with the end 02:33:375 (3) - and 02:34:645 (4,1) -
22:13 Irreversible: okay

Fixed some patterns, and 1-2 rhythm issues, you can call me back as promised!
BeatofIke
Hi Shiro! Here's my short mod + Testplay! Enjoy! Let's move this map forward! :D

[General]
  1. Timing seems a bit questionable, but it's passable.
[Normal]
  1. 02:23:395 (1) - This slider is not symmetrical. Please fix if not done intentionally.
[Insane]
  1. This difficulty does seems a bit over-mapped while test-playing this difficulty. It didn't feel bad in anyway, but I wanted to point that out.
  2. 02:23:395 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - You could try doing the same thing you did at 01:51:009 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3). That part was pretty awesome. :)
Nothing felt awkward in Hard difficulty imo. I full combo this difficulty at first try. You are free to call me back if you like. :D
Topic Starter
Shiro
Everything fixed (in a good way, I hope). And yeah, the Insane is slightly overmapped. T_T
I'm working on the timing now.
BeatofIke
The mapset is fine but I'm still not confident about the timing (despite that I can get high accuracy on it anyways :P).
The timing is, however, better than before at least. :D
I'll double-check for this and decide whether to move this map forward or get more testing.

EDIT: I decided to move this map forward. Bubbled!
Any Ranking BAT is free to agree or disagree.
Luna123512
Get this Beatmap ranked *^* I love it :3
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