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blue drops - Heart no Kakuritsu (TV Size)

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pkhg
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on lunes, 01 de julio de 2013 at 23:52:39

Artist: blue drops
Title: Heart no Kakuritsu (TV Size)
Source: Sora no Otoshimono: Forte
Tags: opening op Heaven's Lost Property そらのおとしもの DakeDekaane Yoshida Hitomi
BPM: 157
Filesize: 14325kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dekaane's Normal (4,26 stars, 130 notes)
  2. Easy (3,2 stars, 102 notes)
  3. Hard (4,94 stars, 206 notes)
  4. Insane (5 stars, 308 notes)
Download: blue drops - Heart no Kakuritsu (TV Size)
Download: blue drops - Heart no Kakuritsu (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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1st map.
I want your mods.
I love this song, you should love it too.
Thanks to DakeDekaane for the normal diff :D
Log
Edit 1: Jan 3
Remapped Easy diff.
Edit 2: Jan 5
Add custom hitsounds.
Edit 3: Jan 12
Add Taiko Oni diff (in progress)
Edit 4: Jan 18
Taiko Oni diff Deleted
Edit 5: Jan 30
Add new BG
Do you wanna know who helped me?
Kiiwa
NewRulerNA
Xinely
SuperMoutarde
BounceBabe
Rzax
Crimmi
Frans Niko
Entreal
SamiPale
xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx
kevinelson
DakeDekaane (This guy mod like a MAT :3 MAT doesn't exist anymore, then this guy should be a BAT ^^)
Darksonic
smallboat
P A N
Shinchaechae
Frostmourne
Thanks for your help guys
Xinely
hmmm
preview point should be in 01:02:309 -
Topic Starter
pkhg

Xinely wrote:

hmmm
preview point should be in 01:02:309 -
This sounds fine to me :3 01:14:539 -
Kiiwa
Hi~

General
Preview point is better at 01:02:309 -
Kiai time should be at 01:03:074 - to 01:29:061 - You don't need it in the beginning as well!
You can find a better background, right? This one just looks like a screen shot from the video...

Insane
Health Drain -1
00:08:042 - to 00:12:246 - every 1/1 white tick should have Normal hits. Just like in your Kiai time.
00:12:819 - Add finish to match song.
00:16:641 - to 00:17:118 - should be Normal hit sounds.
00:59:634 (5,6) - Bad spacing, better to make consistent with the rest of the stream.
01:03:456 (2,3) - Better to stack this type of spacing perfectly because it's the same spacing as your stream and gets really confusing... Like you did at 01:15:685 (2,3) -
01:09:188 - Add finish.
01:14:156 - Listen to the song here. It should be a Normal hit sound not a soft hit finish!
01:20:653 (1,2,3,5,6,1) - Place differently please.
01:25:239 - It would be better not to suddenly introduce Normal hit whistle here.
01:26:768 (8) - New combo.

Hard
Try to create more consistency with your hit sounds. 00:07:277 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - Could be better.
00:26:386 (1) - Remove new combo, 00:27:150 (2) - Add new combo.
01:09:188 - Add finish.
01:12:246 (3,5) - I'm pretty sure this isn't rankable. Place this second slider in another way please.
01:27:723 (5) - New combo.

Easy
Star rating is too high for this difficulty to be an Easy. Please remove some notes, your map is too condensed. I won't be specific about how you do it, but you need to delete some stuff and make your map more 1/1.
00:13:583 (3,1) - Too confusing stacking for an Easy.
00:16:832 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:20:653 (6) - New combo.
00:24:475 (10) - Please listen to the song here. This slider should actually start at 00:24:857 - and end at 00:25:813 -
Topic Starter
pkhg
01:14:539 - This Preview Point is better for me :3

I remapped the easy diff.

Tommorow i put a new BG, I'm so tired to search one now.

Thanks for the mods.
NewRulerNA
hi
my error check here. this map had some unrankable stuff. You must change these.

[General]
  1. diff spread is bad. You must make (or adjust) the difficulty of the rate 3.0

    Ranking Criteria wrote:

    The mapset must have a well-designed spread of difficulties, containing at least an Easy or a Normal difficulty (based on how the map feels): this is so that players of all levels of experience are able to enjoy maps of the songs they love. It's really hard to define how a specific spread could work in a specific song beforehand, but here's a list of things to consider: the difficulties in the mapset must be in a consecutive order and/or with a reasonable gap between them; there should be at least one difficulty around ~2.5/3 star difficulty level; if your mapset has two difficulties, one of them cannot be insane (this basically means that it's highly recommended to have 3 difficulties unless the song itself doesn't allow much variety); if your mapset has three difficulties, one of them should be about ~2.5/3 star difficulty level, and the second should not be Insane; if your map has four or more difficulties, at least two should be something other than Insane. The difficulty level of Taiko-specific difficulties must also follow a well-designed spread with no jumps in between difficulties, hence if you may include Normal/Hard/Insane, or Normal/Hard or Hard/Insane (only if it also has standard difficulties)
this map is wip. so if you're notice it, you can ignore this atm.

[Easy]
  1. 00:08:042 - two inherited timing sections. you must remove one.

    Ranking Criteria wrote:

    No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.
[Normal]
  1. 00:38:615 - two inherited timing sections. you must remove one.

gl
Topic Starter
pkhg
Applied Mods.
I can't reduce difficulty, when i change it, the star rating keeps the same.
What i had to do?
NewRulerNA
You should change rhythm in Easy.
I know some note be abele to facilitate. so rhythm mod/suggestion here. I do not write reasons. because you can say "no change" without reason.

[Easy]
  1. 00:08:042 (1,2) - change (1) to 2/1 slider. and remove (2)
  2. 00:11:481 (2) - remove this note. I think this note able to be deleted, can be more easier.
  3. 00:21:800 (3,4) - ^
  4. 00:26:768 (1,2,3) - rhythm suggestion.

    00:26:768 (1) - 3/2 slider
    00:27:723 (2) - 1/1 slider and reverse
    00:28:870 (3) - 3/2 slider
    I think this rhythm can follow vocal than now.
  5. 00:37:277 (2,3) - change 5/2 slider. 1/2 sliders is hard in Easy.
  6. 00:39:379 (2,3) - suggestion

    00:39:379 (2) - 3/2 slider
    00:40:335 (3) - circle
  7. 00:42:437 (1,2) - ^

    like this.
  8. 00:45:494 (1,2) - change (1) to 3/2 slider, and remove (2)
  9. 00:49:889 (3) - move end to 00:50:462.
  10. 01:00:016 (1,2) - remove (2), and move (1) end to 01:00:781 or 01:00:972 - .
  11. 01:06:131 (1,2,3,4) - uggestion

    01:06:131 (1) - 5/2 slider
    01:07:469 (2) - 3/2 slider
    01:08:424 (3) - circle
  12. 01:13:392 (2,3,4) - suggestion

    01:13:392 (2) - 2/1 slider
    01:14:539 (3) - 1/1 slider
  13. 01:25:621 (2,3) - same as 00:37:277 (2,3)
    change to 2/1 slider
these suggestion is temporarily placed. so you should get more mods, and adjust those.
need more works now. but if you get more mods, you would be able to make rank.
good luck.
Topic Starter
pkhg
Applied Mods, Thank you!
Xinely
Hi~
okay then, see from #modreqs

[Easy]
00:08:042 (1) - finish in start slider
00:14:921 (3,4,5) - try make in 1 diagonal better >_<
00:25:813 (4) - finish in tail slider
00:56:959 (1,1) - finish in head slider
01:02:309 (1) - finish in tail slider
01:15:303 (1) - finish in head slider
01:21:418 (1) - ^

[Normal]
spacing so far, how about 1,0x?
00:05:367 (3,4,5) - weird, how about http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/573444 ?
00:26:386 (1) - finish in head
00:38:615 (1) - ^
00:50:844 (1) - ^
00:53:902 (1) - ^
01:23:711 (1,2,3,4) - don't make like this.. normal must have consistency space

[Hard]
00:26:386 (3) - finish in head
00:41:290 (6) - ctrl+G
01:03:074 (5) - New combo
01:18:360 (1) - finish in head
01:18:360 (1) - deadly jump, crtl+G

and i can't mod insane
lovely song ~ <3
Good Luck ~
Topic Starter
pkhg

Xinely wrote:

Hi~
okay then, see from #modreqs

[Easy]
00:08:042 (1) - finish in start slider Ok
00:14:921 (3,4,5) - try make in 1 diagonal better >_< I keep it
00:25:813 (4) - finish in tail slider Ok
00:56:959 (1,1) - finish in head slider Ok
01:02:309 (1) - finish in tail slider Ok
01:15:303 (1) - finish in head slider Ok
01:21:418 (1) - ^ Ok

[Normal]
spacing so far, how about 1,0x?
00:05:367 (3,4,5) - weird, how about http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/573444 ? Ok
00:26:386 (1) - finish in head Ok
00:38:615 (1) - ^ Ok
00:50:844 (1) - ^ Ok
00:53:902 (1) - ^ Ok
01:23:711 (1,2,3,4) - don't make like this.. normal must have consistency space Ok


[Hard]
00:26:386 (3) - finish in head Ok
00:41:290 (6) - ctrl+G I don't change it
01:03:074 (5) - New combo Ok
01:18:360 (1) - finish in head Ok
01:18:360 (1) - deadly jump, crtl+G This is possible, I don' change it

and i can't mod insane
lovely song ~ <3
Good Luck ~
Thanks ~
SuperMoutarde
Hi, here's my mod. These are suggestions, except in blue what I think is to be fixed

[Easy]

00:35:367 (5) - looks a bit odd, i would change the shape

00:56:959 (1) - distance snap. should be closer from 00:55:813 (3), as 00:53:902 (1,2,3) has a consistent snapping that the slider I pointed out doesn't share. Actually your using two different snapping during the song is extremely confusing and not recommended for an easy diff. It is caused by all your slider speed changes but it makes the map too hard to read for beginners, you have to work on that for sure

01:02:309 (1) - dist snap



[Normal]

No comment, map looks good :)


[Hard]

00:12:055 (6) - I think it's a shame there's nothing on 00:12:246 to fit with the music so I would either replace this by three circles or change it for a slider half shorter with one repeat

Maybe add circle at 00:23:233

00:54:666 (2,3) - these overlap too much with each other imo


[Insane]

Should follow the music more imo.

00:01:163 (1) - there should be smth on 00:01:354. Remove the slider and go for three circles or anything that will mark the three notes

00:04:220 (1) - ^
Topic Starter
pkhg

SuperMoutarde wrote:

Hi, here's my mod. These are suggestions, except in blue what I think is to be fixed

[Easy]

00:35:367 (5) - looks a bit odd, i would change the shape. this slider looks good

00:56:959 (1) - distance snap. should be closer from 00:55:813 (3), as 00:53:902 (1,2,3) has a consistent snapping that the slider I pointed out doesn't share. Actually your using two different snapping during the song is extremely confusing and not recommended for an easy diff. It is caused by all your slider speed changes but it makes the map too hard to read for beginners, you have to work on that for sure. Done

01:02:309 (1) - dist snap. Done


[Normal]

No comment, map looks good :)

Thanks :)

[Hard]

00:12:055 (6) - I think it's a shame there's nothing on 00:12:246 to fit with the music so I would either replace this by three circles or change it for a slider half shorter with one repeat I don't folow the voice in this part

Maybe add circle at 00:23:233 It's a little hard

00:54:666 (2,3) - these overlap too much with each other imo But they looks good


[Insane]

Should follow the music more imo.

00:01:163 (1) - there should be smth on 00:01:354. Remove the slider and go for three circles or anything that will mark the three notes But it sound good

00:04:220 (1) - ^ ^
Thanks ~
BounceBabe
Hi from the Queue!

General

Right timing
1. Offset: 408ms BPM: 157,00
Resnap after and move the timing points

01:27:532 (1) - Let spinners end here 01:29:061 - so it ends with the music
00:26:386 - NEVER slowdown in an Easy or Normal, its no good when playing, it confuses new players too - Remove the slowdowns and adjust the spacing ( Easy + Normal )
There are no Combo Colours set, why?


Normal

00:09:762 (1) - Remove this circle, doesnt fit well here
00:11:099 (4) - NC for new pattern
00:25:813 (1) - Remove NC, still part pf the previous pattern
01:02:309 (1) - What the hell is this, dont do that on Normal or Easy

Hard

00:16:449 (9) - Whoo.... this is so blind, move it in a different way to make it more visible

01:08:042 (1) - Remove NC, not needed
01:08:615 (2) - NC for new part of vocal, then delete this NC 01:09:188 (1) -
01:27:723 (1,2,3,4) - I would delete this part and make the spinner as on the other diffs


Insane

General
This is just so overmapped :<

Overall
00:20:080 (1) - NC not needed
00:26:386 (2) - NC for new part of the song, also this slowdown doesnt fit, again.
00:28:870 (4,1) - Huge jump, dont you think?
00:43:965 (4) - You did this again here, dont overlap tis and make it more visible

00:56:577 (1) - NC not needed
00:59:061 (2) - Too blind, move it so you can see it obviously
00:59:348 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - These streams are placed where no drum sound is given, so please add some other patterns to it
01:01:832 (2) - Delete this and only keep 1 and 2, so it fits the music well
01:05:176 (8,1) - This jump is ok but i dont understand the 01:05:367 (1,2) - jump here, make a normal spacing


Still needs a lot more improvement on Insane!
Topic Starter
pkhg

BounceBabe wrote:

Hi from the Queue!

General

Right timing
1. Offset: 408ms BPM: 157,00
Resnap after and move the timing points.
Done!

01:27:532 (1) - Let spinners end here 01:29:061 - so it ends with the music. Done!
00:26:386 - NEVER slowdown in an Easy or Normal, its no good when playing, it confuses new players too - Remove the slowdowns and adjust the spacing ( Easy + Normal ). Done!
There are no Combo Colours set, why? Added combo colours

Normal

00:09:762 (1) - Remove this circle, doesnt fit well here. Done!
00:11:099 (4) - NC for new pattern. Done!
00:25:813 (1) - Remove NC, still part pf the previous pattern. Done!
01:02:309 (1) - What the hell is this, dont do that on Normal or Easy. Ok. No slowdown

Hard

00:16:449 (9) - Whoo.... this is so blind, move it in a different way to make it more visible.
Done!
01:08:042 (1) - Remove NC, not needed. Done!
01:08:615 (2) - NC for new part of vocal, then delete this NC 01:09:188 (1) - Done!
01:27:723 (1,2,3,4) - I would delete this part and make the spinner as on the other diffs. Done!

Insane

General
This is just so overmapped :<

Overall
00:20:080 (1) - NC not needed. Done!
00:26:386 (2) - NC for new part of the song, also this slowdown doesnt fit, again. NC Ok. I keep the slowdown.
00:28:870 (4,1) - Huge jump, dont you think? Reduced a bit
00:43:965 (4) - You did this again here, dont overlap tis and make it more visible. Done!
00:56:577 (1) - NC not needed. Done!
00:59:061 (2) - Too blind, move it so you can see it obviously. Done!
00:59:348 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - These streams are placed where no drum sound is given, so please add some other patterns to it. But sounds good for me :3.
01:01:832 (2) - Delete this and only keep 1 and 2, so it fits the music well. Done!
01:05:176 (8,1) - This jump is ok but i dont understand the 01:05:367 (1,2) - jump here, make a normal spacing.
Done!

Still needs a lot more improvement on Insane!
I'll do my best. :)
theramdans
Sorryyyyy for a very long delay, I have so much to do in real life and cant get my feelings into modding >.<, but I will try now

Here are just my suggestion, you can ignore it or follow it , and dont kudos if this wont be any help to you.
General
*I think the offset is better with 1927, if you use this then move the 0.75 slider speed that u put earlier (499) to this new timing.
*Turn off the kiai time at 01:14:920 and turn in back on at 01:15:302
Easy
I dont mod this, but just a tiny little thing, end the spinner at 01:28:869 (red tick)
Normal
Wow this looks great !. Cant find anything wrong, good job!. About the spinner at the end, same with Easy
Hard
01:21:044 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - wo wow these are too hard, make it simpler~
About the spinner at the end, same with Easy
Insane
00:55:822- NC
01:09:102- NC
About the spinner at the end, same with Easy

Ok, sorry if the mod is bad, good luck xD I think the Normal and Easy are too hard an too overmapped, Hard and Insane look fine. :(
Topic Starter
pkhg
I just changed this.

Rzax wrote:

*Turn off the kiai time at 01:14:920 and turn in back on at 01:15:302
I'll be happy with any mod. :)
Thanks.
BounceBabe
"00:26:386 - NEVER slowdown in an Easy or Normal, its no good when playing, it confuses new players too - Remove the slowdowns and adjust the spacing ( Easy + Normal ). Done!"

You didnt change the slowdown on Easy yet!

00:59:348 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - These streams are placed where no drum sound is given, so please add some other patterns to it. But sounds good for me :3.

Your choice but it really doesnt fit, and i appreciate more strict styles which have flow and are fitting, than overmapping.
Topic Starter
pkhg

BounceBabe wrote:

"00:26:386 - NEVER slowdown in an Easy or Normal, its no good when playing, it confuses new players too - Remove the slowdowns and adjust the spacing ( Easy + Normal ). Done!"

You didnt change the slowdown on Easy yet!

I didn't know how i can forgot that.
Done!


00:59:348 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - These streams are placed where no drum sound is given, so please add some other patterns to it. But sounds good for me :3.
Listen to the song here, pay a little more attention, I follow the drums on this part. Anyway, i change it a bit

Your choice but it really doesnt fit, and i appreciate more strict styles which have flow and are fitting, than overmapping.
Thanks :)
Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

Red: You must fix.
Blue: Suggestion.

[General]


  1. Isn't the artist supposed to seen as "Blue Drops" and not "blue drops"? (Correct me if i'm wrong.)
  2. Add "Heaven's Lost Property" to the tags. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Lost_Property

[Easy]


There are some unsnapped lines at:

  1. 00:00:508 - snap to 00:00:503.
  2. 01:00:125 - snap to 01:00:121.
  3. 01:14:920 - snap to 01:14:930.
  4. 01:15:302 - snap to 01:15:312.
Your audio lead-in is 1936 ms, round it off to 2000 ms.
00:06:522 (5) - Can you fix this slider so it could blanket (6) better.
00:10:344 (3) - Move this slider down a bit like this:
00:11:108 (1) - Move this up to (2) like this:
01:01:363 (2) - Unsnapped slider end.

[Normal]


There are some unsnapped lines at:

  1. 00:00:508 - snap to 00:00:503.
  2. 01:14:920 - snap to 01:14:930.
  3. 01:15:302 - snap to 01:15:312.
Your audio lead-in is 1172 ms, round it off to 2000 ms.
00:02:509 (4) - Fix this so it could blanket (3) better.
00:27:350 (3) - Fix this so it could blanket (2) better.
00:30:407 (2) - Fix this so it could blanket (1) better.
00:34:993 (4) - Fix this so it could blanket (3)'s slider end.
01:07:860 (4) - ^

[Hard]


There are some unsnapped lines at:

  1. 00:00:508 - snap to 00:00:503.
  2. 01:14:920 - snap to 01:14:930.
  3. 01:15:302 - snap to 01:15:312.
Your audio lead-in is 1172 ms, round it off to 2000 ms.

Nothing else major to find here.

[Insane]


There are some unsnapped lines at:

  1. 00:00:508 - snap to 00:00:503
Your audio lead-in is 1172 ms, round it off to 2000 ms.
00:12:446 (1) - Raise the red node of that slider up a grid to get a good blanket for (8).

Good luck!
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