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Infected Mushroom - The Pretender [Osu|Taiko]

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Nemis
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on giovedì 18 aprile 2013 at 21.10.30

Artist: Infected Mushroom
Title: The Pretender
Tags: Army Of Mushrooms Nwolf Andrea osuplayer111 Collab Collaboration Foo Fighters Cover Remix dnb Drum N And Bass d'n'b
BPM: 174
Filesize: 4932kb
Play Time: 02:22
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,11 stars, 87 notes)
  2. Hard (4,86 stars, 337 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 407 notes)
  4. Normal (3,23 stars, 152 notes)
  5. Nwolf's Taiko Muzukashii (4,82 stars, 477 notes)
  6. Nwolf's Taiko Oni (4,89 stars, 731 notes)
Download: Infected Mushroom - The Pretender
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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More Infected Mushroom!!
Insane by me
Hard by Andrea & me (parts)
Normal by me
Easy by me
Taiko Oni by Nwolf
Taiko Muzukashii by Nwolf

RLC's Approved beatmap: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/79498
Lally
first \o3o/
robinyu
My first mod, don't go too harsh on me :D
Revy's Easy
-Circles seem too big, circle size should be a bit bigger because this seems out of place. Not sure if you intended this.
-Try to minimize use of spinners, as this is easy difficulty the player might not yet be accustomed to spinners and will likely miss them.
-When I played it, I couldn't see much variation. Some sliders can be changed to two notes instead, one at the start and one at the end.
-00:38:765 (5) - For instance, the sliders here can be changed to three notes instead.
-00:50:489 (1) - Overuse of new combos in my opinion. I think some of them can be merged into a longer combo.
-01:58:765 (1) - The spinner seems off here. I think it would be better if this part had no notes in it.
-02:16:696 (5) - I think it would be better to use 4 notes instead. A new player is likely to release it after the first reverse, seeing that this is the only part of the map that this happens.
Normal
-Circles still seem too big. This would be better if increased by one size in my opinion.
-Some overlapping issues. Try to recheck if they fit the music.
-Also somewhat lacking of variation. Try changing some sliders to two or three notes instead.
-00:58:076 (1) - Overlapping seems off. These should be regularly spaced.
-01:11:869 (1) - Overlapping seems off as well.
-01:20:145 (1) - Same issue of overlapping.
-01:31:179 (1) - The overlapping is somewhat unneeded. It should overlap, instead, use regular spacing.
-01:33:420 (1) - Spinner doesn't seem to start at the right time, rather a beat after.
-01:36:696 (1) - Although the spinner here is actually well placed, keep in mind that this is normal difficulty and double spinners might not be expected. But, this is only my opinion, if you feel normal players can handle this then you should keep it.
-01:48:765 - There is no note in this location, but I feel that one should be added.
-01:58:765 (1) - Same as Revy's Easy. This spinner seems off. Again, this is only my opinion.
-02:23:248 (4) - For more "finish" effect, this should be three notes instead of a reverse slider.
Hard
-I understand this is still a work in progress, but as it is-
-Circles are still too big in my opinion. This is very important as it is a hard, so the circles should be much smaller.
-00:45:662 (1) - I personally think that the two repeat sliders in this chain should also be hit circles.
Insane
-Overlapping issues make it near impossible to read the notes, and the song is very fast so try to avoid overlapping notes (unless necessary). The map is almost impossible to clear in this condition.
-00:40:835 (3) - Minor overlapping issue, I think the note and slider should not overlap.
-00:51:007 (1) - The overlapping problem starts here.
-01:03:593 (1) - This part and the combos that follow it are very hard to read with many "hidden" notes, and players will likely fail and "ragequit". It becomes like a trial and error thing, where you need to retry several times to memorize the positions of the notes. I will not place all of the issues of overlapping notes, because that would be redundant and I'd just be saying the same things over and over again. Anyone who plays this who is not the developer would have trouble reading the notes.
-01:58:765 (1) - I appreciate how you made this part unique instead of turning it into a spinner, you turned it into a combo. ;)
-02:00:145 (1) - I personally think this should not be a new combo.
-02:23:420 (7) - Again, it is missing the "feel" of ending the song.
Topic Starter
Nemis

robinyu wrote:

My first mod, don't go too harsh on me :D
[size=150]Normal
-Circles still seem too big. This would be better if increased by one size in my opinion. -
-Some overlapping issues. Try to recheck if they fit the music. I like these overlap, I don't find the problem D:
-Also somewhat lacking of variation. Try changing some sliders to two or three notes instead. -
-00:58:076 (1) - Overlapping seems off. These should be regularly spaced. -
-01:11:869 (1) - Overlapping seems off as well. -
-01:20:145 (1) - Same issue of overlapping. -
-01:31:179 (1) - The overlapping is somewhat unneeded. It should overlap, instead, use regular spacing. Okay
-01:33:420 (1) - Spinner doesn't seem to start at the right time, rather a beat after. I think it's good. But I fixed the spinner's end 'cause it was uncorrect
-01:36:696 (1) - Although the spinner here is actually well placed, keep in mind that this is normal difficulty and double spinners might not be expected. But, this is only my opinion, if you feel normal players can handle this then you should keep it. I think it's good
-01:48:765 - There is no note in this location, but I feel that one should be added. Why not!
-01:58:765 (1) - Same as Revy's Easy. This spinner seems off. Again, this is only my opinion. It's good
-02:23:248 (4) - For more "finish" effect, this should be three notes instead of a reverse slider. I didn't understand... if you mean the 1/4 I don't want to do a 1/4 slider because it's a Normal difficulty
Hard
-I understand this is still a work in progress, but as it is-
-Circles are still too big in my opinion. This is very important as it is a hard, so the circles should be much smaller. They are normal, not big! I don't like little beats
-00:45:662 (1) - I personally think that the two repeat sliders in this chain should also be hit circles. Oh no, it becomes insane to play :P
Insane
-Overlapping issues make it near impossible to read the notes, and the song is very fast so try to avoid overlapping notes (unless necessary). The map is almost impossible to clear in this condition. The map is completely readable and playable!
-00:40:835 (3) - Minor overlapping issue, I think the note and slider should not overlap. -
-00:51:007 (1) - The overlapping problem starts here. -
-01:03:593 (1) - This part and the combos that follow it are very hard to read with many "hidden" notes, and players will likely fail and "ragequit". It becomes like a trial and error thing, where you need to retry several times to memorize the positions of the notes. I will not place all of the issues of overlapping notes, because that would be redundant and I'd just be saying the same things over and over again. Anyone who plays this who is not the developer would have trouble reading the notes. Playable, they are stacked and perfectly readable... with HD is not that hard to read, but for who is not a HD player some tries are needed
-01:58:765 (1) - I appreciate how you made this part unique instead of turning it into a spinner, you turned it into a combo. ;)
-02:00:145 (1) - I personally think this should not be a new combo. It's necessary xD
-02:23:420 (7) - Again, it is missing the "feel" of ending the song. I don't not understand...
Thanks :) Your mod is good but there aren't overlap problems sincerly... Updated!
Andrea
~Easy~
  1. This difficulty is missing hitsounds, please add them on the whole difficulty.
  1. 00:38:765 (5) - New combo due to the new stanza and lyrics change.
  2. 00:41:524 (1) - Remove this new combo then afterwards, since you won't need it anymore.
  3. 00:50:489 (1) ~ 01:06:351 (1) - I don't understand why did you overuse new combos on this part, it feels really random and wrong. Please remake all of your combos correctly.
  4. 01:12:213 (3,1) - New combo should go on (3) and not on (1), since new stanza begins here.
  5. 01:23:593 (4) - New combo to follow the new stanza and lyrics change, once again, it looks like you're missing many of them.
  6. 01:43:593 (1) - Remove new combo, there shouldn't be one here.
  7. 01:44:972 (3) - New combo should go here instead, to follow your previous patterns.
  8. 01:49:110 (1) - Remove new combo, it's not necessary to have it there.
  9. 01:49:800 (3,4) - Wrong spacing, please use distance snap to fix it and also fix the new combo on (4).
  10. 01:53:248 (6) - Again, another main new combo is missing here, you're using them pretty randomly and I can't stand this.
  11. 02:09:800 (4) - New combo due to the new stanza and music change.
  12. 02:16:696 (5) - Such a slider with so many repeats is way too confusing to read for beginners, please make it in a different way.
~Normal~
  1. 00:24:972 (4) - This slider almost goes off-screen, please move it up a bit to avoid this problem.
  2. 00:58:076 (1,2) - I highly suggest you to avoid such kind of stacks on a Normal difficulty since they could confuse beginners, here's what I got for you.
  3. 01:11:869 (1,2) - Again, please don't stack them like that, try to make it like this instead.
  4. 01:14:627 (1,2) - This kind of sliders are unreadable for beginners, I would understand if this was a Hard or an Insane, but this is totally not good for a Normal, change their formations please.
  5. 01:20:145 (1,2) - Again, another stack you could easily avoid, try to follow the same suggestions I gave you above for fix it.
  6. 01:31:179 (1,2,3,4) - Too many stacks in a row, seriously. Make this pattern, it's much better for a Normal difficulty and better to play.
  7. 01:46:351 (2,3,1) - I'd stack these sliders perfectly together, look what I've got for you.
~Insane~
  1. 01:30:662 (1) - I don't think this new combo is really necessary, I suggest you to remove it.
  2. 01:31:869 (1,1,1) - Remove this new combo spam, it's not necessary and feels too random.
  3. 01:44:972 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern has a really weird flow imo, try to make (1) and (2) a bit more curve to give a better flow? Try that.
Great map you've got there <3
Chyo-Kun

[Easy]


  1. 00:50:489 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Questo pezzo è pieno di NC,perchè?
  2. 00:53:938 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Questi sliders sono doppi,infatti,se provi a muoverli noti che ce ne sono due al posto di uno,fixa per favore. (Inoltre questo pezzo pieno di NC come quello che ti ho fatto notare prima)
  3. 01:50:489 (4) - NC perchè ricomincia il "ritornello"
  4. 01:54:627 (7) - Sposta questo slider su x:284 y:308 (È sempre di distanza corretta)
  5. 02:16:696 (5) - Usa due slider invece di uno ripetuto 4 volte,è molto meno ripetitivo.

    [Normal]

  6. 00:58:765 (2) - NC qui per sottolineare il beat precedente
  7. 01:17:041 (3) - Questo beat può trarre in inganno facilmente,essendo subito dopo lo slider e lasciando poco tempo al giocatore di reagire. Consiglio di spostarlo su x:192 y:104 per farlo diventare più intuitivo
  8. 01:31:179 (1,2,3,4) - Che ne dici di mettere questi beat in leggera salita invece di semplicemente metterli tutti sullo stesso punto?


    392,164,91179,5,4,0:0:0:0:
    400,156,91869,1,4,0:0:0:0:
    408,148,92558,1,4,0:0:0:0:
    416,140,93248,1,4,0:0:0:0:
  9. 01:33:420 (1) - Abbassa il volume della fine di questo slider,suona malissimo

    [Hard]

  10. 01:31:179 (1,2,3,4) - Stessa cosa della normal,falli andare leggermente in salita/discesa invece di metterli tutti nello stesso punto.
    76,80,91179,5,4,0:0:0:0:
    84,84,91869,1,4,0:0:0:0:
    88,88,92558,1,4,0:0:0:0:
    96,92,93248,1,4,0:0:0:0:
  11. 01:33:334 (1) - Stessa cosa della normal,silenzia la fine di questo spinner
  12. 01:49:110 (1) - Sposta questo NC sullo slider (01:49:627 (4) - )

    [Insane]

  13. Niente di particolare qui,diff più bella del mapset. (C'è la solita fine dello spinner da silenziare [01:33:334 (1) - ])

Buona fortuna!
Chema
Hi Nemis~ :) here's a quick mod ;)

[Easy]
  1. 00:38:765 (5) - Make a new combo here, it fits better in my opinion.
  2. 00:41:524 (1) - Remove the new combo.
  3. 00:42:903 (1) - Make this slider longer.
  4. 00:50:489 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1) - I don't like this. Why don't you make a higher combo here?
  5. 01:07:731 (1) - Make this spinner longer :?
  6. 01:14:627 (1) - Same than ^
  7. 01:43:593 (4) - Remove the new combo.
  8. 01:44:972 (6) - Add a new combo here.
  9. 01:49:110 (1) - Remove the new combo.
  10. 01:50:489 (4) - Add a new combo here too.

[Hard]
  1. 02:14:972 (8) - Add a whistle in the end, it fits better for me.
I like the song, good luck! I hope this can be ranked in a near future :D
Chewin
lol awesome
Andrea
Dimenticavo, aggiungi osuplayer111 nelle tags in tutte le difficoltà.
Revy
Fixed all things , added hitsounds and removed those NC spam lold

Update nemis > http://puu.sh/2jWF1 :3
Mirage
pls spik inglish cous it luks pro xd
Topic Starter
Nemis

Andrea wrote:

~Normal~
  1. 00:24:972 (4) - This slider almost goes off-screen, please move it up a bit to avoid this problem. done!
  2. 00:58:076 (1,2) - I highly suggest you to avoid such kind of stacks on a Normal difficulty since they could confuse beginners, here's what I got for you. - I like this overlap
  3. 01:11:869 (1,2) - Again, please don't stack them like that, try to make it like this instead. -
  4. 01:14:627 (1,2) - This kind of sliders are unreadable for beginners, I would understand if this was a Hard or an Insane, but this is totally not good for a Normal, change their formations please. Easy = Beginner, Normal = Novice; a novice should know what a slider is and can read a slider like this
  5. 01:20:145 (1,2) - Again, another stack you could easily avoid, try to follow the same suggestions I gave you above for fix it. -
  6. 01:31:179 (1,2,3,4) - Too many stacks in a row, seriously. Make this pattern, it's much better for a Normal difficulty and better to play. changed
  7. 01:46:351 (2,3,1) - I'd stack these sliders perfectly together, look what I've got for you. hmm okay
~Insane~
  1. 01:30:662 (1) - I don't think this new combo is really necessary, I suggest you to remove it. okay
  2. 01:31:869 (1,1,1) - Remove this new combo spam, it's not necessary and feels too random. okay except on 01:32:558 (1) -
  3. 01:44:972 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern has a really weird flow imo, try to make (1) and (2) a bit more curve to give a better flow? Try that. it flows!
Thanks :3

Chyo-Kun wrote:

[Normal]


[*]00:58:765 (2) - NC qui per sottolineare il beat precedente lo trovo inutile
[*]01:17:041 (3) - Questo beat può trarre in inganno facilmente,essendo subito dopo lo slider e lasciando poco tempo al giocatore di reagire. Consiglio di spostarlo su x:192 y:104 per farlo diventare più intuitivo a parte il fatto che non comprendo comunque il motivo per cui non dovrebbe essere facile (xD) mi rovinerebbe tutto il pattern... mi sembra anche abbastanza brutta la posizione da te consigliatami
[*]01:31:179 (1,2,3,4) - Che ne dici di mettere questi beat in leggera salita invece di semplicemente metterli tutti sullo stesso punto? unstackati in un diverso modo :D


392,164,91179,5,4,0:0:0:0:
400,156,91869,1,4,0:0:0:0:
408,148,92558,1,4,0:0:0:0:
416,140,93248,1,4,0:0:0:0:
[*]01:33:420 (1) - Abbassa il volume della fine di questo slider,suona malissimo okay 30%

[Hard]


[*]01:31:179 (1,2,3,4) - Stessa cosa della normal,falli andare leggermente in salita/discesa invece di metterli tutti nello stesso punto. discesa :D
76,80,91179,5,4,0:0:0:0:
84,84,91869,1,4,0:0:0:0:
88,88,92558,1,4,0:0:0:0:
96,92,93248,1,4,0:0:0:0:
[*]01:33:334 (1) - Stessa cosa della normal,silenzia la fine di questo spinner okay 30%
[*]01:49:110 (1) - Sposta questo NC sullo slider (01:49:627 (4) - ) prima era su 01:48:765 (6) - ed l'ho spostata sul white tick, in quasi tutta la song è così... non vedo comunque il motivo di spostarla dopo

[Insane]


[*]Niente di particolare qui,diff più bella del mapset. (C'è la solita fine dello spinner da silenziare [01:33:334 (1) - ]) okay 30%[/list]

Buona fortuna!
Thanks :3

[Hard]
  1. 02:14:972 (8) - Add a whistle in the end, it fits better for me. okay


Thanks :3

Added "osuplayer111, Army, Of, Mushrooms" as tags

updated
riffy
More Infected Mushroom, more good maps!

[General]
  1. Your tags are inconsistent, check it once again!
[Easy]
  1. 01:09:800 (4) - nazi - x1.4 "jump" that will confuse beginners. It doesn't fits here very good, to be honet. Try to keep spacing consistent here!
  2. 01:50:489 (7) - since this beat has kiai fountain, it'll be reasonable if you place a New Combo here! What's more it will fit with your comboing and music quite good!
  3. 01:58:765 - since this diff is the easiest, kiai's end should have a circle. What's more there's too much free space, it will confuse beginners A LOT. Can't you place some kind of spinner here? example
    Note:if you will follow my example, you should silince spinner's end
  4. 02:16:696 (5,6,7,8) - this pattern is creative and cute. But beat at 02:18:076 - is ignored and it feels quite weird to me. Try something like this or this instead?
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:041 (5,1) - this jump looks cute and readable, but are you sure that it's really ok for [Normal] diff? People might be a bit confused because jumps are VERY uncommon for [Normal] diffs!
  2. 00:31:869 (5,6,1) - same as above. Well, at least you keep them consistent, that's a great plus!
  3. 00:52:558 (1) - nazi - this slider is overlapped with default hp-bar, not a big problem but it looks messy and I'd recommend you to fix it.
  4. 01:14:627 (1,2) - I can't say that this slider is readable enough for a [Normal] diff, seems like it is confusing for players.
  5. 01:33:420 (1,1) - why don't you just place a break here? It'll be k for [Normal] diff, because players need some time to relax.
[Hard]
  1. So, this diff is collab? Let us know where's your part and where's Tsundrea's part! :3 no need to add SB, you can simply write it in creator's word
  2. I'd say that you need to increase HP Drain and Overall Diff by one tick. Diff settings are unbalanced, imo.
  3. 01:47:903 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Don't you think that you use too many circles in a row, for DT players is just a PAINFUL HELL to play >5 circles in a row, so they won't be happy to see this pattern. Just add one or two sliders here, to make people happy.

    Oh my God, this diff is awesome!
[Insane]
  1. Try to do HP drain + 1! let's make this diff even more challenging, I think it;ll make gameplay even more enjoyable.
  2. 01:00:145 (3,4,5) - after stacked 1/4 notes players might miss 01:00:489 (4) - and click (5). I guess you should unstack (5) to make pattern easier to read.
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I can't do anything but Star it! ~

To be honest, I think it's better than RLC's one. /me runs
BounceBabe
Hi, Random mod

Easy

01:50:489 (7) - NC
01:53:248 (1) - Remove NC
01:56:007 (4) - ^
02:16:696 (5) - ^

Normal


01:31:179 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing

Hard

00:44:627 (1,2) - Spacing
00:45:317 (3,1) - ^

Insane

Keep the distance spacing on all streams one distance spacing, you have so many different ones
grumd
Bakari's mod, Easy diff, 01:58:765 - I honestly think that just extending last slider's end to this position fits the music better than a spinner. Try this too when fixing Bakari's mod.
Revy
@Bakari All fixed :3
@BounceBabe Fixed only the first NC
@grumd : im not sure about it , the spinner fits better i think , i will wait for more mods

http://puu.sh/2lESr !
Mikkuri
o3o
Azure
for cutecute Nemis <3
[Easy]
  1. 00:25:662 (4) copy 00:25:662 (3) and rotate 180 move to
    like this
  2. 00:30:489 (3,4,1 )
    stick them like this
  3. 00:50:489 (5) move to (x:228 y:176)
  4. 01:32:472、01:33:162、01:33:420、01:36:782、01:37:386、01:38:076、01:38:765 remove the green lines
  5. 01:50:489 NC
  6. 01:53:248 remove NC
  7. 01:54:627 NC
  8. 02:14:627 (3) move to (x:148 y:204)
[Normal]
  1. 00:38:766 (3) Spacing
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:213 (1,2,3) not stick them together
  2. 01:00:748 + combo
  3. 01:05:920 ^
  4. 01:19:541 ^
  5. 01:25:231 ^
  6. 02:04:196 ^
  7. 02:08:851 ^
  8. 02:14:886 ^
  9. 02:16:696 (5,6,7,8) change to this?
  10. 02:23:248 (9)
[Insane]
  1. 01:16:869 (6) move to (x:472 y:48)
  2. 01:45:662 (3,4,5) I think this's better..
  3. 01:56:696 (3,4,5) ^
  4. 02:23:420 (7) repeat
nothing else 0.0
Good luck!!
Topic Starter
Nemis
Done! Nice mods, thanks :3
Updated

Anyway we don't really want to change 01:47:903 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - :D
For the collab I will create the SB
Revy
@Azure:
All fixed , thankyou :3 http://puu.sh/2nfzN
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