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Shiirn

Garden wrote:

When 'improvements' in your eyes are made, probably the difficulty would simply go further from what the mapper wants to create in his initial mapping concept.
If the mapping concept is to badly represent the music, it has no place in ranked. Leave it as an unranked training diff. I don't think this concept is very hard.

This game is about music. You work with the music. You don't ignore it and do random "feeling" mapping that is closer to a child painting with their own poop than actual art.

There can be purpose and reason to feeling. Feelings are not random. They have logic. Thus, maps should have logic.
Syph
well like he kinda removed the diff so.. he is leaving it unranked? s:
_handholding

Shiirn wrote:

You don't ignore it and do random "feeling"

Shiirn wrote:

Feelings are not random. They have logic. Thus, maps should have logic.
unless you clarify a bit more sone people won't understand what you truly mean
Topic Starter
Erisan

Shiirn wrote:

Garden wrote:

When 'improvements' in your eyes are made, probably the difficulty would simply go further from what the mapper wants to create in his initial mapping concept.
If the mapping concept is to badly represent the music, it has no place in ranked. Leave it as an unranked training diff. I don't think this concept is very hard.

This game is about music. You work with the music. You don't ignore it and do random "feeling" mapping that is closer to a child painting with their own poop than actual art.

There can be purpose and reason to feeling. Feelings are not random. They have logic. Thus, maps should have logic.
yes, whatever you think that is your opinion. and we all have own opinions on stuff.
I'd respect your opinion but since its all about opinion there is no true answer.
you seems like think i'm wrong, but thats also means you can be wrong as well, since its just opinion.
random feeling? child painting?
your words are like you are criticizing any kind of creative stuff you don't like for shitty reason.
for example, i don't really like deathmetal songs. then i get right to criticize deathmetal songs?
well, i don't think so. but your words basically says i can criticize them because i can't understand their goodness
sounds not good for me so they are shit and must be changed.

you should really know that everyone feels different way. think why there are words like 'Preference'

And I don't want to using here to discuss this kind of stuff, if you have anything to say, PM me
Kinomi
I really suggest someone here being more strict to themselves and being more tolerant to others, it's wonderful to your life.
Actually deleting diffs for rank (or being tired) has nothing wrong with your strange self-esteem.
The truth is that responsibility always belongs to both sides of you, don't try to find ways to push all responsibility to the mapper.
That's why someone sucks.
Mir
Garden notified me of the reply.

[Cookiezi's Insane]
- 00:06:258 - Inaudible. I don't know what happened here but there is legitimately nothing on this.
- 00:33:732 - Still a bit questionable about skipping this.. how about: https://puu.sh/xBaDA/8bda42e9b6.png ?
- 00:36:258 (5,6) - Ctrl+G this rhythm to follow the vocals better?
- 00:46:679 - This is quite a strong beat. Perhaps you can make this clickable with ctrl+g on 00:46:521 (4,1) - ?
- 00:58:205 (1) - This could use more emphasis considering the kiai starts here. Probably more spacing would good.
- 00:58:363 (2,3) - More emphasis on 3 and less on 2 seems more appropriate. Something like https://puu.sh/xBaKq/61babd0115.png ?
- 01:03:890 (3) - Ctrl+g might play nicer to continue the circular flow. That would put more emphasis on 01:04:521 (1) - as well due to the flow change.

Much improvement it seems like. I'm okay with this going through now though this is just some extra stuff.

[Re:TraumenD]
- 01:06:258 - 01:06:890 - Inaudible. Probably due to the drum hitsound being too soft here? If I change it to soft it sounds fine so I'm not too sure what's wrong here but I can't hear it. Wait a sec.. is this supposed to have 35% volume?

There's some weird volume stuff going on lol.

The diffs in question are fine to me now, so take these suggestions as suggestions only. I'm lifting the veto, so feel free to get a rebubble from Garden. I wish you luck in further processing and thank you for your cooperation!
Topic Starter
Erisan

Mir wrote:

Garden notified me of the reply.

[Cookiezi's Insane]
- 00:06:258 - Inaudible. I don't know what happened here but there is legitimately nothing on this.
- 00:33:732 - Still a bit questionable about skipping this.. how about: https://puu.sh/xBaDA/8bda42e9b6.png ?
- 00:36:258 (5,6) - Ctrl+G this rhythm to follow the vocals better?
- 00:46:679 - This is quite a strong beat. Perhaps you can make this clickable with ctrl+g on 00:46:521 (4,1) - ?
- 00:58:205 (1) - This could use more emphasis considering the kiai starts here. Probably more spacing would good.
- 00:58:363 (2,3) - More emphasis on 3 and less on 2 seems more appropriate. Something like https://puu.sh/xBaKq/61babd0115.png ?
- 01:03:890 (3) - Ctrl+g might play nicer to continue the circular flow. That would put more emphasis on 01:04:521 (1) - as well due to the flow change.

Much improvement it seems like. I'm okay with this going through now though this is just some extra stuff.

:arrow: all fixed

[Re:TraumenD]
- 01:06:258 - 01:06:890 - Inaudible. Probably due to the drum hitsound being too soft here? If I change it to soft it sounds fine so I'm not too sure what's wrong here but I can't hear it. Wait a sec.. is this supposed to have 35% volume?

:arrow: volume 35%20% fixed 

There's some weird volume stuff going on lol.

The diffs in question are fine to me now, so take these suggestions as suggestions only. I'm lifting the veto, so feel free to get a rebubble from Garden. I wish you luck in further processing and thank you for your cooperation!
ty mir
Mir

eLy wrote:

:arrow: volume 35%20% fixed 
My point was more it should be audible so raise the volume instead of lowering it cuz:

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense.
So increase 01:06:258 - to 70% like the others?

Also for Cookiezi's diff: 00:06:258 - was fine as a slider it was more for the hitsound volume like the topdiff.
Topic Starter
Erisan

Mir wrote:

eLy wrote:

:arrow: volume 35%20% fixed 
My point was more it should be audible so raise the volume instead of lowering it cuz:

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense.
So increase 01:06:258 - to 70% like the others?

Also for Cookiezi's diff: 00:06:258 - was fine as a slider it was more for the hitsound volume like the topdiff.

:arrow: 70% changed ~
-Atri-
I am not sure does vellya/alyce/5hiki remapped his diff into alyce's extra

But right now the package is kinda bugged as it appears the difficulty is not the latest version

i clicked on it and deletes the whole diff

maybe updating it again will help
Topic Starter
Erisan

Firis Mistlud wrote:

I am not sure does vellya/alyce/5hiki remapped his diff into alyce's extra

But right now the package is kinda bugged as it appears the difficulty is not the latest version

i clicked on it and deletes the whole diff

maybe updating it again will help
updateしても改善されない・・・

修正済
-Atri-
それは大変ですね。。。バグしたかもしれない
Jun Maeda
eLy good luck with ur amazing beatmap i hope ur beatmap will be ranked soon ♥♥♥
audinor
holy
Garden
many of the new keysounding samples have a delay over 5ms: https://puu.sh/yiIoK/3ba5617907.png
modding assistant reports
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
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drum-hitwhistle29.wav
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also 5hiki should be added to tags since the alyce/vellya diff mapper changed the name it seems

Easy:
01:33:732 (1) - seems you remove the old clap hitsound from the folder and the current default one sounds really weird here, use default whistle or sth else instead

rest looks ok
Topic Starter
Erisan

Garden wrote:

many of the new keysounding samples have a delay over 5ms: https://puu.sh/yiIoK/3ba5617907.png
modding assistant reports
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
drum-hitfinish52.wav
drum-hitwhistle29.wav
drum-hitwhistle32.wav
drum-hitwhistle37.wav
drum-hitwhistle50.wav
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:arrow: fix

also 5hiki should be added to tags since the alyce/vellya diff mapper changed the name it seems

:arrow: fix

Easy:
01:33:732 (1) - seems you remove the old clap hitsound from the folder and the current default one sounds really weird here, use default whistle or sth else instead

:arrow: fix

rest looks ok
thank you for recheck Garden ;) !
Garden
:D
Xinnoh
mapset filesize is 31.7mb, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be to hard to compress one or two backgrounds to keep it under the 30mb threshold?
Topic Starter
Erisan

Sinnoh wrote:

mapset filesize is 31.7mb, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be to hard to compress one or two backgrounds to keep it under the 30mb threshold?
This is fine, but is it no good :? ?

I'm sorry if it was a rude sentence because I am using translation :o
-Atri-
Lets hope we don't get popped again (@@;)
Satellite
pop soon
Friedii
This is a Good map <3
_handholding
Top
  1. 00:07:363 (4,1) - decrease spacing like other 1/4 beats. like 00:09:890 (1,2)
  2. 01:32:942 - If you make this beat clickable it would play better
  3. 01:33:574 (5) - NC this to give more hp for spinner
Alyce
  1. 00:45:258 (3,1) - Hard to read this 1/4 slider because the spacing is so high
  2. 01:32:311 (2) - wave slider? It would look prettier imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713598
Rizia
  1. hp 6
Momoka
  1. 01:36:100 (1) - delete finish and add whistle
Vellya
  1. 00:56:942 (1) - delete finish
Light Insane
  1. 00:56:784 (1) - extend slider to 00:57:574 . Then delete 00:57:574 (1) -
  2. 01:07:679 (4) - 2 circles would fit the rhythm better here
Wring
  1. 00:16:758 (2) - add normal sampleset
  2. 01:05:784 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Make this easier
  3. 01:33:574 (5) - NC this to give more hp for spinner
Normal
  1. 01:12:574 - A circle here would play nicely
  2. 01:33:574 (3) - NC
Easy
  1. 00:05:153 (1) - Add reverse
  2. 00:55:679 (1,2) - delete these. Add spinner from 00:55:679 to 00:56:784 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713736
  3. 01:07:679 (2) - don't have the tail so close to 01:05:784 (1) . Hard to read for beginners
  4. 01:15:890 (1,2) - use this rhythm, much better for an easy https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713750
  5. 01:23:469 (1) - Extend to 01:24:100
  6. 01:31:048 (1) - I recommend using this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/Efyz2a6.png
Do all that and I rank
martyur

Kisses wrote:

Top
  1. 00:07:363 (4,1) - decrease spacing like other 1/4 beats. like 00:09:890 (1,2)
  2. 01:32:942 - If you make this beat clickable it would play better
  3. 01:33:574 (5) - NC this to give more hp for spinner
Alyce
  1. 00:45:258 (3,1) - Hard to read this 1/4 slider because the spacing is so high
  2. 01:32:311 (2) - wave slider? It would look prettier imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713598
Rizia
  1. hp 6
Momoka
  1. 01:36:100 (1) - delete finish and add whistle
Vellya
  1. 00:56:942 (1) - delete finish
Light Insane
  1. 00:56:784 (1) - extend slider to 00:57:574 . Then delete 00:57:574 (1) -
  2. 01:07:679 (4) - 2 circles would fit the rhythm better here
Wring
  1. 00:16:758 (2) - add normal sampleset
  2. 01:05:784 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Make this easier
  3. 01:33:574 (5) - NC this to give more hp for spinner
Normal
  1. 01:12:574 - A circle here would play nicely
  2. 01:33:574 (3) - NC
Easy
  1. 00:05:153 (1) - Add reverse
  2. 00:55:679 (1,2) - delete these. Add spinner from 00:55:679 to 00:56:784 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713736
  3. 01:07:679 (2) - don't have the tail so close to 01:05:784 (1) . Hard to read for beginners
  4. 01:15:890 (1,2) - use this rhythm, much better for an easy https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713750
  5. 01:23:469 (1) - Extend to 01:24:100
  6. 01:31:048 (1) - I recommend using this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/Efyz2a6.png
Do all that and I rank
Child says will rank finna sonic blast for that rank aMIRITE
Homura-

Kisses wrote:

Normal
  1. 01:12:574 - A circle here would play nicely
    :arrow: follow vocals
  2. 01:33:574 (3) - NC
    :arrow: fix
Do all that and I rank
thanks Kisses
http://puu.sh/yBTS2.osu
wring

Kisses wrote:

Wring
  1. 00:16:758 (2) - add normal sampleset
  2. 01:05:784 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Make this easier
  3. 01:33:574 (5) - NC this to give more hp for spinner
k,thanks mod
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296,178,82205,6,0,P|332:121|321:50,2,140,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,332,83153,1,2,0:0:0:0:
127,158,83469,6,0,P|195:147|258:177,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
338,153,83942,2,0,B|345:204|345:204|322:233|322:233|330:283,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,348,84416,2,0,L|244:278,1,70,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
163,243,84732,6,0,P|188:180|254:162,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
338,153,85205,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,96,85363,2,0,P|329:94|258:62,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
50,162,85995,6,0,P|121:164|192:196,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
349,374,86627,2,0,P|381:316|329:283,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
257,239,87100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
331,199,87258,6,0,P|392:169|474:177,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,215,87890,2,0,P|113:217|49:179,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
247,68,88521,6,0,B|328:58|357:128|345:190|258:206|258:206|284:205|312:218|324:248|309:280|323:321|350:335|350:335|377:339,1,420,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,215,89784,2,0,P|189:285|193:362,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,75,90416,2,0,P|171:142|181:222,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
317,116,91048,6,0,P|389:110|442:152,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,328,91679,2,0,P|358:258|364:187,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
173,145,92311,2,0,P|103:155|32:131,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
238,92,92942,5,2,0:0:0:0:
238,92,93100,1,2,0:0:0:0:
270,169,93258,1,2,0:0:0:0:
229,242,93416,1,2,0:0:0:0:
262,318,93574,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,93732,12,0,96100,0:0:0:0:
DeRandom Otaku
I am late ig
Topic Starter
Erisan

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

I am late ig
ooh sorry DeRandom Otaku T^T
ikaNyai
:pR ay:
Topic Starter
Erisan

Kisses wrote:

Top
  1. 00:07:363 (4,1) - decrease spacing like other 1/4 beats. like 00:09:890 (1,2)
    :arrow: fix
  2. 01:32:942 - If you make this beat clickable it would play better
    :arrow: this slider is 「e」, not change
  3. 01:33:574 (5) - NC this to give more hp for spinner
    :arrow: fix
Alyce
  1. 00:45:258 (3,1) - Hard to read this 1/4 slider because the spacing is so high
    :arrow: It does not change, because it matches the strength of the song
  2. 01:32:311 (2) - wave slider? It would look prettier imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713598
    :arrow: i don't think so
Rizia
  1. hp 6
    :arrow: fix
Momoka
  1. 01:36:100 (1) - delete finish and add whistle
    :arrow: fix
Vellya
  1. 00:56:942 (1) - delete finish
    :arrow: deleted finishadd clap (piano sound)
Light Insane
  1. 00:56:784 (1) - extend slider to 00:57:574 . Then delete 00:57:574 (1) -
    :arrow: fix
  2. 01:07:679 (4) - 2 circles would fit the rhythm better here
    :arrow: fix
Easy
  1. 00:05:153 (1) - Add reverse
    :arrow: fix
  2. 00:55:679 (1,2) - delete these. Add spinner from 00:55:679 to 00:56:784 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713736
    :arrow: 00:55:679 - to 00:57:574 - changed
  3. 01:07:679 (2) - don't have the tail so close to 01:05:784 (1) . Hard to read for beginners
    :arrow: 01:05:784 (1,2,3,4) - change rhythm
  4. 01:15:890 (1,2) - use this rhythm, much better for an easy https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9713750
    :arrow: fix
  5. 01:23:469 (1) - Extend to 01:24:100
    :arrow: fix
  6. 01:31:048 (1) - I recommend using this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/Efyz2a6.png
    :arrow: fix
Do all that and I rank
updated, thank you Kisses !!
Topic Starter
Erisan

ikaNyai wrote:

:pR ay:
なりそう!!!!!
Pachiru

Kisses wrote:

Do all that and I rank
daaaaaaamn
schoolboy
kisses is the saviour
_handholding
Easy
00:55:679 (1) - Unrankable, not enough recovery time. End spinner at 00:56:784

Call me when fix
Topic Starter
Erisan

Kisses wrote:

Easy
00:55:679 (1) - Unrankable, not enough recovery time. End spinner at 00:56:784
:arrow: FIX
Call me when fix
thank you recheck Kisses :)
_handholding
ReTrying bubble
Mir
OwO

actually i have some concer-

nah jk lol, good luck this time
Topic Starter
Erisan
:cry:
Shirogumi
;)
Garden
top diff: are you sure with 01:11:469 (3,4,5,6,1) - movement here? flow seems a bit weird to play

rest are ok
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