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SHK - Imagination

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Gabi
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on den 19 april 2009 at 02:33:16

Artist: SHK
Title: Imagination
Source: O2Jam
Tags: Imagination
BPM: 180
Filesize: 4508kb
Play Time: 02:03
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,98 stars, 349 notes)
  2. LESJUH (5 stars, 485 notes)
  3. Normal (4,33 stars, 214 notes)
  4. SHD (5 stars, 476 notes)
Download: SHK - Imagination
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love this song, its from o2jam.

second real beatmap try :)
Doomsday
[LULZFORNOW] (WIP title im assuming)

00:23:966 (5) - line up with (3)
00:52:799 (1, 2, 3, 4) - spacing heres a little wider than the combo before it all of a sudden.
00:59:633 (9) - line this up with (7), and the hitcircle underneath too
01:22:633 - redo the timing section so it starts on (1) instead of just before it, so the Kiai time kicks in on that note. it would look better with that.
01:23:799 (5) - kind of an odd place to put the hitcircle. maybe put it inbetween the end of (4) and (1)?
01:40:466 (11) - line this up with (10)
01:33:299 (1) - auto can't +2000 it. you need to either remove it or make it longer so auto can +2000 it.
also, theres no hitsounds. you'll need to add those in

with that said though i think this is a fun map.
star'd
Topic Starter
Gabi

Doomsday93 wrote:

[LULZFORNOW] (WIP title im assuming)

00:23:966 (5) - line up with (3)
done
00:52:799 (1, 2, 3, 4) - spacing heres a little wider than the combo before it all of a sudden.
Snapped them abit closer
00:59:633 (9) - line this up with (7), and the hitcircle underneath too
done
01:22:633 - redo the timing section so it starts on (1) instead of just before it, so the Kiai time kicks in on that note. it would look better with that.
done
01:23:799 (5) - kind of an odd place to put the hitcircle. maybe put it inbetween the end of (4) and (1)?
lol done ^^
01:40:466 (11) - line this up with (10)
done
01:33:299 (1) - auto can't +2000 it. you need to either remove it or make it longer so auto can +2000 it.
also, theres no hitsounds. you'll need to add those in
removed 3 notes, made it longer. i wouldnt mind another oppinion on it tho cause i think it sounds abit wierd.

with that said though i think this is a fun map.
star'd
thanks for the help :))
Yuukari-Banteki
[SHD]
00:09:63 (2,3) - imperfect stacking
00:14:29 (5,6,1) - can you move 1 so it isn't under stuff
00:19:13 (2) - imperfect stacking
00:26:96 (6) - line this up with 5
00:27:63 (8) - line this up with 7
00:31:79 (8) - new combo
00:42:71 (12) - ^
00:48:46 (9) - imperfect stacking
01:20:46 (11) - new combo
01:32:13 (14) - ^
01:38:29 (1) - imperfect stacking
01:48:46 (8,9) - ^
01:53:96 (9) - new combo
01:54:63 (17,1,1) - slider overlap looks bad
01:58:63 (1,1,1) - ^
02:03:96 (1,1) - both too short by current standards (auto +2000) you can combine them though
one thing very noticable was the lack of hitsounds. please add them ^^ then call me back and ill star
Topic Starter
Gabi

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[SHD]
00:09:63 (2,3) - imperfect stacking
00:14:29 (5,6,1) - can you move 1 so it isn't under stuff
00:19:13 (2) - imperfect stacking
00:26:96 (6) - line this up with 5
00:27:63 (8) - line this up with 7
00:31:79 (8) - new combo
00:42:71 (12) - ^
00:48:46 (9) - imperfect stacking
01:20:46 (11) - new combo
01:32:13 (14) - ^
01:38:29 (1) - imperfect stacking
01:48:46 (8,9) - ^
01:53:96 (9) - new combo
^ Done all above ^
01:54:63 (17,1,1) - slider overlap looks bad
fixed abit
01:58:63 (1,1,1) - ^
i cant really fix this well. and i think i just made it worse XD
02:03:96 (1,1) - both too short by current standards (auto +2000) you can combine them though
made it one
one thing very noticable was the lack of hitsounds. please add them ^^ then call me back and ill star
i suck at hitsounds, but i will get them done today or tomorrow.

thanks alot :)
Lesjuh
I think of making a diff for this if you don't mind. i love the song.
Your map is very good btw. I enjoyed playing alot ;)
Topic Starter
Gabi

lesjuh wrote:

I think of making a diff for this if you don't mind. i love the song.
Your map is very good btw. I enjoyed playing alot ;)
sure
Lesjuh
Done.
Custom sounds are in the package.

Download: LESJUH DIFF.rar
Yuukari-Banteki
[SHD]
00:10:13 (4) - stack on the fading end of 1
00:16:46 (9) - new combo
00:19:13 (2) - i think this would look better stacked under 1
00:28:13 (2) - stack under fading 5
00:28:79 (6) - stack under fading 8
00:33:29 (1) - align with 8,9
00:36:96 (6) - align horizontally with the end of 5 (use grid level 3 for visual guide and align manually)
00:37:29 (1) - align vertically with 6
00:38:63 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - needs hitsounds
00:44:96 (1) - stack the end under the fading pink
00:48:96 (1) - end could use a finish
00:53:29 (4) - finish
00:57:29 (3) - ^
00:59:96 (1) - ^
01:02:63 (4) - ^
01:30:63 (1,2,3,4) - move so it fits with the fading 3
01:36:96 (8) - new combo
01:40:46 (11) - needs hitsound
01:41:29 (4) - ^
01:43:63 (7) - ^
01:46:63 (3) - ^
01:50:63 (1) - finish
01:51:96 (1) - ^
01:54:63 (9,10...) - the sliders need hitsounds, i think putting them on the ends would sound best
02:03:96 (1) - finish
generally if you find a note sharply emphasized in the song its a good place to put a finish. i didnt point all of them out, just the really really obvious (imo) ones


[LESJUH]
00:18:79 (10) - new combo
00:27:96 (1,2,3...) - using the same rhythm constantly is getting repetitive, whole section could use more hitsounds too
00:35:96 (1) - improper stacking
00:52:79 (7) - new combo
00:55:63 (5,6) - this pattern completely hides 6 and is illegal last i checked (b/c you cant tell if 6 is a slider or a circle)
01:00:46 (2) - improper stacking
01:03:96 (9) - add a finish
01:10:63 (1,2,3,4...) - section needs hitsounds
01:12:46 (5) - improper stacking
01:17:29 (7) - new combo
01:23:79 (4) - improper stacking
01:42:13 (7) - new combo
01:44:96 (5,6) - illegal pattern
01:49:79 (2) - improper stacking
02:03:29 (9) - new combo



reluctantly, reluctantly starred
Lesjuh

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[LESJUH]
00:18:79 (10) - new combo i put the new combo at 9
00:27:96 (1,2,3...) - using the same rhythm constantly is getting repetitive, whole section could use more hitsounds too I can't help the song is very repetitive, i did add some hitsounds here.
00:35:96 (1) - improper stacking does it make any difference else? :/
00:52:79 (7) - new combo yep
00:55:63 (5,6) - this pattern completely hides 6 and is illegal last i checked (b/c you cant tell if 6 is a slider or a circle) I saw that one coming :lol:
01:00:46 (2) - improper stacking awww, don't be too strict x3
01:03:96 (9) - add a finish sure
01:10:63 (1,2,3,4...) - section needs hitsoundsit does :/ *fixes*
01:12:46 (5) - improper stacking not that it matters but ok
01:17:29 (7) - new combo yep
01:23:79 (4) - improper stacking really? ._.
01:42:13 (7) - new combo yes
01:44:96 (5,6) - illegal pattern fixed
01:49:79 (2) - improper stacking ok
02:03:29 (9) - new combo yes
Download: SHK - Imagination (Gabi8989) [LESJUH].osu
Topic Starter
Gabi

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[SHD]
00:10:13 (4) - stack on the fading end of 1
00:16:46 (9) - new combo
00:19:13 (2) - i think this would look better stacked under 1
00:28:13 (2) - stack under fading 5
00:28:79 (6) - stack under fading 8
00:33:29 (1) - align with 8,9
finished above
00:36:96 (6) - align horizontally with the end of 5 (use grid level 3 for visual guide and align manually)
00:37:29 (1) - align vertically with 6
abit confused, they look aligned to me :$ or i might just have missunderstood
00:38:63 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - needs hitsounds
00:44:96 (1) - stack the end under the fading pink
00:48:96 (1) - end could use a finish
00:53:29 (4) - finish
00:57:29 (3) - ^
00:59:96 (1) - ^
01:02:63 (4) - ^
01:30:63 (1,2,3,4) - move so it fits with the fading 3
01:36:96 (8) - new combo
01:40:46 (11) - needs hitsound
01:41:29 (4) - ^
01:43:63 (7) - ^
01:46:63 (3) - ^
01:50:63 (1) - finish
01:51:96 (1) - ^
01:54:63 (9,10...) - the sliders need hitsounds, i think putting them on the ends would sound best
02:03:96 (1) - finish
generally if you find a note sharply emphasized in the song its a good place to put a finish. i didnt point all of them out, just the really really obvious (imo) ones
lmao thanks alot. i find it hard to find these small hitsounds that makes the song really good. i didnt know untill just yesterday that you could put 1 hitsound in the beginning in the slider and a different in the end :$

reluctantly, reluctantly starred
thanks alot :D
Hanyuu
Really like the map. keep working on it :D
minyeob
[SHD]
30:303(4)-> This isn't lined up with (3).

[LESJUH]
This difficulty needs a kiai.
04:637(1,2,3,4)-> Move up a bit.(Because (1) is not lined up with 04:300(3). )
32;640(5)-> This slider's ending point is too far from (6). Change the direction or make it to new combo (1).


Nice beatmap.
Have a star~
Lesjuh
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Gabi
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
An64fan
Reupload. I'm not picking up Hard. Okay you already reuploaded since I mentioned it in chat.

Also, an easier difficulty will be needed. Both SHD and LESJUH call for quite the skill, and though Hard's definitely easier, it makes quite the calling for that as well.

However, looking past the current lack of an easier difficulty, it's quite the good map.

All difficulties
Offset felt kind of fast for me, but I'd say to try and get some feedback from someone who's better with offsets to confirm. (I pushed the offset back only 15ms while playing though it sounded a lot better with an extra 25ms delay when checking in the editor; again, get someone else to check it though)
Maybe add in a little bit of lead in, as it feels like it starts up just a little bit fast. Half a second would probably do it without putting in more time than you need.

Some various spacing consistencies here and there, although many of them make sense so those aren't too huge a problem. I'm just gonna go through with some of the stuff that could be fixed up though.
Hard
00:41:65 (4,5) - I have a slight quirk with these being a bit hard to notice after the earlier slider (especially 4).
00:51:49 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing inconsistency between 1 and 2.
00:56:99 (1,2,3) - Same as above, between 2 and 3.
01:00:82 (1,2,3,4) - Same thing, 2 and 3.
01:02:15 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:10:65 (1-7, 1-7) - Above, across the horizontal from 4/5(white)-4/5(blue), vertically from 4/5(b) to 7.
01:16:65 (2,3,4) - Above, 3 and 4.
~1:21 - Just fix up your break here
01:22:65 (1-6,1-6,1-6) - Slight inconsistencies, changes notably between 2(pink) and 3(p), 2(w) and 3(w), and just around this area in general. Basically, just calling for some touch-ups on spacing.
01:30:65 (1-13) - Spacing between 2, 3, and 4.
01:37:65 (7,8,9,10) - Spacing between 7-8 and 9-10.
01:40:82 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing between 1 and 2.
01:46:32 (1,2,3) - Spacing, 2-3.
01:50:15 (2,3,4,1) - Spacing, 2-3, 4-1.
01:51:49 (2,3,4,1) - ^

SHD
00:15:32 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing, 4-5.
00:18:74 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing, 2-3, 4-5.
00:41:32 (1-11) - Spacing, 3-4.
00:45:82 (3,4,5,6,1) - Spacing, 5-6.
00:52:82 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing, 2-3.
01:19:32 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing, try turning grid snap off here.
~1:21 - Same thing about the break.
01:30:65 (1-13) - Spacing, 1-2, 4-5.
01:38:32 (1,2) - Space seems to be a bit large between 1 and 2,
01:50:15 (2,3,4,1) - Spacing, from 3-1.
01:51:49 (2,3,4,1) - ^
01:54:57 (8,9) - Considering the stream, I think 9 should probably be a bit closer.

LESJUH
00:58:15 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing seems a little bit inconsistent (namely 1-2).

Okay, you know what? I'll just stop at that. :P Obviously I have very little to poke at anyways. Oh, wait...
01:31:99 (10,1) - This jump bothers me just a little bit.
01:47:49 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Pointed out earlier (1:19).
01:54:65 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing.

Okay, I'm done. Seeing as how I'm picking at very tiny spacing inconsistencies, it's obvious that I honest-to-goodness can't find any serious problems that need fixing. I guess just glance over those, because most of those spacing notes are legitimate, albeit small. :P In any case, good work on this. Very fun, although difficult, but the fast pace really appeals to me. Gets are star from me~
Topic Starter
Gabi

An64fan wrote:

Reupload. I'm not picking up Hard. Okay you already reuploaded since I mentioned it in chat.

Also, an easier difficulty will be needed. Both SHD and LESJUH call for quite the skill, and though Hard's definitely easier, it makes quite the calling for that as well.

However, looking past the current lack of an easier difficulty, it's quite the good map.

All difficulties
Offset felt kind of fast for me, but I'd say to try and get some feedback from someone who's better with offsets to confirm. (I pushed the offset back only 15ms while playing though it sounded a lot better with an extra 25ms delay when checking in the editor; again, get someone else to check it though)
Maybe add in a little bit of lead in, as it feels like it starts up just a little bit fast. Half a second would probably do it without putting in more time than you need.

Some various spacing consistencies here and there, although many of them make sense so those aren't too huge a problem. I'm just gonna go through with some of the stuff that could be fixed up though.
Hard
00:41:65 (4,5) - I have a slight quirk with these being a bit hard to notice after the earlier slider (especially 4).
Re noted
00:51:49 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing inconsistency between 1 and 2.
fixed
00:56:99 (1,2,3) - Same as above, between 2 and 3.
fixed
01:00:82 (1,2,3,4) - Same thing, 2 and 3.
fixed
01:02:15 (1,2,3,4) - ^
fixed
01:10:65 (1-7, 1-7) - Above, across the horizontal from 4/5(white)-4/5(blue), vertically from 4/5(b) to 7.
fixed
01:16:65 (2,3,4) - Above, 3 and 4.
fixed
~1:21 - Just fix up your break here
removed some notes and did it
01:22:65 (1-6,1-6,1-6) - Slight inconsistencies, changes notably between 2(pink) and 3(p), 2(w) and 3(w), and just around this area in general. Basically, just calling for some touch-ups on spacing.
right, everything should be 1 grid apart from each other now (maybe 1½)
01:30:65 (1-13) - Spacing between 2, 3, and 4.
fixed
01:37:65 (7,8,9,10) - Spacing between 7-8 and 9-10.
fixed
01:40:82 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing between 1 and 2.
fixed
01:46:32 (1,2,3) - Spacing, 2-3.
fixed
01:50:15 (2,3,4,1) - Spacing, 2-3, 4-1.
fixed
01:51:49 (2,3,4,1) - ^
fixed

SHD
00:15:32 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing, 4-5.
fixed
00:18:74 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing, 2-3, 4-5.
fixed
00:41:32 (1-11) - Spacing, 3-4.
fixed
00:45:82 (3,4,5,6,1) - Spacing, 5-6.
fixed
00:52:82 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing, 2-3.
fixed
01:19:32 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing, try turning grid snap off here.
fixed
~1:21 - Same thing about the break.
fixed
01:30:65 (1-13) - Spacing, 1-2, 4-5.
fixed
01:38:32 (1,2) - Space seems to be a bit large between 1 and 2,
fixed
01:50:15 (2,3,4,1) - Spacing, from 3-1.
fixed
01:51:49 (2,3,4,1) - ^
fixed
01:54:57 (8,9) - Considering the stream, I think 9 should probably be a bit closer.
done


Thanks :D ill leave lesjuh's diff so he can mod it i dont wanna mess anything up xD

LESJUH
00:58:15 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing seems a little bit inconsistent (namely 1-2).

Okay, you know what? I'll just stop at that. :P Obviously I have very little to poke at anyways. Oh, wait...
01:31:99 (10,1) - This jump bothers me just a little bit.
01:47:49 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Pointed out earlier (1:19).
01:54:65 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing.

Okay, I'm done. Seeing as how I'm picking at very tiny spacing inconsistencies, it's obvious that I honest-to-goodness can't find any serious problems that need fixing. I guess just glance over those, because most of those spacing notes are legitimate, albeit small. :P In any case, good work on this. Very fun, although difficult, but the fast pace really appeals to me. Gets are star from me~
Sushi
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Gabi

Sushi971 wrote:

mah~ This is already a very nice map~

All what i'll say is just suggestion

[Normal]
00:41:29 (1) - This is good, but finish would sound better 1/2 beat earlier
00:42:71 (1) - Make it start 1/4 beat earlier
02:02:63 (1) - Finish 1/2 earlier sounds better

[Hard]
01:59:96 (1,1) - The finish of those sounds weird to me
02:02:63 (1) - same thing as Normal, but can be really overlooked in hard

[SHD]
01:59:96 (1,1) - These finish sound weird

[LESJUH]
Fine~



This really need star.... !summon Star
thanks, i changed all and it does sound better ^^
Larto
Normal:
Don't you think it's a bit too hard?~

Hard:
01:14:29 (3) - completely hidden by 1
01:36:46 (4) - 1 Level 3 grid down

SHD:
Fine

Lesjuh:
00:14:63 (11) - Repeat completely hidden.
01:10:63 (1) - That slider is SO hard to see, being overlapped by the whole last combo and a circle before said combo
01:15:63 (1) - REALLY hard to see, too.


Sick bastards :p
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