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Camellia - Towards The Horizon

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Nerova Riuz GX
@Gottagof4st:
00:44:320 (1,2,3) - the pattern itself is to weave back on the first slider and tend to have a movement towards the second short one, so it fits the flute. if that happens, then 00:45:097 (1,2,3) - should do the same because it just repeat the same stuff with only some spice change. the pattern is flipped with nothing changed, so technically, it was made for the flute. As a reference, you can see 00:50:537 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - .

01:43:387 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - unlike the other typical flutes (e.g. 01:24:734 (1) - ), the flute itself is extremely long and wobbling here - it keeps switch between two pitches rapidly. Unfortunately, using 1/4 streams is quite unfit here. It's NOT that intense for the 1/4, so using a stream will break the overall concept. Having circular 1/4 slider pattern is more like a "compromise", to make a pattern fits the wobble but not that intense at the same time. As an extra note, using a circular pattern can effectively separate the pattern from 1/4 sliders in kiai. you can simply see the difference by comparing them.
Xinnoh
pls don't use the compressed version .-.

FruityEnLoops wrote:

From my queue!

[centre][Sinnoh's Normal]

SV seems a little bit too high. Fine though.
00:12:455 (4) - This one is almost out of the playfield. Move the head a little bit to the left with these 00:13:232 (1,2) - but it's not out of the playfield
00:31:496 (5,1) - You should resnap it to be closer to 1x distance snap. kk
00:50:926 (2) - Would look & flow better like this. 1. rip triangle 2. flow matters way less in a normal 3. slider shap variety
01:20:460 (1) - You should use grey combo, like in the Easy difficulty. there's no colour hax in this set as far as I can tell
01:55:045 (4) - You could rotate this slider so it doesn't overlap with 01:53:685 (2) - . if the slider was extended to 1/1 it would make an oval shape,
01:55:822 (1,2,3,4) - Isn't this 1/4 3/4 blue rythm too much for a Normal? ya but camellia is bonkers
but srs I've introduced a lot of 3/4s throughout the easy section before, I use specific slider shapes only on 3/4. There's enough to help the player read the 3/4

- titan wrote:

normal

00:16:341 (1,3) - these feel really close move (3) down or something idk kk
00:33:050 (3) - hard to read imo (stack it or like move it out from under that slider) fixed
00:45:486 (3,1) - blanket no it's my style

Kyle Y wrote:

Normal
  1. 00:21:781 (4,5) - 00:24:890 (4) - why not keep consistent? bc if i made it consistent an experienced modder would ask why I didn't make them different
  2. 00:33:050 (3) - will it hard to read for new players? alr changed
  3. 00:39:657 (3) - beat sound is on blue tick actually, will you consider to change into 3/4 reversed slider?+ good point for rhythm, but in terms of level design I want to introduce 3/4s in the easier section with less going on.
  4. 00:41:211 (1,2) - rhythm here is same as 00:47:429 (1,2) - , could you map it consistent? 00:48:983 (3) - has many violin sounds, 00:42:765 (3) - doesn't.
    Raising rhythm density on first one means more contrast, better emphasis on the 1/1 as one sound, rather than mapping multiple in next kiai
  5. 00:45:874 (1) - remove nc, you used nc for every 2 beats, why nc put here? ctb habits xP
  6. 00:54:715 - I think this beat is weak, and I would just ignore it becasue it is a claim part, it is better to keep rhythm as simply as you can. 3/4 introduction, keeping consistent with 00:57:532 (2) -
  7. 00:55:978 - this beat is quite strong, will it better to have clickable objects? All object are 1/2 apart aside from final one, keeps normal diff easy while using harder rhythms
  8. 01:15:408 (1,2) - I prefer to have map just a simple 3/2 slider becasue it can make comparison with 01:16:962 (3) - . If you put the rhythm simpler before, and denser at 01:16:962 (3) - , players will feel 01:16:962 (3) - is much more stronger than 01:15:408 (1,2) - , which fit songs more. ok, but used 1/1
  9. 01:51:936 (5,6) - it is a little bit hard to catch, but I like this rhythm.

ReFaller wrote:

NM from my queue.

[Sinnoh's Normal]
From rhythmical way seems good, but failed a bit with hitsounding.
00:17:118 (2) - you should listen Nerova's difficulties how he used drum-hitnormal sample as a kick. For this one sampleset should be default on white tick.
A few more examples where you made same mistake: I don't want to use the whistle because it doesn't suit the song, it sounds very weird to play with only hitsounds on the slider repeat/tail, so I added to the head to simplify for the sake of low difficulty.
00:18:672 (4)
00:20:227 (2)
00:21:781 (4) - even for circles
But check whole difficulty to find all of them, i am not going to do this, but i will check results of your work for it at last when you will going to fix.
01:22:403 (2) - 0,9x DS with previous note, gg this is 0.96, DS can be slightly variable for better aesthetics/playability. I used smaller distance because this section felt harder to play
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Only pasting the bottom half bc my computer can't handle japanese characters

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Lasse
seems a bit bland to have things like 00:03:905 - in the intro not hitsounded, even just placing some more whistles would be nice

top diff
00:28:193 - would be nicer to read if you kept this in the combo from before I think
00:33:245 (1) - you mapped clickable 1/6 before, so you could also make them clickable in a more intense part
or actually don't make the first 1/6 clickable cause all others are sliders

00:34:216 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm doesn't really fit, so unclear what you#re following cause if mixed multiple layers since there is no piano on 00:34:410 -
00:38:782 (2,1) - reads similar to perfectly stacked 1/4, but your 1/4s aren't perfectly stacked, doing http://i.imgur.com/FeCw0Fa.jpg would be nice
1/8 on spots like 00:46:166 (2) - could maybe even be followed similarly
01:15:408 (1,2,3,4) - why not try a rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/2EDgPwJ.jpg to make the melody stand out a bit, fully ignoring it doesn't fit well here#

01:33:672 (1,2,3,4) - stack feels a bit too "weak" when melody is still so strong, why not continue the pattern like http://i.imgur.com/Exp4O9H.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/Uz6NPQ2.jpg

01:51:936 (1,2,3,1,2) - why is this completely different from 00:34:216 (1,2,3,4) - ? piano plays the same thing and all but you treat it like it's something else
01:52:714 (1) - what is this following, it stops when the sounds actually get more audible


lavender
00:08:957 (2,3,4) - passive 1/4 spacing is really overdone in comparison to other intro patterns
00:25:667 - stream is so bland when the song has clear 1/2 emphasis :c
00:31:107 (4,5,6) - gross rhythm cause it mixed 2 layers, 00:29:553 (3,4) - made more sense // 00:37:519 (6) - this too
00:34:216 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same thing as top diff // 01:15:408 (1,2) - too

00:49:760 (1,4) - this looks so bad ingame, why not stack on 00:49:469 (2) - instead

mh something about this diff feels a bit forced, like you're trying to fit too many different concepts into it, most of them make sense if you look at them alone, but putting so many into 2 minutes end up a bit ??


zexous
00:33:245 (4,5,6) - 01:26:548 (2,3) - 01:38:983 (2,3) - you don't really need clickable 1/6 when not even the extras have them
diff is nice but the way you handle streamjumps makes the gap to hard so huge


hard
lol why did you map the intro more dense than on your highest diff
nice diff


sinnoh
ar5 should be enough, you have some dense patterns but bpm is low
01:21:626 - whole part is slider only, you could easily add some circles
diff could reflect intensity changes better by using different sv/spacing /density for less intense parts
for example 01:40:278 - part plays so similar to the more intense ones, something like replacing 01:41:056 (2) - 01:42:610 (4) - with 2 cricles each would make the rhythm there noticeably less dense
though you handles the 3/4 rhythm stuff pretty well


easy
00:25:667 (1) - ctrlg on this would be so much more intuitive for new players
00:33:439 (3) - should avoid touching gameplay elements on low diffs
why no ending spinner on this diff?
Topic Starter
Nerova Riuz GX

Lasse wrote:

seems a bit bland to have things like 00:03:905 - in the intro not hitsounded, even just placing some more whistles would be nice

top diff
00:28:193 - would be nicer to read if you kept this in the combo from before I think ok
00:33:245 (1) - you mapped clickable 1/6 before, so you could also make them clickable in a more intense part
or actually don't make the first 1/6 clickable cause all others are sliders a little bit weird on that - i was questioning my self about that too but I decided to make the particular 1/6 clickable. If it's implemented like the others, then it basically just shared the same property and dont really stand out as 1/6s imo. the other ones are typical 1/6 holds, which has bunch of 1/4 high sv sliders as contexts. they didn't really share the same property here since in higher sv people used to put more effort on following the whole slider bodies on 1/4s. that's why the 1/6s are intentionally slowed down so they can do the work better.

00:34:216 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm doesn't really fit, so unclear what you#re following cause if mixed multiple layers since there is no piano on 00:34:410 - I did that for consistency's sake (00:40:434 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ), and having a stream jump cuz it has a stronger snare drum.
00:38:782 (2,1) - reads similar to perfectly stacked 1/4, but your 1/4s aren't perfectly stacked, doing http://i.imgur.com/FeCw0Fa.jpg would be nice good point
1/8 on spots like 00:46:166 (2) - could maybe even be followed similarly i actually feel they are not that clear for me to follow tbh
01:15:408 (1,2,3,4) - why not try a rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/2EDgPwJ.jpg to make the melody stand out a bit, fully ignoring it doesn't fit well here# p. good idea

01:33:672 (1,2,3,4) - stack feels a bit too "weak" when melody is still so strong, why not continue the pattern like http://i.imgur.com/Exp4O9H.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/Uz6NPQ2.jpg The pattern you gave is quite intense, but it doesn't really give 01:34:061 (1) - much impact since the movement is much more complex. (Also having them stacked can somehow make less misses here so i liked the settings.)

01:51:936 (1,2,3,1,2) - why is this completely different from 00:34:216 (1,2,3,4) - ? piano plays the same thing and all but you treat it like it's something else they actually shared the same concept: having a stream jump or make change when there's a snare drum.
01:52:714 (1) - what is this following, it stops when the sounds actually get more audible the difference starts at 01:52:714 - so I put a hold right there. the hold itself made a breakdown following to the sudden change. It's not good to follow all the tiny sounds because that will make this part way too intense. with the general concept of density change, the object works in a particular way.
thanks for the mod!
Lavender

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

Extra

结果忒产大姐姐还是开了这首曲子了
  1. 00:09:734 (5) - 普通单note就行了吧 跟1/6没啥不对,打起来也是一样的
  2. 00:21:684 (3) - 这里下一下音效 k
    00:23:335 (3) - ^
  3. 00:55:201 (1) - 这里最好是从00:55:298 - 这里开始用1/8三连的滑条,增加一些节奏感(?
    01:01:418 (1) - ^ 想了想懒得动了

Lasse wrote:

lavender
00:08:957 (2,3,4) - passive 1/4 spacing is really overdone in comparison to other intro patterns 00:15:175 (2,3,4) - other intro pattern, this kind of pattern is still peaceful stuff imo
00:25:667 - stream is so bland when the song has clear 1/2 emphasis :c This stream is way harder than its look (at least for me), so I guess it's fine here
00:31:107 (4,5,6) - gross rhythm cause it mixed 2 layers, 00:29:553 (3,4) - made more sense // 00:37:519 (6) - this too
I know what you mean, I struggled here too when I mapped this, but keeping 00:31:302 (6) - empty feels kinda weird for me, I guess maybe it's 00:29:844 (1,2,3,4,5) - which strikes after first doubles makes 00:29:747 - this gap clearer.

00:34:216 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same thing as top diff // 01:15:408 (1,2) - too Seems I don't need to keep that consistency to the next level since current one actually fits music and plays fine.

00:49:760 (1,4) - this looks so bad ingame, why not stack on 00:49:469 (2) - instead That's actually messier, but I rotated 00:49:372 (1,2,3,4,1) - a bit for a better look

mh something about this diff feels a bit forced, like you're trying to fit too many different concepts into it, most of them make sense if you look at them alone, but putting so many into 2 minutes end up a bit ?? That's why it is called Extra but not Insane or Extreme, and I did try to keep rhythm/pattern consistency
For stack leniency things, I want to use SL0 at first, but looks like it's way too harder than top diff, so let's keep the perfect stack challange to HR.
To Nerova: If you made your top diff easier, just set CS to 4.2
Something
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Thanks for modding!
Xinnoh

Lasse wrote:

sinnoh
ar5 should be enough, you have some dense patterns but bpm is low k
01:21:626 - whole part is slider only, you could easily add some circles holy moly why has no one pointed this out, i added some at 01:32:506 (3) - but can't really find a place for any others
diff could reflect intensity changes better by using different sv/spacing /density for less intense parts TIL sv changes are rankable in normal. Changed SV for whole diff (tedious but ok makes sense to do it). Didn't change and spacing because I'd have to remap to fit within borders, fine without spacing changes since SV does that anyway
for example 01:40:278 - part plays so similar to the more intense ones, something like replacing 01:41:056 (2) - 01:42:610 (4) - with 2 cricles each would make the rhythm there noticeably less dense ok
though you handles the 3/4 rhythm stuff pretty well thanks Pishi for the guides and Akitoshi for teaching me normals
here we go now
[code

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ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.2
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Hold up lemme speed mod

Top diff
00:27:416 (1) - Use a different combo colour, this is hard to read because orange/yellow blend so doing that would make it easier.
00:43:737 (2) - Moving this down and 00:43:931 (3) - to the right gives sharper angle + easier to follow
01:05:887 (1) - try this? https://puu.sh/x6iCq/50cde1afb9.png
01:25:414 (2) - Is it possible to change the curve to follow flow? Really hard for me to aim with speed + spacing is already enough emphasis
01:43:387 (1) - Increase spacing in this section? Feels kinda clunky

Lavender
00:21:684 (3) - 00:23:335 (3) - No drum-hitnomals?

Sinnoh
perfect diff greatest normal ever
Lavender
That hitsound issue has been fixed in the previous post

Sinnoh wrote:

Sinnoh
perfect diff greatest normal ever
Topic Starter
Nerova Riuz GX

Sinnoh wrote:

Hold up lemme speed mod

Top diff
00:27:416 (1) - Use a different combo colour, this is hard to read because orange/yellow blend so doing that would make it easier. used gray on the single note, should be better now
00:43:737 (2) - Moving this down and 00:43:931 (3) - to the right gives sharper angle + easier to follow actually I don't think the current one should be changed, the speed itself is fine for such a wide angle. (also that 1/4 slider right before made it easier too)
01:05:887 (1) - try this? https://puu.sh/x6iCq/50cde1afb9.png somehow I don't want to make it clickable at all LOL
01:25:414 (2) - Is it possible to change the curve to follow flow? Really hard for me to aim with speed + spacing is already enough emphasis didn't feel into it cuz it's made intentionally
01:43:387 (1) - Increase spacing in this section? Feels kinda clunky a square can possibly becomes anyone's nightmare, but CS3 + sliders give more tolerance. Increasing the spacing might possibly ruin the overall concept, so I'll keep them for now
Alright let's wait for Zexous kek

Sinnoh wrote:

Sinnoh
perfect diff greatest normal ever
faygo
hello NM~

[A Tale from the Wayfarer]
u used a lot of NCs particularly between 00:28:776 - 00:53:646, but im not sure if some are really necessary. for example 00:29:942 (1,2), 00:42:377 (1,2), 00:48:594 (1,2), 00:49:372 (1,2,3)
cuz now its messy in terms of NCs and im not sure what u particularly want to emphasize in these parts

00:41:211 (1): why emphasize this with 1.8sv but not emphasize 00:28:776 tho, they're the same sound. I would even say that u should probably emphasize 00:28:776 instead because of the stronger impact
00:46:651 (3,4,1,2): looks nicer if symmetrical but thats just my opinion
00:49:177 (3,1): shouldn't there be an increasing spacing between this set and 00:49:663 (3,1) instead of decreasing
01:24:540 (3): i think a decreasing spacing between these 3 sets of sliders represents the music better, and u did that for 01:36:587 so :think
01:25:317 (1,2,3): (http://i.imgur.com/66lFtQg.jpg) i think a circular flow here flows better or is it intentional for emphasis of the flute
01:44:164 (1,2,3,4): maybe spice things for a bit with like ds / sv increase...? the flute is increasing in intensity as well anyway


[Lavender's Extra]
the 0.97 green tick triggered me

00:13:523 (1,2): i think using the slider end to represent the high pitched violin doesn really work well, for me i think a circle will reflect the strong sound better
00:17:506 (4): why this large spacing with (3)
00:25:667 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4): this stream is lit
00:28:776 (1): why map this sound 00:29:164 with slider end while others simply use another slider
00:38:879 - 00:39:511: i really think u should probably map something here
00:47:817 (3,4): inconsistent spacing
01:18:905: i think you joined the incoming increasing sound a bit late, maybe add a slider here too? (http://i.imgur.com/cZm3oij.jpg)
01:23:957 (1,2,1,2): maybe increase ds by a bit cuz it feels underwhelming to play now considering its kiai and u just got some rather hard jump streams beforehand
01:25:900 (1): i would probably disable NC here + 01:26:677 and NC at 01:26:289 cuz the NC in 01:26:677 feels very weird as there are not really anything of emphasis + not particularly a new section
01:27:066 (3,4,5,6): i think spacing should be in decreasing trend here

really like this diff though, good job!

[Zexous' Insane]
00:30:913 (3): move closer to (2) for consistency and emphasis of the high pitched sound?
not much to say, solid diff




every insane diff has their unique elements which provide different experiences for players and i think the ranked category definitely needs more mapsets like these
sorry for short mod though

btw is the sr gap between hard and zexous' insane legal
Topic Starter
Nerova Riuz GX
sry for late reply because i was on a business trip

Faygor wrote:

hello NM~

[A Tale from the Wayfarer]
u used a lot of NCs particularly between 00:28:776 - 00:53:646, but im not sure if some are really necessary. for example 00:29:942 (1,2), 00:42:377 (1,2), 00:48:594 (1,2), 00:49:372 (1,2,3)
cuz now its messy in terms of NCs and im not sure what u particularly want to emphasize in these parts
NC density itself follows the map density in a particular way. Also, it's quite important since it actually balanced the HP so the drain is controlled.

00:41:211 (1): why emphasize this with 1.8sv but not emphasize 00:28:776 tho, they're the same sound. I would even say that u should probably emphasize 00:28:776 instead because of the stronger impact "Emphasizing" is created when there's something appears significantly, or stand out from its context. When all the objects before 00:28:776 (1) - are much slower than 1.50x, the slider itself is already an emphasizing. there's no need to make a 1.8x boost.
00:46:651 (3,4,1,2): looks nicer if symmetrical but thats just my opinion it's symmetrical but slightly tilted
00:49:177 (3,1): shouldn't there be an increasing spacing between this set and 00:49:663 (3,1) instead of decreasing well the triplets are in increasing spacings...
01:24:540 (3): i think a decreasing spacing between these 3 sets of sliders represents the music better, and u did that for 01:36:587 so :think the most significant thing here is that the sliders works with a back-and-forth intense flow. the first one contains more on changing angles, so technically it should works the same as the second one. Decreasing spacing works better with the pitch, but for here I prefer representing that long slider the most.
01:25:317 (1,2,3): (http://i.imgur.com/66lFtQg.jpg) i think a circular flow here flows better or is it intentional for emphasis of the flute the second, of course.
01:44:164 (1,2,3,4): maybe spice things for a bit with like ds / sv increase...? the flute is increasing in intensity as well anyway didn't really think that's necessary, and i did some explanation on this before.

every insane diff has their unique elements which provide different experiences for players and i think the ranked category definitely needs more mapsets like these
sorry for short mod though

btw is the sr gap between hard and zexous' insane legal
That's a good question.
The diff gap looks kinda big on sr, but imo it's actually fine. the hard diff has a bunch of doubles, which I think is much harder than usual triples that appears in typical hard diffs. The settings and readability requirements make it plays harder than the sr looks like. I personally think it's fine, but that should be doubtful. I'll leave this problem to the bns and see how it goes.
Lavender

Faygor wrote:

hello NM~
[Lavender's Extra]
the 0.97 green tick triggered me

00:13:523 (1,2): i think using the slider end to represent the high pitched violin doesn really work well, for me i think a circle will reflect the strong sound better Both are ok
00:17:506 (4): why this large spacing with (3) For aesthetic
00:25:667 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4): this stream is lit
00:28:776 (1): why map this sound 00:29:164 with slider end while others simply use another slider Because this is the first one, building up.
00:38:879 - 00:39:511: i really think u should probably map something here Consider, will check other people's opinion
00:47:817 (3,4): inconsistent spacing For symmetry
01:18:905: i think you joined the incoming increasing sound a bit late, maybe add a slider here too? (http://i.imgur.com/cZm3oij.jpg) That would make this transition harder
01:23:957 (1,2,1,2): maybe increase ds by a bit cuz it feels underwhelming to play now considering its kiai and u just got some rather hard jump streams beforehand hard to change now so mehhh
01:25:900 (1): i would probably disable NC here + 01:26:677 and NC at 01:26:289 cuz the NC in 01:26:677 feels very weird as there are not really anything of emphasis + not particularly a new section Current one is fine i guess
01:27:066 (3,4,5,6): i think spacing should be in decreasing trend here Why? Music does not decrease here

really like this diff though, good job! Thanks!
Thank you for modding!
I changed 00:18:089 (2,3,4) - to avoid auto stacking.
Something
osu file format v14

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Title:Towards The Horizon
TitleUnicode:Towards The Horizon
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Nerova Riuz GX
Version:Lavender's Extra
Source:REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags:RB Illusiya イルシヤ 6th KONAMI Arcade Championship KAC bemani The Reflesia of Eternity drumstep folk Zexous Sinnoh Lavender [Teichan]
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This mapset seems to end up nowhere
Izzywing
This is probably my favorite camellia song, it so sick
Topic Starter
Nerova Riuz GX
okokok i revived it and updated
Xinnoh
owo
BOUYAAA
here is my mod

rank it already
Xinnoh
I'll just respond for zexous, trying to keep it consistent with the original map but doing very minor changes to address the mods.

Lasse wrote:

zexous
00:33:245 (4,5,6) - 01:26:548 (2,3) - 01:38:983 (2,3) - you don't really need clickable 1/6 when not even the extras have them Changed the first, but leaving the others since they are only triples, the first was quad + Zexous really likes active 1/6
diff is nice but the way you handle streamjumps makes the gap to hard so huge I reduced distance snap on streamjumps by ~0.1x each

Faygor wrote:

[Zexous' Insane]
00:30:913 (3): move closer to (2) for consistency and emphasis of the high pitched sound? 00:36:353 (2) - Is actually further when considering slider heads since these are 1/4 sliders, head is more important than tail regarding distance. Should be fine.
not much to say, solid diff

btw is the sr gap between hard and zexous' insane legal it's a bit better

BOUYAAA wrote:

rank it already rank valkyrie attack
please don't kill me zex
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Topic Starter
Nerova Riuz GX
Actually on top of that respond, I'll just ask Zexous himself before importing that change.

though somehow this get stuck for "some reason" aka REALLIFESUCKS, he still have the right to apply the changes or not.
lets wait for a couple of days and see how it goes.
Zexous

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

REALLIFESUCKS
big props to nrg for his patience, school fucks me in the butthole on the daily

I actually looked at this old mod back then but I guess I forgot to respond to it so here's a response...just for posterity

Lasse wrote:

zexous
00:33:245 (4,5,6) - 01:26:548 (2,3) - 01:38:983 (2,3) - you don't really need clickable 1/6 when not even the extras have them i don't want to gloss over the 1/6 by not mapping it at all and honestly a 1/6 slider would fuck a player up more imo, since it would need to be 3 repeats to be a proper buzz and that leaves a 1/6 gap
diff is nice but the way you handle streamjumps makes the gap to hard so huge thanks, also eat my ass

faygo wrote:

[Zexous' Insane]
00:30:913 (3): move closer to (2) for consistency and emphasis of the high pitched sound? both sounds are emphasized...that's why they're separated. to move one note closer to another implies the second note doesn't carry much emphasis, since you're not requiring much movement to it
not much to say, solid diff
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh feels weird to have no change after coming back but
no change xd
Lasse
lavender
00:31:107 (4,5,6) - still feels really unfitting with the song prioritizing blue tick so much, just do something like https://i.imgur.com/Ksj75Co.jpg ?
00:37:325 (4,5,6) - ^
song plays clear doubles in melody, so mapping them would be much nicer than bland triples that mix multiple things into one rhythm

other things are alright to me, but I won't bubble with these since they completely misrepresent the song



zexous's intro seems to be missing hs until 00:16:341 -
and volume in some parts, like 00:16:341 - seems way too low (other diffs make more sense here hs wise)
Zexous

Lasse wrote:

zexous's intro seems to be missing hs until 00:16:341 - not missing, there's a few but mine is a different rhythm from the others, but i added some i guess
and volume in some parts, like 00:16:341 - seems way too low (other diffs make more sense here hs wise) upped volume of that section by 10%
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Lasse
Nozhomi
Will be quite picky so don't worry.
[Easy :]
  1. For flow, move 00:25:278 (4) - at 224:208 and 00:53:258 (3) - to 88:128.
  2. 00:41:211 (1) - This slider looks quite awful considering your slider / construction choice here. Even smth like https://puu.sh/AAa2d/bb6e9be71a.png would fit more your style.
[Sinnoh's Normal :]
  1. 00:44:708 (2) - For any player with a 4/3 res, this slider is quite overlapping lifebar. Would be nice to move it a bit lower.
  2. 01:53:685 (2,3,4) - This pattern is quite complex to read for that player level. It would be better to simplify it !
[Hard :]
  1. Just two things, one is avoid triplet stack under slider tails because it's a bit painful for a Hard to read. Second one is stack leniency that low makes 1/1 stacks being completely stacked, and imo that's not really appropriated for that kind of diff. It's already pain to play and read, and in Hard diff it's just super meh.
[Hello Zexous' Insane :]
  1. 00:33:245 (4) - Just wish you could make these these 1/6 more standing out than they are, because it could be easiely readed as 1/4 tbh, especially on an Insane.
[A Tale from the Wayfarer :]
  1. 00:27:221 (1,1) - Imo that transition is not really good, I always missread that as a 1/4 gap and not 1/2 due to stacking. Would be nice to make it more readable.

Wished your lower diffs could be as cute than your last diff, but well.
Desu back.

Mukyu~
Xinnoh

Nozhomi wrote:

[Sinnoh's Normal :]
  1. 00:44:708 (2) - For any player with a 4/3 res, this slider is quite overlapping lifebar. Would be nice to move it a bit lower. doesn't matter much since no one plays 4:3 + it would take effort to fix
  2. 01:53:685 (2,3,4) - This pattern is quite complex to read for that player level. It would be better to simplify it ! fix
okokok fixed

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Nozhomi
then do a small effort to fix it~
Thx~
Topic Starter
Nerova Riuz GX
Sorry for late reply, irl still sucks as always

Nozhomi wrote:

Will be quite picky so don't worry.
[Easy :]
  1. For flow, move 00:25:278 (4) - at 224:208 and 00:53:258 (3) - to 88:128. done
  2. 00:41:211 (1) - This slider looks quite awful considering your slider / construction choice here. Even smth like https://puu.sh/AAa2d/bb6e9be71a.png would fit more your style. i actually...deleted a node there by an accident after an upload.
[Hard :]
  1. Just two things, one is avoid triplet stack under slider tails because it's a bit painful for a Hard to read. Second one is stack leniency that low makes 1/1 stacks being completely stacked, and imo that's not really appropriated for that kind of diff. It's already pain to play and read, and in Hard diff it's just super meh. I'll keep that in mind. currently made every 1/4 manually spaced (0.3x) so it won't look crumbled.
[A Tale from the Wayfarer :]
  1. 00:27:221 (1,1) - Imo that transition is not really good, I always missread that as a 1/4 gap and not 1/2 due to stacking. Would be nice to make it more readable. weird since you're the only one who said that. I'll keep it now.

Wished your lower diffs could be as cute than your last diff, but well. idk because I mapped low diffs way later than I did the highest one xd
Desu back.

Mukyu~ Mukyu~
updated!
calling Zexous!
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