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I just thought of this, what if instead of an official "Quality Checker" we can have each BN take it offline if they feel it's necessary. There's nothing stopping a BN from outsourcing their entire BN queue to a bunch ofmonkeys known acquaintances and boom, you have your quality checking system.
I just thought of this, what if instead of an official "Quality Checker" we can have each BN take it offline if they feel it's necessary. There's nothing stopping a BN from outsourcing their entire BN queue to a bunch of
abraker wrote:
I think this can be easily solved even now if nominators require mappers to have playtesters comment in discussion that they approve the map for ranking.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is supposedly what the Hype (formerly Star Priority) system is for. I say supposedly because I do admit that Hype is a poor indicator of map quality, and at times it feels more like a song popularity contest. The users hyping the map have zero modding experience (0 kudosu) and near-zero mapping experience.
I think we've also established that the problem we're trying to solve is the 'new mapper' low quality maps reaching BNs and wasting their time.
- These are very obvious issues that any half decent mapper/modder (i.e. the "Quality Checkers") can identify these issues before reaching the BN. Examples include:
- Wrong timing / mapping on 1/16 snap
- No sense of structure
- 100% hitsound volume
- Bad diff spread (lone Easy diff on a song that can have a bigger spread)
- The problem only occurs when the mapper has no ranked maps.
- After the first ranked map the mapper is expected to know better than to commit 'rookie mistakes'. There can still be other major quality problems, but they should not be as gross as the issues listed above. In such cases it can still go directly to the BN; our job is to filter out the issues listed above.
Tying all this together, I have but one proposal:
If a mapper has no ranked maps, only "Quality Checkers" may hype their maps.
This is to make Hype a more accurate indicator of map quality for new mappers. Experienced mappers can still have their popularity contest with no changes.
Additionally, I don't think managing "Quality Checkers" as an assigned role is a good idea. There seems to be a lot of work required in administering the role, which can further sap the BN's precious time. It should be an automatic criteria (like what xenal quoted earlier). New mapper issues are not that hard to identify so the barrier to entry does not need to be that high, but it must be sufficient to sieve out those who contribute to the mapping/modding community from those who want to hype maps just for the heck of it. The above quoted suggestion of 3 ranked maps and a handful of kudosu seems like a good idea, though it can be adjusted if needed.
Again, if any of my initial assumptions above are wrong, the proposal falls apart. Ignore me if that's the case.